ningitis and swelling on her brain after she contracted disease last month. she died this past sunday. both her parents are first responders in detroit. her mom is a police officer and her father is a firefighter. her mother said that skylar was a beautiful spirit who was friendly and loving and caring and funny. she was a happy 5-year-old girl who was full of life. we remember skylar and ruben and vitalina, three lives being mourned tonight. the news continues, i'm going to hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." chris. >> anderson, thank you so much for reminding people about the human cost of this situation. i am chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." the head of the cdc has everyone repeating his warning tonight. there likely could be another covid wave this winter, and it may be worse. why are people debating the validity of this? the only reasonable question is how do we prepare right now? the push is to reopen. look, it made sense.

we all want more normal. but we know now what may be coming. the cdc head is not the first to say it. so everyone knows tonight let's push the question of whether we are dropping the hammer on prepping for what we know is likely to come, and if not, why not. and what must we start doing? we have players on the medical and political side to test on this. the key remains together as ever as one. we have to push as one for solutions to protect our families and our fates. so what do you say, let's get at it. why did robert redfield, the cdc head say something so scary? precedent with viruses like this, projections about what we see happening in and around this country right now. and as for it being maybe more

dire, the obvious reason will be the flu and covid hitting us simultaneously. so first, if you can, please get the flu vaccine when available. if it works for you, physically, obviously check with your doctor. hopefully you have the availability. if not, alert the media. this is what the cdc wants. why? god forbid anyone try to take on the flu and covid at the same time. the fewer flu cases, obviously the more capacity to deal with covid. and there likely won't be a vaccine for coronavirus, so let's do what we can. now, that's the easy part of preparing. testing, tracing, treatment. these are not just buzz words for the media and politicians. they are the line between us hiding at home or living some type of normal. next question. does the president get the urgency? you tell me.

>> if they do come back and they could come back together with heavy on the flu and much lighter on -- because i really believe we'll be able to put out the fires. it's like fires. and we've learned a lot. we've become very good at this. >> by what measure? we're making almost nothing that we need here in the united states despite the promise to bring back manufacturing as the key to making america great. we are facing this great challenge. we are not making what we need. and we almost have no plans to do differently. states keep saying they can't handle this alone. 44,000 have lost their lives to this. that number is climbing. when will we get that if tracing happens, it can't be a maybe. it has to be a must. again, this will be on the president. >> testing is good in some cases and in some cases it's not. you have governors that don't want to go all out on the testing because they think they

can do it in a different manner and do it better. >> name one governor who says testing, nah, sometimes, sometimes not. how can testing, knowledge, identification of your problem not be good? now, look, this isn't about playing gotcha with the president. there is no time for this. it's about making smart moves. and they will start or be frustrated by this president. how do we keep our families safe? the president says we got this. testing, not always what governors think. really? let's bring in the governor of new jersey. his state, he says, can't consider reopening until their testing capacity is doubled. okay. why the urgency for him. new jersey just saw its worst single day jump in deaths. the governor joins us now, phil murphy. governor, i'm sorry to meet you on a day where you have this type of sober reality, but thank

you for taking the time. >> honored to be with you, chris, and very happy you're doing better. >> i'm one of the lucky ones. my family is blessed. you're dealing with families all the time that are up against it for a variety of reasons. now, the cdc drops this big headline. it is not news to you. you have been hearing that there may be another wave when it gets cold, when we're back in packed classrooms and work. do you believe that you are where you need to be for what might come in the fall? >> i'd say categorically no, chris. we're neither there yet in terms of breaking the back of the virus which is why if you're in new jersey watching, stay home. we have made a lot of progress, but we're not there yet. secondly as you rightly suggested we need a much more national infrastructure and help in new jersey on testing, contact tracing, isolation plans

for when we do get there and we want to have that confidence to reopen. and then thirdly, as you rightfully point out, if you look at h1n1, if you look at dr. redfield's comments today, the spanish influenza, they have all got the characteristics of coming back at us again in that next season. in fact, today i toured a new field medical station in atlantic city. we may need that in the next few weeks, but frankly, it's there in case we need it six or nine months from now. i don't want to go into this again with one arm tied behind our back in terms of bed capacity, ppe, ventilators, et cetera. so we're not there yet. but we've got to, listen, hope for the best and prepare for the worst. >> right. now, just to clear something up, are you one of these governors who told the president testing sometimes. i think i might have a better way? >> no, i'm not one of those governors.

