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i am don lemon. 11:00 p.m. on the east coast, and here is the latest on the coronavirus pandemic. tonight, the number of cases worldwide is nearing 1.1 million. the global death toll, just under 60,000. here, at home, the pandemic is worsening by the hour. johns hopkins university, now reporting more than 277,000 confirmed cases in the united states. and more than 7,000 deaths in this country. more than 1,400 deaths reported just today. tonight, nearly 96% of the u.s. population is living under
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orders to shelter in place. that works out to nearly 315 million americans out of a population of 328 million. but eight states are still resisting imposing stay-at-home orders, despite dr. anthony fauci advising that all states should do so. president trump's refusing, tonight, to issue a national stay-at-home order. saying he will leave it up to the individual governors. and we have this bit of breaking news, late on a friday night. under cover of the coronavirus, the president, settling scores with a perceived enemy from his impeachment. a source on capitol hill telling cnn moments ago that the president has removed intelligence community inspector general michael atkinson. the official who told congress about the anonymous whistle-blower complaint that sparked the house impeachment proceedings against trump. i want to get right to cnn white house correspondent john harwood and cnn's senior justice correspondent evan perez. good evening to both of you. evan, this is a big deal. what do you know?
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>> it is a big deal, don. look. we have been waiting for this exact moment. and it appears that the president took, obviously, the fact that the country is preoccupied with the coronavirus crisis, to finally get rid of michael atkinson, who is the inspector general for the intelligence community. he is the one who sort of kick started all of the controversy over the ukraine -- the president's leaning on the ukrainian president to announce investigation of his political rival, joe bind. if you remember, received the whistle-blower complaint and kicked it over and said he had to notify the lawmakers and congress about it. and, of course, that led to the president's impeachment. we know that the members of congress, the heads of the two intelligence committees in congress were notified tonight, that the president was firing atkinson. and so atkinson was informed, tonight, that he is essentially being put, don, on a 30-day
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administrative leave. so he's, essentially, out of the job. he still, essentially, working for the government for another 30 days. but he is fired. the president has decided that it is time for him to go. >> evan, i want to read part of the president's letter here. and it reads -- it says the inspectors general have a critical role in the -- in the achievement of these goals as -- as is the case with regard to the other positions where i, as president, have the power of appointment, by and with the advice and consent of the senate. it is vital that i have the fullest confidence in the appointees serving as inspectors general. that is no longer the case with regard to this inspector general. so if that is the rationale, it is rather thin. >> right. look. the president and people in the justice department who reviewed
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the whistle-blower complaint did not think that it deserved to be notified to congress. they didn't believe that the inspector general, that the -- the -- obviously, the director of national intelligence -- needed to even tell the intelligence committees about this whistle-blower complaint. instead, the -- the intelligence community, inspector general, he decided that he did. and so that's one of the reasons why, certainly, the president, people around him, were very, very unhappy with mr. atkinson. and believed, essentially, that he had started a controversy that, they believe, should never have gotten there, don. so you can see why atkinson's days, frankly, were numbered from the time this inspector general decided that he needed to tell congress about this whistle-blower complaint. you can see that the president is saying, in his letter to the intelligen intelligence communities tonight, that he has lost confidence in this inspector general. and of course, don, you know,
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the president, he has this power. he can tell the lawmakers that he has the right to -- to get rid of these people because they serve at his discretion. so that is what he has done tonight. >> so, john, let me bring you in here. so -- so this is what the president is doing late on a friday night, in the middle of a deadly pandemic? historic pandemic. >> look, don, he set out on this course before the pandemic flowered into a huge story. he started firing people who had called out his behavior. alexander vindman, the white house is one of the most conspicuous examples, immediately after the impeachment process was over. he doesn't like people who call him to account within his administration any more than he likes reporters asking him difficult questions. and i should note that there is no indication that michael atkinson did anything wrong by reporting this information to congress. republican senators, in the impeachment process, agreed that
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there was a quid pro quo that was imposed by the president on ukraine. later backed off of it, of course. they just said it wasn't worth impeaching him for. so the president is trying to purge the administration of people he thinks are disloyal to him. and this is not unrelated to the laggard response his administration has had on coronavirus. if your priority as head of the executive branch is to have people in jobs, not because they are qualified to do the jobs but, because they are loyal to you, you're not going to get the highest quality of people. noted by the way that the admiral in charge of the navy ship, who called out the plight of his crewmen was removed by the president's navy secretary from his command. and so this is a -- a -- a pattern with the president. and you saw it with -- when jared kushner came into the white house briefing room yesterday. the president's son-in-law is
