stockpiles available. ventilators, other critically important equipment available to hospitals. states, local governments all over the country. we'll continue to stay on top of this. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. "erin burnett outfront" picks up our special coverage. breaking news as new york and new jersey face their deadliest day yet the head of the cdc says the number of u.s. deaths linked to coronavirus could be less than predicted. and the disproportionate impact that the coronavirus is having on black communities across the country. why? dr. sanjay gupta has a new report and plus new talks about putting the country back to work. what would that even look like? gary cohn is my guest. let's go "outfront." good evening. the breaking news. president trump said we're in the midst of a very difficult

week as he said the u.s. may be getting to the top of the curve. this is the death toll in the united states now tops 12,000. confirmed cases are approaching 400,000, but we are at more than 387,000 could be specific and new numbers out of new york and new jersey today confirming the deadliest day there and the reported deaths for both states in new york. so far, this number has changed over the past hour. 806 people have died. and while there are still major challenges ahead the director of the cdc is actually saying that the u.s. death toll could be much lower thatton 200,000 that he originally predicted. erica hill is "outfront" in new york. you know, they have talked about this model, right? this is the model that's been used to justify actions taken across this country, dramatic actions about the possible death toll and today they say they're revising that sharply downward. >> yeah. that certainly had a number of people sitting up and paying attention. obviously anybody would like to see that number revised

downward. americans are listening to these very important orders to stay home. with about 97% of the country now under stay at home orders new evidence it may be working. >> the numbers are going to be much, much, much lower than would have been predikded by the models. >> reporter: the director of the cdc said the u.s. death toll could be far lower than 200,000 thanks to widespread social distancing which models had estimated 50% of the american public would follow. the reality today is much higher. though officials caution this is no time to ease up. on monday, new york logged the largest single day death toll. one overwhelmed funeral home doing its best to meet the need. >> we're no longer embalming

them. >> why is that? >> just because we don't have time to have visitations. we're burying directly or direct cremation. >> reporter: health care workers are sounding the alarm about personal protective equipment. in maryland, one tried to make a face shield out of a page protector and face shield. >> i started to cry. i thought -- i can't imagine anybody working, wearing something like that. >> reporter: staff also a major concern. retired nurses and doctors answering the call to help relieve those on the front lines. >> i have never seen emergency departments or nursing or any of the services actually in general under so much threat and you know it's a family so when family is threatened you try to step up as much as you can. >> reporter: on board the

"comfort" which will be dedicated to covid patients, the number of builds have been cut to 500 due to safety. one has tested positive. meanwhile, a sobering picture of the growing need. >> everybody out here is risking their lives to get this application. >> we have given out hundreds of applications. >> reporter: in connecticut unemployment applications are about 20 times higher than anything the state has seen during a recession. wisconsin voters on tuesday trying to keep their distance at the polls. as one of the nation's largest grocery chains announcing new restrictions on capacity over concerns about how and where the virus is spreading. in miami beach, face covering is required for all customers and employees at grocery stores, pharmacies, restaurants including those making deliveries. erin, to give you a sense of

where we're at, we talked about the highest single day of deaths in new york state. we heard 806 new deaths reported today. triple the number of new deaths reported on monday. and when we looked to where the numbers are coming from we learned from the nypd, the 13th coronavirus related death there. >> all right, erica, thank you. and "outfront" tonight, dr. gupta. sanjay, you know, a lot to talk about from the briefing. you know, i wanted to ask you about this drug. he brings it up again. hydroxychloroquine. and in this case he emphasized twice he wasn't a doctor but he continued to say that he would try it. and he specifically also said that you're not going to die from it. he gave a whole story about a woman that he said was a democrat, an african-american and now trusts him because he said this about the drug and she took it and four hours later it

was like a miracle. he said she was better. what's your reaction to that? what he said. >> you know, erin, i think everybody is -- as we talked about before in the world wants a drug to work, wants a medication that can work because we're in the midst of a pandemic. something that most people alive really been through before. it isn't evidence what he is talking about and it's no at question of being a doctor at this point. doctors may have some ideas in term of why a certain medication may work, who should get it, who shouldn't get it, but the reality is we don't know right now. that's why it needs to be trialed. there are concerns about just sort of giving medications without evidence. there could be potential problems. i'll give you an example with this particular medication it may be working in part by suppressing the immune system. in somebody who has a weakened immune system that could be a

problem to give a medication like that. in someone who has an overreactive immune system it may be a good choice but we don't know. we don't know the dosing or the duration, at what stage. i think what i was concerned about besides the stories being used as evidence is it being trialed right now? we keep hearing that the millions of doses have come to new york city. are they just been given without being studied? because that would be a real problem. you know, in the end, what might end up happening is a potentially legitimate medication we may never responsibly apply it to people who could really benefit from it. it's dangerous potentially to patients, and dangerous to the public because we may be losing out on something that's valuable. >> of course we know it can cause heart and liver damage. there are side effects.