>> did anybody say that? >> i have not. i have not. and we've got the fourth most tests of any american state, so we have come a long way, but we're not remotely where we need to be. and the other piece of this, chris, as you know, it's not just the amount of tests but how quickly do you hear back? it can't be -- if we really want to have that confidence to reopen society and the economy and go into restaurants and have some sort of a new normal, you've got to find this out quickly. so it's not just numbers of tests. it's turn around. >> now, i want to take two steps down the road of hard choices. connecticut, new jersey, new york. the governors are working in concert. they want to open up marinas, parks. you are part of the cooperation, but you are not opening up your marinas. why? >> our marinas actually -- we're

status quo with our marinas. if you're a private use citizen, you're okay. we just -- we've eliminated any commercial. you can't charter. you can't rent. the restaurants and bars can't be open other than for takeout. parks are a trickier one, and that's one which would give us no joy to close those down. with the warm weather coming, we saw too much congregation including out-of-state license plates. we just can't have that. we closed our parks. i hope someday sooner than later we can hope them but we have to be careful. >> what about golf courses? >> still not open. i know new york has made a move in that direction. we may at some point down the road. but we've got to still be -- listen, i hate to be dr. no here -- and we've made an enormous amount of progress, but we've got to continue to stay home and stay away from each other. that's the only hope. we haven't plateaued yet. we still have to get to the top and come down the other side, and the only way we do that is if we keep the social distancing we're doing. >> now, interesting insight for

the audience. so here you have governor murphy. he's got lamont in connecticut, and he's got cuomo in new york. they're being aggressive about reopening things. murphy is going to pay a political price, right? wrong. look at the poll numbers that just came out from monmouth. we see this happening in states all over the place. if you believe the man or woman in charge is being straight with you, you reward their efforts. murphy's numbers just popped. he's in the 70s and not just with your own party. you know, just to be clear. 70% approvals we're seeing with many governors. but you see democrats moving up, independents moving up. even with republicans, phil murphy, you're at 45% which might as well be 160% for you in this state. >> yeah, listen, here's a couple of things that jumped out at me. i don't run things based on polling.

i never have, and i never will. we're trying to save lives, and you know that. but a couple of things jumped out at me. number one, overwhelmingly folks don't feel like they've got the confidence yet to get back into the regular swing of things. so, it's not -- i think we totally undervalue and underestimate the raw intelligence of folk who is just look at this and say listen, please give us the confidence we need. we don't have that confidence yet. secondly, there was a question they asked, do you think we've gone too far or not far enough, and for all the noise around these folks who are protesting, over two times as many people said we had not gone far enough as said that we had gone too far which really jumped out at me. >> so when you start looking at where we are right now, i've been asking these questions the last couple of days because we're five weeks in, basically, tracing that case. we are still not making the things that we need here. you guys are still playing the supply chain game.

and i know you had good meetings with the white house about figuring out how to streamline that, that you guys have been asking about literally for months. but does it bother you that we haven't found ways with the history we have www 2 and how we came together in desperate times that we really aren't doing any of that except for maybe one company that's making swabs? >> it bothers me deeply. i mean, i've been on the phone for six or eight weeks, if not longer, on both knees begging folks from other countries to either sell us or give us personal protective equipment or ventilators. we're the united states of america. i really believe with all my heart the greatest nation on the face of the earth. we've got to make this stuff ourselves. the fact that we have to go outside of our country to get it is completely galling and this should be a national wake up call, not just in new jersey but around our country to never live through this again. >> well, it's all going to be about preparation.