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taking a lead role in pandemic response. and that simply illustrates the problem that we're talking about. not the best people but the people who the president thinks are loyal to him. >> you got to wonder if i said that under the cover of coronavirus but i'm wondering if it's maybe to sort of change the news from the coronavirus to this. i mean, which came first, john? the chicken or the egg? >> look. he would have done this anyway, as evan said. we were waiting for this to happen. but he is suffering an avalanche of catastrophic news at the moment. to the extent that he's embarrassed by this, yes, he's burying it. but in the -- in the current news environment, you can't bury stuff very effectively. news is 24/7. and whether you do it on friday night or do it monday morning at 9:00, it's going to get pushback from democrats. it's going to get attention from the press. but the president is not concerned about that. he's focused on somebody who has made him look bad.
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put him in a bad position. he is going to strike out. >> thank you, both. i appreciate it. i want to bring in, now, james clapper, former director of national intelligence. he joins us now by phone. director, thank you so much. first, i want to discuss the timing. why is the president doing this late on a friday night? what is -- does the timing tell you anything? or do you agree with john, he's going to do it anyways? >> well, i think john's right. he's going to do it anyway. but, of course, i guess figuring friday night is the best time in any -- typically for a revelation of bad news. but particularly so in the midst of a pandemic crisis. and it looks, to me, like he's got his list of people that he wants to remove or punish, who had some role in -- that led to the impeachment. and, clearly, mr. atkinson, as the icig was kind of the
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catalyst of this with his handling of the whistle-blower complaint, which for my part, i thought was entirely proper. >> yeah. let's be clear about this. he was -- he was doing his job. but what does this mean for the country? especially, at a time of global instability and crisis? >> well, what it means to me, don, is this is a -- a -- a bad message to the intelligence community, if you care about its independence and objectivity and telling through to power. so this is another chilling message that you'd better hue the line here and don't cross it. and i think the implicit message, which is even more serious, is this could certainly affect or may affect the objectivity of the -- of the reporting that the intelligence community is doing. and that, to me, is what is -- is very bothersome about all of this. you take this and -- and -- in the total context of the firing
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of director joe mcguire and the replacement ambassador grenell. and jon ratcliffe. all of which, i think, the bottom-line message here is loyalty is more important than professional competence. >> former director of national intelligence, james clapper. thank you, sir. appreciate your time. >> thanks, don. >> i want to turn now to the news from tonight's coronavirus briefing. the cdc, urging americans to wear makeshift face masks out in public. i want to bring in, now, the resident fact checker daniel dale. daniel, thank you so much for joining. the cdc now recommending americans wear these masks, coverings, face coverings. here's' what trump said about the new guidelines, even though he doesn't plan to wear one. >> here's how you can make your own face covering in a few -- >> from recent studies, we know
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that the transmission from individuals without symptoms is playing a more significant role in the spread of the virus than previously understood. so you don't seem to have symptoms, and it still gets transferred. >> but haven't health officials been warning of asymptomatic spread for months, daniel? >> they have been warning, to an increasing extent, i think to interpret this trump comment generously, there is more evidence today than there was, say, two months ago. but at the end of january, dr. anthony fauci said he was convinced that asymptomatic transmission was occurring. in february, the director of the cdc said it was possible and concerning. and, by mid-march, we had a story on cnn.com by our medical correspondent elizabeth cullen, i have it in front of me. infected people without symptoms might be driving spread of the coronavirus. so this is not breaking news in the last few days. we have known for at least some
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time now. >> the president also claiming tonight that he never gateve a date for when this virus would go away. what's the truth? >> so trump said, over and over, that he thought this virus would vanish from the united states in april. listen to some of the things he said. >> looks like, by april, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. i hope that's true. >> you know, in april, supposedly, it dies with the hotter weather. and that's a beautiful date to look forward to. >> i think it's going to work out fine. i think when we get into april and the warmer weather, that has a very negative effect on that. and the type of a virus. so let's see what happens. but i think it's going to work out fine. >> so he -- he didn't mention a specific date in april but he kept saying april. and it's also misleading, at best, for him to suggest today as he did that his claims in february it would just go away have been proven accurate. well, he didn't mention back in february that thousands of
