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here around the world, i am john king, this is cnn's continued coverage of the coronavirus pandemic. a big meeting between the president and andrew cuomo. some countries rushed to reopen and others still grappling with their new restricted reality. in australia, businesses and
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schools and restaurants will open next month. in england the virus have killed more people than being reported. bans on public prayer gatheri s gatherings. here in the united states, coronavirus cases climbing to nearly 800,000. more than 42,000 dead. that's more american lives lost to coronavirus than in the korean war. the president says this is a war. his battlefield priority is using his big twitter platform to brag about the ratings after a late night tweet promising to shutdown all immigrations. aids are rushing to turn that tweet into policies even though most entries into the united states is already sharply restricted. the biggest battlefield needs is more testings. new researchers subjecting 5
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million tests will be needed a day to safely reopen the economy. several are planning to reopen parts of the economy this week. brian kemp is the first to announce a major back to work plan. we look at the daily cases there in georgia. georgia is now exhibit a. some governors say this is too soon and others say their colleagues are being toot timid. >> can you say where you are sitting at this moment that the worse is over in california? >> no. if we all pull back, we can see a second wave that makes in comparison. >> you can do both and fight covid-19 but also get people back to work and have society functioning again. i never did orders here like you see in some of these other states where a dad gets arrested or cited for taking his daughter to the park. that does not work. >> the fda green lighting at
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home test with the coronavirus. testing is issue number one. the president says testing is perfect. he blames the complaints is personal and partisan. >> it is mostly bipartisan. more importantly most importantly bipartisan. it is incorrect. governor hogan did not really know. he didn't know about the federal laboratories. he didn't know. >> straight to white house, cnn's kaitlan collins. >> let's sort it out on testing and stop the finger pointing, what's the process? >> it will be a fascinating meeting between the two of them. the president has been watching governor cuomo's briefing closely and responding to them in realtime.
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they're going to discuss testings. we know they disagreed on of the federal government level of involvement. you see the white house is not pushed back on governor cuomo but all the governors saying the federal government needs to take a bigger role. you saw the president saying larr larry hogan, a republican, did not know. larry hogan disputed that no, he was well aware of the labs that the white house alerted him to. some of them were not working with him. it comes to whether or not there is going to be a sufficient level of testing as you are seeing these governors and southern states start to reopen their economy. some of them are going against the white house's guidelines including south carolina where they won't admit it that they are not kidding that 14-day recommended trajectory for starting to reopen your economy. the white house was dismissing that saying they're going to let
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governors make their own decisions. we know the recommendations of the white house believes they should follow. we are going to see this come to a head on whether or not the president's claims there being enough testings that many governors across the border disputing there of basically. >> we'll see it later today. >> kaitlan collins. thank you very much. with me now to discuss is dr. sanjay gupta. >> sanjay, let me start with you. you live in georgia. eventhough the trajectory does not meet the 14-day standard. what are you looking at agree or disagree that some states are
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starting this experiment? >> i am concerned about that. the guidelines exist, that was the trajectory started to be needed in order to start down to to a baseline level of infection that can be managed. two things, one of the trajectory is not being met here in georgia. there has not been a 14-day downward trajectory. we have a graph. the graph, we have a data and as far as what we can see does not meet that trajectory. as this has been the problem all along and georgia is no different in some ways than many parts of the country, we are not testing enough. we don't have full eyes on this and we don't know the extent to which this is spread. as of yesterday, i did the calculation of 84,000 tests as of yesterday completed in georgia and about 19,000 tests came back positive. that's a 23% positive rate.
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you need to get below 10%. we are not testing enough and going down enough. it is too early. there is a lot of pressure on this governor. he thinks of it as a tough call but it is not a tough call when it comes to a public health standpoin standpoint. >> lisa, help us, you work in a unique experience that had to deal with crisis like this. this one is global. let's try to set aside politics for a moment. i want to have this conversation. the governor of new york comes today and says mr. president we got to end this now. you need to take over the supplies. get the swabs and reagents and we'll do the testing in our
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state's lab. if you go back to your planning, is that how it would have worked if we are in an obama administration or george w. bush administration. is this administration doing something different? >> look, john, we have a pandemic preparedness plan. the bush administration and the obama administration had one. the obama administration left the trump administration a pandemic play book. a step by step set of questions to ask and steps to take. the trump administration threw out that play book and they cleared it. the job of the federal government and the job of a president in a crisis and we are in a public health crisis is to support the state and local response pursuant to a national strategy. unfortunately we don't have a national strategy on testing. we tested 1% of the country of 330 million people.
