tests? i think the president is right when he says the states should lead. what the states will run into when you talk to those 300 labs, they buy machines and equipment from national manufactures. those labs can only run as many tests as their national manufactures provide them chemicals or reagents and lab kits. the national manufactures say they have supply chain issues. i would like the government to help on the supply issues. >> is it funding? >> no, this is harder than funding. it is a quagmire. i have said i will buy and i will pay, what do i have to pay to get the tests? the national manufacture will

say it is not easy. i can't get the chemical coming from china and i can't make the swabs or the virals fast enough. i don't know what's right or wrong but that's where the federal government should help. should states take the lead on the test? yes. that's exactly right. we need the volume and the volume is determined how well those manufactures provide the kicks to the 300 labs in new york. once you take the test there is a second function we are not talking about. you take the test tracing, we have to talk about tracing because people don't understand what tracing is. tracing is in this function that we have never done before where you hire an army of people and thousands of people to be

investigators and that's it. an investigator who traces the contact of every person that's positive. that's an entire entity that no one even imagine before. >> would you like the federal government to use in a defense production act to ramp up production and have the federal government to hire an army of tracers? is that what you are asking for? >> the tracers i would argue and just my personal opinion as the governor of new york, i would do the tracing as a state of responsibility also. some people think the federal government should help on tracers, i would say the state can do the tracer and i will coordinate with buffalo and new york city and west chester and

etc. anything that's grandular and specific to details of the states, leave it to the state of government. you are in the federal government. i used to be in the federal government. the federal government you are painting a room with a roller. you can't do corners with roller. you can't do trims and molding with a roller. somebody has to come behind you with a brush to do the details. state government has a rush. federal government has a roller, i have a brush. let the federal government do what they can. it requires a brush, let the state government do it. the big question on testing is that national manufacturer supplier chains and getting it up to scale. i will hand in my 300 labs.

my 300 labs are saying i can't get the labs from the national manufactures. nobody designed this before. it is nobody's fault. nobody is to blame. tl w the way the testing world works was the national manufactures made their machine. the andrew cuomo testing machine. i sold my machines to private labs and hospitals. my machine only operates if you have an an drew cuomo testing kit. you have to buy from me. now you call up and say i want to buy a thousand kits. normally you would only buy 100. i know but now i want a thousand. i can't get you a thousand. even though you have the

machines, i have such an increase demand, i can't produce it in time. to unravel it the chain issues, that's the best way the federal government can help. >> i am a little confused. are you asking the feds to tell in and tell manufactures to bring in other manufactures to make this sort of equipment and then you are asking for the federal government to pay for the tracers but you will hand over the nuts and bolts? >> we didn't get into payment of tracers. i don't think there is proposal of tracers? the states right now paying for the tests. that's why i said when they said states governors go reopen, okay, i will pay for the tests and the tracers. it is not about the money on this front.

it is about the vision of labor and responsibilities. on the testing i can't solve for the national manufactures not being able to produce the volume to sell to my state labs. >> given the high number of deaths in nursing homes, we saw a division between nursing home residents that is are passed away and also in the hospitals, what are the state's policies regarding to reemissions to these nursing homes that one of these people have tested for the virus or there was a state directive that said that people can't be denied reemissions, i wonder what the state's policies right now? >> if you are tested positive

for the virus, are you allowed to be admitted in a nursing home? >> if you are positive, you should be admitted back to the nursing home. the necessary precautions will be taken to protect the rest of the members. >> is it safe though? is that the best place judging how rapidly the virus spreads and also this is a vulnerable population as you guys have expressed multiple times. >> that's why we are working closely with the nursing homes and leaderships and protecting those individuals who are coming back who have covid-19 and we are working back to the nursing home. >> what are you working on? >> all the issues of supplies and ppe and staffing and testing of other individuals and as i mentioned the other day, monitoring to be sure necessary precautions are being taken. >> i want to ask you about the hydroxychloroquine results. do you have them? >> it has been done by hospitals

in new york. i think we have -- how many hospitals? over hospitals were administering the drug hydroxychloroquine and doing a test. today those hospitals are to send their results the fda. who do they send them to? >> down to the fda and the cdc. >> fda and cdc and they should be sending the first results today. >> the department of health gets a copy. it is a study that's being done for the federal government, the fda and the cdc. >> do so many upstate hospitals laying off people right now, do you think there is a way to bring back collective surgeries for these people. we spoke about a rolling wave but there are some projections

