>> reporter: look, this is scary to hear, but the key according to every expert is not to panic when it comes to consumers. don't go to the grocery store and hoard auld meat in your freezer. all that will do is accelerate the problems. they're simply trying to sound the alarm before it's too late. >> thanks, diane, and thanks for all of you for joining us. anderson continues the coverage now. good evening, a day that began with the director of the cdc expressing cautious hope, the coronavirus outbreak, well, it ended in a very different play, one that revolves around the president, with more than 23,000 people in this country now dead and many hundreds still dying every single day. we certainly focus on the hope for the ways to slowly get back

to normal, tempered with if the -- but the president today chose yet again to hijack what is supposed to be a briefing from the task force. yet again he hijacked it, this time with a brief -- excuse me, a briefing full of a very public diatribe in yet another attempt in a long line of attempts to rewrite what has widely been reported to be his late and incomplete response to the crisis, in part, which according to numbs number of times, the ban still allowed thousands to enter the -- and then the president called dr. fauci to explain the comments yesterday with jake tap per. here's what dr. fauci said on sunday. >> obviously you could logically say that if you had a process

that was ongoing and you started mitigation earlier, you could have saved lives. i mean, obviously if we had right from the very beginning shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different. >> what he says is clear and is just a fact. he isn't attacking the president or the administration, it's just a fact. here's fauci today when he was called up by the president. >> i had an interview yesterday, i was asked a hypothetical question, and hypothetical questions sometimes can get you into some difficulty, because it's what would have or could have. the nature of the hypothetical question was, if in fact we had mitigated earlier, could lives have been saved? the answer to my question was, as i always do, and i'm doing now, said yes. that was taken as maybe there was some fault here. the first and only time that dr.

birx and i went in and made a formal recommendation to the president to actually have a, quote, shutdown in the sense of not really shutdown, but to really have strong mitigation, we discussed it. obviously there would be concern by some that in fact that might have some negative donconsequen. nonetheless, the president listened to the recommendation and went to the mitigation. the next second time i went with dr. birx into the president and said 15 days are not enough, we need to go 30 days, obviously there were people who had a problem with that because of the potential secondary effects. nonetheless, at that time the president went with the health recommendations. and we extended it another 30 days. so fauci stood by what he had said on sunday to jake tapper, but made sure to point out he wasn't criticizing the

president and pointed out that the times he was actually asked to meet with the president, make a direct recommendation, the president backed his recommendations. you may ask why fauci wasn't invited in earlier? nevertheless are nevertheless, the president went on then from there to launch a series of attacks on the press, including the reporters in the "new york times" on the warnings that went unheeded. maggie haberman joins us shortly. i get you could call it a campaign-style video. it had the earmarks of propaganda video. we won't show it to you. it's clearly designed to tout his administration's response and rewrite history of it. he followed that with more complaints about the coverage, including the times story. again said if he had acted three months sooner, is how he put it,

quote, i would have been criticized for being too early. this is eastern is what he did say about the outbreak and how it evolved over time. take a look. >> by april, you know, in theory when it gets warmer, it miraculously goes away. the coronavirus, which is, you know, very well under control in our country, we have very few people with it. the people are getting better. they're all getting better. >> we're very close to a vaccine. >> we're going down, not up. substantially down, not up. >> of the original 15 people, as i call them, eight have returned to their homes to stay in their homes until fully recovered. again, when you have 15 people and the 15 within a couple days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done. >> it's going to disappear. one day like a miracle it will

disappear and from our shores, it could get we before it gets better. maybe it will go away. nobody really knows. >> anybody who needs a test, they can get a test, and the tests are beautiful. as of right now and yesterday, anybody that needs a test -- that's the important thing. the tests are all perfect, like the letter was perfect. the transcription was perfect, right? this was not as perfect as that, but pretty good. >> it will go away. just stay calm. it will go away. with that on the table, and because the president has so much more to say, i want to go to jim acosta. i'm not even sure where to begin with the briefings. there was a propaganda video touting the president's response, or the campaign-style video. i would first like to hear your thoughts, in terms of all the statements, stunning statements the president has made over