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americans would die and the economy would be, more or less, shut down before it allegedly went away. >> daniel, the president keeps saying that no one could have predicted something like this would happen. but we are learning his own administration had concerns. >> yeah. so, don, you and i have been talking repeatedly about how there were repeat warnings from the u.s. intelligence community from outside public health experts. but reporting from our team shows that trump's own senior officials were warning about this last year. alex azar, the secretary of health. and then-senior national security advisor -- council official tim morrison. at a conference in april 2019 and they both said a possible pandemic was chief among their worries. and they suggested it was something that keeps them awake at night. morrison said it's something that, you know, might not be preparing for to a sufficient extent but we need to think about. so not only were the warnings coming from outside, they were coming from quite close to the president. >> daniel dale, thank you very much. next on the front lines. inside a new york hospital. more than 6,500 new coronavirus
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screen right now. live pictures of the empire state building. that red light, symbolizing a heartbeat to pay tribute to all those infected with coronavirus. new york city has become ground zero for the outbreak in this country. residents reporting almost constant sirens. in just the last day, more than 6 thou 6,500 new cases reported. along with 300 deaths. just the past day. joining me now, doctor laura and also judy sharon gonzalez. she is an er nurse and president of the new york state nurses association. i am so grateful to have both of you on this evening. and let me just thank you, right off, for what you're doing. and don't tell me that you're
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not hero because you, indeed, are. i'm going to start with you because these numbers are shocking. you are working on the front lipos lines in new york city right now. can you, please, take us inside what is it like at your hospital? >> well, don, first off, thank you so much for having us. and i just want to be really clear that i am here representing the voices and experiences of resident physicians throughout my hospital system. and across new york. working right now is unlike anything i've ever imagined. things are totally chaotic. patients are sicker and dying at higher rates than i've ever seen before. and we are running out of basic supplies. we have been talking a lot about the lack of protective equipment. but, actually, what a lot of people don't know is that we're running out of everything. last shift that i worked, i was told that there are 15 oxygen masks left in the entire hospital where we have over 500 patients with coronavirus. many of whom are dying because they simply can't breathe. we are, also, low on pain
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medicines, which are necessary to keep people comfortable when they're on a breathing machine. and without those pain medicines, they'll sometimes pull out their own breathing tube. so things are pretty drastic right now. >> i just want to get, judy stand by. i just want to look at an e-mail. something that you said that corresponds with some upof our reporting here. you said some of the patients -- here it is. it says an intensive care unit nurse at a large new york hospital spoke with cnn's athena jones about current condition of patients. how the virus is affecting their bodies. and basically, they are saying the patients they are saying there this week appear sicker compared to last week. and you just said the same thing. what is -- what is -- what's going on? i mean, judy, are you seeing the same thing as well? >> yeah. the level of illness has really increased. the number of patients has increased. yesterday, last night alone,
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we -- we admitted 200 additional patients. we have about 1,500 corona-positive patients in our system. we have over -- we have 1,300 people out on furlough. we have about 600 positive covids and many sick workers. many of them, nurses. we have lost some nurses. they have succumb to the virus, and we have quite a few already in the icu. we are terribly at risk because of the intensity of the virus. t it's attacking our own systems, and that's a big reason that we need the ppe. particularly, the hazmat suits that protect us. >> you said you've -- i hate to cut -- cut you off. but just -- i -- i'm going to let you finish. you've lost some nurses, meaning they are sick? or they have passed away? >> they have -- they have passed away. >> boy. >> you have been experiencing
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coronavirus symptoms yourself. how are you feeling? >> oh, i'm okay now. i just want to see if i have antibodies. my -- my test was negative. there is a lot of false negatives. but we're hoping to get the antibodies test to see if we have some kind of resistance. i think that would be helpful. it doesn't necessarily protect us completely. but it seems to, perhaps, give us a little bit of immunity because our colleagues are exhausted. you know, we started off being concerned. the concern turned to worry. the worry turned to fear. and, then, to abject terror. and now, we're just almost numb. many of us are ill. we are still trying to work. but the need for protective equipment is essential. we've done studies. we looked at what happened in wuhan. initially, in wuhan and italy, they did not have protective equipment and they lost many healthcare workers, even young and healthy ones. in the second phase of wuhan, they have the kind of hazmat suits that you've seen.