the president then said that hydroxychloroquine is good for hospital workers to take and you know his words i believe here i jotted it down were oh, it keeps it out of your system. which is a direct way of saying if you take this stuff it will prevent you from getting the virus is there any truth to that? >> not that i heard. essentially describing this as a prophylactic, to take it prophylactically. there was a study out of china, small study, something we'd never report on on cnn it was not at that level of evidence yet. but in the patients it was given to those who had mild disease. now, thankfully most patients with mild disease don't progress to serious or critical illness. you know? 80% of people you know recover from this illness. and maybe the numbers are even higher as we do more testing so

how do you know whether it was the medicine or someone's natural history of fighting the disease? you don't know. so you're potentially subjecting people to a risk not knowing whether the medication actually helps. just quickly, erin, in that study they also excluded patients who had any kind of heart rhythm problem, liver problems or kidney dysfunction as well. that's why we do the trials. it isn't a question of being a doctor, i don't know the answer. i'm a doctor. nobody does. that's why you have to do the studies. >> right. of course though one thing we do know from interviewing you know many people is that, you know, at least up to that point they were giving other things as well, everything can help. it's difficult to say if it was any of, none of, or getting better on its own. very hard to say. in new york, which obviously has been the epicenter and i know obviously a lot of places in the country, d.c. metro area where

now the growth rates are really ramping up, but in new york you had a new one-day high in deaths. 806 people died in new york today but hospitalizations are slowing. how much do you read into that? >> i think it's significant, potentially. i think it's hopeful. i mean, you want to see the trends continue. but it's important to keep in mind that, you know, the picture we're seeing right now in new york and everywhere that's doing ramping up testing is a lagged picture because between the time that someone is exposed to the virus, between the time they go to the hospital, you're starting to talk about a couple, three weeks. so you're looking at a a picture of a couple, three weeks ago. if hospitalizations are slowing now, in 10 days should deaths slow down a week? i think it's hopeful and also even though the number of deaths

go up the fact that the pace that the number of people dying is starting to slow i think that's also hopeful. but you want to see that continue. >> all right. sanjay, thank you very much. you will be back because he has a special report about the disproportionate impact that it's had on the black community in country. right now i want to go to andrew cuomo who is joining me on the phone. i don't know if you didn't hear sanjay, we were talking about the terrible news today, which is the death rate record in new york. 806 deaths but your hospitalizations have started to slow. what do you read into that? >> good evening, erin. did it hear sanjay and i agree with what he's saying, not just tonight but in general. he's a great source. the -- it is a terrible day today in new york. the highest number ever of deaths. as sanjay was saying it's called a lagging indicator. if you come into the hospital,

and you're not treated and discharged you wind up on a ventilator. the longer you're on a ventilator the less likely you get off the ventilator. and two weeks later, you tend to see the number of deaths increasing. that's what we're seeing now. so you have two numbers really. the number of deaths is at an all-time high today. but the hospitalization rate is slowing. so the number of people coming into the system is slowing. apparently leveling off. plateauing. we're not 100% sure, but a spike in the number of deaths. >> when you look at the javits center where you had around 50 people but you had the capacity for many more than that, well over 1,000, do you think you may end up because of the social distancing not actually needing -- i know your hope is you won't need it, is it possible you won't need that extra capacity? >> well, two things, erin.

