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with dr. fauci on a national stay at home order. i thought that was significant as well. all right. thanks as usually for joining us. to our viewers thanks very much for watching our coverage. right now continues with "erin burnett outfront." >> the cdc now recommending all americans wear face masks to slow the spread rof coronavirus but president trump says he is not going to comply. plus, a massive 350 billion particular rescue plan for small businesses off toen a extremely chaotic start. banks don't know what to do so what's the administration's response as everyday matters so much? and a new york mother of three has just lost her 42-year-old husband to coronavirus. she joins us. what she wants you to know. let's go out front. >> and good evening. i'm erin burnett. the breaking news, president trump says the cdc is now recommendsing all americans wear nonmedical face masks to help
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slow the spread of coronavirus. now, the new guidelines according to the president are voluntary and he told reporters he will not be wearing a face mask. the president also shootsing down guidance from his task force that he consider a nationwide stay at home recommendation. >> should every state in this country have the kind of stay at home orders that we now see in places like washington? >> i leave it up to the governors. the governors know what they're doing. i guess we're close to 90% anyway and states who we're talking about are not in jeopardy, no, i would leave it to the governors. >> the president's decision to leave it to the governors comes as the u.s. reports 1,094 deaths today. that is the most in one day. every day that seems to be the thing we say because that's the truth. it is rising day by day and with every passing hour those numbers are getting worse. and across the country one state after the next reporting a record number of cases or deaths connecticut, illinois, new york,
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the number of deaths in new york has doubled in the past three days to nearly 3,000. caitlyn collins is out front near the white house to beagain our coverage and in his task force briefing tonight the president was combative undermining guidance from the cdc on the face masks saying go ahead and wear them even when they're nonmedical but then saying he himself will not even be wearing any kind of a mask when it comes to just the mask issue alone. >> reporter: yeah, we knew there had been a lot of debate behind the scenes over whether or not to put out these guidance telling americans when they're going out in public they should be covering their face in some manner. obviously the president said nonmedical tonight because it could cause a run on masks and b let people not pay attention to those social distancing guidelines that they felt like they were protecting themselves but then the president came out there and made some notable remarks by really insisting that this was just voluntary guidance saying tfrs nit was not require
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and saying he himself is not going to follow it. so he seemed to undercut the fact the cdc is putting out this guidance. and it also comes of course after the surgeon general himself gave people explicit instructions in early march saying do not buy masks. tonight he said that was the best guidance they had at the time saying americans didn't need to wear those masks. but now they err saying if you can, if you want according to the president be covering your face in some manner so it does seem to undercut that and then the other thing the president said was talk about these stay at home orders really giving cover to those republican governors and other governors who have not ordered those stay at home governors. alabama was one of the ones doing it late tonight. he's leaving it up to the governors. he they are going to be making the decisions not the federal government with recommendations about that. >> there's also i know this confusion over you know, whether the governor should do national stay at home orders.
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obviously you know, 6% of the population is not under them but for those states the president refusing to do -- to you know, instruct them to do so. this is something i know from your reporting i believe dr. fauci had advocating that the president would do a national stay at home order and then dr. fauci i understand just in the last minute was not at the briefing. >> no, dr. fauci wasn't there. there are times when he's not always at these briefings. they tend to rotate the officials out. the cdc director on teenastage the president. he doesn't understand why there are states that haven't issued these stay at home orders. they believe this is the best guidance. of course they've made clear that every state needs to be following the social distancing guidelines they put out ford to flatten the curve so he was saying he doesn't understand. the president did not offer that same amount of skepticism when he was asked about it. he really just said it's up to the states. he's not even going to make recommendations about it so it's really notable. the question of course is how long it takes for those states
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to eventually move into the stay at home orders if they ever do and of course what are the consequences if they don't. >> all right. thank you very much. and i want to go straight now to dr. sanjay gupta. the point here that caitlyn was just talking about, the president said he won't be wearing a mask because i guess it would be odd if he was across from a king or a queen wearing a mask which of course is sending a message that you know, is not the message medical professionals want people to get about wearing masks. so now they're saying the cdc recommend that you wear nonmedical masks which is confusing anyway. so they want to wear ones that work and they're told that nonmedical ones won't work so there's that confusion and the president saying he won't do it. what's the bottom line here? >> well, you know, i think the -- first of all this is an evolving recommendation and i think there's confusion even among the cdc and then how it's interacting with other health organizations, but i think the -- you know, what is really driving this erin now is this