of other counties are not getting better and they're projected to hit in june. are you worried of regional approach in reopening? >> two questions. is there a rolling curve? yes. it is an ocean. i see an ocean. new york city has the first curve and they project higher curves in other states and other parts of our states, massachusetts is coming toing u high point and we are working with them on anything they need. we are with them, god bless. buffalo will have a later curve and we are watching those curves in different parts of the states. our strategy has always been we deploy where ever the curve is highest. massachusetts has a problem and we run to massachusetts. buffalo has a problem, we run to

buffalo or rochester. when you get up to that point and the locality we are working with to prepare for that high point. on elected surgeries, we stopped elected surgeries for all hospital in ts in the state. that was one of the ways to increase capacity. now we are at a point where some of the upstate hospitals have significant financial burdens because they're not doing elective surgeries which is one of the places they make money. can we have lower vacancy, we don't need those beds for new york city people or buffalo people or anyone else, why not let us start going back to elected surgeries if we don't need the capacity. that's a good question. we have been looking at that.

it is my question of balance and the dial. you let them do the surgery and they'll fill up the beds. what happens if you have a need for those beds because of coronavirus and you don't have the beds because someone is doing some form of elective surgery. we'll announce for that. it has some variable of taking the coronavirus rate in that region and compares it to the vacancy rate in that region and the potential for a high point in that region and we'll announce it tomorrow. >> i think we were at 275,000

process claims, have we been able to make a dent in that especially of people who are self-employed? >> melissa has all the answers. >> they made a significant dent in that. we are listening to the governor of new york giving his daily briefing. the governor encouraged that's the right word in the middle of this pandemic that new york is coming down the case curve. 470 deaths yesterday, it is the lowest number in the states for quite some time since early heading up the curve. the governor says they are making progress. voicing terrible cautions on the question now is all around the country and indeed around the globe, when can you reopen as your case count starts to come down. the governor is saying everyone needs to wait and patience. it is critical that local officials are getting pressured to do things in their community. stay in locked steps not to

confuse people. we needs more testing capacity before he's comfortable to bring people out of their house. let's get to dr. sanjay gupta. there is no good news here but less discouraging news, death toll is 478, lower than three or two days ago. i guess we call it progress. the caution from the governor is i am still not ready even though we are coming down because he does not know how steep or not steep this will be and he says he does not have the testing capacity to feel comfortable when 19 million living in the state of new york when they start to come out by the tens of thousands going back to work and recreational activities that'll start hitting up again. you need to see some trends with regards to this data.

is this even the steepness of the decent, is almost how pointy of the top? is it a few days of the apex and sort of at the top it will plateau and the number stays steady for a while. it is bad news, the good news is the news when we see the numbers are definitively going down. the spread between the doubling time is really starting to widen out all of that and we are not quite there yet. i look at these numbers all the time as you pointed out, it is tough to describe these as numbers because these are real people and their looifrs aives illnesses booipd theehind niest. these numbers bounce around a

lot around the world. for three months now we have been talking about on a regular basis it was important and the most important going forward. we talked about containment strategy and mitigation strategy and containment strategy again. we would love to contain this virus from the start. every single person that was testing positive would have been ice isola isolated and their contact would have been traced and they would be quarantined. we went into mitigation strategies and slow it down. we still don't know what it is. it is going to be about the containment strategy again, the belief that we can identify everyone that's testing positive in this country and harboring the coronavirus in their bodies regardless if they have symptom

and we can isolate them. that's what governor cuomo spent the last several minutes talking about. it was interesting, testing is a duo responsibility, the roller is the federal government and the tiny brush work is the states. the capacity for testing, labs and technicians waiting to get the samples have been proved dramatically. the brush work are the swabs and the reagents and viles that it is transported in in some cases it is in short supplies. that's something needs to be corrected for practically speaking for people need to be getting tested when and if they should. >> i don't know if we know the answer to this. the governor says the new york hospitals participated in the hydroxychloroquine test, the governor of new york a lot of people are critical of the president. the governor says send us some, we'll test it. he says some hospitals are

sending their first round of results to the fda and the cdc. do we have any idea if there is enough data there to have a conclusion or are we still in a preliminary stage or do we not know? >> it is in the hundreds of people. we know ten thousand doses were sent to new york city initially. that the does ndoes not mean 10 patients. results are going to be small studies but we are starting and i think we will. i was checking on this. if it is a federal funded study, the data being sent to hhs and the fda, we should get the result force that even if it is small studies. we are starting to see a drum beat of evidence, brazil, sweden sent out guidance that we should not use this hydroxychloroquine

and france they had some guidance saying in high doses there could be significance side e if he ca effects from this. we'll see what the latest results show. it will be a big trial that will give us a definitive answer that we should come back to the next few weeks. >> i hope they can release the number as they can. this has been putting out for a while including the president. dr. jgupta, thank you for your help there. the big debate, should the united states reopened? a lot of protests are taken to the streets, their answer is yes.