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those full-body gear. and they had zero transmission and much better outcomes for the patients. the other thing that concerns us is the patients are so ill, and we just don't have enough people to take care of them that we are having to triage who we're able to care for at a given time. and the outcomes are worse when you're in that situation. >> why do you continue to go in and put your own life in danger? just speaking on behalf of nurses throughout the new york area. >> yeah. i -- we -- we go in. nurses do what they do because that's what we have to do. we're like the normandy of this viral invasion. we are on the front lines. we have had casualties. we hope we'll win. >> yeah. >> doctor, you are 28 years old. you are writing your last will and testament. how concerned are you about your health? >> i'm absolutely terrified. we've had people in their 20s die in our hospital this past
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week. i realized, when that happened, that i also might not survive this pandemic. and it's really been a reckoning for me. i wrote out my wishes. i spoke with my family. i've cried a lot this week. but, you know, this pandemic is something that is affecting everyone. and nobody is really safe from coronavirus. i think about what it would be like to be in a prison right now or in a nursing home. i heard that we are still detaining people, and that i.c.e. is stockpiling medical supplies. we're, literally, putting more people into immigration detention right now, which is an enormous risk. because if a virus spreads in a confined space like that, like a jail or public housing, it will spread to the surrounding community. so this has really been a wakeup call for me, personally, and hopefully for all of us, as a nation, that our health as a community, as a country, is only as good as the health of our most vulnerable communities. >> you know, doctor, a lot of people are getting restless under these social-distancing
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guidelines and these stay-at-home orders. what is your message to people who say, you know, i don't know kn anyone with this virus. my community will never be anything like a new york. i don't think we need these stay-at-home guidelines. what do you say to them? >> you know, i felt that way, too, a few weeks ago when i had friends over. and i -- i realize, now, how serious this is. both on a personal level. i have patients who i saw in the office, you know, a week and a half ago. and they were fine. and now, they're dead. and the major financial impact for many of my patients and my community at large. one of my co-workers who is a doctor recently had to paypal a patient rent money so that the patient could stay home and not risk her life by going to work. so my patients are -- they're losing their lives. they're losing their jobs. they're losing their homes. and they need basic supports right now, like eviction, rent support. income protections. those things are just as important as the kinds of
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protections that judy and i are asking for, like masks and gowns. because this is something that we're all in together. and it's so much more than political. it's -- and it's hard to imagine when you're not there yet. but it will come and it will affect all of us. >> well, both of you, you're the reason the people who are -- you are one of the main reasons that i sit here and do this. and that i am so hard on the people in charge because they should be protecting you. you are on the front lines. you are risking your lives. you're trying to save people. and their feet should be held to the fire. and they should be protecting you. you guys should not have to be risking your lives to do this. you should not having to be paying people's rents. we should not be losing nurses. so i thank you so much, from the bottom of my heart, and i'm sure i speak for millions and millions of americans around this country. thank you. thank you. thank you.
