>> i'm not going to pretend that things are open questions whether they're not. you know why the president is pushing protests and saying to liberate states right after he said he wants to heal, because he doesn't want to heal. he wants to sell the message that he wants to reopen because he thinks that sounds good to e the base. good. that's good. he wants to get us open so this isn't his problem. he's not why we're suffering, and it's not true and it's not fair. minnesota, michigan, virginia. they've all been following the national guidelines to keep americans safe. national means they come from the president. and by -- guess what? good for the president. good for the guidelines. they're flattening the curve. yet, the president, again, the man behind the guidelines, is now amplifying the prize of protestors out in tight group, without masks, you know, flouting the social distancing, saying it's a hoax. using the word hoax. saying coronavirus is just like the cold. complete bs. and the president is using

insurrection language. telling these protestors, liberate your state. does that sound like healing? again, this is who he is. this is what trump is about. you do not need to ask the question. you know the answer. cnn's kaitlan collins has the latest on what's been coming out of the white house. >> reporter: after telling states yesterday to call the shots on when to reopen, president trump is now openly encouraging conservative protests in three blue states with stay at home orders. >> i think some things are too tough. >> earlier today, he tweeted liberate minnesota, liberate michigan, liberate virginia. it is under siege. after governors in those states voiced concerns he was inciting further protest, trump affirmed his all-caps message. >> i think we do have some sobering guidance but i think some things are too tough. >> but the president is only encouraging protests in states

led by democrats. all three he mentioned are considered battlegrounds for the presidential election, and he made no mention of ohio where there were also protests but the state is led by a republican. those protests are also defying his own federal guidelines, which urges americans to avoid gathering in groups larger than ten. asked if he is concerned about protestors possibly spreading the coronavirus, trump said he wasn't. >> these are people expressing their views. i see where they are and i see the way they're working. they seem to be very responsible people to me. >> trump began the week by incorrectly claiming that he had total authority as president. but he ended it by passing the responsibility for conducting nationwide testing to governors. advisers inside and outside the white house say it's a clear tactic to protect himself from any political fallout that comes with reopening the nation. >> let's bring in kaitlan. kaitlan, thank you very much for

reporting, especially at the late hour. what are you hearing from those in and around the white house about what the play is here for the president? >> well, we heard some advisers say that this is obviously a way for the president to try to shield himself, if there is fallout from reopening these states. as we've seen him continue to push to do. but, also, one concern we heard from some officials is of course they don't think the president can actually mandate these states to open, even though he said he believes there some who could begin doing that today. but you didn't even see republican governors completely relax guidelines or really move forward in that way. one thing we have been told the president's advisers are watching is if he keeps pushing for these three states, blue states the three he named today, stand their ground and do not loosen their guidelines right now because they don't feel like it's the right thing to do, they are worried about what that clash could look like between the president and these governors. >> it is' going to look just like this. we know exactly what the clash is going to look like. the question will be who will

find some progress in this? who will find a way to keep us safe. it's always been about testing. it's always been about planning. it still is. we just don't have the answers. kaitlan collins, thank you so much for giving us insight. have a great weekend. let's bring in journalist carl bernstein. carl, my big brother, it's good to see you as always. it's been a while. let's talk about your understanding of the president's awareness. okay. the direct question is, is the president aware that testing is everything when it comes to reopening? and that the states can't handle it and the feds can't make it happen. is he aware? >> he is aware and i was told on april the 6th that he knew that we were not up to testing, and that reopening, he wanted to reopen on may 1st. he had a group of people, under jared kushner, his son-in-law, who were trying to work on the problem on how to get open. and kushner and those around him advised the president that

testing had to be in place to do this responsibly. in fact, here is a quote from someone who is an aide to the president from april 2nd. if we can get the right testing, it's conceivable we can open may 1st. that we can begin the process. if we can get the right testing, mr. president. that is what he was told. that is what he knew. and what he has done since is reckless and irresponsible and negligent. >> so reckless, the legal definition, is that you perceive a risk and then do that risky thing anyway. and it seems to me the exact definition of the president saying the protestors, in states that are following his guidelines, by the way, they are federal directives. yeah, you should be angry. you should liberate your states. what's the play for him in that? >> well, the play for that is to his base, as well as to cover up