all the experts say if we can handle this wave that comes, which obviously will come at a horrible time, right governor, because there will be people just starting to flex their muscles of getting back to normal. then that will be the measure of how it looks for us for the next year. as always, governor, we are here to be a platform for you to be able to make a case to your citizens as well as people in the country about what's happening, what you need, what's the reality on the ground. governor, best of health to you and best of luck to the state. >> thank you, chris, so much, and again, same to you. >> all right. god bless. take care. all right. now, you know that this supposed coronavirus cure called hydroxychloroquine or deoxyhydroxychloroquine, the president had been hyping it. he had been hearing great things, he said. it sent people flying out to get it. couldn't find it. antimalarial drug also used for lupus sometimes.

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i just hope that hydroxychloroquine wins. what do you have to lose? i'll say it again. what do you have to lose? take it. if this drug works, it will be not a game changer because that's not a nice enough term. it will be wonderful. it will be so beautiful. >> it's a big if. you know, it makes me wonder if the president was telling his personal friends the same thing because i know there are a lot of people around him who were saying be careful with this

drug, that there are unintended consequences for people, that there are interactions you got to be careful about, but he never said any of that. so people ran out, anecdotes spread, you got to get the hydroxychloroquine. i had people telling me that all the time, so much so that the stuff became tough to find. now the question is i know it faded. why? what does science say? study after study including a new one from the va's medical centers are showing that hydroxychloroquine is not a miracle drug. dr. sanjay gupta joins us right now. i want to go through the study. but let's start with the headline, but let's reverse it sanjay. i am not wowed by what the cdc director said. i believe you've heard this many times. i believe you've shared this several times, and i believe the real story should be everybody knows, sanjay, what's going to come in the fall. and if we don't prepare now, we will not be able to prepare

then. your take? >> yeah, i think we've been looking at this as a very short-term proposition. maybe that's the way human beings are wired. it's harder for us to look off into the distance. but we've been saying it all along, chris. you and i have had conversations about this. the virus isn't going anywhere. it's a contagious virus. it's spreading from person to person. it's a fairly lethal virus and until there's a vaccine it's going to continue to be around. the reason we've had progress is because we're doing something that's unprecedented in this country and the world really for so many people to be staying at home it's made a difference. the problem is that once we stop doing that, the virus is still out there in the community. so, when dr. redfield talks about a second wave, he has said this before -- couple points. if we look at this graphic i want to show you something going back 100 years to 1918 and the spanish flu and what happened

there. that first peak was the spring of 1918, march 1918, relatively small peak. chris, the second peak there, the biggest one. there are three waves. part of the issue then, part of the issue now, is that it coincides with the flu season. and the flu is a bad problem. we've talked about that since the beginning. you get them compounded one on the other and that can create a big problem. we've got to be ready. we've got to be vigilant. we've probably got to stay at home again during that time period because it makes a difference for not only coronavirus but also the flu. it can make a significance difference there. all the ventilators, we're likely going to need those ventilators. maybe not right now but we are still going to need those ventilators. this is going to be a little bit of a long haul but we can absolutely get through it because i think we understand it better as long as we act on that understanding. >> yeah, that's the key part is what you just said. if you drop the hammer and up

production -- and i believe you have to start making it here in the united states because we're not the only ones who are going to get hit. everybody along that equatorial line that we're on around the line is going to get hit, that shares a season. and the supply chain will be strained once again. and if we're not making it here and dedicating it to our own needs, won't that be a problem? >> yeah. no question. everybody on the planet wants the same thing. that is the nature of a pandemic. most of us thankfully have never experienced something like this before. but that is the nature of it. so, we know now. and there was some places that we got caught short with regard to testing, with regard to personal protective equipment. we know that. we've talked about it a lot. but we have a chance to sort of make sure that that doesn't happen to us again. i showed the graph of the spanish flu not to alarm people but to prepare people. i mean, we know. i've been really encouraged by

