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♪ the surge is here. the numbers ominous. >> this will be probably the toughest week. there will be a lot of death, unfortunately. team trump says supplies are coming. those on the front line ask
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when. >> this is a war zone. it's a medical war zone. >> when i go to work, i feel like a sheep going to slaughter. we feel we may not survive this pandemic. and the mounting economic shock. millions of jobs gone. >> the fear is not being able to pay your rent. ♪ welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your sunday. the coronavirus case count and death toll continues it's depressing climb globally and here in the united states. 1.2 million cases in the globe. more than 65,000 deaths. in the united states it's more than 312 confirmed cases. more than 8,500 deaths so far. isolation is everywhere you look. the pope's sunday mass, look at that, an aerial view also of a deserted paris. in the uk, queen elizabeth delivers a rare televised address later today.
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spain and italy have the most cases in europe, but some see evidence the rate of infection is beginning to slow. here in the states, new york, detroit and new orleans should hit their peak in the next six or seven days and there are a half dozen or other worry spots more in a possible second wave behind them. >> this will be probably the toughest week between this week and next week. and there will be a lot of death, unfortunately. >> this is the moment to do everything that you can on the presidential guidelines. >> those communities where they're still going up, we've got to make sure we don't have multiple waves of peaks. that's going to be the answer to the question of when we can start pulling back. because if you keep having multiple peaks and different waves, that's going to make it difficult. >> most americans are now subject to some form of state at home order. the orange states waited until april. the eight red strats you see
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there, do not have restrictions and the president said he had no issue with those republic governors. on a call with major sports league commissioners before the white house briefing, the president was described as far more optimistic than his public health experts when asked about when baseball, basketball, hockey, and other sports might be able to resume play. that tension then played out in stunning public fashion. the experts kept saying, this is no time to let up when it comes to social distancing and workplace shutdowns and the president kept saying, it will soon all be over. >> every place, everybody should be doing some degree of this physical separation. if we do that, again, i have confidence that what we will see is the turning around of the curve. >> mitigation does work. but, again, we're not going to destroy our country. we have to get back. we don't want to be doing this for months and months and months. we're going to open our country again. the cure cannot be worse than
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the problem itself. >> with us this sunday to share their expertise, the director of harvard's global health institute and an emergency room facility affiliated with brown university. thank you for being back with us. you hear dr. birx, dr. fauci, you see the trajectory which is sad and depressing about the next week and the week after that. and then you hear the president repeatedly saying but, but, but, what did you take away from that? >> good morning, john, and thanks for having me back on. we are still in the exponential phase, we're still rising quickly and we've tripled our cases since i was here last week. we're nowhere near ready to start thinking about pulling back. and i think the next couple of weeks are going to be tough. i think it's worth noting that some places are far from their peak. new york may be peaking in the next week or so. bay area, washington state have started turning the curve. there are a lot of places that have a long way to go before we
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can start thinking about opening up. one more quick comment, i just don't see us having baseball games and football games, not this year. i think that's no -- even under the most idealistic scenarios, that's going to be hard to pull off. >> i want you to listen to dr. birx here. this is on thursday and as the white house said we could have a death count of 100,000, 200,000, it all depends on people listening. dr. birx saying, why aren't you listening? >> i can tell by the curve and as it is today that not every american is following it. and so this is really a call to action. we see spain, we see italy, we see france, we see germany, when we see others beginning to bend their curves, we can bend ours. but it means everybody has to take that same responsibility as americans. >> she says everybody has to take that responsibility. the president says he will not
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push the eight republican governors, he says that's up to them. i want to show you a couple of states. this is tennessee and kentucky. kentucky locked down in march, tennessee waited. you see the cases go way, way up. compared to kentucky its neighbor. georgia and ohio, georgia going way up. it locked down later. ohio still going up. but at a slower rate. is there any doubt each state is different. there are unique circumstances. we need to be careful. is there any doubt that the states that acted quickly and first are having quote, unquote better luck? i know this is a tough one. having a better situation than the others? >> so each state certainly is different and there are factors like the density of the urban areas, people's ability to social distance. but, no, there is no doubt when you put social distancing in place, it slows down the epidemic. here in rhode island, the
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governor put us on social isolation weeks ago. although we are seeing the icu beds fill up quickly, we are seeing it at a slower rate than in neighboring areas that were slower to put these restrictions in place. putting social distancing rules in place saves lives, period. >> period, you say. and i want to show you the projection. it looks like we're going to hit the peak somewhere around april 16th. we know that we have a very tough week ahead in the big hot spots right now, new york and new orleans. you hear from other governors and the mayor of the district of columbia, she says she thinks the peak will come in the early summer. describe how this plays out and is it wave after wave and wave and possibly suppressing other waves. >> i don't think there's going to be a single peak for the country. again, some states and cities are going to peak in the next week or. two but i think we are going to