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knowledge that people who don't have any symptoms at all who aren't coughing or sneezing or anything can still, you know, have the virus in their nose and mouth and they can still spread the virus. so the medical masks like the n-95 masks which have that airtight fill are really designed to protect you from getting the virus. with these cloth masks you know, these nonmedical masks it's more about preventing you from spreading the virus. it's not going to work perfectly because it's not a medical grade mask but the idea is that if you do carry the virus in your nose and mouth it's going to make you less likely to put as much of the virus into the environment. it's not a perfect solution. i think they're really operating from this might help probably won't hurt sort of philosophy. i will say this. maybe to your point, erin, the head of the cdc got up and made a few comments at the lecturn. i was watching that pretty closely. i think he was lukewarm on this
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whole thing. i don't know if the cdc felt pressured do to this or not. up to yesterday they've said no. nobody really needs to be wearing a mask in public unless you're sick and in that case you shouldn't be out in public anyway. >> right. >> it's evolving quickly. >> we've also known this could spread asymptommatically for quite some time so i guess people are saying all right, we knew that and but are you now saying that it can spread asymptommatically or general more easily. this whole comment that they've been making the past day just by breathing. has it suddenly become the are not that they call it. in other words how many people can infect, is that number suddenly much higher they think that it's much many more transmissible? >> that's a great point and i asked dr. fauci about this specifically and he said that you know, he basically said no.
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he said it can leave your nose an mouth even in people that are asymptomatic but he seemed to suggest that the distance it would go is even less than the six feet that they're recommending so he thinks that while this can be, you know, something that can drive spread, that the primary driver of spread still was people who. >> reporter: symptomatic so you know, it is a caution but it's not as big a deal sort of and the whole point about this letter that went out that said this can be spread through talking or just even breathing, you're absolutely right. that's what asymptomatic spread is. if you're not coughing or sneezing you're spreading it i. it's through these daily activities of talking and breathing. some of this was not surprising. i think what is surprising is they're now reacting to it. they've known if there are some time. they're now reacting for it and exactly why that got pushed like that i'm not sure. >> so how much does presidential
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leadership on this -- take this as a specific issue because when the president was asked specifically when he made the announcement about the masks here's part of what he said. >> i just don't want to wear one myself. it's a recommendation. they recommend it. i'm feeling good. i won't be doing it personally. it's a recommendation. >> all right. he has the benefit of anyone being around him taking a test so i'll ask you about that in a moment but i'm feeling good, the whole point is that people feeling good could be spreading it. president xi of china, he wore a mask and i understand it's culturally different there. however, how important is it that the president is sort of giving the impression of i'm -- i won't be doing it, i'm feeling good, you know, sort of, you know, it's kind of like a macho thing. i mean, is that something that's going to negatively impact people doing it? >> it might. i mean, you know x obviously there's an example set at the top. i will say two things. one is that it's interesting because you know, he has been tested a couple of times and he
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is negative. he -- you know, he was just i guess yesterday he was tested. the presumption with this is for people who have not been tested but are asymptomatic, they could still be spreading the virus. if you're negative then you know, and this is really for you not to spread the virus, one can argue that you really don't need to daytona. the other thing is that that is for in publix, so if you're able to keep social distancing i wouldn't wear a mask in my own house because i'm able to maintain some social distance and obviously i'm living with people but if i was out in public and i could not maintain social distance that would be the time to do it. so i think you know, people are going to approach this, you know, differently. it is a voluntary recommendation for sure. if we're going to set an example and we need to flatten the curve, decrease the spread of this and this is now a recommendation, then you know, we should be honest about it and diligent about it. >> so now to this point that you mentioned about the president being negative and he did
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mention again that he had another test and he got the results in what, 13 minutes or something like that. and the white house now says tonight that they're going to be gifzing those same rapid test to anybody who is going to be coming if kwloes contact with the president or vice president pence, that their reasoning is that they want to evaluate for presymptomatic or asymptomatic carriers to limit inadvertent transmission. i mean, it seems like this makes sense, but what's your take on that? >> you know, it's really interesting. you may remember sometime ago erin, the president before he made that trip to the cdc it was scheduled and they took it off his schedule and the reason they took it off his schedule at that time was because somebody at the cdc had tested positive and i remember thinking at that point i think we even discussed that night that is this going to become a thing? is this going to become a thing where everyone around him is going to be need to be tested and proven to be negative before interacting with the president and it seemed a little
