timetable, that's where we are. >> jim. >> after we received that question yesterday. we reached out to the hospital in city, there was one that would like some new swabs, we are sending them 200 test kits today so they'll have that. they're not out. they wanted for the future. i was on the phone with a lot of people. people get nervous getting out of masks and stuff but oftentimes they have 30-day of supplies. if they need it, we'll send it the them. >> i think melissa spoke that yesterday on the various protocols and we are working closely with the hospitals as well as the front line workers to get them the needed supply. >> bernadette. >> as we are talking about

reopening the economy and specific to schools, what would have to happen first for school to open specifically in new york city in regards to the planning? >> they have to work together. you can open one system let's see, gears this is an analogy. transportation and economic and and schools. they all intermesh, you have to turn the other two gears. you can't tell me to go back to to work. you can't tell me to go back to work in new york city if you don't have the transit system operating. i take the train from west chester to new york city. i can't go back to work. unless you want everybody to drive which would be pandamonium

in four minutes. if you want me to go back to work, and children are not back to school, who's watching the children? people didn't want to close the schools because they said hospital workers won't be able to show up because the children will be at home. if hospital workers don't show up, we have a major problem. our major concern was collapse of the hospital. all of these things have to be coordinated and coordinated on a statewide basis. there were many school districts that disagree.

we have 700 school districts in the state. all the school district makes their own decision. i know. in a situation like this, you can't have 700 school districts making all the decisions. you can consult and cooperate and etc. we have to have one plan at the end of the day because we have to take new york and try to coordinate it with new jersey and connecticut and delaware and pennsylvania and rhode island to the best we can. and this virus does not understand. schools and transportations and jobs they don't work on a county basis. it does not work that way. suffix county, that's a nice lineation. the entire metropolitan area and

you go upstate, you can argue there should be a differentiation based on numbers or differentiation and that's going to be the conversation when we bring connecticut and new jersey and pennsylvania, rural parts of the state. we have metropolitan area. that's all going of to be talked through and reconcile. >> we are talking to a number of states and we want to coordinate as much as possible. focusing primarily on our tri-state area. the more we can. you also have to balance the complexity and unwillingness of coming up with a plan relatively quickly so that we can agree on.

we'll try to work with everyone but again you have different states and different situations and you have to prioritize where you really need coordination. we need coordination for connecticut first and for most. that's where our work force comes from. you have a total interconnection among those things. people live from connecticut and they drive to new jersey. there is a total interconnection among them. that's the primary place for coordination. >> if i tell you the announcement today, why would you come here at 2:00, except for my humor.

>> you can have a hot spot depends on how you define hot spot. hot spot within five miles or 100 miles? it depends on how you define hot spot? is it 2 people or 25 infection rate? you have clusters that pop up of course the state. as soon as you see some smoke and you see a little fire, run out of there as fast as you can. in buffalo we have had clusters that popped up, nassau and suffix and rochester and rockla rockland, they all have clusters. >> when you say you believe the worst is over, are you encouraging the kind of behavior

that you are trying to prevent, this optimism for people to get out of their home. >> no, that's why i have said it 50 times, stay the course, take precautio precautions, stay inside. that's why i have said it 100 times to repetitive levels. facts are facts, i am not going to lie to the public. numbers are numbers. i need the public to believe in the credibility of what we are doing, right? credibility comes from two elements in my opinion. are you giving me all of the information or are you spinning me? are you deciding that you can't tell me facts because i may become too optimistic. are you manipulating me with giving me information which is what i think you suggest.

no, you get all the facts. i am not worried that you can't handle information. second, what i am proposing you do is drawn from those facts here is all the information, i work for you and i give you all the information no spin and no gloss and no sugar, no glazing, hear the facts. i am not worried that you can't handle the facts or you are being optimistic or irrational. hear all the facts. second component, here is what i propose based on those facts. i think it is the intelligent response to those facts. i hope you agree with me that it is the intelligent response and follow the proposal because i need you to follow the proposal because it is all about you. if you, the public and the

people decide to social distancing. if the people don't decide to stay home, nothing works. i can never mandate 19 million people, you must stay in your house. new yorkers can say um, i think you are being overly dramatic or too political or you don't know what you are talking about. what do i do with 19 million people? go out and arrest 19 million people? they have to believe it. so they get all the facts. i am not going to shape the information they get. here is my policy based on the numbers. here is what i suggest and i hope you think it is not only creditable but competence and smart. i hope you accept it. that's the best i can do. democratic governor new york andrew cuomo, he opens saying he