the stay-at-home order impacts. i mean, not only has coronavirus gone down but flu is probably fewer numbers now this year as compared to years past because of the stay at home as well. i don't enjoy it. i know you don't enjoy it. you were stuck in your basement for a while. this is something that woshs. maybe we have to do it again. maybe it's not constant. maybe we do it intermittently, but we're going to be at this for a while. >> your governor said turns out you can be contagious if you're asymptomatic which my 10-year-old knew two months ago. he went from that to a few weeks later says we got this. we're ready to reopen. is anything changing there to help boost your confidence about what's about to come in 72 hours? >> no. chris, and i don't want to

equivocate or waffle on this. we closed late, opening early, and they're both problems. we are clear that the virus is still out there. we are clear that we are not ready. it is clear what the guidelines are and that we haven't met them. and it's also clear that a lot of people, chris, are frightened about this. they're frightened to go out, so you open up businesses. but people are not likely to go. is that doorknob safe? did that person get tested? is this place sterile liezed? what about the ventilation. all these questions are coming up for people because people are understandably worried. people are worried even if i stay healthy, what if i take it and get somebody else sick. i would feel awful about that. i would feel terrible if that happened. that's the sort of decisions that are being forced in the state. and i just find it hard to be care and treatment ab charitable about this. i understand the governor has concerns about small businesses. but who's going to go to small businesses? it's a bad idea.

every public health official in the country said so. ambassador birx who is very polite said this, we put out guidelines. we try to use the clearest data possible. i don't see how you could cut somebody's hair or be in a nail salon and physically distance. maybe they have creative ideas i'm not familiar with. she's being nice. what she should have said is you can't do this. these are guidelines, i get it, you can't mandate these things. people can get infected that otherwise wouldn't. people can be hospitalized that otherwise wouldn't. and sadly people may die. i'm not an alarmist. but that's the reality. mother nature is showing us something right now. we have to behave as if we have the virus so we don't get sick and we don't get other people sick. >> and look we have to say you know who hasn't said anything about georgia reopening in terms of exercising caution is the president. this is about politics. it is persuasive. people want to reopen, sanjay.

you hear it your house. i hear it in mine. i love the thought of it. i can't wait. it makes you want to take risks because man, are we sick of it? then you turn to the what's the alternative. the president was saying i'm a big fan of hydroxychloroquine. you know, chloroquine, another variety of the basket of the drug, take it. what's the worst thing? so, i ask you on a regular basis. i wanted to take it. you kept saying to me, no, no, no, man. you're having a depressed immune response. this is a drug for inflammation based off hyperimmune response. be careful. it's not for you. you've got to wait for the studies. what have the studies told us? >> the studies have not been encouraging chris. we need the big study out of your brother's state because they've got 10,000 doses and those are part of the clinical trial. that data we want to look at. we've heard from brazil, france,

sweden. all those places have basically said potential toxicity. we're recommended hospitals don't administer this anymore. and now the study from the va here in the united states, still a small study, non-randomized, non-peer reviewed and that's important to say. whenever we talk about this, we want it -- whether it's good or bad, and everybody wants something good. but whether it's good or bad we should be clear about what we're talking about here. this needs to be reviewed carefully. 368 patients in the study. you had the people who just got the hydroxychloroquine. 97 of them had a fatality rate, chris, of 22%. the people who got the -- those are the people that got the azigt myosin. people who just got the hydroxychloroquine was close to 27%. those who got neither, death rate close to 11%. i reiterate small study.

the evidence is not compelling. three countries saying don't give it, the va out of this country. i would love to see a positive study on this medication or another one because that would be significant when we talk about the waves that's going to happen in the fall. we're not there yet. there will be data that clarifies this, gives us conclusions on the medications. hopefully the conclusions will be this one works. it doesn't cause unnecessary side effects and it's going to help us get out of this mess. we're just not there yet. >> and until we have that, we better be damn sure we can test, trace, and treat. and if we can't do that -- just to be clear. i know sanjay, you agree with me -- nobody is saying testing is good sometimes that it's a maybe and there's a better way. you've got to test to know what we have and we've got to be ready. sanjay gupta, thank you for giving the audience what it needs to hear and thank you for

being my friend. >> you got it, buddy. glad you're feeling better. >> thank you. all right. georgia, that's where sanjay lives obviously. that's the state in question. in 72 hours they're going to open up. we're going to go there live because this experiment is going to be watched by this nation. 72 hours they're going to reopen many businesses there again. is the mayor of a city near atlanta ready to confront the potential consequences? let's talk to them. next. (slow music plays) ♪ (laughter) ♪ ♪ ♪

