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for example, grocery stores and pharmacy. the president was quick to note this is voluntary and he will not be among those doing so. i just don't see it for myself when questioned. i had earlier predicted on radio that we would never see him with any kind of a face covering. my hunch, he would view it more as a sign of weakness than prevention. regardless, common sense dictates that where the virus does not respect boundaries, be they countries, states, communities, we need uniformity. piecemeal, patchwork, ad hoc approaches, they don't cover it for face coverings for lockdowns. in a cnn town hall dr. anthony fauci this week told anderson cooper that every american should be under a stay-at-home order. how to facilitate involves issues of 23er8ism which dr. fauci acknowledged before saying i just don't understand why we're not doing that.
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we really should be. the night before also on cnn, house speaker nancy pelosi voiced a similar sentiment saying i don't know why the scientific community isn't more outspoken. the president probably lacks the legal authority to mandate a national stay-at-home policy. that's a subject we're about to discuss. but that doesn't mean he is powerless. he can set an example and provide direction. as of this morning, 42 states, washington, d.c. and puerto rico had itched stay-at-home orders. the resulting patchwork has had consequences. a graphic on the front page of yesterday's print edition of "the new york times" tells the story, agency the corresponding article noted stay-at-home orders have normally halted travel for most americans, people in florida, the southeast, and other places that waited for enact such orders have continued to travel widely, potentially exposing more people as the coronavirus outbreak accelerates according to an analysis of cell phone location data by the "times." what you've seen and red on this
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map of the country is where people didn't stay home. even as the virus was spreading. what makes the report -- what the report makes clear is that where americans have been given clear instruction to stay home, they've largely done so. folks in the west, northeast, the midwest have been compliant. that likely curbed the spread of the virus. but those efforts will be futile if not expanded. in areas where public officials resisted or delayed stay-at-home orders, people didn't change their routine. and that ultimately poses a danger to all of us. the status quo is also simply unfair. the good faith efforts of roughly four-fifths of the country will be wasted until everybody gets on board. the governors in states without stay-at-home orders are jeopardizing the rest of us. we need national standards, even if not legally binding, and we need clarity from the commander in chief. people in public need to wear masks. and everyone needs to hold in place until this passes.
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and the issue, it transcends politics. in fact, where the possibility of a telephone call between the president and his presumed november opponent, former vice president joe biden, where that was reported this week, i think we'd all benefit from a joint unity message from both of them on this matter of national importance and later, then we can argue, point fingers and vote. but now, we need to get on the same page and rid ourselves of the deadly virus. my first guest has been advocating that everybody wear masks in public, store bought or homemade. he explained his logic as follows. at the height of the hiv crisis, authorities did not tell people to put away condoms. as fatalities from car crashes nobody recommended avoiding seat belts. yet in a global respiratory pandemic people who should know better are discouraging americans from using respiratory protection. jeremy howard is a distinguished research scientist at the university of san francisco. he wrote those words for "the
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washington post." mr. howard, the w.h.o. initially said you only need to wear a mask if you're taking care of a person with a suspected covid-19 infection. how did they get tell so strong? >> well, we now know that 50% of people infected have no symptoms. we also know during the first week is when people are most infectious, where they're least likely to have symptoms. what the w.h.o. did here, they did not err on the side of caution. they weren't quite sure of the science, and what they should have said is do do it. 80% of americans wear a face mask, any kind of cover, they can actually stop the virus in its tracks. >> here is the cloth covering i'm using, i don't know if you can see it, when i wear it, am i doing so to protect myself or to protect you? >> primary, you're doing it to
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do your bit in the community to protect others. we know that this disease spreads when we talk, little droplets fly out of our mouth. it makes obvious sense and the science shows any cloth cover stops that. it's been estimated by yale researchers this week that each person wearing a single mask has a value of 4,000 to $6,000 due to the huge impact it has on transmission. >> there's some stunning data that you have provided me represented in graphs. i'll put it on the screen showing south korea side by side with italy. pretty self-explanatory, but provide the background. >> the really interesting background until late february, folks in south korea down get masks and they were continuing their cultural approach only wearing masks where they had symptoms. in late february, the government stepped in and ensured that everybody had access to a mask. you can see what happened,