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farfetched at that time. they'd take a while to get back. you know, i don't know that this is a sustainable sort of strategy, you know, i mean it's not -- and also you do have surfaces that people touch. i noticed him with his hands on the lecturn several times during the comments he just made. other people came up put their hands on the lectern. there's all these different ways that people could potentially spread the virus and you know, it's a difficult thing to say by testing every single person i'm going to guarantee that i will never get the infection. i'm not sure. they can say that and the how sustainable it will be in a week or two or three weeks from now. >> so the president also tonight said that it is up to the governors to decide on stay at home orders and he will not do a national one. 94% of the u.s. population is of course under one because of their states, but there are states that don't have one. that's 6% of the population. should he make this now a national mandate? >> yes. he should. i mean, you know, look, people
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need to say that and they need to be unequivocal about that. i mean, all the modelling that we've talked about and there's some dire projections in terms of the number of people who could die here are based on the fact that the entire country, you know, every state has these stay at home orders. people are, you know, these are grim numbers already but people don't always realize that if -- weir not even there yet. we're not where we should be in order to get to the numbers that we' we're talking about. it could be higher because there's states around the country that are not doing it. it's not for the people in those states. it's for the people in those regions, this is obviously a contagious virus but we have a certain amount of resources in terms of hospital beds, ventilators, we've been saying that for three months now. if a state suddenly turns into a hot spot knowing full well that the country doesn't have enough of these supplies and resources what are they going to do? what is their plan at this point? we know what we're dealing with
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in terms of a finite number of resources so they're gambling at this point. they're gambling and hoping that they don't turn on one of these hot spots and what they're gambling is a contagious lethal virus. >> thank you very much. and next president trump deflecting blame for the lack of medical supplies in the national stock pile. he tells states they are on their own. ohio's govern forresponds next, plus a 42-year-old man, a foth father of three, no known preexisting conditions. he has died after contracting coronavirus and tonight his wife is outfront with a very important message for every american. plus hospitals putting new policies in place as ventilators are running low. the excruciating question, who gets one, and who doesn't. at bayer, we create medicine that treats
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outfront now governor mike dewine of ohio. i appreciate your time and i know you have a lot going on right now. you know, you warned earlier that your state needs ventilators, your state needs other resources as well but it sounds like you cannot count on the federal government for that. are you counting on them at all at this point or are you assuming that because that stock pile is gone and he's saying it's gone that it's over from the feds? >> well, you know, we have states that really need it right now and i'm sure they're getting it, new york for example, louisiana is coming online and so you know, we've always had the attitude we're ohioans and we're going to try to figure this out ourselves. look, we've got help from the white house. last weekend for example the president intervened and we got an approval from the fda about what patel lab was doing, what they've come up with. it's an amazing thing they can sanitize sterilize 80,000 of the n-95 masks every day so that's
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really going to be a big help to us. and that's frankly the kind of help that we need from the white house and this white house is -- >> so you're getting everything you need? >> well, look, everybody is looking. everybody is looking for more masks. everyone is looking for more tests. i mean, if you want to take a big lesson away i guess from this tragedy, once we get done we'll look back and i think everybody will say, we've got to invest more in public health in the united states. we have not historically done that and we need to do that. second, we need to make this stuff ourselves. you floknow, the fact that we h to go to other country to get the ppe for example of our first responders and our doctors and nurses, that's not a good situation so we've got to change that in the long run, but right now as governor of ohio you know, we're focused on sourcing and procuring and finding whatever we can find and we also
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have frankly we've asked the manufacturing base in ohio and they've come forward and they're trying to repurpose and manufacture some of the things that we need. so it's -- you know, it's a race. look, we've told our people, stay home, help us -- help us flatten that curve out, give us more time to get ready. we're building out more hospital beds, doubling the capacity there so we're getting ready and we're in a big race. >> so you've told people to stay home. of course and you've been prased for that for reacting early as obviously you're a little bit earlier on the curve and i know your curve is expected to come in weeks not days at least from the numbers that we've seen. your stay at home order in ohio i understand extends to may 1st but do you have states in this country that do not have stay at home orders at all. the president says he leaves that decision up to those governors all of who happen to be republican governors. is that the right public health decision or should the president just ask them to do it because