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that's not where we need to be. we need to ramp up testing and it is the job of the federal government to provide those supplies to really ramp up the supply chain and instead the white house is giving governors a list of phone numbers and that's not house it is supposed to work. >> the president tweeting over night. we need to stop people coming into the united states. would you go to president obama and say that's key and that should be the top of our priority list? >> no. look, the reality is you need to focus in a homeland security kri crisis. you need to focus on facts and science and speaking credibly and clearly to the american people. the disease is here. the problem is we don't know enough about where it is. the only way to reopen the
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economy is giving the people confidence to trace and treat. we are not where we need to be on the testing and tracing. >> there are new research out of los angeles of this antibody testing, if you believe it, it suggests there are a whole lot of people who had coronavirus than the case numbers would suggest. tell us what it means. >> there has always been this knowledge that there is a lot of people who are asymptomatic meaning they never develop symptoms and they're about to develop symptoms and they don't know it yet. this is replicated in some other place. they did antibody testing in a kouc couple of days. what they found was the prevalent was 2.5 or 5.5%.
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that meant some where to 221,000 to 240,000. that's out of 5,000 cases. the multiple is two to five times a many people may have been exposed to coronavirus than we have confirmed. a lot of people out there saying i had symptoms a few weeks ago, could that be the coronavirus? i don't know. when you see results of this coming back, it gives you idea of a lot more people being exposed than we realize. >> dr. sanjay gupta. thank you and lisa. >> some governors are taking aggressive approach to reopening. governors want to be cautious. they don't want to rely on science. >> the worst thing is for us to start back and stop and we have to close again. we want to do this in a way that's consistent with what the president's guidelines are.
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>> the president's own plan as i said, they should not consider opening until they have 14-day of downward numbers. >> you have to get past the peak and all those conditions. >> the colorado governor is joining me right now. his stay-at-home order is exp e expired on sunday. governor, let's walk through. there are 50 governors, that's the magic of our republic, sometimes it becomes messy when each governors have to make decisions, do people watch and why chicago and south carolina and georgia that. where are you and what do you think is safe to do and where you are waiting on? >> nothing is challenging for any governors in our lives or any residents of the world and
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not just colorado or america in this time period. we'll go to curb side delivery for retails as indicated on monday. we have people that are in grocery stores and pharmacies like most states do. it is about what we have learned in this period is how we can do better social distancing in retails. when the stores are open for the public and that'll be the first week in may, they have the social distancing in place and they wear masks. everybody working in the store wears masks. this is a this isough period. what's sustainable behavior in june or july or august. how can people support themselves and earn livelihoods but have significant social distancing that really reduces the spread of the virus. >> you are state had to deal with food processing issues. understandably you need to get
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some juice back into your economy and wanted people back into your house. you cited grocery stores and meat packing and other places where people have no choice but to work close together. are you learning lessons from that to say as we allow more people back out, we have to either spread them out or test them or temperature checks or all the above? >> we learn a lot from that. we had a major outbreak at jbs. we lost three lives and hundreds of cases. this is a meat processing plant that was closed for two weeks. we are going to see this type of thing as more businesses come back whether it is mayor june or whatever it is, early may or late may. you will have to go in if there is an outbreak in the facility. you want to do testing and you want to make sure it is lockdown for a period of time and they can get back to as soon as they can with additional precautions
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which means they should already be wearing masks and fiber glass or other divisions helping others safe, as well as they are earning a living. >> governor cow muomo is going sit down with the president, if he can persuade the president you take charge o f the supply line. let the federal government take charge of the virals or swabs. would you accept that deal? >> you know if they tell us the federal government tell us what we are going to get and when we'll get it, we would love it. we have been in this half way area where we are acquiring our own and protective equipment task may be getting something that the federal government may not knowing or occasionally getting some. we would love to do it in an efficient way. we are states competing once
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another which is what's happening right now. >> 50 states is the match of our republic but sometimes can be confusing when everybody is watching at once. you are out of the west. the historic culture is we are this way because we don't the government to tell us what to do. have you been surprise, okay, we'll follow your lead, just give us your information. >> many of our neighboring states have not had stay-at-home orders. we have one in colorado but we all look forward to when it is no longer in in order but it is simply what we need to do to stay safe. that's why we are calling it safer at home period and it will be through may or june. we have to balance those two in a way that's safe for sustainable period of time. peo