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protesting. they want the states to ease the stay-at-home order. cnn's miguel marquez is right there. tell us what you are seeing. >> reporter: we are walking around this crowd. they were not sure how many people they're going to have out here today. there are several hundreds at least here on the lower steps of the capitol and several hundreds more and you will have hundreds of thousands of cars driving by honking for support. this has been organized by several different groups and many of these are protesting across the country in recent days. this will one seems to be picking up speed because the president himself is using the twitter feed and using a white house of reelection. many people have come out not

only against the quarantine expressing concerns of the quarantine that's put in place but also showing support for the president. we spoke to many who are not wearing masks. they don't think the virus is that serious. they don't think that it pertains to them. they're not concerned of those who are infected. they looks like it is going to go for the next couple of hours. we'll give you updated as this keeps ongoing on. miguel marquez in the middle of that demonstration. the question is whether it is a public health risk as well. miguel marquez in harrisburg, pennsylvania. contamination at a cdc labs

caused weeks of delays. mistakes happen. as the trump administration tried to manufacture its first coronavirus test. sarah reports on this story. >> we know there is a period in february where the test ships out and it was not working. at the white house they're getting a lot of reassurances from the cdc and ahead of hhs that things would be improved quickly and they were on top of it and in reality it took the fda official going down to the cdc lab in atlanta to determine the labs were contaminated and this was kauscaused as a test k. it took until the end of february where the commercial lab into this mix. here is how president trump describes the issue when he's talking about this.

>> we inherited a lot of garb e garbage. they had tests that were no good and they had all the tests that were no good. it came from some where so whoever came up with it. i am proud to tell you now we went from having a lot of bad things happening in the cdc having great things happening, they're doing a great job now. initially our stockpiles were empty and they have done it under pressure. they had to do this under pressure. we are proud of the job they have done. the reality was there were a number of failings within the government that led to the testing to float online and this administration bringing in commercial partners. we did talk to a cdc person who obviously what happened in the lab is under investigation and the quality control systems, they had in place of insufficient this time around. john. >> sarah murray, thank you so

much. joining me now to continue the conversation is dr. michael mena. doctoring, t docto doctors, thank you both for being here. it is hard to get people through a pandemic and it is hard and people are legitimately have every right to do this and as long as they are safe. the idea that medical professionals like yourself or the governors, maybe not all their calls are perfect, the idea that people are falsifying statistics and suggesting this is not real and no more dangerous than the flu. please help answer those people who would see the signs and say

are those people right. >> i think this is a time where there is a lot of concerns by everyone. nobody is falsifying the statistics right now. this is a deadly virus that's killing a lot of people and infecting many, many more more. it may not be apparent to everyone around because a lot of the deaths happening in the hospitals. people are not going to be seeing these with their own eyes unless there are physicians or nurses or medical healthcare professionals who are working with these pay she watients who critically ill. i think it is important to remain focused on the fact that this is still an ongoing epidemic and social distancing measures need to continue in place right now until we get everything under control. i understand the society among people as well. >> let me say this. the doctors don't have to say this when you have public

officials including the president of the united states constantly questioning experts and authorities and whether the facts or the news media gives you are correct. i want to show you viewers of the numbers we see on the screen are depressing. they're not perfect. we don't know what china's count is. they are depressing and they are very real. >> sarah murray talking about the missteps at the cdc, we need to figure out how it happens. we don't need to scream, human beings make mistakes. where are we today? we have a graphic right here. we talked about it yesterday as well. increasing testings by 3 times. some of your colleagues say that's not enough. you believe if we in acrocrease testings by three times, we have good surveillance on people as they start going out of their homes and going back to the workplace. the challenge, they say we can't

do this right now because we don't have maybe it is the testing kits or the kits, we don't have the reagents but we don't have the swabs and they want federal help, listen. >> to try to say the governors have plenty of testings and get to work on testing, how we are not doing our job. >> that's delusion. >> we need these fundamental supply issues addressed so we can ramp up our testing. >> i don't want to take you too deep into politics here. when you are talking to people and collecting information, is there a clear sustainable functioning supply chain for is this a problem and washington is best equip to fix it? >> thanks for having me back on. it is a problem. it is not an issue where 50 governors have all happened to fail at the same time.

that's not what's happening. everybody is trying their best. as governor cuomo says in his press conference, these are national supply chains, these are national companies and we are not going to get through this by 50 states all competing with each other. we need a coordinated unified effort. i believe the only way to a united effort across the country is the federal government. the federal government needs to step up and play a much bigger role. >> we'll see if that'll play out. dr. jha and dr. mina, i appreciate your time. we'll continue our conversation. we'll look at the way you think of the president as he handles the crisis and the numbers tell us many of you don't trust what you are hearing. these days, it's anything but business as usual.