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they'll do it if he asks them to? >> well, i think everyone is coming around to that. 90% of the population of the country is already there. the states around ohio you know, has certainly done that. i got off the call with the governor of kentucky and indiana and we're working very, very closely together. you know, we did this early on but we had a -- an incident or not an incident but we had something scheduled in columbus ohio and it forced us to make this decision early. they were going to have 60,000 people come in for four days from 80 different countries. it made no sense and so early on we made that decision and we started down the pathway of closing things and trying to as i say, flatten that curve and buying us time and saving lives. >> so you think those governors will get there. does it frustrate you though that the president hasn't asked them to do so in the sense of people in those places could be
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coming to ohio. this isn't a state by state issue. we don't have militarized borders in this country. >> that's right and we've said anybody coming to ohio today who's not just passing through is actually going to come here, we've asked them, you know, to shelter in place wherever they're going for 14 days. and that's the right attitude. so we're conscious of people coming in from other states and that does concern us. >> are you going to enforce that? try to enforce that? >> we've made that as a recommendation to them. i don't anticipate we're going to be arresting anybody for that. but you know, again, it's a very strong recommendation and we're telling people you know, don't come here. you know. >> before we go, you know i want to ask you. >> protect ohioans. >> one final question here. your stay at home order does not apply to religious institutions and one megachurch in your state is continuing to hold services downplaying the threat of the
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virus. last sunday pastor darlene bishop dris kol was talking about like we've already got rid of this thing they're calling the coronavirus or whatever. i'm praising him speaking of god like it's already done because it's already in him. are you okay with services like that still being held or what are you going to do about that? >> no. our churches, 99.9% of our churches are closed in ohio. i would say when i talk to pastors i'm amazed at what they're doing remotely. when i talk to people they tell me you know, they're online with their congregation or they're doing it by radio, they're doing it some other way, so the vast, vast majority of people in this state get it, the pastors get it. the rabbis, priests, everybody -- everybody gets this. there may be one or two or three out liars, you know, we've told them it's a mistake. i've talked directly, you know,
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into the camera and addressed them and said look, you're putting your congregation at risk and you should not do that. that is not the right thing to do. >> all right. governor dewine, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you sir. >> thank you very much. and next a healthy father of three a popular basketball coach days after contracting coronavirus. his wife is outfront with an important message. and chaos and confusion surrounding the administration's plans to give out these desperately needed loans to small businesses across this nation. [ "one more time" by daft punk ]
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>> out front the tonight in many lives lost to coronavirus. a husband, father of three, lived on long island outside new york city. worked for 20 years at a catholic high school where he was an assistant principal and coached the basketball team. one student saying he was like a second father. he passed away on saturday at the age of 42. and his wife joins us now and mar ra, look, i -- you and i
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were just speaking briefly before this began and not only am i so sorry but of course it is impossible to truly imagine the depth of your loss, the suddenness of it, the unexpectedness of it, but i know that you are on tonight to speak to people at this moment and that you have something you want to tell them. tell us. >> i do. my husband gave 110% to everything he did. when i met him in college he was known as mr. st. joe's because he -- everything he embodied every spirit of that college and then getting a job at the academy right out of college he just became that guy whoever -- everybody loved, everybody was inspired by. every lesson he had his students engage and wanting to learn more. i received a letter from his chairperson and she said she never learned more about economics than in his santa's workshop elves lesson and that touched me because i never got
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to see him as a teacher in front of a classroom but i can imagine because i see him with our own children and i see him with the members in our community. and with our friends and he always has a listening ear, no matter what you're talking about. joe was always listening. always felt like you were the most important person in the room. >> and you are -- you both are just so young. i mean, he was only 42. no preexisting conditions that you know of. i mean, when he became sick, i'm sure that this could have happened never crossed your mind that this could have ended this way. >> not at all. i mean, he started out mild symptoms. low grade fever. and then couple days later he stayed up quarantined right away not thinking. he actually was -- denied the test originally because he wasn't symptomatic enough and