his own malfeasance and misfeasance. but let's look at what he did and said today. president of the united states, at the moment of this nation's utmost vulnerability since world war ii, preached and incited to the people of this country insurrection. it's madness. and it's a degree of recklessness that's really inconceivable. and one of the things you are seeing from the governors, particularly, they're led by larry hogan, a republican of maryland. your -- your brother, governor of new york, a democrat. but they are almost united to the person in knowing how reckless this president has been through this ordeal. and, now, we find ourselves in a situation where, like looking at nurses in garbage bags in our

operating theaters, in our hospitals, in our icu units, we don't have the basic testing apparatus that singapore, that south korea, was able to save its citizens because it proceeded methodically. and we have a president who says i'm not a supply clerk. can you imagine fdr, in world war ii, saying i'm not a supply clerk? this is -- there's something obscene about this. >> well, listen. we -- all we know are the facts. okay? they have supply chain issues. they can't get the swabs. they can't get the reagent. they put out this list of labs before. private labs. what good is that? those are the labs that put out machines that can process tests. yeah, okay. where? who's going to do the processing? who's going to do the contact tracing? what are you going to use in the test packets to process? they know all the issues. i know, for a fact, and you can imagine how, that the governors have been going to the federal government and saying this is what we need. republican and democrat.

and they are being turned away. so then you get into a fight with the governors. okay. we have the tweet. i think it's the president punching my brother in the nose. can we put up the tweet and we'll read it for context. so put the tweet up. governor cuomo should spend more time doing and less time complaining. for you who watched me the other night, this was exactly the hypothetical that i put up to my brother about what the president would say. not tooting my own horn, i'm just saying i guessed right. get out there and get the job done. stop talking. we built you thousands of hospital beds that you didn't need or use, gave large numbers of ventilators that you should have had and helped you with testing that you should be doing. we have given new york more help and equipment than any other state, by far, and these great men and women who do the job, you never say thanks. your numbers are not good. less talk. more action. look. carl and i could pick this apart and prove to you, whether he's my brother or not, literally everything in there isn't accurate. it's not the point. he is doing it to my brother, and others, and the play is

pretty clear, carl. and i think my brother and the governors lose because it's i want to reopen. i'm trump. i want to reopen. i believe in america being open. these guys want to keep it closed. i think they're in a tough spot, the governors. >> well, the people who are losing are the ones who are losing their lives, and that's what we have got to keep in mind. and that is the price of some of this president's negligence and recklessness. he had the defense production act, that he could have used, early on, to make sure that we had swabs, to make sure that our nurses weren't wearing garbage bags. he used none of these instruments. and, in fact, he did not act on any of this until, finally, the scientists, fauci, birx, sat him down and said, mr. president, at the end of march, if you don't act, we are going to lose hundreds of thousands of our people. and finally then -- and his son and son-in-law had to convince him, according to people in the

white house i've talked to. that he had to stop being delusional and in denial. we have had a president, from the beginning of this episode, this horror in our history, who has been derelict and not being up to the job that we need. and yesterday, for a few minutes, it appeared that he grasped what was going on. it really appeared, perhaps, we are going to move forward in a responsible way. and what do we get today? insurrection? he wants to promote insurrection? talk about the second amendment when our people are going through this horror. and then talk to your brother, the governor, about numbers. electoral numbers. who the hell cares about electoral numbers at this moment? at least you shouldn't be talking about them. >> trump does. and i hope people heard what you said tonight. and i hope they process it, carl. and we'll put it out online for people. you have a situation, right now, where the president knows if he plays politics in a certain way, it may work to his advantage.