has some good news. the curve of new york continues to flatten. and he showed you the cases recently flatten. you can see the u.s. death toll at 22,154 on the side of your screen. new york state tends to be running around 47% and 48% of the national death toll there. the challenge moving towards a reopening slowly but cautiously. this is time for effective government. let's discuss with our cguest, dr. brillent. when they have an apex or a plateau, it looks like if you look at the last five or six days they have a plateau. it is encouraging news but you

are no means out of the woods. >> you are exactly right. let's take a step back, we did not know physical distancing would stop or help us stop this virus. we look now at this plateau. we have a tool that works. it is not going to reduce the number of cases or deaths on its own. now that we have this beginning of a plateau, this is not a time to pull back that tool. it is the time to pull it down. let's find out all the clusters and find the contact and test them. let's quarantine those and then we can decide where and how we can led up. let's not slow down and double down. >> let's talk about that. you understand and most people

watching we learned terms and learned of social distancing and we all learned new terms of this new normal. nobody knows how long we'll be at the plateau because nobody has been here before. we are a novel coronavirus. he's talking about a long period of time. only when we have a vaccine, a year or a year and a half away. he's talking about the interim period. he says we need more testing. new york has been a leader nationally and new york leading the country of the number of te testing. his whole new paradigm of if you are going to put people more out on the streets and starting people to go to work, who's most essential and how often do you take people's temperatures. walk us through the challenges ahead. >> i live here for ten years and working on a smallpox program.

that kills one out of three. you can see on people's faces it was not asymptomatic spread but we learned something. when we thought we are in the clear and we led up and we stop finding cases and went away and looked the other way, the virus came back. the density of susceptible has hardly been touched. it is hardly been touched we have learned how to pace the epidemic. we should use the breathing space that we have to find every case of the cluster and find out a vaccine where we have a strong tool in quarantine. find every case and test them and contact them and quarantine. that'll get us through the time we need through the antivirus

and vaccine. that'ses the new normal. >> we are not ready up to the point that you can do that testing and identification and quarantine those in needed. dr. larry brilliant. let's bring in our correspondent kaitlyn collins. the medical conversation there with dr. brilliant. you heard dr. cuomo said it is his job getting people to back to work. he's thinking about it but he has to be careful. just before the president of the united states tweeting out this is my decision, not the governors. that's my paraphrase of the president's two tweets. that's what he's saying in his tweets. cuomo never mentions president trump and he did say a few other regional partners, hef was goin to try to do it not with the president but with a group of

governors. >> the optimum is to have a coordinated original plan as you can. i understand the coordination can be some what of an oxymoron but to the extent we can work with connecticut and rhode island and delaware and pennsylvania, i want to. it is smarter for everyone and for people of their state and the people of my state. this is a time for smart competence effective government. >> that's his take. this is one line of those two tweets. >> it is the decision of the president. the governor clearly does not see it that way. >> that's what we have been hearing from many governors. they're the ones making the decision here. since the president floating the easter deadline which has come and gone reopening the country.

a lot of people saying they're going to make their decisions based on the data they have. the president declared this morning he has the power to entrepreneur up the states and the country. he was not the one that closed them down. it was the governors. some of them were very belated on doing that including my home state alabama. one of the last one to issue a stay-at-home order. people in that state were going out and doing things despite those federal guidelines that the white house put out because their governors have not put something out. these governors are going to look at the white house for guidan guidance. they have been saying that multiple times and not only when it comes the gears in the hospital. they want to know how the federal government is planning this. we know that comes as a president is preparing to open that task force. trump is saying he does have the authority, we have not heard any governor agreed with the president on that. before that we only heard them say really they'll be making their own decisions.

ultimately it is going to come down to the people. when they feel confidentabmfort to work and going to the stores freely. that's what makes the ultimately decision of opening up the country. it is the consumer. >> the president seems to have a different opinion at the moment. we'll see. kaitlan collins. when we come back, rick san torn is joining us. confident financial plans, calming financial plans, complete financial plans. they're all possible with a cfp® professional. find yours at letsmakeaplan.org. they're all possible with a cfp® professional. there will be parties and family gatherings. there will be parades and sporting events and concerts. to help our communities when they come back together, respond to the 2020 census now.