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before that, they were on track with italy to be as bad as italy. suddenly, everything turned around, and now the number of cases is decreasing without even a lockdown. >> i made reference to what the president had to say yesterday. the sort of juxtaposition of announcing the cdc recommendation and then saying that he himself wouldn't be engaging in that behavior. i want to roll a small piece of video and then ask a question. >> this is voluntary. i don't think i'm going to be doing it. we have lots of ways you can look at it as follows. the cdc is recommending that americans wear a basic cloth or fabric mask that can either purchased online or simply made at home, probably material that you have at home. >> what does your review of the data from around the globe show as to the issue of cultural difference or even vanity? i know you looked at the czech republic. >> right. i was really surprised to find actually there's lots of
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examples of countries that have gone all in on this. israel. it's the law. czech republic, it's the law. austria, it's the law. slovakia, it's the law. in the czech republic, not only is it the law, they're so proud now to wear their masks. if somebody is behind you in the shopping line to do your weekly essential shopping and they're not wearing a mask, in the czech republic, people will look at that person now and say why aren't they doing their bit? we know that covid-19 is like a silent necessity now. as you walk around the streets, you could be killing people without knowing it. masks are the closest thing we have to this imperfect vaccine. science just this week shows that in studies 100% of people that were tested, simple cloth covering stopped the transmission of those critical droplets. >> jeremy howard, thank you so much for being here. i hope people follow your advice. >> thank you. >> i want to know what you think. go to my website at
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smerconish.com and answer this week's survey question. so the cdc is recommending all americans wear a mask in public. the president has said, hey, it's voluntary. i want to know, will you wear one? will you wear a face covering? now, to date, 42 states have acted to contain the spread of the virus by closing nonessential businesses and issuing stay-at-home orders but without a national standard for the orders they vary from state to state and still allow americans to travel between states. many officials and experts have been calling for a national lockdown, including bill gates who wrote these words. the country's leaders need to be clear. shut down anywhere means shutdown anywhere. until the case numbers start to go down, any confusion about this point could only extend the economic pain raise the odds that the virus will return and cause more deaths.
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so, why is the white house not making such a recommendation? turns out there are legal issues with the federal government dictating this kind of large-scale quarantine. joining me now is paulie price, a professor of law at emory university, and author of plagues in the nation. professor, thank you for being with me. distinguish, if you will, what can a state do and what can the federal government do? >> in general, most of the social distancing measures that are being recommended by our federal health shorts are in states' control. so, we've had all 50 states declared states of emergency. so, they have the authority to impose upon their own populations, the social distancing measures including school closings, stay-at-home orders. as you noted, they are not uniform. governors know their populations better and they have to responsibility to those
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populations. but that worries the rest of the nation in at sense it's very difficult to have a uniform policy and it's hard to business agree with bill gates. >> there's been a lot of attention on florida this week and governor ron desantis. let me ask you this hypothetical, could president trump order governor desantis and florida to close their bars, to close their restaurants? or can they only go so far as making a recommendation. and ultimately, does that rest with the status of the governor? >> reporte . >> i think ultimately, the president can only make a recommendation. and we can debate the sort of legalities of it. but the reality is, the response to the crisis is not going to be resolved by courts and lawsuits. and i think we should not underestimate the power of that national leadership. so, governors have stepped up, and they recognize the need to protect their populations. but what i fear in the hard
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weeks ahead, this is a work in progress for government. we do not have a blueprint for this. our federal emergency powers, all of them, for response for disasters envision helping the states. they envision something that is affects only one region at a time. a hurricane, for example, with fema or the stafford act. so, we don't have a blueprint for this. and we are in the process, over the coming weeks, of working out how we can coordinate state orders. but here's my fear. we can engage in the national debate. but the perspective that i worry about is that when a state turns state residents turn against the populations of other states. let me give you an example of that. on a residency basis since you brought up florida. so, i was moved to tears when i saw that navy hospital ship, images of that, being towed past the statue of liberty into