time, how this ranks, just overall, what did you think? >> reporter: anderson, i think this was a total meltdown the president had in that briefings earlier today. i have not seen him that off the rails since the days much charlottesville, when clearly that was a failure of leadership, and to some extent he is back pedaling, because he knows the same kind of scrutiny is on him now. he responded angrily because of these stories coming out over the last 48 hours, calling into questions his actions as this pandemic was building up, and gaining momentum. one thing we should point out about the video, which looked straight out of the beijing or pyongyang, there were white house officials working on that video this afternoon. that campaign-style video, propaganda or whatever you call it, was paid for by your tax dollars, but the white house put it out there to respond to the

criticism coupleding in the last few days, and the president was asked during the briefing whether or not he let too much time pass as he was offering these rosy projections, and here's what he had to say. >> reporter: what did you do with the time you -- >> you know what we did? what do you do when you have no case in the whole united states. >> reporter: you had cases. >> excuse me. you reported it. zero cases, zero deaths on january 17th. >> reporter: there's a complete gap. what does your administration do in february during the time from the travel ban went into effect. >> a lot. in fact, part of it was up there. we did a lot. look, look, you know you're a fake. you know that, your whole network, the way you cover it is fake. not all of you, but the people are wise to you. that's why you have a lower approval ratingthene ever before times probably three.

>> reporter: that was a reporter from cbs news, who is a good reporter. >> he goes to approval numbers, like that's a metric that matters when so many people are dying, and he's the president. the fact he focuses on his ratings is pathetic. it is fascinating, a lot of emdeemiologists and others have talked about this lost month of february. the comments she was making and the direction she was going in, okay, you bought time with this alleged travel ban, wasn't really a ban, tens of thousands of people came in a flights, but you allegedly bought some time. what did you do with that time in the month of february? he couldn't answer it. that was a lost month, because he was holding meetings with diamond and silk if that's what they're called, and talking about the magical disappearances in april.

>> reporter: that's right, anderson. keep in mind the president was trying to defend the actions he took during that lost period, but his words are also important. keep in mind, anderson, you know this all too well. half hof the country is followig his words. when the president of the united states is saying it's going to go away like a miracle, like the seasonal flu, and he's in an echo chamber with other conservative media, and this misinformation is reverberating back and forth, that obviously will influence policymakers in states where those kinds of decisions are critical. that's something that the president is trying to erase from everybody's memories, but propaganda videos, temper tantrums in the briefing room just won't do that. the president was also asked about dr. fauci. let's just play this.

>> reporter: why did you -- >> i retweeted somebody. >> did you notice that when you retweeted it? >> i notice everything. >> you're on the same page? >> i have been from the beginning. i don't know what it is exactly. if i put somebody's opinion -- i don't mind controversy. controversy is a good thing, not a bad thing. >> so the idea that he just, you know, retweeted somebody who says to fire his top scientist, he was aware of it but it didn't mean anything, about you he went ahead and did it, i would think a presidential use of time is more valuable than searching i don't think line for tweets, like to fire the scientist if that's not what you in fact believe or at least warn the scientist -- >> reporter: i pressed the president on this and whether or

not he will tell his conservative allies to stop bashing dr. fauchi. he declined to take that opportunity. he wants officials to be like cats on a hot tin roof, but one of the reasons people have responded so positively to him, he has the credibility that so many public officials right now just don't have. keep in mind this is a public health official praised by former at the present time george h.w. bush, bush senior, as a hero. so this is somebody who has a track record that's been trusted officer the last couple of decades, because he's been praised by both republicans and democrats. it was a sad sight to behohn to see dr. fauci fall on the sword during that briefing, but you

again the extent that dr. fauci and driven birx have to placate the president in these roles. if not, the wheels could come off the response from this administration. >> thanks, jim acosta. i want to bring in maggy habiterman, dana bash and dr. sanjay gupta. maggie, what have you ahead about the briefing? 2 seems like it was link to do your reporting. >> a little bit. he's very upset about that story. he's made clear for 24 hours he's very upset. it was an accurate story. we stand by the reporting. i'm candidly as disappointed for dr. fauci. jake tapper's question was clearly about our social and the gap when social distancing measures were put in place in

march. that does not help his credibility. in terms of the president, he is going to be judged on how he handles this virus. that would be his legacy and it will be this election. he would rather have a fight with the media, you saw it today. unfortunately it would work with a lot of folks. >> of course. can you lay out your reporting about the warnings to the president, what he knew and when? i thought that fauci, you know, kind of public walkback was interesting. what he said was factually correct. >> sure. >> but he said the first time he was called in by the president to directly give a recommendation, the president went with it, but that was the mid-march social distancing recommendation. i was surprised he hadn't -- i don't know if it's true, but he's indicated that he hadn't been called in earlier to give direct recommendations to the president. >> look, that's our reporting as well. he had made some recommendations that were not in a formal