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two big issues among many challenges facing the president of the united states. one is the debate when to reopen the economy amid of the coronavirus. we are learning more frustration from the president about his relationship with dr. anthony fauci. the president has been complaining of dr. fauci for a while. he's mad about something he said

about sunday of what dr. fauci said. let's get some perspective now with rick santorim. it is good to see you, senator from afar. dr. fauci did an interview yesterday which he said something that was candid and common sense. if you started the restrictions earlier, lives would have been saved. and of course we did not get to the president's guidelines until a month after that. why does he get so mad when his people tell the truth? >> well, i think that's what upsetting him.

if you look at the time when the commission recommended, there were maybe half a dozen or a dozen of people died in the country from the virus. when it looks like there was not a whole lot concern would have been a very unusual thing to do and unwarranted thing to do at that time. i think the president looks like he was ahead of the curve as you know and he talks about it all the time. imagine if he would have done this, he would get criticized for this, too. we need a team that looks forward instead of trying the second guess everything. no disaster of the history of this country. they are all talk. he also does some good things and he seems to be on a good footing right now. >> i hope you are right. the exercise of our democracy and the sense that the documents

of "the new york times" story, the transparency of government. i get it. when the middle of a crisis and you are the president, you don't want to talk about that now. you want to talk it later. he was right, chuck schumer calling him racist. that was the right call. it is fair to say when he made that right call. he did not take urgent step to ramp up testings and do a few other things that may have helped him or would have helped him at the time. >> look, i don't think the president gets a perfect score on his response but he gets some high marks for doing things that were controversial and lower marks for not heeding the advice on something early on. overall what he's done is he's broken the glass and he allowed the government function in a way they have not to expedite a lot of things moving forward from testing and therapies, i know the fda is working overtime.

i know personally because i have been involved with some companies that are trying to work this tchlt they are bending over backward to make this therapy available and i think the president deserves the credit for that. >> help me out for this. you are a constitutional conservative and you have different views on federal powers. the president tweeted that it is his call, we live in a 50-state republic. i spoke to many governors and governor cuomo of new york just saying this is up to me and i am going to try to work with my partner partners in the region. the president can't order the reopening of the american of the economy. >> that's correct. the president can set a tone. if the president goes out and says in these particular areas whether it is geographic al that we have morre robust testings.

there is a big effort out there trying to get businesses to do testing on their own and not to send people to the hospital just to do screenings so their employees can feel safe coming to work. everybody from major league baseball and manufactures looking at employees to see how they can giver them a security. the president can set a tone for that. he should not try to over law. it won't work. what he can do is set a tone. it is time to start to get back to work and we need to work with governors regionally and to be able to activate certain areas and put protocols in place and to give people comfort. kaitlyn says it best. just because people athe presid to go back to work, they're not going to go back to work. they'll want some level of comfort. >> senator santorum.

thank you. we'll see how this sorts out in the days ahead. senator, i really appreciate your insight. a new warning that the drug that the president often talks about or at least one of his relatives, chloroquine. veterans, how can one phone call save you $2000 a year?

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a new study warns against

using high doses of chloroquine to treat coronavirus. president trump quoting it is as game changer for covid-19. sanjay this is a study in brazil that was called up abruptly. what they were seeing were scary. >> it was. i should preface by saying it is a small study and it did not and was not randomized and did not have a placebo control to this. it was so early and small. there is a lot of studies out there because of all the interests in hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. some studies showed benefits but this one did not show benefits. this one did show benefits and did show some harm with high

doses. 81 people divided into two groups. one group got a lower dose and one got a higher dose which is 600 milligrams, twice a day for ten days. what they found there were patients who died. there were also people who developed these heart problems. the problem with these small studies is we don't know for certain that the medication caused those deaths. there has been this link to heart problems. that's why you have to do larger studies on this. certain doses of this medication may be too toxic. we don't know of the right dose if there is a right dose at all. before the weekend, john, in sweden where they have been studying this as well. they given guidance for all the hospitals in sweden to stop giving the hydroxychloroquine because this is their words, they're not seeing any effect so

far in the studies and they also can't rule out serious side effects. small studies, there is going to be a lot of these john. we are waiting for the den forgive stu definitive studies here to see if it has any effects at all. >> thank you, sanjay gupta. >> president trump says testing everyone is not necessary. according to john's hopkins, 2.8 million americans have been tested. we have 323 million people. public health experts say kak tracing is imperative to understanding the virus and how it may spread. here is what the cdc director said this morning. >> the things that need to happen for the reopening is that what's happening with the numbers of new cases, we got to