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have places that are going to be peaking into late april throughout may. i'm hoping that the summer really does quiet down for the country and we can open up some and get our lives back, at least to some degree over the summer. one important point is whatever happens over the summer, this virus is going to be back with us in the fall. we have to prepare for the fall as well as we think about the summer and getting through this wave. >> one of the big changes this week was after saying for a long time, you don't need to wear a mask, you should only wear a mask if you think you have an infection. the cdc saying americans if they want to should wear a mask if they're going to go out to the supermarket where you might be around other people. here's the president's take. >> the cdc is advising the use of nonmedical cloth face covering as an additional voluntary public health measure. it's going to be really a
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voluntary thing. you can do it. i'm choosing not to do it. but some people may want to do it and that's okay. it's only a recommendation. it's voluntary. >> doctor, is there any evidence it helps or is this more psychological than medical and what do you make of the president saying it's a recommendation but i'm not going to do it? >> so one of the biggest things in public health emergencies is having consistent messaging to the public and so what i would urge president trump is to be consistent. if the cdc is recommending something, he should back it up. otherwise the american public is going to get confused. in terms of wearing masks in public, if the american public wears masks, they should use home made masks or nonmedical quality masks. there's still a dire shortage of masks for front line health care workers and other first responders. we are putting our lives literally at risk by taking care
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of patient without adequate ppe. if the american public starts buying it, it's going to put more frontline health care workers at risk. don't use the medical quality mask. use homemade cloth masks. in terms of evidence, we know that covid-19 is spread through droplets and those droplets can spread not just the 6-foot social distancing distance that we're recommended to take, but much further. in theory, by wearing a mask, you stop yourself from sneezing and spreading that to others. you may also remind yourself to not touch your face which is a big source of infection. if you've touched something and picked up droplets, you can get infected. it may have some benefit. where have is the risk versus benefit curve. if americans can use masks without taking masks away from those of us in health care, that would be an ideal scenario. but we need president trump to back up his scientific experts. >> appreciate your insight this
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this is a war zone. it's a medical war zone. we need prayer, we need support. we need gowns. we need gloves. we need masks. we need more vents. we need more medical space. >> not enough coronavirus tests. not enough masks and protective gear. not enough ventilators, not enough federal help. it's a constant refrain from the nation's governors. >> don't believe anything on tv where they say they have plenty of protective gear. i was just on the phone with the governors, they're desperate. >> no one in the country has enough gear. >> the federal government can
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and should do more to direct industrying to help produce these supplies. this pandemic is a war and we need the armor to fight it. >> there's no federal plan for this so every state is on their own. it's the wild west out here. >> president trump says governors are exaggerating their needs and that his team is on top of it. >> i think a lot of people are going to have enough ventilators and masks and appreciate what we did and all of the things we've been doing with them, working with them. >> but if the states do run short, president trump says, blame president obama. >> previous administrations gave us very little ammunition for the military and very little -- the previous administration -- the shelves were empty. >> craig, appreciate you being
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here today. you have the unique perspective, you were the guy in washington people got mad at. you were trying to deal with hurricanes and other disasters. it's not the most important point but let me start where the president ended. he said you left the shelves empty, true or false? >> ask congress. they approved the budgets. and, again, we were going through shut down. we had not recovered, yeah, it was having an impact at the time. shutting down government and not funding agencies was going to have an impact on those type of prices. >> he had time to fill the shelves, did he not? >> well, we didn't get it passed when sandy hit by saying the past administration wasn't ready. it's always about -- it's on your watch, you're accountable, just like the captain on a ship. when you're the president, you're accountable. >> help me understand this. i brought you in from almost a
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csi perspective. everybody is mad at everybody. the president says they're exaggerating their needs. the governors say they've been left to themselves. governor cuomo says it's like ebay. this is virginia's emergency response request. they requested 3.4 million gl f gloves. if you move it over to neighboring maryland, again, respirators, 422, they say they got 110. nasal swabs seems to be the problem there. how much of this is the governor's responsibility and how much is it the federal responsibility? >> the governors are primarily going to be charged with the distribution and coordination within the states. when we get to this level, it was always assumed that the federal government would be the chief procurement for this. that's why we had the defense
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production act. again, this is -- the question is, are these excessive requests and i'm afraid they're not. what i've learned in disasters, what you would expect the c consumption rate to be is well off. it's all hands on deck, every possibility to produce products and get it out the door with the states focused on getting it to their cities and hospitals that need it. >> and one of the big questions has been this national stockpile. and the president brought his son-in-law into the briefing and said he asked them to look into this. i want you to listen on their take an the national stockpile and what it's for. >> the notion of the federal stockpile, it's supposed to be our stockpile. not state stockpiles that they use. >> we have a federal stockpile and they have state stockpiles. many of the states were unprepared for this. so we had to go into the federal stockpile. when not an ordering clerk. they have to have for themselves. it's a federal stockpile.