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all right. look, as we all know, no matter where you live, the response to this pandemic is crushing the economy. people like the idea of reopening, why, because our lives are being stifled. we want to get our jobs back if we've lost them. we want to run our businesses. we want to get our lives going again.

but polls also show that people do not like the idea of reopening if the tradeoff is maybe being exposed to the virus. all right. a strong majority says do not do this if you can't do it right. so why the rush to reopen in georgia? for context, a state that was late to the game, the curve there is not as flat as it is in other states that are being more cautious. let's discuss. rusty paul is the mayor of sandy springs which is just outside atlanta. mr. mayor, thank you for joining us on "prime time." >> chris, thank you for having me. >> so you look good. you don't look like you need a haircut, but are you going to run out when the haircut places reopen? are you thinking about maybe a tattoo to mark the situation you've lived through? are you going to get back out there as soon as you can? >> i've invested in a second cut

so i'm fine. no, you know, we've got to be very cautious about how we do this. we're still waiting on a little bit of guidance from the state to know how we're going to enforce all the different things that are going to be required. but we're going to implement it as safely and as conscientiously as we possibly can in sandy springs. and health and safety of our citizens is going to be paramount. a lot of businesses have been open through this. we've done the social distance thing. i have had to stand in line outside grocery stores wearing my mask, wearing my gloves as we waited to get in, and they allowed only so many people in the grocery store. so if we do it right and we maintain the social distancing, you know, we can have an impact. now, you know, should everything be open? i don't know. but i can tell you this, the market is going to determine whether this works or not because if customers don't show up, you can open your business all day long, and nobody's going to be there. >> right. >> and so it's going -- we're

going to find out what the level of trust that the public have in this process. but i can tell you i've seen it in our community, and as long as people follow the rules and as long as the retailers sanitize the counters and everything we've been able to manage it and control it so far. >> right. except that you've been careful about which businesses to do and it's been limited exposure, so it's about scale obviously. and what do you make of the concern/criticism that georgia was late to the game, the curve is not as flat as it could be, this governor went -- governor kemp who was invited on the show and he always is -- at the beginning of it said turns out you can be contagious even if you're asymptomatic to now just a few weeks later saying you're ready to reopen, that there's not the kind of planning, not the kind of basis to pull this off in a way that won't be

dangerous. >> i know what i'm responsible for, and that is to make sure that we do this right, we do it safely, we do it conscientiously. i know the governor. he's a friend of mine. i talked to him about two weeks ago, one on one conversation. i know where his heart is. when you're a mayor and you're a governor, these problems have faces. i knew these people. these were people i recruited into my community to bring their businesses there. and it's a very difficult challenge to -- i went in today. like you, i've been in quarantine for the last 14 days. i went into my office for the first tomb in 2 1/2 weeks and i had a stack of letters this high that companies are required to notify us when they lay people off. there were literally thousands of jobs laying there of people that can't pay their bills.

these are people whose life savings and life work is being sacrificed. so, if we can figure out this balance -- and i think that's what the governor's trying to do -- is let's try to find the balance that allows the economy going while we still continue to protect the people in our communities and making sure that priority number one is public health and public safety. >> you said you spoke to the governor a couple of weeks ago. but am i correct that he did not talk to you about this move like he did not talk to the other mayors of even bigger cities like augusta and atlanta? >> i doubt seriously your brother calls every mayor in new york when he makes a decision either. so, you know -- >> well, i don't know when it's something like this. this is a pretty big move. because he also said you can't undo it. you can't even change it from what he makes it. so, you know, he's putting a big