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and, please, please, please, take care of yourselves. and if you need anything, you know how to get us. judy, i know you want to say something. go. >> you figured that out. i'm really glad you said that because there is a -- a -- a potential solution here. if the president would truly invoke and implement the defense production act, and commandeer all the factories and all the industries that could make ventilators that could make the protective equipment that we need. this should have been done two months ago. we understand that they sold, these companies sold, millions of dollars of equipment abroad for a big profit. we don't think there should be price gouging or a price war or colorado has to fight with new york for equipment. we think the government should commandeer all of these industries, just like they did in world war ii. and get us the things we need. get our families the things that they need. get our patients the things that they need. and protect the healthcare workers on the front line so that we can save lives, instead of lose our own. >> and, again, very simply, thank you. >> i can't agree more.
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>> u.s. economy hemorrhaging jobs as coronavirus slams the country. according to bureau of labor statistics, the economy lost 701,000 jobs in march. the unemployment rate, shooting up to 4.4%. it is the worst month for american jobs since 2009, in the depths of the great recession. and experts say the worst is still to come. joining me now is cnn business anchor richard quest.
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richard, hello. good evening. today's report was very, very bad. and this is just a sign of things to come. >> absolutely, unfortunately, don. the report that you are looking at deals with, primarily, the first, say, two to three weeks of march. it doesn't take account of all the serious job losses that will have happened at the back end of the month as more shutdowns and lockdowns continued across the united states. every economic report i read today from goldman, from bank of america, from j.p. morgan, they all said the same thing. that next month will be far worse, far worse, because this is when we're going to see -- in other words, the month we're in now. when we get those, at the beginning of may, then we'll really see exactly the depths. so in terms of a national unemployment rate, and bear in mind we started at about 3.5 to 3.7. we're now over 4 or 4.5%.
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and expect that to go up, don, at a very fast rate. perhaps, as high as 13 to 14%. so i'm not trying to frighten and i'm not trying to worry. people are well aware of it because, you know, for the hundreds of millions of americans who are not infected, who have lost their jobs, they know exactly what i'm talking about. and it's the help for those that is now so crucial. >> well, speaking of people who lost their jobs. people filing for first-time unemployment claim. i mean, that system has not gone smoothly at all, richard. >> there is two different things here, don. the unemployment claim. 6.6 million people filed for it over the last week. and, again, that will rise. and that was twice the previous week, which was 3.3 million. there are good benefits or longer benefits, improved benefits. four months of unemployment benefit.
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help for various different aspects of it. it's been widened to include self-employed, independent contractors. but the sheer numbers involved have completely overwhelmed the system. and you can see why. no system was designed for this. and then you have got the fact that the states are dealing with it. the federal government has already complained about that. you can see why it is such a mess. so when you get it, it will be better and for longer but you've got to get it. and then, of course, the checks going out in the next two weeks. now, most americans, don't be frightened by this report that some won't get it till august. this is a small number of people, who do not have their -- their bank details with the tax man, who have not managed to file a return where the tax authorities are going and the irs is going to have to go and search for these people. the majority of people will get their checks in two to three weeks, possibly three or four
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weeks. still a long time. but i think there's been a bit misleading fears that it could go as late as early september or august. >> let's talk about the small business side -- small business side of this. >> yeah. >> $350 billion in that rescue package for them. but today was the first day that people could apply for it. and it -- it's been chaos. >> and i'm not surprised, frankly. this protection program was extended and put in place at a very, very great rate. bear in mind, steve mnuchin only talked about it the other day. it opened that night. so what would you expect? it's exactly what you would expect. thousands. hundreds of thousands. in some cases, the websites at the bank weren't ready. in other cases, there are restrictions on who can get it. are you an existing bank loan? have you got a credit card? a business credit card with that
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bank? so many people found that they weren't eligible even though they met the criteria. let me give you one phrase that i -- i -- you know, i did attempt tonight. the chase one. the chase one says that there are limited funds available. and chase anticipates high volume and there may be -- there may be delays and system failures. processing delays and system failures. don, and it'll sort itself out. it's a very good plan, and there are other plans. can i just tell you, don, before you go -- as well as looking at the pp -- what anybody in a small business should also be looking at the economic injury disaster loan payments. the eidl. have a look at that one, as well, because that gives -- that gives immediate $10,000 grants, not loans. and it could be easier to get. two big plans. a vast amount of money
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available. the bureaucracy is intense but that was inevitable, bearing in mind-let size. >> do you have this online, quest means business anywhere? i hope you have this online somewhere where people can go, richard. if not, can we put it on there? >> i will tweet it at richard quest and certainly the eidl and of course the payment -- the payroll protection plan. they are huge plans. it's going to take times. this is a vast country. >> yeah. good. good. put it out there because i think people need -- obviously, people need to know that. thank you, richard quest. appreciate it. >> conspiracy theories, false information. how right-wing media is trying to deflect from the coronavirus crisis and the risk that poses to americans.