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we can use that for states or we can use it for ourselves. >> is that the true meaning of the federal stockpile? >> the stockpiles came out of bio terrorism and chemical attacks. after 9/11, states did get a lot of funding to build up capacity and some states were able to increase those capabilities. but then the great recession hit, states cut budgets, congress cut funding for homeland security and many of these programs lost capabilities. >> and you have argued for a 9/11-type commission to look at this after the fact. what are the two or three things that you see as the obvious needs too look at right away, saying we didn't get this right, let's figure out why? >> right now we need record retention of who said what, who did what.
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we need to look at what decisions made, what worked, what didn't work, and what the commission should focus is not a scapegoat, but what we need to do differently next time to prepare. in dadisasters, we're not goingo have all the answers but it's about problem-solving and taking the right course of action. and a commission could come back with those fixes. this is going to be funding and policy issues. it's not about who didn't do something or who is to blame. it's what do we need to do better before the next pandemic, even the next wave of this covid-19. >> we'll see if that plays out, as you mentioned, we'll see if that changes. we appreciate your insight and appreciation this sunday. we'll keep in touch as this plays out. >> thanks, john. >> thank you, sir. up next, count the record, 127-month economic expansion at another coronavirus victim. 10 million jobs gone in a flash.
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not sure of when this will end. just not sure. if there's an end, then at least you have an end to a beginning. but there's no end. we don't know where are we right now? >> that's stressful. >> yeah, it is. it's a short notice. we are not expecting all of this in terms of the layoff, everything that's happening, is happening so fast, so quickly. >> that's a newly laid off
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baggage handler. one of ten million americans that lost their jobs in the past few weeks. this chart is stunning, 3.3 million jobless claims shattered the old record by five times. this past week, it was 6.6 million more. nearly two times the peak of the 2009 financial collapse. mr. beaver is spot on, there's no end. we don't know. >> it's going to get worse in the weeks ahead. there's no question about it. the effects of the pandemic and the mitigation that is required to end it are taking a huge toll. we are in a contraction point. >> washington is planning another round of stimulus spending because lawmakers know the unprecedented $2 trillion signed into law won't be enough to keep the american economy on life support. still the president insists the switch can eventually be flipped back the way things were just a
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month ago. many economists and ceos not so sure. >> and then you see 6 million people unemployed. unemployment numbers get released and you see 6 million people. and it's an artificial closing. it's not like we have a massive recession or worse. it's artificial because we turned it off. >> kristen romans joins us now. the president says it's artificial. you and mark were sharing numbers as the week came to a close. the government says the unemployment rate went up some. you think already, 10% of americans are out of a job? >> i think there's no question. when you look at those 10 million people who lost their jobs over the past couple of weeks, it would have been much higher if the states could have processed all of the jobless claims. the states aren't built to handle this kind of volume. these numbers are staggering. there's no playbook for this.