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the president is lashing out at governors saying they still need help. the president wants you to believe that he and his team are pitch perfect. let's start with the president's approval rating. these are new poll numbers. 46% approves how the president is doing his job right now. 51% disapproves. if you look at this track throughout the trump presidency, a few spikes but largely the

president stayed right here. that has been stubborn and constant throughout the trump's presidency. what about the question here how he handled the coronavirus here. his approval rating is on the coronavirus. 52% disapproving that has been the trend. more people disapproving. this is the damming number for the president of the united states. we are in the middle of a global pandemic. 36% of americans say they trust what their presidents tell them in the middle of a pandemic. 50% trusts dr. fauci. 66%, two-thirds of americans trust their governors and fewer than 40% trusting the president. so trust, trust, and no trust when it comes to the president of the united states. here is one other place where the president is out of touch

with the people. he wants to reopen as soon as possible. americans are worried the federal government and the state government will push too soon to reopen. the president knows the number. he has his campaign polling. he knows a lot of you are not happy. he bawants you to know it is no his fault. >> he said we did a phenomenal job. so report accurately because you are one of the most inaccurate reporter. you don't have the brains you were born with. you should have been praising the people who have done a great job. i got here with the most unfair treatments for the history of the united states. they did say abraham lincoln had bad treatments, too. we inherited a lot of garbage. they had tests that were no good. you and the obama administration were duped for years. >> i am not a fan of mit romney. with me to discuss with the

president. dana bash and sunlen kim. >> sunlen i want to have a little contrast with you. we have seen these protests across the country in recent days and you see more of it here. they're yelling at their governors to reopen and yelling at their governors to stop doing what their president asked this them to do. the governor encouraging these protests. governor cuomo are calling up, people are mad, they want us to let them out of the house. the governor says careful. >> governors have to be smart. and it looks confused between the state and the county or the state and the town, that's the wrong message for everyone. so, let's just be smart. >> in other words he's saying let's try to speak with one voice. it is clear in recent days the

president does not see it that way. >> governor cuomo hits on the point right there mixed messaging in a time of a national crisis in the global pandemic does not help. what the president is saying, let them go back to work and let them go back out and socialize and what's not, he's going against his own federal guidelines for doing so. this is not the first time he has gone back on something his own advisers and administration broadly recommended. a couple of weeks ago, the cdc recommended wearing a mask but at that same briefing the president brushed it aside. yeah, i don't think we should do that. the president is still going to be the guiding lights for a lot of these people as a role model and when he gives out these mixed messages or reminders or

guidance of what we as americans should be doing, a lot of chaos are going to erupt. we are seeing it in different states across the country. >> the president says i was perfect, my team are perfect, we are great. how dare you ask anything about our performance? we happen to live in a democracy and we are supposed to ask. that's our job if the news. one of the telling moment, a reporter from cbs asked a very good, honest and legitimate accountability question and got this from the president. >> if you look at what i did in terms of cutting off orbaning china from coming in. >> by the way, not americans who are also -- >> nice and easy. just relax. >> we cut it off. people were amazed. >> keep your voice down, too. >> how many cases were in the united states? i did a ban where i am closing

up the entire country. >> there are thousands ways to come at this. just relax, keep your voice down. it is a perfectly fair question of administration policy, her correction of the president was factually correct. he says keep your voice down. let me translate, he's essentially saying shut up and how dare you. >> he does not like to be challenged by anybody. going back to the numbers you just showed, if you pair those numbers particularly the fact that people distrust him in this crisis and he had such a low ratings 36% compares to the governors and the cdc, that exchange that you just showed exhibits a, b, and c what that is the case. instead of answering a tough question or trying to find a way

out of it or doing something that a more traditional politicians would do perhaps that would help. i am not saying he should evade it. what he should not do is lash out. that's not helping anybody. and about the mixed messages, think about where we are as we speak, john. within the last hour the president tweeted once again that the testing issue is up to the governors. as he sent that tweet, his vice president is on a phone call with the nation's governors where they're talking about this as a partnership. if you don't have consistency with that which is probably one of the most inconsistent and frustrating things that have real life consequences for governors and mayors and people out there trying to figure out how they can get tests and can't, there is no better examples at that.

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small signs of normalcies returning to some towns in the u.k., a new damming report of the prime minister skipping out on early emergency coronavirus meetings. our correspondents across the globe with the latest.