hence the protests. hence, pushing on governors like my brother and other ones, republicans and democrat. party spares nobody from this president right now. but, as carl said, ultimately, the measure of the moment is going to be who lives and who dies. and that's not about red or blue. that is about me, you, and the people we love. that's what's going to matter most. how will the president do on that metric? that story remains to be told. carl bernstein, thank you very much. have a great weekend. stay safe. and, look, i want carl on because he is a legend and he can diagnose it for us. but let's be fair. the media's playing a role in this, fight. fight. fight. fight. they like trump fighting with the governors. they like the provocation. we have to push these guys to find answers. we have to keep pushing the reality that people are dying. don't push protests. help those people who are dying. where is his answer on that? that's the media's job.

so the vice president, he has a piece in this also. he says we have enough tests to start reopening country. prove it. several state labs, again, republican and democrat, say, no, we don't. where is their help? they haven't offered it to us. why can't he convince them? democrats and republicans. remember. testing is not a hypothetical. i, and thousands of people just like me, are proof of our dilemma. i'm going to tell you the latest turn in my case that should be good news. it is for me. but it's not good news for you. next. never touched once it comes out of the oven. and we're taking extra steps, like no contact delivery, to ensure it.

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all right. we have had a chance in the state of play. president trump has decided forget this healing talk. it's not me. it's better to play the heal. and, now, he is once again on attack. his target this time, the governors. why? because the governors are the ones pushing back on the absurd notion that we are a ready read reopen. his target today, in particular, was another cuomo. and the governor of new york fired back. here's what he said. >> first of all, if he's sitting home watching tv, maybe he should get up and go to work, right? i don't know, what am i supposed to do? send a bouquet of flowers? i said thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. i said, 11 times, i don't want to get involved in testing. it's too complicated. it's too hard. i know it's too complicated and it's too hard. that's why we need you to help. >> let's bring in sanjay gupta. sanjay, let me provide prophylaxis for you from a

political discussion. we are better than that. let's agree. i don't want to see my brother in this kind of situation. it's not helpful to the state of new york, although i do believe he's got to fight the good fight because, otherwise, he and the other governors are going to get steamrolled by this president. i don't want to see the president in this situation because he should be finding solutions. i don't want to see the media fomenting this fight, fight, fight, pushing for solutions to what we all recognize is a must before we can reopen. testing, sanjay. what is the reality, from your reporting and understanding, of where we are in terms of the ability to open up anything, in any region, in any real way, and monitor people in realtime, test, treat? >> chris, first, you know, i got to say that it does get frustrating sometimes as a reporter because you do see some of the solutions. you see the problems sort of identify themselves.

you see solutions sort of appear. and we can taubt abolk about th it gets a little frustrating when they are not getting executed. as you and i point out, there is lives on the line here. people are getting sick and we are going to talk about you in a second. but here's what i think is important to realize because we use it as this term testing, one sort of big term. and in fact, it's many little things. as i think your brother was alluding to. the idea that someone wants to get a test, needs to get a test, and then can get a test, get a result. all the steps in between are really important. and i think maybe this will sort of elucidate what's going on here. i think capacity for testing has improved. that means public labs, commercial labs, university labs, all these things have improved. they can analyze the samples once the samples come in, in an appropriate way. but to get the sample, to have enough swabs, to have the medium in which the swab needs to be maintained and stored and

transported, to have the reagents that then pull the virus, if there is any virus, off the swab. all of that are -- are -- are certain products that are part of the supply chain. and the issue that i'm sure you have heard, chris, many people have heard is that we don't have enough of those supplies. so you could everything except the swab. you could everything except the medium to transport the swab or the reagent to pull the virus off the swab. if you don't have any one of those things, the testing doesn't work. so a to b falls apart. this is the gap i think dr. fauci was talking about today. the problem is in order to get that supply chain working, that's what i am hearing when i talk to my colleagues at the public health level in these various states. we actually have the capacity, they say. we know, we have identified who nee needs to be tested. the problem is x, we don't know how to get x because everybody on the planet wants to get x and right now has to negotiate with china or some other country. so that's the balance between sort of the federal and the