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new york harbor. at the same time, there were mayors in the state of florida who had the ability to turn down bringing in a cruise ship that had had deaths and coronavirus on it. the mayor got to make that decision. the florida governor at one point was musing, well, maybe we could let in florida residents, but not anybody else because we have to protect our resources. and i appreciate that. and the mayor has to protect their own population. but you're from ohio and you're on that ship, we are all americans, and if we start turning state against state because we have to preserve resour resources, that's not going to help anything. >> well, let me just say this, as an attorney, i certainly understand the notions of federalism that guide government on a local, state and national level. i was just trying to advocate, that this vices, i'm not a physician and i don't play one on tv, common sense dictates it
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knows no boundary, unless we're all rowing in the same direction, then we're preventing getting ahead of the curve on this. you get the final word. >> i couldn't agree more, we have to row in the same direction. i can tell you from my own experience in atlanta, before the governor stepped in on a statewood, i had conflicting orders based on county and municipality and city. so, a lot of our local governments have stepped up to fill the gap for the need for social distancing in those states where governors had not done so. >> professor polly price, thank you for your expertise. >> thank you. >> what are your thoughts? tweet me @smerconish or go to my facebook page. from facebook, i guess i don't agree that places like alaska, wyoming, montana, et cetera, need to do the same thing as new york and california. it makes no sense. wait a minute, monica, that would be akin to all of us
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saying a month ago, i don't think that the united states needs to be mindful of what's going in china, or of what'sgo going on in italy. you know, to quote tom friedman in this case, the. world is flat. especially to a virus. one more, catherine, also from facebook. you're correct! trump does see wearing a mask as a weakness. if he did wear a mask that would show that he's a team player which is he not. nick, i don't expect the man to wear a mask in the oval office, but should he at public events? i think that would speak volumes. i don't he's golfing but to the extent that he's interacting with other folks to put on a face covering i think would be a sign of strength, that's my argument. up ahead, provocative question, should the government establish a registry about who has or has had the virus.
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vaccines are recorded in immunizations registries here in the u.s. i'll talk from senator and doctor bill cassie from the great state of louisiana who says we should have a similar registration for coronavirus immunity. and yes, in the documentary, joe exotic had to be transferred because the prison he's in has many cases of covid-19. raises the question how are prison sentences addressing the mounting threat from the virus? >> some states are letting people out of prison, some people are getting outside of very serious criminals in some states. i don't like it. we don't like it. and we're looking in to see if i have the right to stop it in some cases. your worst symptoms which most pills don't. get all-in-one allergy relief for 24 hours, with flonase.
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does the government need to establish a coronavirus immunity registry? my next guest thinks so. he's a gastroenterologist from louisiana. he also has experience documenting immunity. he created a private public partnership to vaccinate 3600 children against hepatitis b. he happens to be a member of the united states senate. this is senator and doctor bill cassidy. senator, thank you for being here. before we focus on the subject that brought you here, what can you tell us about new orleans? >> yeah, clearly, we have an increasing rate of deaths. but i am told that emergency room admissions are beginning to decrease. hopefully, that is the kind of breaking of the wave. and although we know that icus
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will continue to be full for a while, if we have decreased admissions hopefully that means decreased transmissions. >> on the subject of a registry, you co-authored a piece for "the wall street journal" that caught my eye. i'll put a portion on the screen and read it to you. a vaccine works by mimicking the immune response of a naturally occurring infection. the herd immune develops which 40 to 70% of populations become immune. the herd of people who are immune blocks the virus from taking hold and infects other, a person's immune to the novel coronavirus could last 12 months. what are you proposing? >> i propose we set up an immunity register, similar to what we have for vaccinations. when a child is immunized as a
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1-week-old for hepatitis b, measles, et cetera, it's put in the registry. when they're vaccinated at 11, that's put into the registry. when they're vaccinated at 17 going to college put in the registry. ten years later going to nursing school or the military, et cetera, you can pull that from that online registry, have it documented and you do not need to revaccinate. it all is compliant with privacy -- with hipaa, with privacy concerns. and it provides a legacy documentation, if we think about the coronavirus, we know, we strongly suspect that once somebody has been infected they're now immune. that immunity will allow them to return to work. if they're a nurse to go in without ppe to see a routine patient without a coronavirus infection. somebody working in a store would not have to fear being infected or infecting others if