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then when we did get the test those results took longer and we were told if he gets worse to go to the emergency room. and that's what happens on st. patrick's day, the 17th. his fever continued to spike and he started to have labored breathing and he said i have to go. this is -- something's not right so they admitted him. and he had already been on oral antibiotics for what they knew was a pneumonia and it had gotten worse and he was immediately put on oxygen and put -- admitted to the floor. and then they began the protocol that they're use, anti malaria drugs and he had that for five days and then he had a trial drug, the name escapes me right now, and that drug is used in
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rheumatoid arthritis treatment. and it was part of the trial so there is a chance that he didn't get it. i don't know the answer to that yet. but he did become afib rile 24 hours after receiving that infusion whether it be the drug or a placebo, i'm not sure. so everybody kind of got their hopes up with being without a fever, 24 hours, 48 hours. but i saw his breathing. we spent pretty much 24/7 on face time trying to meditate trying to calm him, trying to not let him feel alone. everybody -- the world is getting -- the country is getting used to remote learning and i had -- we had to get used to virtual care giving and virtual marriage and just being there for each other and when i finally -- i had said to him, do you want me to say something for the prayers? do you want me to put it out there and not make it public public but with our own friends
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and family who didn't know yet? and he was depating it and then when i finally did post and i made it public i said to him, before i did it i said, babe, it's time. i said it's time to make this known. besides the prayers i said, people are not listening. people are not taking this serious enough. there are still kids riding their bikes, there are still that don't live together. you want to go for a walk with your family, you want to take a ride there the car with your family, i get it. we're stir crazy too but only be with the people that live in your house. only go to the store if you must, if you must. >> and i just wanted to ask you, you talk about face time. were you able to be with him when he died or. >> i was. i was. i was. yes. >> thank god. >> i was. yes, they -- the doctors kept me very much in the loop. she called and told me that i had called in the morning. he was put on the ventilator and
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sedated. and then he -- he was transferred to the icu and then i called and spoke with that nurse and he was very reassuring and i asked him to play music and i told him what he liked to listen to and then he said he -- he's like he's heavily sedated but i definitely will. and the next morning i waited a little bit. i know everybody's busy taking care of everybody so around 11:00 i called and i got a friendly -- talked to a nurse and she said that the team would be calling later in the afternoon. they're going to call all the icu families but he was fine, sedated, so no change. so i said okay. and i went about taking care of my children and then around 20k the doctor called and i expected to hear the same thing and i had a list of questions because everybody asked about this, ask about that and so i did. and she said that she's a little bit concerned because he's on
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three blood pressure medications and his breathing is just not good. that he's not expelling the carbon from his lungs. and then i said well, i need to speak with him. and she said, okay, i don't think there's a phone, i said just go get his. i'll give you the code, get his and she face timed and i saw him and i begged him not to leave us and i told him that we all needed him and -- and then she said i don't want to cut your time short but we have to take care of him and i said okay, please call me back and she did. she called me back and told me her next idea that was out of the back pocket, you know, they didn't know if-st it was going to work but a last ditch and i said okay. and then i was just busying myself. i was actually doing dishes, just busying myself listening to our wedding song on loop staring out to the backyard and it dawned on me that oh, my gosh, he would need last rights.
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we're catholic. he's going to need last rites and i called back and she said absolutely. we'll have that waiting and i said okay, and then call me back. so she again called me back and her words to me were, we have thrown the kitchen sink at him and i'm afraid he doesn't have any more time. and so i said then i need to be on face time again. find to be with them. said hurry in the room and get him on face time. and so she did. she did. and i thanked him, i thanked him for being the most amazing husband and for making me feel cherished and loved every single day. every single day my husband wrote me beautiful love letters in my lunchbox, not just have a great day but just beautiful letters about what i meant to him and our plans for the weekend maybe if it was friday or just about you know, maybe
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the nice morning -- we always had a beautiful morning. he always took care of me, he got me my coffee and wanted to help me get out of the house and help me in every way. and so i thanked him. i thanked him. and then i prayed and then the doctor took the phone and he said, i'm sorry. but there's no more pulse. and then i played our wedding song for him. and then -- and then that was it. so i was with him when he passed. i don't anybody else to experience this. this morning i woke up to a notification on my phone that 43 and that's our county, 43 people alone overnight died because people are not being careful. people are just being so invincible feeling. they think it can't happen to them and maybe they won't.