the entire hospital system is overcapacity right now. so the relief valve of the javits center which is converted into the 2,500 bed facility and the navy ship "comfort" which can hold another 500 that's a relief valve to the hospital system and the hospital system not only is overcapacity but they have been for weeks and they are stressed and the staff is getting sick. so that's very important. but the second point is, you know, people talk about projection models. there is no model. it is what we do. the number is determined by us. the quote/unquote social distancing. if we do a better job at social distancing the number goes down. ifwe get complacent and people start to go out you're going to to see that number go up. so none of this is

predetermined, right? god hasn't said this is what's going to happen. it depends on what we do and people have to remember that. >> so when larry kudlow says we can reopen the economy in four to eight weeks that's a big range, but you talk about the weather and when you see the numbers start to plateau, people are -- you'll have more people coming out. how worried are you about at that point it wouldn't be a second surge but about this taking you off course over the next few weeks? >> oh, i am concerned about it. look i just doubled the fine for violators of social distancing. because what -- exactly what you said was happening, the weather has turned warm. people have been in their homes for one month, everyone has cabin fever and they're coming out in greater numbers. a place like new york city, you can't really walk down the crowded sidewalk and maintain social distancing.

it's a physical impossibility. if that happens the numbers will go up and you're right. not even worried about a second wave. i'm worried about getting out of the situation we're in right now and saving as many lives as possible and that will be a direct coefficient of how well we comply with social distancing. so what i'm saying to new yorkers is look, this is not about me. this is about we. right? this really is a time where your own individual actions affect other people. it can literally kill other people. and for you to be irresponsible in your actions and jeopardize someone elle's life is the height of irresponsibility. we have first responders killing themselves every day in hospitals and we should be helping them not creating more of a burden for them. >> so another question tonight, the president just said, governor, about resources. he said we have 110,000

ventilators coming over a short period of time. that's his quote. he said that 60,000 of those won't arrive until june 29th. obviously, you can do the math. so you have 50,000 between now and then from the federal supply. what does that say to you? is that a surprise to you, do you have what you need now? >> it's not a surprise to me. we know that no one had the number of ventilators that were going to be required here. and these ventilators sort of came out of the blue of just for this pandemic. and this particular respiratory disease. we have been scrambling with ventilators. we move them all over the state like pieces on a chess board literally whatever hospital has the greatest in flow that night we move ventilators around the state. we have also used other machines

that have a ventilating capacity, something called the bipap machine, you can take one ventilator and literally run two sets of tubes to treat two patients. i understand there's a delivery of ventilators june or whatever and that's going to be past our problem, hopefully. the apex in new york and i guess most other places but god forbid there's a second wave, the ventilators will be here. but they're not going to make a difference in the next two weeks obviously. right now we are okay. but we're literally moving pieces all across the chess board every day. >> so trump also just said at his press conference, i will protect you if your governor fails. this was not a reference to you specifically but in general to governors across the country. what do you say to that?

>> i don't know what the president meant by that. erin, if i were to try to interpret every statement he made there's a whole occupation in that so i don't know. i know i have been working with him, the federal government has a very important role here. i was a cabinet secretary i know how important the federal government's role is. i know how important the state's role is, so far, so good working with the federal government. but every day is a new day. >> all right, governor cuomo, thank you sir. >> thank you, erin. next why is coronavirus disproportionately impacting the black community? dr. gupta is back with a special in depth report along with the mayor of chicago. plus the top economic adviser says that the country can hopefully pick up where we left off in as few as four weeks? gary cohn is "outfront." and boris johnson is spending a second day in the

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diabetes and high blood pressure is why coronavirus is killing a disproportionate number of african-americans. >> when you look at the predisposing infections with coronavirus the things that get people into icus that require intubation and often lead to death they are the comorbidities that are unfortunately disproportionately in the african-americans and we're concern about what. >> that concern is something we're seeing across the country. dr. sanjay gupta is "outfront." >> reporter: in the beginning covid-19 was far away. and it didn't even have a name. >> it was coming over to our shores from people who had traveled. >> reporter: but once it got a foot hold in the united states the true self was revealed. >> once people got infected because of the diabetes and heart disease and the like, if they would get it more severely and be at higher risk of dying.