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we knew she was immune. and so, you not only know this on an individual level, but as an excerpt you mentioned, you can also note on a community level, when you have a certain level of immunity that allows a freer society. we need this information. it would allow people to return to work to be comfortable that they won't get infected if they go to the grocery store, et cetera. >> does the presence of antibodies necessarily mean you won't get it again? >> it doesn't. but the best evidence seems to be pointing in that direction. and with fauci and birx in their public briefings speak of herd immunity, implicitly, they are saying that they think the antibodies of previous exposure is helpful. there was just an article in the lancet, the british medical journal quoting somebody who has worked with sars. sars is a coronavirus, just a different coronavirus. he speaks about the immunity to
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sars lasting for quite some time. so there's gathering of evidence as probably the case, so in the meantime, we need to stand up to the registry so that if it is true we document it and people can return to commerce and education. >> might someone, again, a question for the lay person, might someone who has gotten over it nevertheless continue to spew viral particles? >> there's a little bit of evidence from china 5% of patients or so who have cleared the infection, or stopped having symptoms, continue to shed virus. it is unclear whether that is true. or whether that was just a faulty pcr test. but no one elnetheless, we say people are immune, even if a person is spewing virus it would mean 95% of people are immune. i will say there's uncertainty here. there's a tradeoff between
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absolute uncertainty on the medical aspect and opening up education and the economy for society to continue to flourish. the final question, and i know you made reference to hipaa, so you've addressed this, but i want to make it crystal clear. this would not be a system whereby one can look up their neighbor, true? >> absolutely not. we already know from immunization registries that we can preserve privacy. and it will be akin, if you will, to hospitals currently requiring all employees to have a flu vaccine. or if you work in certain areas, you must be immune to the coronavirus. we have a set of laws established in this to protect privacy but as to protect individuals. >> senator cassidy, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. >> let's see what you're saying on the smerconish and twitter and facebook pages. what do we have, catherine. registry should also track if they get it again if immune is
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still in question. i think, charlene, i did as best i could as a lay person to ask exactly that question of the senator. he acknowledged that some of the science is still outstanding. he was offering the best of what we know. conceptually, i certainly get it. i mean, the concept is those among us who are safe for lack of a better word could then provide vital sovervice on the front line of this, maybe in a health care center, a hole panop panoply. up ahead, coronavirus can spread in prisons. i'm going to talk to an epidemiologist to explain how the threat affects more than just the people in orange jumpsuits which brings us to america's favorite quarantine television show "tiger king." an update on joe exotic's status in a prison with confirmed cases of covid.
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if you are like me, you've been spending hours watching "tiger king" during coronavirus. a netflix docuseries that has dominated social headlines with memes and jokes. for many, it's help ease coronavirus boredom. the new hampshire reporting that the tiger king himself joe maldonado-passage has been xue in isolation due to coronavirus in his prison. now the records show he's been transferred to a prison medical center in texas.
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it's not easy to create sympathy for those behind bars but what happens in a prison sentence in the pandemic will not likely remain in jails. reporting on the impact of the coronavirus to america's inmate population, note that roughly with 200,000 people flowing in and out of jails in a week, the risks are not only for those detained but also for jail workers and surrounding communities. prisons are cruise ships on steroids. here with me is a doctor who is an infectious disease ep dee epidemiologist who studied spreads of virus in brazil. what did you learn in brazil that may now have applicability to what we're seeing in the united states. >> good morning. well, i think the main lesson that we sort of learned from
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brazil and elsewhere, in fact, is that prisons and jails are greatly places to sort of -- to acquire infection. and prisons themselves can really incubate infections so that the large number of individuals can be infected. but first, the populations themselves are not completely isolated from the jugeneral population or community. there are many bridge populations with prisoners themselves coming in and out. as well as visitors as well as the folks who work. therefore, prison populations can, in fact, pose a risk to the general population via a spillover affect of infections. that's what we learned in tuberculosis with the case of covid-19. >> i know that many use prison and jail interchangeably. you are not. but jail, by nature is a much
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more transient population. i reference the marshal project of folks in and out of jails on a regular basis. >> right. absolutely. and jails are certainly much more dynamic in terms of, you know, bidirectional flow of individuals. so, therefore, it's particularly troublesome if we should see outbreaks, sort of occurring within jails, where sort of the incarcerated populations may be moving in and out. >> i saw that rapper meek mill just donated 100,000 masks to the population, including rikers island. what do we know how well staffed they are and the effort to contain the virus? >> well, as far as i know, i think they are -- you know, at this point, it's all hands on deck. however, there are, you know, the prison population in and of