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it won't happen to them. but maybe they're carrying it and they don't know it. and i -- for my cousin today heard that my -- my -- their 11-year-old daughter had to yell at her 11-year-old friends for invietsing her to the park. why are you inviting me is this you're suppose tds to be home. parents you have to not care if your kids hate you right now. they're going to hate you no matter what because this whole thing, everybody about it is awful. but you cannot -- you can not be with people that are the in your house as sad and lonely and everything that is, you must, must stay with only the people in your house. >> you know, i want to just so our viewers know i mean, i think your love for him -- i'm sorry. it made me cry actually. it's a buteautiful thing but i also wanted everyone to know about the love that your community had for your husband. i know that the procession
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yesterday because you couldn't have a funeral there were at least a hundred cars, many of them these beautiful support. >> 131 plus the fire trucks. >> and you know, you -- you and your three children have this indescribable loss but he had such a huge impact on his students. you know, we talk about 20 years at that school and being a coach, i know they called him j h lou and a few of them reached out to us today to talk about how much he meant to them and i just wanted to play what three of them said. amanda and madden for you, mara. >> tank you. >> i knew that if i went to that school under his watch i'd be okay. we'll always love them. they're always with us. >> joe had a special way of connecting with folks. he also set this bar high and continuously wanted you to excel. >> i am certain that his presence of compassion and
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kindness and sense of humor and goodness will be with every single student he impacted forever. >> he meant so much to them. how much did his calling, his job, his students mean to him? >> oh, gosh. indescribable. indescribable. the amount of time and effort that he put into everything he did, everything he did. he served, besides teacher, coach athletic director and he was on the board of education for our own school district. he just gave every part of him to every part of his life, his family, his friends. it's just -- that was joe. everybody meant the world to him. he never complains about anything. he just did. it was always a race against the clock. he would come home from one meeting, shove dinner down his face and he'd be off to the next one and it just -- that's just what he did. it was always like, on the weekend let's talk about the
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week coming up. all right, what day are you going to be home with me? because he just -- he's just such a giver. he was such a giver. and in every respect of the word. he just loved to make people happy. he loved to make people feel loved. and i think everybody around him did and something that one of the students i don't remember who it was or where i saw it but it rang -- it just resonated so much with me that she said that she was grieving for the future students of mary lewis that they would not experience jay and they wouldn't know what it is to walk down the hall and get a high five from him. and that just -- just spoke volumes to me. >> you shared a picture that your son posted on instagram of himself and his father there in the water and the caption read, he was my marvel superhero, my jedi master, my costco shopping
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buddy. even though it breaks my heart this he's gone i'll always know he has his hand on my shoulder looking down on me. you also have two daughters. >> i do. >> and i know one very young for your children. how are you handling them and how are they handling this indescribable and incomprehensible loss? >> it's hard to put to words. they're relying on their friends a lot, face time is definitely a blessing. madison especially. she's my social butterfly. she is involved in so many circles and loved by so many and is jack. but maddie has really, she's relied on face time and talking with her camp counselor friends and her school friends and her neighborhood friends and she's just always on talking with somebody. and jack also through text and mistime and he finds a lot of
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solace in the comments that people wrote and just reaching out and just, you know, made him feel proud especially. my little one, she's mad. she's really mad. she's -- her vocabulary and her expressive language skills are higher than the bar and -- but she is acting out. she's definitely -- and that's not her. just not her at all and she's just angry. she's just angry. she told me just before actually two minutes before i began talking with you i was cutting and gluing paper and she said i have nowhere. i'm mad at god. i'm really angry. i said that's okay. you're allowed to be angry at whoever and whatever you want. we're all angry. we're all upset but it really hasn't 100% set in of course because we can't go through the
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typical pomp and circumstance that we're used to. my six-year-olds said daddy can have a wake? we haven't had a wake in so long and she's saying that because we had my grandmother's wake a year and a half ago at 91. you celebrate that. you're laughing with your cousins at the wake, you're telling stories, you're so excited to see people and not for that reason but you're happy to see them and so she said that you know, that's -- that's what daddy should have and i 100% agree. nobody deserves a party more than my husband. nobody deserves a celebration of life more than my husband. so hopefully when this madness is over that's what he'll have and for now we can have a quiet private family burial, just immediate family and at least say good-bye in some respect to make it a little bit more real because right now not seeing anybody, it's sometimes just feels like he's at work. i'm doing the dishes and i'm asking my son to take out the garbage and it just feels like he's working late and then of course i realize he's not.