state issue. and it's an ongoing one and it's a bit frustrating because this is a problem that clearly needs to be solved, chris. >> everybody is missing something, at every level, when you talk to them. and the frustration is -- and, again, it's not to play politics. okay. and, you know, that's a little bit of a deceptive phrase. people say they don't want to play politics. well, guess what, it is politics. i'm saying we don't have to play got-ya politics. even some of these young lions like dan crenshaw, who i think is going to be a leader in this country for a long time to come. republican. serv served bravely as a special operator. he's spending so much time. i want him to come on the show. defending the president pakimak bad moves early on. dan crenshaw wouldn't have said the things he said early on and he knows it. he'll defend it but he won't say he would have said it. and now, instead of fighting to have them throw everything at this the way they did at the wall, they found money all over the place. they found pockets everywhere. they found authority everywhere

to get it done. why isn't he having these great american companies make the swabs? make the reagent? everybody says that it's not chemically complicated. but it's just about supply chain. why not throw everything at it, sanjay? that's my frustration. >> yeah. no. and, you know, this is one thing that we're all in together. and that's not just a euphemism. i mean, we really all need the same thing here because, ultimately, in order to get the country up and running, which i think everybody wants, it's -- it's -- it's really all about testing. and it was about testing. it is, now, and it will continue to be. and it's a solvable problem. this is a fixable problem. this isn't something that, you know, we have to look at and say -- it is complicated but it's fixable. and i think the solutions -- really identified here. you got to fix it first, absolutely. >> because you can't do it backwards. i'm proof positive of why you need to get testing straight. here my situation.

to be fair, sanjay knows it again. i call him all the time, all day long. he is an angel this guy. he's so busy and yet he always makes himself available. so, by dcdc guidelines, okay, this should have been a big headline. like promoted on instagram. i have 72 hours of fever free by cdc guidelines. i have no more respiratory symptoms, cdc guidelines. i am over seven days from the beginning of my symptoms, i'm like 15, 18 days from the beginning of my symptoms. but i am not well. so, by cdc guidelines, if i were to hang out for another week, i could go back to work. you do not want me standing next to you, sweating on you, and coughing on you right now. i can get tested. i'm a special person. i'm a big media, you know, person. i got my brother's the governor. i can get tested. most people in my situation, sanjay, can't. and they're going to clear the seven days and they can go back to work, and they may well be contagious. >> this is confusing for people.

we made a full screen, chris, maybe we can put it up. but let's just let people at home look at these criteria as we talk about for people to actually not have to isolate even within their own home. this is the point. so chris has been isolating within his home. everyone should be staying at home. but on top of that, chris has been isolating within the home. so if you want to stop isolating in the home -- maybe we don't have the list. basically, as you said, 72 hours without -- there it is -- 72 hours without using anything to reduce the fever. improvement and i would say near absence of respiratory symptoms, which you have done. you have improved a lot on that. this is for people who can get the testing. two negative tests in a row, at least 24 hours apart. if you can't get testing, you basically have to be seven days from the beginning of your symptoms. chris, you meet criteria. but the thing that struck me today about the conversation we had and, again, very instructive for people at home. they may say, hey, look, i'm

that guy. i meet these criteria but i still feel cruddy. not necessarily respiratory symptoms. i just don't feel myself. i know you can do the exercise. you do more exercise now than i can do typically, and yet you still don't quite feel yourself, is that right? >> here's what's weird about me, just in this context. there is a lot that's weird about me. but the respiratory usually goes last. people will be coughing. they will be short of breath for weeks after their fever has cleared. i'm reverse. so why am i still in the basement? because christina's sick. she's upstairs. she's doing amazingly well, by comparison. she -- women do better. maybe it's her blood type. maybe it's her immune system. maybe it's juthe fact that she' just tough and she's a mom and i'm soft. but she is doing better. she already feels better today than she did yesterday. amazing. thanks to god for that. and the kids are still at least asymptomatic. you know, nobody's sick. i'm still down here because i am