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itself has a fairly sizable, vulnerable population, within that have a lot of chronic conditions. other types of infections. and certainly, the type of conditions that we've been hearing about until the press and in the medical literature about about what may dictate worst outcomes. so, it is in fact really important for prison populations like, or jail populations to really take care of these vulnerable populations. and as far as i understand that there is some effort, but also that there is some tiparticular groups who are vulnerable within rikers who have been -- i think there was a lawsuit that was recently put out, really, asking for protection, really. >> and dr. mathema, finally, to those who say, to hell with them, they're behind bars and they deserve to be there. among the messages i'm trying to
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deliver is what happens in prison doesn't necessarily stay in prison, or jail, in this context? >> absolutely. i think there's two points here. one is that as i think as a society we need to ensure that the incarcerated population are safe. that is something that we should ensure. and likewise, we should also ensure that the -- what happens in a prison or a jail for that matter does not pose an undue risk to the community. in this case, we know we have ample examples from many infectious diseases. tuberculosis properly is one of the best one, of incarcerated populations really sort of bringing disease into the community. or having, you know, staff members or family members bringing disease into the community and that's been seen, certainly, in the united states, southwest in many countries.
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>> dr. barun mathema, thank you so much for your time. checking in your social media reaction via facebook and twitter, what do we have? smerconish, if someone is in jail, isn't that the ideal place for compliance with the 14-day isolation? well, it would be, greg, unless you need people to guard them and feed them and maintain the facility. and that's why, oh, the notion, they're there, screw them, we don't have to worry about it, no, no, no. what happens in jail, it's not like vegas, as they used to say when oscar goodwin was in charge, what happens there is not going to stay there. i want to remind you to answer the survey question @smerconish. cdc is recommending all americans wear a mask in public. the president saying, hey, this is voluntary. i want to know, will you wear one? still to come, small business losses unimaginable on
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some small businesses are hoping that their insurance policies will help offset losses from coronavirus. thomas keller, the chef behind restaurants including frank's laundry and per se leading the charge. he wants to establish legal precedent so that businesses facing mandated coronavirus closures are covered if they already have an optional insurance rider called business interruption insurance. coronavirus certainly an interruption, but legally do they have a claim? the american property casualty insurance association says it believes that most insurance
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policies including those with business interruption coverage do not cover pandemics. they say that retroactively rewriting existing insurance policies could topple the insurance industry. quote, if posemakers forced insurers to pay for losses that are not covered under existing insurance policies, the stability of the sector could be impacted and affect the ability of consumes to address everyday risks. potential losses could total 220 to $383 billion per month. and that could eat up the surplus u.s. insured insurers h payouts. but the attorney for kelly conducts that they're wrongfully denied and quote/unquote crippled. here with me now, is it true typically a pandemic would not
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be covered under business interruption insurance? >> no. in fact, i've look at poses, i've looked at many poses and i've rarely seen the word pandemic. i've found it interesting that the industry is suggests that most industries don't cover it. they're denying all of the poses, they're denying everything associated with this pandemic and it's completely wrong. they're completely misrepresenting the policies that they have. >> is this a chicken and egg scenario where it matters what someone thinks. i'll take the case of a restaurant. the restaurant was closed because the government imposed the shutdown and then it was a virus? and then it's a function of well, which of the two of them was really the cause? >> well, they inflate the issues here because what's happening for most restaurants, for example, they're being shut down because the government shut them down. and there's coverage for that,
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civil authority coverage. when a government shuts you down, there's coverage for that. now, the insurance industry is denying it. they're misrepresenting the poses. they're suggesting that all policies have virus exclusions and pandemic exclusions. in the case of thomas keller he actually has a virus inclusion in his policy and they're denying him. and what they're doing is they're denying him saying well, the coronavirus doesn't cause a dangerous condition to surfaces or property which is completely a misrepresentation of the poses themselves. i mean, completely a misrepresentation of the facts of the coronavirus. and they're doing this in every mass disaster. usually, a disaster is associated with one or two states. maybe a hurricane or something. this, of course, a disaster with the entire economy with the united states. but the insurance industry is sitting on $822 billion in
