that does not leave you a lot of wiggle room. you will start to phase the opening. your point nine of the entire close do you know if you go to .2. you will have a problem again. so you see how narrow the window is. but, new york pause has closed. that's how we control tled the beast and got it down to .9. we are not there yet. wuhan got down to .3. we have to continue what we are doing. i would like to see that infection rate get down even more. new york's close down policy will be implemented until may 15th. i don't want to project beyond that period. that's about one month. one month is a long time.

people need certainty of clarity so they can plan. i need cord maordinated action with the states. one month will continue to close down policies. what happens after then? i don't know. we'll see depending on what the data shows. what does it mean? tell us what our infection spread is. is it .9, is it .7? tell me what the hospitalizations rate is and the experts will tell us the best course of conduct based on that data. no political decisions. no motiemotional decisions. data and science we are talking about, human lives here. as relatively simple and possibility annoying as it

seems, wearing a mask is one of the best things that we can do. and i understand i am getting a lot of not happy phone calls off what i said yesterday about wearing a mask in public, but i am sorry if it makes people unhappy. i do not consider a major burden and it really is a simple measure that can save lives. yes, people say it is a personal intrusion on them. again, it is not just about you, right? i have rights also. my kids have rights. your kids have rights. and, you have a right for another person to take responsible safe guards to not get infected. the masks work. we said in public today, i am

going to include public transportation systems, private transportation carriers for higher vehicles and any operator of a public system and operator of a private carrier and for higher vehicles must all wear a mask at all times. what does it mean? if you get on a bus, you need to wear a mask. if you get in a train, you need to wear a mask. if you get into a private car server, uber or liyft, the operator needs to wear a mask. a private bus, the operator needs to wear a mask and you need to wear a mask on a private carrier. so, is this inconvenient? yes. but you are in a closed environment by definition and you are not socially distancing by definition. you are the front seat of the car to the backseat of the car. you are one seat in a bus to

another seat in a bus. this is a precaution for everyone that i think balances individual liberties with a social constant. this is in effect by 8:00 p.m. it is not about government or anything else. it is about what people decide to do and what people have decided to do. they have to brought this infection rate down. it is that simple. nurses and doctors did a phenomenal job and essential workers did a phenomenal job. that rate came down because people changed their behavior. that's what happened. it is about the behavior of our

people. it is how we educate our children and how we are of others. what we are willing to do to save ours and others health in our community. that's what makes all the difference in what we are doing. and it is the simple things. it is wearing a mask and washing your hands. it is the hand sanitizer and social distance and making sure your children understand what to do and whatnot to do. it is all of these simple procedures that is almost in g significance but on a collective basis making the best for the world. i am going to get out the house, i need to do this and this. i know, be smart and engage what

you are doing relative to everyone else and relative to the overall goal. but, i will tell you and i don't know about people truly really appreciate this. i don't know if i did. of all the unique aspects that we have learned going through this, the most positive and most surprising to me has been how people responded. the policies that i have communicated are not worth the paper they are printed on. i can stand up here as governor and say we must do this and we must do this, these are some of the most life-changing policies government has ever issued. think about it. this is not government saying here is your task rate and here is age of voting. this is the government saying

stay in your house, don't touch another person. wear a mask. i don't even have the ability to enforce these measures on any scale if people said i am not willing to do it. so, these policies which are difficult and life-changing, they are being implemented by people because people are choosing to do the right thing. it is that simple. what this is all about today, the masks on transportations. i trust in new yorkers. you know i believe if the facts are presented to the people of this state, new yorkers will do the right thing. what's the right thing? there is always a right thing.

it is the appropriate task that's socially and immorally correct and new yorkers have a very strong right thing quotient. they know what the right thing is. all i am trying to do is give them the facts and information to explain why i am suggesting these actions. they decide whether or not to follow them. i can't put a mask on 17 million people. 17 million people will decide whether or not they'll do it. they have done it. because they have the facts and they have the information and they understand the risks and they understand the rewards and they understand the consequences and what they have done worked and it will bring this nation forward. that's new yorkers at their best. that's because we are new york tough. new york tough is more complex

than words suggest. it is smart and united and disciplined and loving. new yorkers have proourch that. time and time again everyday for 46 days. >> questions? let's not have people talk over everyone. i will make sure we answer and i will get to you to answer your questions and let's start with jesse. >> at least ten nursing home residents have died from covid-19 and 15 residents at the windsor living facility, how many nursing homes have reported outbreaks and where are they? is the state advisiing nursing