setting. my understanding is that that presentation was very brief. the president had already made up his mind, but what was described in the story and there were six of us on that story. we worked on it a long time. there was a group called the red dawn group, that were very focused on this virus in january, wanted to take more extreme measures, that the president did do this travel ban, and it was a limited ban with china. he did it at the end of january, and he basically treated that as a mission accomplished moment. he did speak to alex azar, according to our recording, on january 3rd. he said he wanted to be critical of china. the president told him to stop panicking, and he didn't want him going on at the television. there was a memo from peter navarro that we understand that

the president was not shown, but was aware of. and then you basically have the month of february where not a whole lot happened. the president went to the india, went to the west coast. the irony here, anderson, is the video he showed tonight, his timeline showed that, which is what he was being asked -- where's february? it's not going to go away because he yells at reporters. >> which is why he got so mad at the cbs reporter. she pointed out in his own video they couldn't come up with stuff from february. >> literally nothing. he turns the task force over to mike pence at the end of february, and mike pence and his folks took several days to get their bearings, and then jared kushner came in and the rest is history. >> it's like your own video has failed, because you didn't realize you had nothing from february, so you attacked the

reporter who smartly has pointed that out. kaitlan collins was in the room. she joins us now. what was it like? jim acosta was saying it was one of the most more unhinged things he's seen from this president? >> reporter: we had a feeling when he came in and saw the video screens being set up and the president had a video to watch. he smirked, looking at reporters while that video was playing, of course that video didn't include the president's own comments during that time period when he was repeatedly downplaying the threat of the virus, which he continued to do. he even in march repeated he believed the media was inflaming the risk, and that the risk to the population was low. so the president was downplaying it. the questions remain are not only about maggie's great reporting about the steps they didn't take, but what kind of

decisions that led governors to make. the governor in florida said his thinking was influenced by the president, and that briefing we remember with the very grave tone, that's what desantis caused him to issue the stay-at-home order. the president said he believes he has total authority as president of the united states over these states' decisions. of course that comes to this topic of whether or not they're going to open up the country and how they're going to do that. many states have said they're going to make their own decisions based on the data they have. you've seen states on the west coast and east coast deciding to work together. i asked the president who it was that told him he had the total authority over that. i don't know any republican governors who would agreed to that. i don't believe vice president pence would have agreed what president obama had authority over hi state when he was governor. the president didn't answer. he said he would provide a legal

briefing, but it shows you how he's thinking and reviewing it. >> kaitlan, as you point out, one of the ironies of his alleged belief is just i think it was last week when he was trying to explain was he wasn't trying to force all governors to have a nationwide and statewide state at-home orders is he knowing the constitution better than anybody, he's a federalist, and wants to leave it up to the states, because that's his understanding of the constitution. i want to explain one of the exchanges you had with the president today. >> reporter: a quick question. you said when someone is president of the united states, their authority is total. that is not true. who told you that? >> you know what we're going to do? we're going to write up papers on this. it's not going to be necessary, because the governors need us one way or the other. ultimately it comes with the federal government. that being said we're getting

along well with the governors, and i feel certainly there won't be a problem. please go ahead. >> reporter: has any governor agreed that you have the authority to -- >> i haven't asked anybody. you know why? i don't have to. >> reporter: who told you the president has total authority? >> enough. it sort of indicates he has things they need and that may be part of the convincing process. >> reporter: we can talk about the legal authority and what legal scholars will say about this all day long. we pretty much know the answer, but anderson, it goes with what the president has been saying. he repeatedly deferred to governors, that not only about the stay-at-home orders, but also about supplies. the president repeatedly said they were only there to back the states up. we've been drawing this line for some time now, so of course the question is, you know, if it it

comes down to this, and this could be a real situation where the president is recommending one thing and governors do not take the president guidelines. that going said we have heard from governors they do want guidance from the federal government on what to do. they're just saying they don't have the authority to decide whether a certain business in alabama or whatnot will open back up. >> dana, i want to get your reaction to that briefings. first, before we start, you were talking to maggie about the often, that the president was ticked off about the reporting that the "new york times" did over the weekend, now to mention the interview that jake tapper did with dr. fauci. that was clear with the phone calls the president was having on easter sunday. i spoke to someone who is familiar with the president's phone calls, who described him as cranky, curt and not happy,