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a new quote "hybrid system in order to maintain social distancing," under a new measure of only a maximum of 50 lawmakers will be allowed into the chambers. more than 100 others will be join via video link. all of this is happening as the u.k. government scrambles to show that it can provide health workers with enough ppe shipments of 400,000 long sleeve gowns expected to arrive on turkey on sunday still has not arrived here in the u.k. according to a recent survey by the doctors association, u.k., 47% of doctors here do not have those long sleeve gowns. clarissa ward, cnn, london. here in germany, authorities
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announced the country's biggest festiv festival, the oktoberfest value will not be taking place this year, it has been cancelled because of the coronavirus pandemic. all this comes after angela merkel announced that germany will be ramping up their effort of contact tracing to find out where the coronavirus infections in this country have originated. of course skblegermany loosen t restrictions that were put in place as far as physical distancing is concerned and allowing smaller stores to open. many people were seen in pedestrian zones and in some shops around the country and now merkel is warning people to remain vigilant and adhere to the physical distancing measures that have been put in place. germany does not want to risk another wave of coronavirus infection. cnn, berlin. here in hong kong, this city
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had some real success battling the pandemic. they only had a bit more thousand of confirmed cases. authorities made it clear to extend social distancing guidelines and loosening up a little bit letting restaurants have 50% capacity but bars and beauty as a who beauty salons and gyms will remain closed. singapore is seeing up to a
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services will be allowed to reopen on monday, april 27th. bars and nightclubs and operator of amusement parks and live venues will remained clo closed. we'll determine the best course of action for those establishmen establishments. >> that's governor brian kemp announcing his plan to reopen the state. how will this work? joining us the ceo of gold's gym and our food industry consult t consultant. the gym is a place where you finish with a weight rack and i will come in behind you. there is as general culture of cleaning up after yourself but what's going to be done in this environment to keep people apart and keeping things safe. >> thanks for having me john.
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we have been working on this for a number of weeks. you got to communicate people and you got to show them number two. we are showing them that we have the ability to clean the gym a lot more than we used to. personal trainers will be focussed on colleaguing gyms and our team members will be wearing masks and gloves and showing our members is a safe place and get them comfortable and get them back to the vieenvironment. we got to adjust and learn what we are doing. we got to make everyone feeling comfortable this is a good place to be again. >> bob, is the same thing with restaurants. you tend to be in close settings and packing and you are around the table and waiters coming over, is that part of the experience? a lot of that has to go out of the window, right? >> yeah, it really will. we'll see mandated by public health officials, cities and
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counties. it is going to affect the restaurant experience and i would certainly think that restaurants are going to be challenged on the one end we have to reassure consumers of safety. many of these changes are going to have significant operational and financial challenges for restaurants and other food service establishments. >> let me stay with you bob on the financial part of it, maybe the big chain can afford this. a lot of restaurants are a small family-run operations owing one or two. if you a if you can spread things out, who's doing the math on how many people are not able to survive this? i assume that's a big worry. >> it is a huge worry. it goes beyond capacity to the extent that the industry continues to move towards
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take-out and delivery. those are less profitable orders due to packaging and delivery services. we expect there to be dramatically increase surface cleaning cost which i think adam will agree and additional labor to do a lot of these things and reassure consumers many of whom are scared of going back to restaurants. not all of course but there is an anxiety that we all feel, going back to establishments. these are unchartered territory. >> i get the head winds. >> a lot of people who are anxious may go to the gym. you talk about responsibility and more team members and you also have to tell people going to the gym you have to be apart of the solution here and think about this clearly. how do you get through that from a staffing and instruction
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standpoint and is it just a fact of life that you know gold's gim gym on a friday night will be packed. >> it is unchartered territory. i wish we had a play book for this but we didn't. it is about social distancing. we'll have cardio equipment separated and strength equipment separated so people are separated and not too close to somebody else. we are going to have a new member code of conduct. if thmy states tell me i need t wear a mask to go to the gym, i will do so or clean after myself, i will do so. it is the members and the team members and we do have to adjust. some team members the humps will be a different until we figure out what the new normal will be.