homes to transfer patients elsewhere. >> okay, i don't know -- we have hundreds and hundreds of nursing homes in the state. i don't know what's happening with every nursing home in the state. i don't have firsthand knowledge of what happened with the nursing home in new york. we'll get you today list of information by nursing home to the best we have and as we get that updated, we'll get it to you. jesse? >> on the economic toll of this, mayor de blasio talked about $7 billion in terms of tax revenue. have you discussed with the health of new york and 1.2 million people are napplyin for unemployment in the state. >> yes, it is simple. it is every county in the state

and every local government in the state. and the short answer is we can't do it. i have 10 or $15 billion hold. i am not in any position to help any of them. that's why i said this is where the federal has government has step in. the federal government is going to say we passed major pieces of legislation, pat us on the back to protect the economy and move the economy forward. but you don't fund states and local government? it means state and local government has to turn around and cut everybody that relies on them. it is not smart. it is not right, it is counter productive. i understand you don't get the same political credit when you fund new york state and new york city or national county or

suffix county because it does not represent any voters or any people. it is a government. i get that. i get that politically. they like to pass legislations where they can call up someone when they get home and say hey jesse i got a check for you. i understand that, at one point you have to put politics aside and say we have to do something to actually make a difference. can you pretend you are addre addressing this crisis when you are starving the state and government. that's not democrats to republicans. national association headed to a chairman who's a republican, governor hogan, great guy and great governor. we sent a letter to the legislation. i say it to my democratic members, i said to senator

schumer and senator gillibrand, you passed a piece of legislation that starves states and local government. you are not helping the country. you are just not. and well, we have to get to yes. it does no matter to get to yes if the bill does not do what the purpose is. bernadette. >> why has it taken so long to get information about nursing homes? >> we are putting it together. >> we are putting it in practical reality here. you have hospitals who are dealing with hell everyday and you are saying make sure your report is not late. that's what the department of health says.

make sure your report is on time. look, i have been on the phone with niethese types of faciliti. they say i understand, make sure my report is on time. i have people critically ill. i am short staff and i don't have enough ppe. you are giving me a hard time about reports. in the balance of things, i understand the degree of difficulty. how many nursing homes are there? 613 nursing homes so you are not talking about one phone call. we are getting the data. it is coming in. when will we have it? do we know? today. >> we had the highest number of positive cases since testing started. are you concerned of those numbe

numbers? >> testing is not indicative of anything in my opinion. it is not as ransom sample. it is a function of how many tests you were doing. the more tests you do the more positives you will find. testings are not random. people who believe they are positive as they are exposed. you are getting people who you think are positive and more testing you take, the more positives you are going to find. the hospitalization rate of any of these rates, the most indicative is the hospitalization rate. what is telling you that these are the people who are infected and were seriously ill. that's what the hospitalization

rate tells you. it does not tell you the rate of infection spread and whether it is increasing or decreasing. it tells you how many people walked into the hospital who were positive after they were tested. that's the only number you have that statistically represented. >> president trump accused of new york city patting the numbers because they changed the way they're reporting. they're saying they added something like 3800 new deaths based on in-home deaths. what do you say to that? do you think the president is correct in saying that and when is the state going to start having that separate category? >> yes. melissa knows this better than i do. what you are seeing is -- i

don't know what the president says and his words and why would new york city want to inflate the death toll. bad enough as it is. look -- i don't know, it is more bizarre than usual than anyone would want to do that. the changing -- the cdc put out different guidelines about what number you must report. we have always said all we really know are deaths in hospitals and nursing homes. could people be dying at home because of the coronavirus and we are not counting it? yes. was it a rough estimate? yes. it is more of a reporting

process. melissa, do you want to add more? >> the cdc put out guidings on reporting so it is the president's own cdc that put out the guidance. the city was very clear. they did not tackle on that number. they created a new category that's called probable deaths. it gets murky because a lot of people are dying of various things. if it is shortness of breath or fever, there is a lot of assumptions going on behind the positive. the number is not precise, the city did not put that number into that death count number. so that's what it was. they have not had the numbers. this is the cdc directed

category. >> the presumed test of somebody dying to respiratory illness as opposed to covid-19. >> law enforcement were getting the raw data, hey that could be potentially a larger number. is that misreporting. >> i am saying conflating. there are possible death. they confirmed after they died that they had covid. probable is a category. if somebody dies based on symptoms, they believe it could have been kcovid. to answer your first question the city have not had the number. they created a separate category to address the probable deaths

which is directed to the cdc. >> i don't think the city pdc pe numbers together. >> now there is a shortage of dialysis -- >> shortage of dialysis machines? >> we have heard that. we are looking into that. and regarding having kidney failure as a result of having coronavirus, even when people get that ill and end up in the intensive care, multiple problems, kidneys are one of the arguments which takes the hardest hit in this one.

we have heard about individuals but there are surges that are and everyone need dialysis machines. we are working on that. >> if they have a shortage, they'll call us. if any hospital has a shortage of anything on a daily basis. they let us know and we find that and we have been able to find that equipment for them or ppe so nobody has an actual smort fall. shortfall. if somebody has a problem not having dialysis, they would let the state know. >> the does the mandate applies to kids. >> depends on how you define kids.