and exclusively talking about the idea of the presses out to get him. they're blaming him for things that happened in the past, and of that feeling was born that crazy propaganda video and the lashing out that you saw in the press conference that none of us has seen anything like. that says a lot 1/2 tru-- in th trump era. and we've talking about whether the president has the authority to do what governors may or may not want him to do. if you play it out -- let's just say andrew couomo says, i don't want the school to reopen, and the president said i'm going to do it. let's say he gets approval by a court to do that. what happens if people get sick and everything goes back to where it was? does he really want that?

especially for any president, but especially a president heading to reelection, that he will own that decision in a way he's not want to do do before? i think there was a lot of bravado and not a lot of reality when he stops to think about it and whether his advisers remind him of that. you mean, what he said is actually not what he's going to do? wow. >> i know, i know, pick your jaw up off the ground. i know. sanjay, let's talk about where things stand with the virus. is this week a turning point of some sort? >> i think so. it's a significant week. as the message that a lot of people are hearing in some of these hot spots, the numbers are starting to plateau. it's obviously a good thing, but it might give the sense to people, you know, that we're sort of out of the woods on this, and we're not. you know, the numbers in terms

of people who may still be tremendously affected by this will continue to grow. but one of the things i want to point out, it's very interesting -- when you listen to what we knew when. i was reading maggies's reporting over the weekend and you want to put a public health timeline on top of her reporting. let me prepaface, that's concerning, a new environment spreading. that always raises antennas. was it going to be like sars? was it going to be like h1n1? or was it going to be something worse? by the end of january when president trump put that travel

ban in place, which you know, probably had significant benefit to it. at that same briefing, anderson, dr. fauci said we have some evidence that there's asymptomatic transmission of this virus. that is huge. that wass ethe end of january. in february i interviewed dr. redfield and he confirmed that. by february 13th, we knew there was clearly asymptomatic transmission, which changed this. by february 26th, we knew it was circulating in the community. important points -- a level of concern -- this is nuanced. the level of concern wasn't the same every step of the way. it grew as we gained more information, but there was significant information by the end of january of asymptomatic

spread. the entire scientific mu said, whoa. this is different. if it's that lethal and can spread asymptomatically, we have to do something about it. on march 16th, when we had the 15-day pause that was a month and a half after that significant information came out. >> thank you, maggy, kale lan, dana bash, and sanjay. thank you. coming up, david axelrod and jul julia keim will join us. life isn't a straight line. and sometimes, you can find yourself heading in a new direction. but when you're with fidelity, a partner who makes sure every step is clear,

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>> reporter: your authority is total? >> it's total. it's total. the governors know that. you have a couple bands of -- excuse me. >> reporter: could you radio he send that order? >> you have a couple bands of governors, they will be -- but the authority of the president of the united states having to do with the subject we're talking about is total. he's repeatedly said that's up to the state to determine whether he has the pouter to lift. he also said it's up to the states to seek out ventilators and supplies, and the federal government is only a backup. joining me is julia kayem, and david axelrod. is the president's power total? >> it was not. he wasn'ted to defend the seven

governors who didn't impose stay-at-home orders, that he didn't feel it was his role, and he studied the constitution. minutes before he said that, he said the governors chose not to get ventilators. they should have gotten ventilators. basically it was their responsibility, that they needed to take care of themselves in a global pandemic. so, you know, the mixed messages were kind of -- even by trumpian standards, it was really something today. it was clear he was very motivated to try and rebut -- he was steamed up about what was written about what hasn't been done. >> the times story which clearly set him off. he said the story in the numbs number of times is totally fake, and it's a fake newspapers, and

he then played a video. part of this may have been set off. also you had governor cuomo and a number of other governors from eastern states holding a press conference, talking about their plans, instituting plans. >> right. >> the president made the threat to states who don't open, saying, quote, he calls the shots and essential he has stuff they're going to need. what do you make of the president's approach on this? >> it's a unique one. in holes we tend to talk about unity of effort between local, state and federal government, under the belief that we have a common goal of saving american lives. i have come to believe and the governors and mayors and university presidents and everyone else have come to believe that the president has run out of tricks. he basically his anger is because he failed to exert authority when he had it in trying to stop the pandemic, now is pretending to have authority when he doesn't. we have to deal with the crisis