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>> you are in our thoughts and i know the thoughts of everyone watching. >> thank you. >>. >> i hear that precious little voice behind you. but i do hope that for everyone watching, not only can they realize and celebrate the life of someone who is clearly a beautiful person, who was gone too soon but also to take this as you say, so seriously and understand the lives and the families that are on the line. thank you so very much. >> you're very welcome. thank you for listening to our story. >> and we'll be right back. for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment
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tonight, devastating news across the country on jobs, unemployment rate rising last month, millions of people searching for ways to put food on the table as government says the stimulus checks are weeks away. >> average worker, what is are we going to do?
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by the time we get them, not go be to help. >> reporter: he's down to last $65. >> currently unemployed, no rides. don't know how to feel right now. lost. want to be mad but can't be, nobody to be mad at. >> reporter: calls and cash flow have stopped for williams and millions more who earn in the gig economy, work force that relies on booking gigs or making appointments for income. >> something like this we're unable to work, making us realize how fragile it is. >> reporter: in los angeles actor ty mayberry is used to gig after gig after gig. but now the married father of twins is experiencing a frightening new scene. >> i wake up without any auditions in email, without manager or agent calling, it's a
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shock to the system. >> reporter: and to the u.s. economy. according to 2018 research poll nearly a quarter of the american work force relies on gigs for income, now all but gone. employers who are still busy have stepped up hiring but not nearly enough for the 10 million unemployment claims made last night. >> kind of low on the job. >> reporter: america gonzalez and her son jason used to clean 10 to 15 homes a week in texas. >> seen a very drastic drop. feels like we're in the desert. really, really tough. >> reporter: grateful for the few clients that continue to support them, they've had to speak frankly about what might come next. >> thing we agree on is worst is to come. can't pay stuff, end up without a home or car, it's still going
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to be okay. >> within two weeks the first money will be in people's accounts. >> reporter: best-case scenario is longer than many can afford to wait. >> what about the people like us right now? we're just waiting. >> reporter: cnn, los angeles. on "outfront" now, adviser under president obama. went through the financial crisis and great recession. what is the solution here? saying it takes several weeks to get the checks out. is there any way this can go faster? for so many people living week to week, there's going to be an issue right just for food on the table. >> yeah, i think there is going to be an issue. getting the money out in two to three weeks is about as good as the government has ever done. i'm worried about more of the money goes out through the unemployment insurance which is
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supposed -- gig workers have supposed to qualify for unemployment insurance payments but state unemployment filings are totally overloaded. if you look in new york, you have to literally speak to a person live, can't just do it online. had people calling 200 times in last week, cannot get through. i think it's a big problem to get this money out the door and out in timely way. >> right. every day really does matter. people have gone -- not as if there was a small drop, this is a complete and sudden cessation of their living. also the small businesses, when you talk about restaurants, bars, right? this is the first day they could apply for loans through this stimulus program, right? >> yes. >> my understanding is the process can be best described as chaotic. banks are frustrated, business owners are frustrated.
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what do they do to fix this? it's their livelihood. >> they've got to address this issue. it's a lot of money for small business, more than $350 billion but they set it up to go through banks. only gave them the rules last night how the program is supposed to work. almost every bank has adopted a strategy, if you weren't already a customer of that bank, they're not interested in making the loans yet. and $350 billion is first come/first serve money. people who are best connected, in other words, least at risk, already have lines of credit at their bank and they're going to get the money first. i think that's a problem. >> would certainly seem to be. thank you very much austin. i appreciate your time. talk to you next week. thank you so much as a voice. >> you bet. >> we'll be right back. to the mowers of green acres,
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we continue to cover the pandemic. coverage continues now with anderson and "ac-360". big news is cdc recommends face coverings in public, not masks, should be left for first responders. president made the announcement and undercut it by informing the world he wouldn't be following the cdc recommendation. repeatedly pointed out it's voluntary, added i don't think i'm going to do it and added definitely won't be doing it personally. also won't be telling remaining governors who haven't issued statewide stay-at-home orders to issue them. saying it's up to the governors and claiming that the states in question are quote, not in jeopardy, not a comment based in science or