>> yesterday when referring to the mask mandate you said it is not that inconvenient. you said what's the big deal. for many people we have learned it is a big deal to wear a mace mask. they feel it is a government control. regular mask and the cloth mask do little to protect you from coronavirus. do you feel you are under playing the impact of your mandate. >> no, i am not under playing. i said that i know there is a lot of omnivore serious conditiocond it is a face covering. it is a face or a cloth covering of the nose and mouth.

it does not have to be a mask. i understand that people do not like it. some people think it is an inposition over reach. i understand that. some people think the close down order was the government over reach. some people think this is all a fabrication and a political conspiracy. to them i say, if you don't think 600 people died yesterday and if you don't think that's a problem, i disagree with you. if you doubt that 600 died, i will bring you to see the 600 people. is there a fabrication? 600 people died yesterday. that's the reality we are dealing with everyday. we want to see fewer people die. i am asking new yorkers to wear a mask not just to protect

yourself but other people from you. if you have the virus, you can infect other people. and you have a liability of responsibility not to infect me because you are sick. that's when a mask would help. i understand the opposition. my phone is ringing off the hook with the opposition. i also understand what 600 deaths mean. i understand the toll on the healthcare system. i understand the nurses and doctors who are stretched to their limits and i understand police officers everyday who are out there and asking new yorkers to wear a mask at this time is more than reasonable. i understand people disagree. >> the governor of new york andrew cuomo giving his update briefing at the end pushing back on critics who opposed a new policy requiring new yorkers to

wear a mask or facial covering when they get into transportation or public transportation. 600 people are dying, we are going to continue this. a major announcement, even as he says new york is spending the curve, intensive care use is down and hospitalization rate is down. he'll lead in effect of the pause through may 15th of the economic shutdown through may 15th. los angeles extends their shutdown until may 15th. the nation's two largest cities and the nation's capitol exte extending their shutdown until may 15th. the president plans to reopen the economy as of may 1st. a confrontation there. as we bring indica kaitlan coll

to discuss. he's working on regional states. the way governor puts it, it sounds like, delaware and pennsylvania and new jersey have agreed to go along with him to extend the shutdown through may 15th and not what the president wants to hear. >> yeah. he says they're going to work together on when they are going to be opening those other businesses and opening their economy and moving forward. that's notable. just within a few hours, the president got a call with governors, that's where they are expecting to freeze these new guidelines. these are the first guidelines since the president says he wants to reopening the country on may 1st. that's something they have been working on internally outside the white house. while they are not expecting to have the entire country to open at once. they're putting out these guidelines. we have been told by sources as they are moving forward to put these together. they have been focusing on state's specific guidelines and telling states if they are ready

to adopt, they should move forward with that. if not, keep doing what they are doing. the wild card here is the president who's insisting he does have the authority to tell states what to do. if a governor is doing something he does not like, he has the authority to close it. the question is going to be what is the president response to this. he's been watching these governors and taking his own steps and not just new york but on the west coast as well. those states are forming a pack on how they want to reopen the country. new york is really one of the last target sees seem to be. they express caution to the president that new york is nowhere ready to reopen. it is notable that this announcement that they're extending that and new york does

come just a few hours before this call that the president is going to have. >> all right, the governor iss getting ahead of the president. the governor of new york, regional pack regional pact is what he's talking about million may 15th. sir, we'll make the call when our states reopen. another thing the president is upset about is this end of the money for the small business program right now. the administration had new business program, the money ran out. they want it done today. cnn's phil mattingly is with us now. the money is gone, give us another cash confusion. nancy pelosi says there are other things i want in exchange, right? exactly right. democrats have been cleared from the start.

speaker pelosi and schumer making clear that hospitals and state and local government also need aids as well. republicans have been firm. this is just an interim package. they were not willing to negotiate. here is what's going on behind the scenes. the degree we know it at this point. mnuchin does have a good working relationship with the speaker and the democratic leader in the senate. his team had been woshrking wit the democratic staff to see if there is as card forward. nothing can be passed unless it is proourven unanimously. issues that republicans are having problems with. where do things stand right now in the senate is about to meet in 2.5 hours. they hope to have something to pass to give money to sba program during that session.