thumbprint on this. you think you would talk to the people in charge of the localities. >> when we started this process, my city had a set of rules, the next door city had another set of rules. we were trying to manage this on the local basis, and the governor was giving us flexibility to manage it on the local basis. what we come to realize was there's such a patchwork of requirements that we needed this kind of statewide step. and once we convinced him that we did need that, he stepped in. i don't know that georgia was late. there was a lot of stuff going on at the local level with mayors and county commissioners trying to manage it. >> statewide? >> that's what we always want. we want that local control, and he was giving it to us. >> now, he had uniform standards but the standard is to reopen and you don't have a say in it. but the voters will decide that

kind of question. here's my concern with you. you are 100% right that the pain is personal. anybody who's watching reality around them knows that. my concern is you make this move to political risk. but you're not going to know the reality for several weeks because it takes time for people to be exposed, to get sick, to be hospitalized. and if the numbers jump a few weeks from now, are you worried about what that looks like for your community? and you? >> i'm always worried about it. but let me go back to the original aspect of your question, the politics. i hope to goodness nobody's allowing political decisions to drive this process. if it's not being driven by science and good, solid information, then the politics don't work. good politics is good policy. if you have the right policy, the politics will work out. >> absolutely understood, mr. mayor. and look, i would be happy to

review any kind of plan the governor had that shows he has the testing things, he's figured out ways to do it. it's just not in there. that's why it raises the concern about it will happen when it happens. we want people to be healthy. we want people to get back to work and do so in a healthy way. we'll see how this goes. the nation is watching. mr. mayor, i wish you well. i hope you are in good health. and we are here as an open forum for you to discuss how this goes. >> i appreciate you allowing me this opportunity. once this is all over, i hope your viewers come to visit sandy springs. >> i can't wait to meet you in person. we'll figure out how to say hello when this happens. you've recovered. thank god you're healthy. >> thank you. it's a dicey proposition. people want to reopen. that's not a surprise. that's how it is in my house and your house. how do you do it?

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all right. you've probably heard this before but people from brooklyn are tough. but this story, i've got to tell you, i've never heard another one like it. now, you're going to hear this name and the story attached to it. hopefully it'll stay with you. so, she's pregnant, tests positive for coronavirus late last month. rushed to the hospital. winds up on a ventilator. why? obviously she had respiratory issues. doctors had to act fast to save her and the baby. so, listen to this. imagine this if you're in the baby game, if you have a family. she's pregnant. they place her in a coma and then perform an emergency

c-section very premature. and god bless good news. the baby girl is born just over one pound. zion is her name. isn't that great? talk about the need for a promised land. born on april 1st, but no joke. 26 weeks premature. her mom, jo hannah is now out of the hospital and able to join us. what a blessing. thank god you are well and we know that the baby is fighting her way to better health. how are you doing? >> taking it day by day, baby steps. baby steps. >> can you believe what you've been through? >> still processing it actually. i'm blessed to have a wonderful family that is surrounding me

now. yeah. >> you've got a lot of friends, a lot of people who care about you. transparency, transparency. a good friend of mine, katelyn, said you've got to hear this story, how people came together to help you and the help you need now. and i was just blown away. so, people care about you. if you can't get emotional about this, why even be alive? you are alive. the baby is good. people love you. and better days are ahead. so, tell us this -- the crying part's over. thank god the baby is here and she's doing well and you know you have people who have their arms around you in every possible way that they can except actually touching you because we're in a stay-at-home order. let me lighten your mood a little bit. when you found out that you're pregnant and you have the virus, what was your reaction?