>> reporter: dr. jones is past president of the american public health association. i was really struck -- we're both doctors and i was hearing the story it sounded all of a sudden tragically familiar. is this a familiar story? >> what we see is so familiar because the conditions of our lives haven't changed. significantly. so what's happening is that we are carrying the burden of these limited opportunities in our bodies and it shows up as diabetes, heart disease, hypertension. even in terms of immune compromised. >> reporter: we are hearing that blacks have been disproportionately hit by the outbreak. in michigan, where i grew up, 14% of the population is black. though they make up 41% of coronavirus deaths. in illinois, 15% identify as african-american. but they make up 42% of deaths.

louisiana's population is 32% black. which accounts for about 70% of coronavirus deaths. but here's the problem according to dr. jones. as inadequate as testing has been for the country, the problem is even worse for african-americans. >> our whole national testing strategy has started off as a clinical strategy and not a public health strategy and that has disadvantaged the whole nation in terms of knowing who is infected and i am told also that it has been harder for many people of color to get the test just because of where testing stations will located. >> reporter: while blacks are less likely to be teffted or treated they are likely to be on the front line, essential workers. >> we are here as public workers doing our job trying to make an honest living to take care of

our families. >> reporter: detroit bus driver jason hargrove posted this online. >> reporter: it's not as easy for them to shelter in place an not as easy because they may have jobs like home health aides or bus drivers or working at amazon and the like. >> for you to get on the bus and stand on the bus and cough several times without covering up your mouth and you know that we in the middle of the pande c pandemic, that -- that lets me know that some folks don't care. >> reporter: four days later, hargrove who is 50 years old became ill. he died last wednesday and still unclear how he got covid-19. >> sanjay is back with me. i guess the big question here is

how do we get more data about who is impacted by this and why you're seeing those numbers you just laid out state by state in terms of 15% of the population is african-american and your infection rate is what 45 to 70% depending on the state. >> it's very hard to get this data, erin. first of all, everyone knows there's inadequate testing as it stands but so much of this data, you know, reported by news organizations because they started to dig into this it really wasn't being categorized. there are long stranding structural inequalities towards blacks this this country and that's what i was getting at in the piece. two things that are important. we might get into the situation which would be really tragic where resources might have to be rationed. we would hope inequalities based on race wouldn't play any factor at all when it comes to that. to be clear that's the most

immediate concern but then, yeah, we need to really make sure that the data is being collected and sort of stratified by demographics so we can learn from this so it doesn't affect the care that people deserve as we go forward. >> all right, thank you. i want to go to the mayor of chicago, lori lightfoot. you have said that the number of african-americans dying from coronavirus in your city takes your breath away. and i believe correct me if i'm wrong on the numbers we have from your city, but 68% of all coronavirus deaths are coming from black chicagoans. meanwhile, 30% of your population is that same group. what do you make of it? >> so it's 30% population, 52% of the confirmed cases and 72% of the deaths. that is breathtaking.

and i think it's what dr. gupta was just talking about. the reality is we have been talking about health disparities in the black community which put them more at risk. whether it's diabetes, heart disease or upper respiratory illnesses and what we now know about the virus it attacks the underlying medical conditions with a vengeance. and we're seeing that in the numbers reflected. so it's shocking, it really is. but it's not entirely surprising given the health disparities that we have been talking about for a number of years. >> so president trump talked about this today in this briefing and he said this about statistics which we need more of. but it shows exactly what you're talking about, right, this is disproportionately killing african-americans. here's what he said. >> why is it three or four times more so for the black community as opposed to other people? it doesn't make sense. i don't like it. and we're going to have statistics over the next

probably two to three days. >> do you have any sense of what those are or what those statistics may show or delving into? >> look, i think one of the things that we have to reckon with is that african-americans and other people of color do not have access to health care at the rates that we -- otherwise would enjoy. one of the things we're doing here in chicago is one, we're going to make sure that we get the data so that we have a full measure of the impact of coronavirus across our city but particularly in the african-american community. number two, we have put together what we are calling a racial equity rapid response team to make sure that we're doing hyper local connections in education of people, to connect them up with health care and make sure they're edge cased about the virus, we're giving them tips on how to actually practice social distancing but the reality is that the access of health care

is at the crux of the problem. that's why we need to make sure that the affordable care act remains strong and that medicaid is expanded not just in chicago and illinois but across the country. it is critically important to the life and death of our residents. >> the president of the american medical association today said she spend weeks debunking a myth that african-americans could not get the virus. >> i spent the first two weeks of the pandemic just on a personal note more even so in my professional capacity telling people that it is absolutely a false rumor that african-americans could not be infected with covid-19. >> and in a new op-ed, van jones said, quote, when i warn my family of the coming pandemic my highly educated cousin said, no,