it appears unlikely that's the case. that means the program will be shutter through the weekend into next week and some of the concerns i am hearing right now are that it could go longer than that unless some type of breakthrough occurs soon. one final point of what this program is. in a midst of a month where 22 million americans filing for unenemploymeu unemployment benefits, this allows business owners to pay out their employees. it is not a stimulus if you will. it is a life raft to pay for mortgage or insurance, it is not just a blank check. the idea being that you can keep small business employees employed even if there is nothing for those companies to do over this period of time. that money is now running dry at a particularly bad time economically and lawmakers right now don't have a path forward, john.

>> phil mattingly, appreciate that. suzanne clark is joining me. it is good to see you. the chamber has considerable ways and a lot of small businesses are saying we need this money. it is now dried up. do you see a path here to compromise today so that this could be replenished or do you have small businesses that may be going bankrupt or not able to pay their employees because of this impasse? >> we know how important this funding is. we hear from them and local chambers across the country every hour of every day. we need congress and we expect congress to display the kind of bipartisan cooperation they display to get the cares act done. we know that every hour and every day counts for these small businesses trying to pay their employees and trying to stay afloat. >> i want your best help.

the president is going to release his guidelines today. he made clear that the economy can resume on may 1st. moments ago andrew cuomo said this. >> we have to continue doing what we are doing. i would like to see that infection rate get down even more. the new york pause policies, it will be extended in coordination of other states to may 15th. i don't want to project beyond that period. that's about one month. one month is a long time. people need certainty and clarity so they can plan. i need coordinated action with other states. >> he talks about that regional cooperation. that would be pennsylvania, new jersey, connecticut and delaw,

massachusetts, and rhode island through the middle of may. the district of columbia will keep its place provision into the middle of may. >> there is a political disagreement here between the president and some of these governors. for businesses trying to reopen, is this confusion now making it harder? >> i think for businesses trying to reopen, they have more questions than answers at this point. they're trying to use this period to make a plan. people anticipate the challenges ahead and be ready when that green light comes. there are all kinds of new processes and new equipment and training and new restrictions that are going to be put on businesses that we never had to deal with anything like this before. there is no play book. i think they're waiting for federal guidance and local executions op when and what they can do during the meantime to figure out how. >> it sounds to me it is unrealistic. smaller businesses or in places

that don't have a lot of cases. for anybody with a significant number of employees. if you are talking about personal protective equipment and new social distancing and all the other provisions, you think may 1st, people are not going to be ready any way. >> i think this conversation misses the point. a lot of people have continued to work this entire time. there are a lotes and workers w currently at it. what can we learn from those businesses who are at it. a lot of people who are working. what can we learn from them to expand this as quickly as possible. we had this crisis, now we have a big economic crisis. the sooner we can get people back to work, the better. susan clark, appreciate your time and insights. very much appreciate your help doing it. up next for us, the news is just

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to be met before these restrictions can be lifted. the national health service needs to be able to cope and provide critical care to all that's needed. there needs to be a sustained and consistent fall of death rates. there needs to be a fall in the rate of infection. that's a different criteria from the death rate but an important one. number four, testing needs to be ready. in the coming days they hope to be testing 100,000 a day which is something they have been promising for a long time and ppe. they need to make sure there is enough for everyone who needs it. five, they said and this is the most important. they need to be sure that the government needs to be certain that there is no risk of a second repeat of another wave that would overwhelm the nhs and the national house service and also on the economic question the point he kept on making, if you rush it now, the economic

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news out of new york, stay-at-home measures left in place until may 15th. in los angeles, the mayor in new jersey says his city will postponed until may. cnn's stephanie elam is in los angeles. >> that's big news from the mayor. you may not see the lakers with fans until next year. what's the reaction there? >> reporter: yes, that's a difficult for people to even

vision at this point. the basis is we need more testing. we heard this from other municipalities as well. before there is any reopening or going back to what we knew as normal, what needs to happen is testing. we know who has had the virus testing for those antibodies. anyone that's asymptomatic as well and being able to track downey cases and shutdown an outbreak quickly and quarantine any people who have been near somebody. they need to have surge hospitals open. i have been inside the surge hospitals here in los angeles. one of the 11 in the state that have opened up. ongoing research and development, that's the pharmaceutical part of it. finding the vaccine and getting to people. before we get any of that done. it will be what's necessary before we can open the city. the peak is still ahead for us. we had two of the largest numbers of death in l.a. county

because of covid-19 because of the last two days. these numbers show us that we are still not there. he's afraid that if we try to loosen things quickly, we could see a bigger outbreak. that's what they don't want to happen. the other part he spoke to is the new normal of having mass. any essential business that's still opened, you got to have your masks with you. this the way it is going to be here for a while, john. >> stephanie elam in los angeles. a closer look at coronavirus disruption on higher education. being prepared and overcoming challenges. usaa has been standing with them for nearly a hundred years. and we'll be here to serve you for a hundred more. ♪