not at my normal body temperature. i run about 97.6. i am high 98s, even tickle into the low 99s. but, on average, i wind up below that so, for the cdc, i'm fine. but i'm not. so, now, they introduced a new thing to me, sanjay, which i want to talk people through. the reason i said, the other day, i wouldn't be surprised if we find out that this virus has been around here since before february, before january, maybe last fall. i know -- i'm not going to not say it because the media got-ya machine comes after me. okay. i have dozens and dozens of anecdotal evidence from people who say they think they have this. sanjay hears it all the time, too. so does fauci. so do the people on the task force. so does everybody in every state level. they haven't been able to test, and we're never going to really know until we start doing the antibodies. and all these people are going to wind up having antibodies. you'll see, for this. and they won't know why and that will be a beautiful thing. and they will start having new

theories about how a higher percentage than they thought before had been exposed to this virus. and it will change curves and it will change expectations. but i'm telling you, we don't know where we are with this virus. and if we can't test people, we are going to make mistakes. and i am a perfect example of it. i could go back to work. i'm not going to do it, sanjay, because i know that there's something funky about this temperature not being right. and the new thing is, it's recovery, sanjay. it's worth the time. one beat on this. so i am okay. but because of how strong the virus was and how beat up i am by the virus, i may now have symptoms and diminished capacity and even flash fever for weeks. explain that to people, how the recovery phase can kind of mimic the sick phase. >> it -- it is very interesting, chris. you know, they even looked at some of the early data out of china, and i say this not to alarm you. you know, i -- i -- i'm very hopeful and optimistic you're going to have a complete recovery. but there have been people

who -- who, in these early studies out of china, even a few months afterwards, after they recovered, they were in the recovered category if you looked at them in the papers, documented as recovered. and, yet, they were still having diminished lung function even a few months, two to three months afterward. sometimes 20 to 30% decreased lung function. we don't know. why would that be? is it some sort of persistent inflammation? you know, these are people who had cleared the virus out of their body. they had negative tests. so what was going on there? well, we're still learning about that. but, chris, to your point earlier, there was a study that just came out, looked at -- in california, northern california -- they looked at a particular community where the confirmed cases were a thousand people. but, as part of the study, they started to try and do surveillance using antibody testing to try and figure out how many people had likely been exposed to this up until april 1st. i don't know if you want to take a guess, chris, but i'll just tell ya. they guessed it was up to 80,000

people. so 1,000 confirmed. but when they go look at the antibody testing, they speculate now that 80,000 people were likely exposed to this virus. just like you said, i don't know if it was as far back as october. you know, because we just don't. you know, if you would have had cases in this country that far back, you probably would have had corresponding hospitalizations, corresponding deaths. nevertheless, it's been here for a while, and there's probably been a lot of people who have been exposed. 80 times, chris, in that one community. we're going to have to see what that means for the rest of the country. >> right. people can look it up. the new england journal of medicine tested this. bunch of pregnant women. and they had a much higher hit rate than they expected. and it allowed them to start extrapolating that you may have three in ten of people in the population who may have been exposed. how'd they get exposed? yes, you probably would have had corresponding hospitalization rates, maybe even worse, if you were looking for it. and if people were getting that sick that they had to go to the hospital. there are a lot of ifs and, again, i know i am not saying it

as a fact. the media got-ya machine can come after me. i don't care because we have to be open to learning things about this virus and its exposure and its environment, in this country, that we don't yet know because we've been wrong every step of the way. dr. sanjay gupta, you are the best. >> because we didn't test enough. >> that's right. and we're not testing enough now, and we're not prepared to test and that will never change until testing changes. we'll never be where we need to be. we have to get better. cure. vaccine. yes. yes. you will always have to test. let's take a break. this country doesn't reopen without testing, period. but while we wait, the small business rescue fund just ran dry. why? let's talk to an expert about how that happened and what needs to happen next.