substantial our capacity to do early case of identifications and isolation and contact tracing. >> with me now is the chief medical department of health and is working with the state of massachusetts to ramp up contract tracing. >> i want to get into how this works just so you can lay it out. it may be coming to their lives in the near future. let me start with the infrastructure. 2.8 million americans have been tested for coronavirus. is the infrastructure in place both manpower and technology and whatever else you would need to have contact tracing at the level you believe it would be effective and helpful? >> it is not in place yet but we are in the process of building

it and scaling it. >> thank you so much for having us on. partners and health have been talking about the need of thr basic public health approach of testing and contract tracing and isolation for months now. we have been supporting countries all over the world to get in this early of this preventive approach. people are focusing on the hospitalization which is very important but part of comprehensive public health approaches demand treatments as well as care and prevention. and so the infrastructures are there and every state to do contact tracing. they are out manned and out numbered by the scale of this epidemic. we have stepped into really expand the ability of the state of massachusetts to trace every contact. >> so walk me through so people

understand how this would work and i am going to give you a personal example. my youngest brother lives where you are in massachusetts. he has tested positive. he is recovering and doing okay. he said it was the nastiest thing he had to deal with. walk through how it works if you are contact tracing him. >> if a person is positive, normally public health demands that we do first a case investigation so we would call your brother and say you have been tested positive, hopefully he's already called by a clinician or the testing center and we'll investigate who have his close contacts been within the time he's been symptomatic and two days before that. assuming that he may have been before developing symptoms are also able to transmit the virus. we would enumerate those contacts. some of them would be people of

his family or a running buddy or one may have been maybe he was driving a friend to the grocery store. a contact would be anyone within six feet of more than the period he's been ill or the two days prior to them. the second is that information go to a contact tracing team that would call each and every one of those people that meets that definition of a contact within that 6-foot radius. you have been in contact of someone of covid. these are the things you need to know. one, are you okay? are you feeling okay? and if not connecting people rapidly to care, testing. second, are you able to quarantine yourself until we figure out if you have covid or not. if not we would refer that person into social support.

so that's the third piece of the strategy is really assuring that there is enough social support for people that may be food or may be housing or sanitation so that people can properly ice isolate and not spread the disease within families or close circles. all epidemics are quite locals. we have to address those local contacts to stop transmission of this virus. what we have been certain all of the world that a lot of the focus at the top of the pyramid would need a ventilator. the bottom of 80% are people spreading this with mild symptoms or before they develop symptoms and there are little being done to control community

spread. if we want to not only flatten the curve which we are doing through social isolation but shrink the curve and making fewer infection, we have to do contact tracing and isolation. >> i wish you the best of luck. dr. mukherjee thank you for your time. >> coming up. deadly tornados ripped through the southeast, the severe weather threat is not over yet.

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reports up to 50 tornados. louisiana, the governor declared a state of emergency over the quote "devastating damage." we'll tour the i mpacted area this afternoon. more than 900,000 people are without power. the threat of these storms are not over yet. chad myers is joining me now. in the middle of the pandemic seeing people go through this rips your heart out. >> right. >> noi thew their houses are destroyed, where do they go to stay away from people. are there hotels opened? so here is what happens. we talked about it yesterday, it started in texas and moves to louisiana and got violent in mississippi. there were mississippi tornados in the e-4 or greater

categories. these are big tornados. they move into carolina and up the east coast. this is not done. eventhough this line caused all the problem have now moved offshore. jacksonville beach, we have another area up here under the coldest air aloft that'll rotate again today. a brand new tornado watch is in effect from d.c. to baltimore and philadelphia and not quite to new york but close enough. i am seeing some big storms around bail city south of washington, d.c. and baltimore and they are still developing at this hour. this is what 1:30 will look like close to where we are now. maybe an hour adhead. upstate into pennsylvania and into new jersey, by 3:30 eastern daylight time. storms into massachusetts and rhode island. not everyone single one will rotate but every single storm will have a potential of making

a 70 miles per hour or greater wind gusts. you see the storms going through new york city some where around 5:00 tonight. this was a brutal set of circumstances, moisture from the gulf of mexico, we had cold air coming in. we'll have wind gusts at 48 million people in wind warnings with wind gusts over 75 to 77. i would say 77 miles per hour would be the maximum today. i know that's not a tornado, it will bring down trees and power lines. that'll get in your way for sure, john. >> for sure. chad myers, appreciate the update there. very sad. the power of that. chad, thanks so much. coming up after the coronavirus crisis, in states like michigan, this pandemic disproportionately affecting african-americans. officials are demanding more data and tests so they can better understand why. with va mortgage rates suddenly