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look at these staggering numbers from the labor department today. 5.2 million americans filed new unemployment claims last week. that brings the four week total to a massive 22 million. here is a visual reputation of the economic claims happening across the country. see those cars, those people waiting for hours to pick up food from the free food bank. >>. >> everything was great. >> for these small business owners, it all came crashing down. covid-19 changed everything. >> it was poamericans who are

self-employed or freelancer can now apply for unemployment. >> anna castillo is one of them. her family owns the cruise parking lot in miami but no cruises, her income is zero. >> me and my family putting blood and tears for this country, safe cruise parking was built from their savings and every penny they ever worked for. >> reporter: christina owns a pr company in atlanta and business is slow. as a single mom to a nine years old, she's the family's breadwinner. her money is drying up. >> i would say the first week of may, it would be gone. >> reporter: christopher payne is in the same boat.

>> the bills don't stop. >> reporter: his gaming shop is a month away from shutting down. >> i applied for the loan and the grant and i also applied for unemployment. nothing has worked out at this point. >> reporter: with a backup of unemployment processing, payne is weeks away from a check. >> if unemployment came through, i would be able to turn all that money into money that i would use for my business. >> reporter: 43% of small business owners say they have less than 6 months until they'll close because of covid-19. for some, the will to survive could be enough. >> failing is not something in my radar or in the back of my mind when it comes to my business. i know i will be there 40% or 50%. >> reporter: for others, the wounds may be too deep. >> it is not just the business but the people behind it and

everything they do to provide a service to you and make a living for themselves. i would say support your local business. >> cnn, new york. >> painful to hear those stories. classrooms and campuses and now just like businesses, colleges and universities are forced to reimagine the future. >> hey, john, how are you doing? we learned that the college board is talking about preparing for a future where students may take the s.a.t.s online because they can't go back to their classrooms. students facing uncertain future and that means they'ir institutions are also facing

uncertainty. >> reporter: colleges and universities nationwide are being forced to make hard choices, one of the hardest whether to keep campuses close this fall? it is a decision has to be made soon. most institutions need some where around six-week to two-month to understand and be able to open. >> reporter: president wayne frederick is weighing to see if students can feel safe in classes. >> we don't know how much of a threat if we get a second wave in the fall. we have to be cautious. >> reporter: after the crisis is over, the challenge for education is not only the beginning. >> for many colleges and universities not going back in the fall means that may lead to further lay offs in their communities. >> reporter: the growing financial crisis is creeping into the ways that students

think of their future. a recent survey around 30,000 high school students found more than 80% of juniors and seniors were more concerned of college. >> continuing students struggled to come back because their circumstances can change differently. >> reporter: another way the president interacts with students, all colleges hope to open in the fall and the atmosphere will flourish again. >> you have a lot of layers of support for students on a residential campus. students are hoping not to miss out on the best part of college. >> there is the social aspect of students and faculties and staff interaking with each other. human contact is really important. there is a couple of different campus resources formulating of

a well-grounded human and student activities in groups and whatn whatnot. students are really missing out on. >> reporter: all over the country students are trying to figure out exactly what they can do about their future. we have seen education institutions that had to scramble and create this online program just in a matter of days as campuses shutting down. we seen colleges switched to pass-fail grading. now we don't know what happens next. how we sit here and they have to plan on whether or not they're going to open the campus in the fall. students who are going to be freshman next year could be going to college from their living room. >> everything is changing and everything is uncertain.

every v evan, appreciate that important look. we'll see you back here. a busy news day, anderson cooper picks up our coverage right now. i am anderson cooper, thank you for joining our special coverage of coronavirus pandemic. the president is expected to unveil his plan on how to reopen the economy and while the president is ready to give some directions. he's getting some signals of nation's governors and consumers are not waiting to take it. america's two largest cities, new york and los angeles, and the nation's capitol extended stay-at-home order until may 15th. plus, moments ago, andrew cuomo announced the same extension for his state and six other states coordinating with