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no more money for the small businesses fighting to keep the doors open. the president knows this. he says that's a win. >> nobody knew it was going to be this successful. don't forget, when you say the money's gone, it's been a tremendous success as a program. >> all right. so it's not that it's dried up. it's been given out. and that means a lot of businesses should be better off. let's bring in obama -- former obama economic advisor austin. professor, is it a good thing that the money has all been dispensed? or is there another reckoning? >> you know, this is emergency rescue money, so that they blew through all the money in a week is a sign that there are a lot of people that were in desperate need of rescue. i think the deeper problem -- so i'm all for getting the money out the door. i think there -- everyone knows, if you know anybody in small business, you've heard the

stories that there were many, many problems with getting this money out the door, to the people who need it. and so it -- they set it up to be first come, first serve. they steered the money through the banks and the banks, apparently, just chose the customers that they already liked the best, who already had lines of credit and, arguably, needed it the least. and that's who they gave all the money to. so if you look out your door, you are thinking, in your mind, $3 $350 billion the federal government was going to give in forgivable loans to save people's jobs and to save small business. if you had in your mind that was going to be your local restaurant or the beauty salon or the dry cleaner, it's really, i think, virtually, none of those. i mean, it's much more going to the big companies that already had access to credit before this started. >> so where do we get -- so this is about more money then.

so just to keep it light and tight, is the answer that congress has to come back and give more? and do we, also, have to think about how it's distributed? not through the banks? >> yes. to both of those. though, the thing is, i think there is a serious question. should congress -- the republicans seem to be saying let's just take the same system we had, and let's add more money to it. but i kind of think, given what just happened in the last week, we might want to rethink whether you just want to pile more money into that same system. >> it's so interesting, after 2008, we're, once again, letting the big banks decide how the money works. it's just amazing. but it seems to me like i don't know that there's another way. i don't know that the little guy can get ahead. i really don't because that's always trump's call for the little guy and, yet, here we are once again.

aust austin golds busineby, have a g weekend. all right. another neglected part of this story and you will start hearing more about it. tomorrow, there is an amazing special called the color of covid with van jones and of course d lemon about how minority communities are getting crushed. you know who else is getting crushed? the military. i want you to meet a veteran who fought like hell to win his battle with coronavirus. i want you to join me in saluting a retired marine and, now, a coronavirus vet. next.

veterans. we always say we care about them so much and we support the troops, right? but we always fall short. you ever think about that? it's happening again right now. guess how many of our veterans are over 55.

half. half. you know how many that is? 13 million. a lot of them are in densely-packed homes, very vulnerable, underlying conditions, don't have what they need. don't have the ppe in place. but they're good stories as well and we got to celebrate them. david williams. veteran. he's got pre-existing conditions. he's got 55, he's 54 so let's not age him. started feeling symptoms a month ago. chills, aches. he ended up spending eight days on a ventilator. but our warriors are tough. 17 days, released from the hospital. cheers from the medical staff. cheers from family. and, let's be honest, cheers from us, as well. this courageous ameri-can joins us now. david williams, thank you for your service, and thank god you survived. >> thank you, chris. >> how you feeling, brother? >> blessed to be here.

recovery is a little rough. i thought i was going to be able to jump right into it. but it's going to be a pretty long process. >> you learned that and so have i, just today. guys like us thought, once it's over, it's like anything else, bounce back up. maybe one day you're a little sideways. then, you get back to normal life. not with covid. what are they telling you that the recovery looks like? >> well, it's kind of like a hit and miss. it's -- for me, it's, more or less, getting my lungs back into -- into working condition. because, when i went on the ventilator, i had a lot of it in my lungs was taken over. and so it's going to be a process to be able to get that -- to get my lung capacity back. not only that, i lost a lot of

muscle mass, you know, being out for eight days. so had to use a walker, here, currently, at home. also, my wife a nurse and my two -- and my kids. they're also kind of like in the medical field, as well. so they're my therapists out here at home recovering. since physical therapy can't come for home help. >> do you have a spirometer? the thing you suck in to show how much lung capacity you have? >> yeah. that's my new toy. >> oh you got one? i was going to say, if you don't, i'll send you mine. but if you have that, that's cool. that's all you're going to need. now, let me ask you something, dave, you had -- you were up against the worst of it. you know, i'm one of the lucky ones. were you worried, when you were on that ventilator, that you might not get off?