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former president barack obama weighing in a short time ago. he tweeted this. we can't deny race and socio-economic factors are playing a role of who's being hit hard by the virus. reminding our policymakers to keep our most vulnerable communities at the forefront

when making decisions. >> dr. wilson, thank you for being with us on this day. you hear from the former president there. just look at the number in michigan, 14% of the population and your state is african-american. 33% of the cases in michigan are african-american and 40% of the death, it is stunning. i look at this graphic every time and every team you do it just stops you in your track. there are a lot of studies going on and we deal with the diabetes and hyper tension and under line health conditions. what's being done today to help people on the front line of this? a lot of focus have been placed on this under line conditions that existed since the time of medical school and that's a long time ago. nothing has changed.

we have to look at how what we can do to stem this title i would put better communication towards the african-american community. there were a lot of misinformation at the beginning of this crisis where many african-americans thought they could not get the disease. i think people like magic johnson and actor idris elba have done a lot to dispel that myth. i think more testing in the african-american population is necessary. a lot of people had challenges in getting testing and that's not just african-americans. americans have had more of a challenge of getting tested. a lot of testing sites are in

african-american communities and a lot of americans don't have cars to go to these remote sites. more testing among the african-american populations necessary. i think perhaps the most important is that all the states that's coming up on different states and many of them do not support our do not report race specific data so the cdc study that came out, report that came out last week that showed african-americans of excess risk really had about 40% of the hospitalizations at race data. so counties and states have got to do a better job collecting and reporting race specific data because race specific data is important to mitigate the excess damage that's being done to the african-american community.

i hope the federal government put the resources there. the new point of testing is critical there. if you look at the people at the front line, 31% of our bus drivers are african-american. taxi and limousine service, 3% and these are the heroes who are still going to work in the middle of all this. you are saying they don't have the testing resources they need. >> i think that's true. initial mobile testing was you still need a car to get to the site of the drive-thru testing. recently we switched from drive-thru to drive to testing. we are going to the area where

african-americans are represented. homeless shelters and nursing homes. today we are going to a couple of prisons. these are areas where it is difficult for these people to get advocate testing. i think it is important to get more testing done in these populations. these are vulnerable populations. >> i wish you the best. i appreciate your time today dr. m. roy wilson. >> thank you, john. >> astates are determines when t will be ready to reopen the economy. in texas, governor abbott promises this week of an outline. pennsylvania is one of three states banning dealers from selling cars during the crisis. car dealerships say they're not

only losing business but losing to neighborering states. matt stuckey is with us. now we are losing business to our neighbors. >> thank you for having me on, john. >> one quick question for you, what state do you live in? >> i live in the state of maryland. >> there you go. >> folks in pennsylvania have to drive to maryland to buy a car. we are not asking for businesses as usual. we understand this is our fers time for all of this. you hit it in your opening. we are one of the three states in the nation where folks are not allowed to buy a car now. >> let me jump in here. i assume you are willing of

social distance and wearing social mask s to do business. is that your point? >> we can be smart. >> when you appeal to the governor, what's your answer back? >> no, you have to wait. >> it whats nhas not worked and been dysfunctional. we are working through our state legislatures and representatives from both sides of the isle continuing with this situation. we are hoping for a change. it has been over three weeks now. we had multiple customers contacted us trying to buy a car. and we are trying to keep everybody safe. >> matt stuckey, we appreciate your time. we'll watch this ripple effect. we'll keep in touch. appreciate your time and thank you sir. thank you for joining us today.

a busy day, andreas lubierson c picks up our coverage right now. stay safe. i am anderson cooper, this is cnn's special coverage of the coronavirus pandemic. due to distancing and mitigation hot spots like new york and new jersey seem to be leveling off. there is a light at the end of this dark tunnel. the cdc director gave some signs just how long the tunnel is. >> we are nearing the peak right now. i think we'll sometimes hopefully this week we'll be able to say that you know when you are at the peak or when the next day is less than the day before. but clearly the rate we are stabilizing across the country right now in terms of the state of this outbreak. >> still more than 22,000 people have died from covid-19. the number of people infected in the u.s.