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something is wrong. kim missed the ceremony honoring his grandfather's birthday. one of the country's biggest events of the year. our senior correspondent is with us right now. this would be a giant development if the north korean leader is in bad health or worse. >> it would, john. that day you mentioned april 15th, the biggest celebration on the north korean calendar is called the day of the sun and kim jong-un was not there. experts and officials warning to not read too much into that. the last time kim jong-un was seen on april 11th. he has been relatively visible throughout this coronavirus crisis. of course u.s. officials are close limon toing both reports as well as intelligent. one u.s. official telling cnn they are monitoring his
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intelligence. he's gravely ill. all of these latest rounds of speculations came about because of a report yesterday in an outlet from north korea. that's out of south korea run by north korean's defector. they said kim jong-un was recovering after a cardio vascular surgery on april 12th. there are extremely little visibility into north korea. the national security adviser spoke to those difficulties earlier today. take a listen. >> we are watching it closely. we'll have to see is everyone knows the north koreans don't
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put out much when it comes to their leaders. we'll keep an eye on it. >> another country that we'll keep an eye on is south korea. there is no indication of anything has changed when it comes to kim jong-un health. they said there is no unusual signs. kim jong-un is not a healthy man. he's large and he smokes and travels a lot. there are going to be these questions of succession, we know u.s. officials have reached out to north korea's expert to ask who would be a successor. one name is his sister floating to the top. it is difficult to assess what's going on with kim jong-un's health inside north korea. john. >> critical strategic mystery. alec, appreciate the reporting. we know you will stay an top of it. we'll be right back. ♪
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important breaking news especially if you work for a small business trying to stay afloat during the coronavirus pandemic. there is now a deal in place to add new money to that emergency small business loan program. let's get straight to phil matting mattingly, what do we know? >> this is what negotiators have been working on for days. chuck schumer and nancy pelosi
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and mnuchin trying to hammer out the final details trying to trade proposals and it does appear that there is a deal. there is no final text yet so that's caveat of nothing is final. the expectation at this point that there is an agreement and there will be a vote at the senate at 4:00 p.m. when they gavel into session. one of the contour is obviously $310 billion to replenish for the paycheck protection program. lawmakers have been pushing and refilling it. democrats have held out trying to add more things to the package and they gotten some of those things. this also includes $75 billion for hospitals and $25 billion for a testing regime and testing funding. this is one of the major holdups over the course of the last day or two. democrats wanted a national
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testing strategy run at the federal level. trump administration pushing for more straight strategy. where they are now with the con struck of states being lead. it is also important to know some of the concerns you heard of small business program, parts of that $310 billion will be segmented off for smaller institutions marking directly for smaller institutions trying to hit under serve communities and under bank communities as well. this is a basic contour of this agreement. this is something that's been negotiating. something that republicans are furious that's been taken this long. i appears they are there and there will be a senate vote to move forward on this and pass this, this afternoon. the house plans to vote on thursday. the entire house is going to have to come back. republicans are not going to let
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we want to show you this timeline. back in february the country was open, normal business as usual during that time of the year. in march things begin to change as the outbreak spreads. you can see a dramatic shift. by the middle of march, much of the country stayed at home. this is a look at the state. the darker you see on map, that's the higher percentage of people staying at home. you see new york is darker and colorado and out in california, they're darker. some of the southern states are a bit lighter. this is by states. this is by county here. detroit michig
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detroit, michigan, there and lighter and fewer people staying at home there. now let's take a look at foot traffic. this is the san francisco, oakland area. this is your cell phone data tracked you are out walking around. this is last year and this is now. this is new york and new jersey. this is last year high foot traffic. this is now. you see march 31st through april. you see the big drop, people are not out and about because they're staying at home. this is 2019, this is the new normal. people not going to movie theatethee theate theaters. shopping malls, spiking up in april, down. here we are right now super bowl traff traffic, down. >> this was where it was last year and this is where it is now. this big spike coming around the
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president said we have a problem. >> i am officially declaring a national emergency. two very big words. the action i am taking will open up access up to a billion dollars, very importantly, very important and a large amount of money for states and territories and localities and our shared fight against this disease. >> joining me now to discuss, a product in data science, he's crunching these numbers on stay-at-home rate foot traffic. the data is incredible and you see the drop. i am going to put it up on the screen of two others, costco, you see a spike and a huge drop and you look at starbucks, just
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a drop. nobody is out and walking about. this is essentially a compilation of cell phone data when people get out and move about. what else do you see that's interesting? >> the first thing to understand is the state is measured on average of how people are moving around. we are not able to identify individual devices or individual people. there were a couple of key findings of what we see in the data that just jumped out. march 13th seems to be a pivotal point of the country. we see 'cross the country people started staying home more and more. >> let me show i am going to put a graphic here on the screen. you categorized it as republican vote share. blue areas are people staying at
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home and red not so much. what does it tell you? >> this was a study that was done by a group of nyu and harvard and stanford. they want to know how do people stay-at-home varying with political variations. blue spots are where people stayed home the most. you will be watching this as soon as states start to re-open.
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>> some businesses were affected much more than others. >> i need to stop, sorry, we are out of time. i will bring you back to talk more about this. anderson cooper picks up our coverage right now. i am anderson cooper, thank you for joining us. this is cnn's continuous coverage of the coronavirus pandemic. a deal has been reached for second round of stimulus funding for businesses. our manu raju is joining us. what do we know of this deal? >> reporter: intervene the economy since the great depression. it could be north of $450 billion, dealing with not just small business