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tonight, there are more than 7,000 deaths from coronavirus in the u.s. and the prediction's that the death toll could climb well past 100,000. president trump, now warning of dark days ahead. but, initially, dismissing the pandemic as a hoax and getting lots of support from right-wing media. here's cnn's chief media correspondent brian stelter. >> if you could see my hospital, this physician says, you would know the horror of covid-19. but most people can't see inside
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the bee hospitals in other hotspots and that's given way to even some denialism that could hurt public health. >> people are saying film your hospital. >> users on social media are showing quiet scenes outside hospitals, and suggesting it's not that bad inside. >> i'm sick and tired of hearing about all this fake news. >> but they are lucky to be on the outside. because, on the inside -- >> this is a war zone. it's a medical war zone. >> weeks of rhetoric from right-wing stars downplaying the dangers. patric patricia now worries if the home's administrator was influenced by the president. >> the commander in chief was saying it's nothing. you know? >> and wonders if he heard broadcasters who soft-pedaled the threat. >> i just can't be mad about it. i just think there was a lot of confusion.
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too much confusion for something so serious. >> talk radio personalities and other people close to the president spread faulty information about the virus. >> the coronavirus is the common cold, folks. >> that was rush limbaugh, back in february. as recently as last week, rush was doubting the government's medical professionals. >> didn't elect a president to defer to a bunch of health experts that we don't know. how do we know they're even health experts? >> he dismisses true expertise. and, this week, he's still focusing on the politics. >> they want you to blame president trump for it. >> the pro-trump media is on defense. looking for any which way to prop up the president. amid new scrutiny of trump's belated response to the pandemic. some are still trying to downplay the severity of the disease. but most are shifting blame. to china. to democrats. and to the news media. >> incessant, neverending, constant complaining. and, frankly, lack of accountability of that guy. sean hannity training his sights on new york governor andrew
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cuomo, while ignoring the trump administration's failures. as the new york time reports, blame the left is a big part of the playbook. and right-wing websites are still promoting anecdotes that suggest things aren't that bad. but the growing number of widows indicates otherwise. >> brian stelter joins me now. brian, thanks for joining us. this is not just pro-trump propaganda. this is, actually, affecting public health. >> and that's what makes this case different than all the other stories we have covered in the past three years. there's always been this propaganda machine designed to promote the president, at all costs. the difference, this time, is that the cost is measured in human lives. >> many on the right are claiming that the government is mislabeling every death as a covid death now. why don't they want to accept reality? >> that is the newest conspiracy theory that i am seeing, don. it's this attempt to say things aren't really that bad.
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the government's trying to lump every death, even something from heart disease or other sorts of illnesses, as a coronavirus death. that's the new claim coming from right-wing conspiracy theorists. they are trying, at all costs, to say the death toll can't possibly be this bad because they are trying to run defense for the president. they're not even making claims the president's making. look. the president's been behind the eight ball the entire time. and, unfortunately, he has these mega phones that will support him no matter what. the question is whether most americans will see through that nonsense and trust the medical professionals, who are on the ground. >> brian stelter, thank you so much. we'll be right back.
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there are a lot of people across the country putting their lives on the line during this crisis. there is the healthcare workers and the first responders battling the virus. and the grocery store clerks, delivery drivers, farm workers, and pharmacists braving the streets to serve us all, every day. and we appreciate that. to thank them, our cnn heroes team put together this tribute. ♪ >> i'm a new yorker. i'm essential that i'm out here. >> it's a little risk coming
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