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reserves. okay. those reserves are lifeboats. they're lifeboats for the businesses that have paid for them, for the employees that they're protecting. and i mean, the ship is sinking here. i mean, the ship is sinking. and they're not giving the lifeboats. >> so, let me give you the other side, courtesy of the "wall street journal" editorial page. but this up on the screen and i'll read it. small businesses need relief since they've essentially been forced by the government to shut down. but interruption coverage is attended to indemnify businesses for losses due to property damage, not losses in customers, leaning on insurers to pay businesses for coronavirus would only make sense if the federal government or states back-stopped insurers effectively administering bailouts through the insurance industry. you get the final word. but respond to that. >> yeah. i mean, look, if the insurance industry thinks that it doesn't have enough money -- i mean, they have a lot. they have a lot in reserves, but if they think they don't have
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enough, they should do what maybe what the airlines are doing, look, we're an essential part of the economy, we need help. but that's not what they're doing. they're misrepresenting the policies. they're misrepresenting the dangers of the coronavirus. they're misrepresenting why the governments are shutting things down. they're shutting things down because of a dangerous property condition in the area. so, the insurance companies, they need to be honest, if they need help. and they are an essential part. i mean, take a breaker switch for the whole economy. if the restaurant industry, for example, goes down. the restaurant industry employs 15.6 million people. i mean, it's a trillion dollars for the economy. i mean, right now, they're all shut down. and many of them have purchased interruption coverage. so the insurance company, if they don't do the right thing here, i mean, this could be be a cataclysmic problem for all of the economy. >> i wanted to you have on today because i wanted this to be on
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everybody's radar screen because it is an industry-wide issue that requires resolution. and i think people need to be focused on what the ramifications. however they may see this, government, virus, chicken/egg. i think it's important that the national conversation be held. thank you so much. >> thank you. still to come, your best and worst tweets and facebook comments. and we'll give you the final result of the survey question. i had no idea how this one is going to turn out. i like to sometimes make predictions. i have no idea what you're about to say. the cdc is recommending all americans wear a mask in public. the president says hey, it's voluntary. he also says he's not going to wear one. i want to know, are you going to wear one. go to smerconish.com right now and cast a ballot. usual. that's why working together is more important than ever. at&t is committed to keeping you connected. so you can keep your patients cared for. your customers served. your students inspired.
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time to see how you responded to this week's survey question at smerconish.com. cdc recommending all americans wear a mask in public, the president says it's voluntary. my question, will you wear one? here are the results. 92%. wow, i am floored by that. i had no idea. no expectation going in. if you said to me it would be 80% no, i wouldn't have had a different reaction. but nearly 21,000 people, that's a good thing. that's a really good result, isn't it? as i advocated at the outset of the program what we need is a national standard, even there's not legal authority to impose
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one. just everybody do the right thing. you want people to stop dieing and contracting the virus, then we all row in the same direction and we get beyond this. what else came in? how about that, 92 to 8. no slight towards you, i'm curious if you regret your public address a few weeks ago, refusing to alter your travel schedule and daily habits? at the time i came on saying am i f'ing nuts? i don't think i could say with that on cnn, but i said it on sirius xm because i had a full schedule going into friday the 13th of march, and everything changed and i changed with it. i was openly expressing to you trying to deal with the fire hose of information that we were getting that i hadn't anticipated. regrets, no. next, what do we have? why are you joining the wakkos
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to overlook u.s. constitution and law to make potus look bad? your cnn pals -- blah, blah. time travel i'm not here to cheap shot the president, it's not the way i roll. if you listen to my commentary at the outset of the program, i think you'll final it was fair to the man. i want to get beyond this. i don't want to get caught up in the conversation right now of who shot john like the last social media post. we can have that dialogue later, let's get past it first and then we can finger point, accuse and then go vote. i want to get beyond this. stay safe. i'll see you back here next week. when it comes to autism, finding the right words can be tough. finding understanding doesn't have to be. together, we can create a kinder, more inclusive world
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good morning, so grateful to have you with us here on saturday, april 4th, i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. you are in the cnn "newsroom." a few hours from now, the white house coronavirus task force is set to hold the daily briefing, the update yesterday brought some important new guidelines. the cdc is advising americans to wear face masks when they go outside. president trump made the announcement but then he would
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