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march was this great unraveling of the american economy and april is going to be far, far worse. i think there's no question the unemployment rate is as high as it was in the great recession and will head much higher. >> mark, you put in your analysis, the industries most at risk, manufacturing, retail trade, business services and professional, construction, nearly 6 million jobs. your count is that the government needs to do even more, just pump $2 trillion into the american economy, even a little bit more money before that. speaker pelosi saying cares two must go farther in assisting small businesses, giving families additional direct payments, provide resources to state and local governments, hospitals, health workers, we are in unprecedented times. how much more does the government need to pump into the economy both from a business perspective and from an individual worker perspective?
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>> well, i think they're about halfway done. they've pumped in $2.5 trillion already. that's a little over 10% of the nation's gdp. by the way, for context, john, back in the financial crisis, the stimulus then was 5% of gdp. it's double that. i think they're only half the way done. they need to provide more cash and credit to middle, lower income households and to small businesses. there are 8 million business establishments in the country. 6 million of them have fewer than 500 employees and 4 or 5 million have less than 20 employees. those are the businesses that really don't have any cash cushion and they need help right away. now, in this current stimulus package, the c.a.r.e.s. act one, there's some help, but it's not enough and they need to figure out a better way to get that cash and credit to those businesses. unless they do, then those
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unemployed workers won't have businesses to go back to when we come back to life here. >> the president talked yesterday about the small business aspect of this. they're trying to ramp up another new program. you have to give them some grace. we're in unprecedented waters and the president is doing everything. he says things are great. >> we're away ahead of schedules. the banks have been great. j.p. morgan chase, bank of america, they're so far ahead. this is typical of you, in particular, they're not behind. it's been a flawless -- it's been flawless so far. far beyond our expectations. >> has not been flawless, has it? >> no. it hasn't been flawless. they're trying to get so much money out the door here, $350 billion to small businesses. they have a two-page application at sba.gov/coronavirus and they have to hook up that application with the banks and get this
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money out the door. some of the banks are saying they're going to be fully functional the middle of this week. i'm hopeful this week that the banks will be able to get this together and get money out the door as quickly as possible. the execution of this and the state's execution of the unemployment benefits, 250 million in enhanced unemployment benefits, that's going to be crucial to keep people from digging -- falling deeper into the hole. this isn't stimulus, per se. this is just staying alive right here this money that we're spending right now. >> and, mark, the president thinks and hopes that when this is over, we don't know when, it will be almost like flipping a switch, as long as you keep that money in the system, restaurant workers go back to work. is it that simple or is there going to be decay in the economy that makes it much harder to get back to the robust growth we were enjoying just a month ago? >> yeah, i'm afraid not. despite all the help that's coming from washington and all
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the help that will come from washington, we will see tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of business failures and bankruptcies. there won't be businesses there for those people to come back to. here's the other thing, we're having a lot of trouble here. look overseas. look into europe, the emerging markets, they're in a much worse place than we are. usually in a recession, we have one part of the world that's the engine that drives the train that pulls us out. there's no engine here in this economy. so i suspect that any kind of -- we'll get a recovery. businesses will restart and we'll get a recovery. but it's going to be very, very weak for a long period of time and it will require additional support from lawmakers down the road and we need to start thinking about other kinds of stimulus, like infrastructure spending, other things that will create jobs for folks. >> appreciate you coming in and
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and find t-mobile stores that are open near you. we've been asking, are you with us? but we want you to know, we're with you. we're testing everybody that we need to test. and we're finding very little problem. very little problem. now, you treat this like a flu. a lot of people have thought about it. ride it out. don't do anything. ride it out and think of it as the flu. but it's not the flu. it's vicious. >> that was president trump a little more than a month apart, just like the flu. not much of a problem in late february. not at all like the flu. and vicious by late march. that's one of the evolutions in a time line. his words and deeds show he played down or underestimated the threat. let's take a look at the calendar. it was at the end of december,
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china reported the existing of this virus. the president was in davos, pandemic, no. we're on top of this. >> the words about a pandemic at this point? >> not at all. we have it totally under control. it's one person coming in from china and we have it under control. and it's going to be just fine. >> you trust we're going to know everything we need to know from china. >> i do. i have a great relationship with president xi. >> no pandemic, totally under control. we trust china. that same day, tom cotton sent a sober letter to the administration saying do not trust china given its dismal record on these matters. an early warning there from a republican senator. if you look at the january calendar, at the end of the day