>> honestly, i wasn't -- i wasn't so scared because at the time they weren't saying that it's affecting pregnant ladies as much. it was more like elder will i and all that. so, i thought i was going to have kind of like a flu type of thing. so, i pretty much self-quarantined for, like, a week, and that's when i just couldn't take it anymore. halfway through the quarantine part i was like wait, this is really -- this is really affecting me. and i understand people don't have much information about it, so you can't really go by much. but i just know i felt sick and i was really just trying to take care of myself. >> so, when you decide you have

to go into the hospital -- >> hm? >> so, when you decide you have to go into the hospital, how do they explain to you, or did they explain to you, listen, we're going to have to put you in a we're going to have to put you in a coma and deliver this baby early. how much of that were you aware of? help us with that. >> when i went -- pretty much that day i went to the hospital it was explained to me because they had to put the tubes in. so pretty much it was told to me right away, and that's when i called my family and i told them -- i told them, hey, i'm going under, and that was the last that they heard of me. so it happened really quickly. i was freaking out, of course, when the doctor told me that. and that's -- that's all.

and then after that, i was pretty much in an induced coma and, you know, holding on. >> so what is it like to wake up and have a baby? when you were not expecting it to go that way, and obviously all the built-in concerns about how early it was. what was it like? what do you remember about coming to? >> what i remember coming to was just thinking, my baby, where's my baby? they did show me a webcam of the baby when i did come to. but that's all i remember thinking. i was like, okay, where's my baby? because it just feels weird. one day -- one minute you're pregnant and then you wake up and you're not. i was like, oh, my god, what's going on? so it takes a while to kind of,

like, grasp things, you know? and the nurses were nice enough to show me the baby through the webcam and actually also a video of my nephew to uplift my spirits while i was in the hospital. >> well -- >> so that's what i remember. >> just to let people know how she is. she was born just over 1 pound, right? 1 pound and 12 or 13 ounces, something like that. 26 weeks early but no covid. she's in there now but she's making progress. you are -- >> she's making progress. >> you are home, but you have some issues, so you're dealing with a big -- a big recovery plan now, right? >> i'm dealing with a huge recovery plan. takes me a bit to do things because my lung, my heart, my c-section is not no ordinary c-section. i have, like, a big wound there

that has to be taken care of, which actually i'm so blessed that no one will see me. it's just a bunch of like, you know, insurance issues and -- >> mm-hmm. >> in connecticut where i have family, i can't be in brooklyn right now or, like, jersey or anywhere near congestion. >> right. >> i'm fragile right now, you know? as my baby is. >> right. >> so -- >> can you see the baby? are you allowed to visit with her now? >> no, not at all. not at all. the baby and i will be pretty much reunited on her due date, which is july 8th. >> how are you dealing with that? >> with, you know, dealing with, like, my c-section opening, my physical therapy. i mean, i can at least sit up, right? that's good. but i've noticed it's -- you know, there's post-partum. there's trying to, like, understand i am a mom.

she's just not here, you know? it's so much emotions. i just can't put it into words. it's just so much emotions. yeah. >> all people have to do is look at you and imagine what they'd do in your position. thank god. look, this is not the road anybody would have chosen, but hopefully zion keeps getting stronger and so do you. and it is weird to be sure. >> thank you. >> these are weird days, but it is great to hear about a happy ending and we very much want to stay in touch. the big reason i wanted to do this story is i know you're up against it. i know that this phase hurt you economically, took away your ability to make money right now and i know your needs are very great. i'm going to put out on my social media the gofundme page that you have for you and the baby and the push to kind of give you what you need to reunite. thank you for sharing your story. thank you for fighting the way you did against such incredible odds and letting us know, johana, that we can make it through anything.

god bless. and i look forward to the update, okay? >> thank you so much. thank you. >> don't cry. you'll make me cry. i'm going to get a fever. i just got over it. >> okay. i'll stop crying. >> god bless and be well. save your strength. we'll check in soon. i told you, you ever heard a story like that? have you ever heard anything like that? can you imagine being at that point in a pregnancy and having that kind of experience of worrying about the baby? you can't see the baby. the gofundme page will be on my social media. if you want to help, you can help. i know a lot of you are always asking me, how do we get involved, who needs help? this is one more way. okay? there's a lot of need out there. so this is part of a light in the situation. it was dark but now it's light, zion is here. there is light shining out in all different directions all the time. the brightest part of the day

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