with the president we have, not the one we deserve, so you're seeing the governors in particular fill the vacuum. you saw the regent efforts on both the east coast and west coast to figure out a way to open up again responsibly. that's the only standard. what is the president going to do? force me out of my horse? the absurdity is such an insult to the first responders, the health and medical workers, who are simply trying to save lives right now. david -- yeah, go ahead. >> i want to say one of the i n ironies is this, the governors on the west coast who didn't wait for the president's guidance -- >> yeah. >> who acted on their own and acted quickly. they were able to blunt some of the worst edge of this still serious problem out there, but not what it might have been, because they acted when the president didn't act.

now he's saying i'm going to tell them when they can stop doing it, whether they have to stop doing it. it's completely absurd. the other thing is that, you know, we should point out that the whole point of the travel restrictions he put in was to buy time, so that steps could be taken to deal with what was inevitable, which was going to be an outbreak here in this dun, to get the ventilators going, to get the flow of materials to the states that would need them, and that process really began in mid march when the president finally acknowledged, no, this isn't under control, we're at war. >> jewulia, the idea of buying time, where that month was squandered, clearly his attitude was different from what his epidemiologists, scientists were pointing out. >> that's exactly right.

i think the "new york times" story is so damning in so many ways, not simply because of what the president failed to do, but the president's role was also to guide all of us. i think about the things like the shock that all of us experienced who were not expecting the shutdowns, because all of a sudden there's no pandemic and then there's a pandemic because the president had been denying it. i think about things like new orleans still having the mardi gras in february, which is probably the hot spot we have, with no knowledge by the local leaders about what was going on in the white house. so no knowledge maybe they shouldn't have had it. it's that kind of leadership role that the president, by denying this was coming, denied us, right? in other words us being prepared, being ready for what was about to happen, getting the kits ready, and leaders communicating about what was likely to happen, which was we

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as reported earlier, the president was adamant that he and only he has authority to lift the orders. he said his authority is total. this came after news broke that the governors in the east and west have decided to form

regional pacts on how to get the economy in their tights moving again. joining mess is governor mike dewine. thank you for being with us. obviously many governors would like guidance from the president and the administration, when you hear the president saying it's absolutely up to him, what do you think? >> well, anderson, first of all, we've had good relationship with the white house. when i've asked them to do things that we really needed in ohio, they did it. for example, two weeks ago i called the president on a sunday morning and said the fda is just not moving fast enough in regard to patel labs in columbus. they have a machine and process where they can sterilize these masks, 80,000 a day. they sped it up. he called the fda, they got moving on it. we had it done by that night. i think, you know, i heard the

president, i heard you just play it back on tv, but look, the president of the united states, any president has a big bully pulpit, a big megaphone. i think he'll be influential, just like when he told people to stay home. that's what he's talking about. what we're trying to do in ohio, and we were working on it today and all we'rend is come up with a plan to get ohioans back to work and moving down the pathway to get or economy built up. what we are putting together is a plan that will work, we hope, work for our state. >> but you are putting together that plan. i know you said the president has a big bully pulpit. this one certainly does, as all presidents do, but in the end, if you are asked who is making the decision about ohio and what's good for ohio, it's you,

yes? s. >> well, i have to make the decision. that's my responsibility, but we're certainly going to consult with the white house. i think what sometimes is missed is how much flow back and forth between the governors and the white house. i was on the phone today for an hour and a half with other governors, with the vice president. we do that two or three times a week. it's a very candid exchange of ideas, here's what we need, here's what is going on. i think sometimes that's obviously not public, but i think sometimes people miss that there's that much give-and-take going back and forth with this white house, democrats and republican governors. >> certainly the way it should be. it's certainly good to hear that does exist. just the way the president is presenting it does make it sound -- it's he has presidential authority under the constitution to determine what all states do, and that's just

not the case, from my limited united states of things. >> ultimately the buck stops with me and stops with the other governors, but again i understand what the president is saying. i mean, he aspirationally wants to get us back to work and frustrated. i'm frustrated. the people of ohio are frustrated. i don't blame the president for describing it that way. certainly we will work with the president. one of the things we really, really need is testing. if you talk about a pathway to get us back, testing -- ample testing is the way we get back and get our people working again. that's a huge challenge. >> testing and contact tracing, things like that, is that something you in the state are set up for already?

or is this a time when you're looking to get all of that in place? some states are talking about needing to hire a lot of people to do real contact tracing. is that something you're looking into? >> well, we're in the process of getting people. i don't think that's as big a problem as actually making sure you have the capacity on the testing. this is changing. you know, for example, the testing of the blood which enables you to tell whether that person has had the virus and whether or not you would at least think they would have immunity, a lot of different companies are on the market today. one of the things i had to tell ohioans and businesses today in our daily press conferences, please be careful. it may not work. so these are the things we have to work our way through, and it's -- it's not going to be easy. >> governor dewine, i appreciate talking with you. thank you very much. >> thanks.