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the president did form the coronavirus task force and he accepted senator cotton's recommendation, blocked travel in from china. you move from january to february, the president continuing to say, though, i trust the chinese. i'm on top of this. not a big deal. >> i had a very good talk with president xi and we talked about mostly about the coronavirus. they're working really hard and i think they're doing a very professional jobs. >> it looks like by april, you know, in theory, when it gets warmer, it goes away. >> when you have 15 people and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done. >> we are in april. it did not disappear. we did not go from 15 to zero. if you watch this play out now, we know since then the first death in washington state, the president's oval office address in march, the president declared a national emergency on march 13th and three days later he announced at the time what were two weekends of those cdc guidelines for social
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distancing. they've been extended. this gets you through the end of march. even at that point, the president saying i knew it was a pandemic all along, even though he said there would not be a pandemic. he's on top of it but some mixed messages. >> i've always known this is a real -- this is a pandemic. i felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic. we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself. i hope we can do this by easter. i think that would be a great thing for our country. >> easter, of course, is now off the board. the guidelines extended through the end of the month and this is why. the president has been convinced by the experts and the numbers speak the story. this is the case count, up in march, spiking in april, 312,000 now. the big change in tone from the president was because of grim numbers, the rising case count, death tolls and projections of what would likely happen if we went ahead with his plan to reopen the country around
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easter. >> we will be extending our guidelines to april 30th to slow the spread. unfortunately the enemy is death. it's death. a lot of people are dying. it's very unpleasant. when you look at minimal numbers of 120,000 people, where you look at it could have been 2.2 million people died and more if we did nothing. >> maggie, i want to start with you, the president says he's trying to be an optimist. heading into what the public health experts say it will be the worst week, he's saying it's going to be over soon. >> i think it's fine to want to be hopeful and to want to give people hope and i think that's an understandable impulse. there's a difference between that and not telling the people who you lead the truth and that's where the president has struggled and he's struggled with the fact that he can't commit himself to the amount of
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time this is going to take to let social distancing work without questioning, well, we're going to need to make a choice at some point. we're going to have to open up soon. this is going to require a certain level of patients and the president has never shown that is his strong suit in this office. i think what you're going to continue to see is a performance like what you saw yesterday. >> and, david, you have been there at times of crises for several american presidents. what have we seen play out? i understand the president wants to be a cheerleader, first it was the health secretary in charge of the task force, then mike pence. this past week, his son-in-law jared kushner comes in. some of the governors complained they're not sure who is calling the shots. >> john, i think it was summed up well by "the washington post" today. they had a major story, put it on the front page overnight, 70 days of denial, delays and dysfunction.
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i can't get much more scathing than that. in terms of the rhetoric, there's certain something to be said about cheerleading to a point. the president has been successful have brought a stark realism to the table along with a sense of hope. and it's those two things together that balance out, that tell people, look, this is very, very serious. i think we'll get through it if we stick together. he's not following that script. every day he's zigzags. one day he's taking it seriously, the next day he has a measure that undercuts how serious he was. and we have people across the country, including in his base, that he has not talked to, people who are not taking it seriously enough. >> it seems at times, maggie, it's striking to me, yesterday another example. tony fauci says keep your foot on the gas, everybody. everybody needs to distance. everybody needs to keep the workplaces shut down. and the president says this is
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going to be over soon. he told sports commissioners, you guys need to be ready quickly. i hope after the end of april we can snap back into action when the public health experts say that's not going to be true. >> i'm unclear on what he told the sports commissioners. that was about the fall and the hope that there can be seasons going forward. i agree, i think he is trying to suggest to people this will pass quick, this will pass quick. this is going to pass when it passes. at a certain point if you put all of these actions into effect, if you put social distancing in for another month, at least it could go longer, you do need to prepare the public for that and this zigzagging, it confuses people and it makes them not take this threat as seriously as they probably should. >> in the middle of this, david, he announced late friday night he was firing the inspector general from the intelligence community who helped get the whistle-blower complaint up to congress which is all part of the big impeachment debate. the president calls it a
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witch-hunt. listen to the president. he got very defensive when he was challenged. they thought mr. atkinson was doing a good job, the president says no. >> i thought he did a terrible job. absolutely terrible. he took a whistle-blower report which turned out to be a fake report, it was fake, it was totally wrong, it was about my conversation with the president of ukraine. he took a fake report and he brought it to congress with an emergency. not a big trump fan, that i can tell you. >> the facts are that all of this big allegations by the whistle-blower were proven to be accurate. but to the point, this all happened last fall. the president decided to do this firing on friday night in the middle of a pandemic, what did that tell you? >> it tells me, first of all, they wanted to bury the story. they didn't want a lot of discussion like this out there and so they did it on a friday night. we call that the devil's triangle. you put it out friday night and nobody sees it again.