we have the antibodies for that. i'm sure you have seen some of this as well. i had interviewed a patient who was talking about this very same issue. how big of a challenge has this been for you? this thinking. >> well, look, unfortunately that myth which is just wrong, it's absolutely prevalent in black communities in chicago and i think across the nation, but the reality is the first death in our city was an african-american woman. so we have to educate all of our people about what the risks are, who gets it, how it's spread and what they can do to protect themselves. we have to really go deep at the neighborhood level to make sure that we're reaching people that aren't otherwise connected up to the internet, to cnn and we're doing -- we're going to do that through a lot of different means. the faith community, block clubs. we are using street intervention

workers and we'll educate people about this virus. >> mayor lightfoot, i appreciate your time and i thank you. >> thank you. and next, president trump says he wants america to get back to work but the big question of course is when? trump's former top economic adviser gary cohn is my guest and now a warning that nancy pelosi should isolate herself. that doctor, jonathan reiner, is "outfront."

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tonight top white house adviser economic adviser larry kudlow says he hopes the economy can reopen in the next four to eight weeks. "outfront" now is gary cohn. and gary, i appreciate you taking the time so i just want to start off on this crucial point, as, you know, we all hope that these numbers start to plateau and this country starts to come out of this. four to eight weeks to reopen the economy do you think that is even possible? >> look, erin, we are all hoping for the best here. we hope that the social distancing is working.

we hope we have seen the worst and it will take some time to open the economy. i think we'll have to go through a very incremental approach in reopening the economy. i think that's going to be different from city to city, state to state, county to county so yes it can take a couple months to get back to the more normalized economic picture in the united states. >> so, you know, obviously when you say somewhat of a more normalized, you know, i mean, there can be a lot of things i would presume that aren't happening like large sporting events or conferences, big events like that. all right. one of the ways though as you know, gary, we have been hearing about this this. potentially reopening this economy, the issue of an antibody test. you can find out who's had the virus and is now healthy. assuming that they can't get it again, they can potentially return to the workforce. citigroup said 95% of working

age americans could get the working antibody test by the end of next month. do you think antibody testing is an important part of this or not? >> absolutely. i think testing is imperative to be part of the form of reopening the economy. we'll need to know exactly where people stand, what people can do. we don't want to put anybody in harm's way. the most important thing about reopening the economy is not having a major relapse. we know those people with antibodies, where they can fit into the reopening of the economy, we know people without antibodies we have to put them in a different position. so i think the testing is going to continue to be very important. as we try and do a meticulous and very thoughtful job of this reopening of our economy. >> so, you know, to this point, i don't know if you saw, you know, iceland did the random testing, it's a small country so they were able to do it. they tested 5% of the

population. one of the things they found out 1% of those tested they had the coronavirus. i asked this, gary, because it raises the point what if did the antibody test and only 5 or 10% of the people have it, does that totally change the game on reopening the game? >> we need to know it and yes, it will have an impact on how we reopen the economy. i guess if we're lucky enough that people have the antibodies, "a" we'll know what the fatality rate was, we'll know what the potency of the coronavirus was, but "b" we'll be able to make a more aggressive approach if we know there are a lot of people with antibodies around. if there are fewer and fewer antibodies in the system, we're going to have to be much more methodical in the way we think of reopening the economy. and we'll have to devise a very

specific plan knowing that at any given day we would potentially have to change the way we're thinking about it, because if the disease reappears at any point, we're going have to change the way we're thinking about it, change the way the plan goes and be very adaptable. i think the antibody testing allows us to be more straightforward in our planning and without that it will be a lot more fluid. >> so i think it's so interesting how you think through that. so today, you know, the president -- i don't know if you saw the briefing, but you obviously heard about the memos that peter navarro had put out there warning about the possibly death toll, about it being a possible pandemic back in january and the president said he had not seen those specific memos at that time. we know that the intelligence community was warning about the seriousness of the virus in january and that alex azar had said last year that the thing that keeps him up at night was

pandemic flu. now, you know president trump and you have obviously dealt with him extensively. why didn't he hear some of those things? whether it was from azar or the intelligence community, why didn't he hear any of this earlier? >> erin, i don't know. look, i have been out of the white house for almost two years right now. and i'm not privy to the discussion that was going on in the white house or the memos or the existence of the memos or not. so look, i'm not in a position to comment on what is going on there. i think there's going to be plenty of time for us to a postmortem on what happened, what memos were not written or written. i think it's more important to figure out how to conquer this disease, i applaud the american people the social distancing, 97% of the people are staying at home. that's great, because it will allow us to renormalize the