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we spoke hope at the top of the program. here's another piece of it. a new projection projecting coronavirus zero deaths, none after june 21st.

as you might imagine, that he headline is stirring questions. the chair of health metric sciences, institute for health metrics and examination. dr. murray, we talked to you about a lot of the different modeling you've been having. it was in the 80,000 by august when we first started talking to you. i think last week it was down around 61 or so thousand. can you explain your newest model, how it gets to the conclusion of no deaths, no new deaths after june 21st. >> so we get to know deaths by the middle of june on the same basis we've been saying that since two, three weeks ago. that's what happens if everybody stays the course on the closures right through to the end of may. we're right now having a national discussion about rolling opening. if that does start to happen, then we will, of course, have to change our forecasts. the risk of resurgence is really

large in some states. >> a number of experts have pushed back on the notion of no new deaths after that day. professor of epidemiology at harvard says there's no way that amount of control happens like that. >> the one thing we absolutely know for sure. social distancing measures work. it leads to a situation where every case is infecting less than one other case. that means, if you keep the course, you'll get transmission ee slenssentially down to zero. we're seeing that happen live in italy, we saw it in china. no reason it wouldn't work here. the real question is what's the way to decrease the risk or resurgence if we don't stay the course? >> is it -- i assume your model is based on the idea that somebody who has been infected cannot get infected again. i know that's sort of a working assumption of dr. fauci and others, but is that something

that has been proven definitively at this point? >> yeah. these reports that are coming out that have people concerned about the virus -- a little different than being infected again. just to be clear, in our model, we're not assuming that there's a lot of people who become immune to the virus. in fact, we think that because of the closures, we will end up getting to june with only 5% of the country infected. the reason we can get to zero is not because immunity, it's because we've put the brakes on transmission through social distancing. >> but if the breaks on transmission go through the end of may -- brakes on transmission go through the end of may, if things open in june, isn't it possible for more transitions to occur in june? >> the way we're trying to study this and we're going to be putting out some more information midweek is to say

the following question, which is when would it be reasonably safe to open up by state? and reasonably safe means a rile small number of cases left in the community. there have to be some capability of the state to do contact tracing and quarantine. if you have five or ten cases in the state left, that should be manageable. if you have 100 or 1,000, that's going to be a very risky situation for that state. of course, there's the whole issue of poureder control. like -- border control. how do you stop infections coming from states that are later in the process or from other countries. >> that's obviously with rolling efforts state by state, changing as you said from other countries, it's fascinating. let hope that it's accurate. dr. chris murray. we'll continue to check in with you on the models as they shift. we'll be right back.

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we'll end the program with focusing on health care workers as we do many nights. the white house task force briefing went longer than expected. tomorrow night we'll bring a nurse's remarkable account of what she faces. the news continues right now. i want to hand things over to chris for cuomo prime time. >>. how are you doing? >> i'm doing better than i deserve. hope you had aid good weekend and welcome to everybody here in the new age of rebirth and renewal. i am chris cuomo and welcome to prime time. the president can try to rewrite history and cover up and do what he does best, which is cover his own flame. but all americans want to know, all we must demand to know is how the hell is he going to get us out of this. saying time to reopen is not

enough when 23,000 lay dead. more than half a million of us are sick. you know i have it. i'm fighting through it. most of us are fighting through it. but how can we expect it to go through this again? how can we be expected to do that? well, that's what they're telling us. if you're going to reopen and you don't have a plan to track cases and keep a safe -- you are damning us to repeat our own ruin. that's a fact. it's the top question that governors from coast to coast are demanding an answer to. because the president says keeping us safe is on them. they tell you. one after the other, as you'll hear tonight, they can't do it. so if trump says he has total authority to decide what happens, but he doesn't have total commitment to making sure