>> reporter: here in germany as of monday, smaller shops can open and allowing customers back in. we are seeing a lot of people who have been taking advantage of that. a lot of people were waiting outside of shops because while they are allowed back in, social distancing measures are still in place. not too many people can be inside the showroom at once. we have been speaking to shopper and they say they are extremely happy. a lot are on the brink despite the fact they were getting aid from the government. now they are pleased to open their doors once again. a lot of them are saying they believe germany was able to get the crisis under control because a lot of testings early on and social distancing measures and also discipline among the population really has been doing this in a way that has been extremely efficient. german chancellor has said yes

the country is able to reopen but she warns that the game are fragile. cnn. germany. here in london, the government's credibility is being called to question. the government promised to deliver over the weekend and that did not happen. the government is being criticized because boris johnson between january and march did not lead the covid-19 emergency meetings of the special cabinet seg segments, cobra. the prime minister was at the helm of the government and was doing his job and it is absolutely unusual to see the government respond this way by ticki ticking upon a newspaper article in that way. it shows the progression of what

the government is under right now. nic robertson, cnn, london. after avoiding the worst of this outbreak for so long, things are starting to get back here in mexico. the country recorded more than 700 deaths and more than 8,000 cases. authorities say they tested about 50,000 people. the case total is likely closer to 70,000. the federal government encouraged people to stay-at-home. one police department is flying a drone around town broadcasting messages encouraging people to stay home. the last week or so i spoken to several doctors who say their hospitals are at or near capacity. this is health officials say the likely peak of cases in this country is weeks away. matt rivers, mexico city. bringing our conversation back home to the united states. move over social distancing.

it is time now to add carjackon tracing. contact tracing is the good old fashion detective work, scaling it up to meet the coronavirus challenge though is a new challenge. a doctor at the harvard medical school. doctor, thank you for being with us, we all learned of new things here. we heard of contact tracing but we are not sure what it is. walk us through what is so necessary here and a contact tracing army, you are in massachusetts, you are going up the curve. what are we talk about? let's assume i am your patient and i have coronavirus, you need to trace everybody, how much work? >> a lot of work. if you are my patienpatient, i you and speak with you and ask where you have been and who you have been in contact with and i

try to get the list of those people's names and jog your memory. usually i am going back to two days before you have any symptoms. in massachusetts, our governor, not many of us have happy to hire thousands of people to work on contact tracing. once we detected cases, we try to figure out who's potentially exposed and they don't know it. we trace the contact with who ever has the disease and we give people the instructions in the hopes they don't go onto transmit the disease. >> you say you are pleased with the governor's effort about a thousand people. if you put up the massachusetts cases right now, you are approaching 40,038,077. as of t

38,000. if you have 40,000 cases, is that enough? >> at the moment we do contact tracing is manually. it is a human speak to human. they trey to remember what they have done and i am recommending the group in my team who have been dividing some digital approaches. i do think as a nation we are going to have to start to be innovative about the way we think of trying to get ahead of this and hopefully technology and digital applications would help us do that. >> i was going to jump in on that point, apple and google talked about this. the blessing of technology where you can do things quickly and eliminate a lot of detective work but also raise giant privacy issues. how do you make it work and how do you make it balance? >> our privacy is an important piece of this and public health does have certain authorities to

understa understand. when we start bringing in our private sectors and talking about our phones, when will this stop and what information has been shared. this is an important piece of it and i would be an advocate of having row boabust -- >> does the size of your army would factor into decisions of reopening and letting more people back in the house. >> we are going to see some increasing cases. the great unknown is how big of an increase. does the size of that tracing army, does that have to be part of the governor's decisions when he or she in the different states okay, let's give it a chance. >> i think we'll see more and more. as you mix more socially and going oiut. we are going to have more cases.

we need to try to cap kmture an turn our attention into areas where it is happening. the number of contact tracers is going to increase around the country to make sure we can safely get out and go back to work. in massachusetts a thousand is more than many places said they would do. it is a really good start and we have to keep our eyes on numbers as we go forward. >> dr. ivers, appreciate your time today and wish you the best in the days and weeks in the months ahead as you do this. we'll keep in touch to see how this is working. >> thank you. >> hundreds of protesters on the streets demanding the government reopen the economy.

i am anderson cooper, thank you for joining us. three months since the first u.s. case was reported of more than 761,000 contracted the virus in the united states. more than 40,000 people have died from it. the death toll doubling in the last week. the white house task force says the first hot spot is in new york and detroit and new orleans are beyond their peak. south carolina set to start reopening their economy, just how to do that across the nation sets intense conflicts between the governors