economy sooner than many of us thought a few weeks ago. >> so when you talk about what to do to beat this the united states right now obviously has already spent trillions and we anticipate there will be much more spent to fight the virus, economic stimulus, whatever form that is taking and will take in the future. so right now there's been no concern at all about the cost of doing that and frankly the cost of borrowing and it's not an expensive thing to do right now, but it will explode the national debt. you have states in dire situations including the one you and i are sitting in tonight. is there a danger of spending too much and not far out this country could have a big issue because of that? >> right now there's no danger. the danger is to spend too little. when we look at the payroll replacement plan or the protection plan we have in place we have no choice but to do that. we need to allow american citizens to be able to put food on their table and buy the drugs

that they need to buy to make sure they are healthy and their families are healthy. whatever that cost right now it will cost that. we'll have plenty of time to figure out how to pay for this. look, this is a big wake-up call for congress. we have to sit down and go through the entire budget of the united states and reconcile how we spend money and we have to go through our tax system and how we raise revenue in this country and say, look, going forward, we know that at any given moment we may have to be in a position to spend 3 to $5 trillion on a pandemic or some other type of crisis and we have to put our financial house in order to do that. i hope our politicians do that. if they don't, we should elect politicians that are willing to do that. >> gary cohn, thank you very much tonight. >> thank you, erin, for having me. and next, british prime minister boris johnson he's still in the icu the second day. my next guest, a doctor who

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tonight british boris johnson is on in the icu. joining us is the doctor for president bush and from george washington hospital. dr. reiner, prime minister johnson's condition is stable. he is getting oxygen. but what do you make of the fact he's in the icu we're hearing for the second day?

>> good news he's not on a ventilator. it's particularly ominous in the prognosis is particularly bad when someone is transferred to an icu and is intubated put on the ventilator within the first 24 hours. so the fact having covid-19 and being admitted to an icu is a poor prognostic finding. i wish him well, but he has a big fight ahead of him. >> and you had talked about some of the statistics you've been following out of the u.k. which is, of course, where he's hospitalized. those are the most in-depth statistics we have in terms of how dire it is when you are in the icu or on a ventilator. >> yeah, so, we know from the u.k. experience that folks who are admitted to an icu with covid-19 have a about a 50%

mortality rate. almost two-thirds of people who end up on the respirator -- on the ventilator will succumb to the illness. so it's, again, a very adverse prognostic finding to be admitted to an intensive care unit with this particular disease. he can survive it and -- he's young and he has a reasonable chance of surviving this, but he's sick. >> you know, to this point, okay, when he had it, right, he was doing a video, right. he said i'm going to be -- i'm fine, i have some mild symptoms. and then ten days later he's taken to the hospital as a precautionary step. then suddenly he's in the icu receiving oxygen. and that is a similar tale we have heard again and again and again from many people who have gotten very sick. mild symptoms, maybe some got a little worse than that. basically felt better, and then all of a sudden at around day ten, this dramatic turn for the worst. what is it that is happening in

those situations where people think they're fine and this dramatic turn around again, day ten? >> well, a lot of things can happen. so, you know, the virus initially invades the respiratory epithelium and invades the lungs and people develop an overwhelming pneumonia. typically in both lungs. that creates the shortness of breath, that creates the chest pain. that creates the difficulty in delivering oxygen to the body. and that either gets -- starts to get better or it gets actually worse. as the body fights the infection, the body -- the immune system elaborates an aggressive immune response, an inflammatory response, and paradoxically and dangerously sometimes, this immune response can be overwhelming. and, in fact, work against the patient and start to affect the liver and the kidneys, and worst of all, the heart. and this all begins sometimes

around day ten. day ten becomes sort of a pivot point. people who have the virus either start to look like they're starting to get better, or they take this dramatic turn for the worst. classic -- over and over. >> obviously we see that with prime minister johnson. you also have expressed that last night we were talking about this, your concern that president trump and vice-president pence are still obviously side by side and spending so much time together. you would have thought that at this point they would be separated. you think it would go farther than that. >> the president has likened the coronavirus pandemic as a war. if it's a war we haven't done a good job taking care of the foot soldiers, the nurses and doctors on the front line. i'm concerned we're not doing the protect to protect the generals, our leadership. we see over and over again, we see the president, vice-president together. we need to protect and need to be isolated.

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