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beyond that, i do think we've got this strange and unhelpful dynamic in which he is now -- he keeps sending the bureaucracy and yet the people in the civil service and bureaucracy are the ones he needs to make this effort against the coronavirus succeed and he depends on those. he kicks the rest. it's crazy. >> crazy is a tough word for sunday morning. appreciate your coming in. we'll continue to watch this. when we come back from iowa to tanzania, a christian missionary and a palm sunday like no other. lowing you? for adults with moderately to severely active crohn's disease, stelara® works differently. studies showed relief and remission, with dosing every 8 weeks. stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and may increase your risk of infections and cancer.
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moved online. in washington, iowa, the special guest is rachel wyatt, the pastor's sister and part of a husband-wife christian missionary team in tanzania. >> just to give a little bit of perspective, you're going to be okay. we are going to be okay. >> rachel, so great to see you. i'm familiar with that closet because i watched your facebook live fellowship. it seems upside down, you're in tanzania, a less-developed country, yet you're going into the closet because your kids are asleep to you can talk to your friends in iowa, churchgoers, you're giving them a pep talk. shouldn't they be giving you a pep talk? >> i don't know, it seems like everything is upside down these days. >> why was it so important for you to reach out, quoting your mother, quoting the scripture,
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and saying, we're going to be okay? >> all of a sudden america is not the safe place anymore. and i think people can be scrambling. and i just wanted to get on and give a perspective, as somebody who, long before covid-19 came, we had to live by faith every single day. i thought it would be a perfe perspective that could help. >> your mission is to build a church, and you have services. among the amazing photos you sent was a hand washing station outside the church. >> yes, sir. >> are you still having services now? are you starting to this we nnk need to separate more? >> the government has said it is safe to still have services. they've asked we have hand washing stations. our church has taken extra precautions and we have an infrared thermometer that we test everybody coming in, if somebody has a fever, we ask them to go home.
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we're spreading people out, there's only two to three on a pew or on a bench. if it reaches the point where the government says, hey, it's not safe to meet anymore, we will stop meeting. >> if you reach the point where you think you needed to leave, that it was better for you and your family, whether it's a safety issue, whether it's a medical issue, only one commercial carrier is flying. would you be at risk of being stuck? >> if that commercial air carrier stopped. the embassy has been tremendous, they have indicated there would be a possibility of an evacuation, either a chartered flight or military evacuation flight to get the u.s. citizens back to america. and it really is a comfort to know that there would possibly be that option, that the embassy has our backs, they're backing us up. it makes you proud to be an american. >> i asked you what you tell your kids. what do they tell you? >> they're still young, it's all crazy, what's happening.
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we assure them, god knows what's going on, it's nothing new to him. we tell them what is going on in little kid language as best we can. and they're okay with it, because they're resilient, kids will pretty much adopt the attitude of their parents. if the parents are calm and assured that everything will be okay, the kids will too. >> that optimism is contagious. that was some great parenting advice right there from rachel wyatt. that's it for us this sunday. up next, "state of the union" with jake tapper. his guests including mark esper, john bel edwards, j.b. pritzker, and democratic whip jim clyburn. thanks for sharing your sunday. please stay safe. be well. but there's no mistaking it. and it's our job to protect it. because the best people to fight for our communities are those within them. so if you've just bought a volkswagen, or were thinking of buying sometime soon, we're here to help
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united states? as the u.s. braces for a painful two weeks -- >> there will be a lot of death. >> -- president trump casts blame on states desperate for medical supplies. >> many of the states were totally unprepared for this. >> i'll techniqspeak to the gov of some of the worst-hit states, next. and facing criticism over the decision to fire a navy captain. >> i agree with their decision

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