i'm sure that you had heard stories about how people, when they get on that ventilator, it gets a little dicey. were you aware of that? or did you think that i'll get off, i'll get off? >> i just basically remember right before i went on to the ventilator, you know, the doctors telling me the ins and outs of being on a ventilator. you know, they told me that it might be a chance and that it might not be. and so i could do it as, you know, put it in the good lord's hands. but va respiratory therapist and a lot of the nurses and stuff. they did an extremely good job because they did say that i had a very low chance of survival. on this. but they put all their years of experience together, and were able to pick the right time for me to come off because if they would've did it too early or too late, never know what might've

happened. >> and i know part of what matters to you is for people to create awareness that there are a lot of veterans out there that are vulnerable, that need care and need help. a lot of them are in homes. you know, they're not in the situation you are, thank god, where you're home and with your family. you want people to remember them, yes? >> yes. yes. because it's -- you know, like, you can go to a -- to battle. go to war. you know, you're dug in and you're fighting in the fight. and be able to come home for that. and then you get here and you got a little virus bug that takes you out. so it's kind of -- it's kind of a little difficult to understand that you can -- you can be able to be taken out just by anything. but you fight for your country. now, you come home, you got to fight for your life. >> let me tell you. you sound good. you sound good, david.

you sound a little bit tight, you know, in the lungs. and you're getting your breath back. i don't want you to -- i don't want to overtax you here. but you are one hell of a warrior. to get off the ventilator, that's a fight. and especially you knowing the stakes. but, obviously, you served the country. you have been through worse, and you've been through this. and i just wanted people to recognize your success. i want to thank you for your service. bless your wife. bless your kids. hopefully, they don't go through it anymore or going through it with you is more than enough. and, if it's okay with you, i'd love to stay in touch and just make sure that the recovery is coming along. >> yes, sir. and, you know, we'll throw some prayers up for you and your family to have a speedy recovery. you know, so i know how you feel. that, you know, this is -- this is not a -- not an easy trip.

especially, when it comes to a lot of guessing game on how they're going to be able to, you know, the hospital's going to be able to take care of you. depends on because there are so many different scenario because everybody has different symptoms. you know, everybody has other medical issues that could impact this virus. but, like i said, you know, the va did a tremendous job. and, you know, as for us here, at home, my wife -- my wife's a nurse already. she was stressing big time because she, also, had to go into 14 days of -- >> quarantine. >> -- isolation here at the house. so she couldn't come see me. and so the doctors and nurses all contacted her to make sure they give her an update on what's going on. >> that has got to be so hard for a wife and a nurse to not be

able to be there, by your side, and do what she wants to do. it's just so hard on the whole family, dave. i don't have to tell you that but i want people to understand that. that the whole family goes through it. and you saw the worst of it and you came out the other side. and i have to tell you, i hope people appreciate it because i sure as heck do. i had a mild case by comparison, and it was all that i could handle. so god bless you. just so people know, you know, dave taking a little oxygen right now. it's assistive. getting pure oxygen in there helps, with the expansion of quality air in the lungs. and he'll wean himself off that, in time. david, god bless. be well. i'd love to stay in touch. thank your wife for what she is doing. and i'll which can check on you >> thank you, chris. >> thank you, brother. be well. be well. imagine that. being on a ventilator and they say, hey, maybe you survive. maybe you don't. how many people are dealing with that around this country? and, again, it brings us back to

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hey, i'm chris cuomo. welcome back to a special two-hour edition of primetime. i'm feeling good. this is a good test of how strong my body has gotten. so thanks for being here with me to test it all out. now, let's talk about the sober reality. as of tonight, at least 700,000 people in this country have been infected by coronavirus. i sa