>> people are saying it may not be a good idea -- >> polls would be open? >> you think the board of election can carry this out with their problems? >> life is options. you have to watch it. there are only two options. either people go to the polls or people vote by absentee. there is no other way to do it, right? we are saying you have both options. you can go to the polls or you can do absentee. i don't know what else anyone can expect anyone to do. what is the other option? people on the left and right are unhappy, what do they recommend?

>> results would not be valid. >> if you are against absentees then everybody goes to the polls. is that what you like? no, because they don't want to wait in line and you come in contact with a lot of people. >> are you sending an absentee application or actual ballot? >> absentee application. article 2 allows for an absentee voting process, two provisions one if you are out of the county and the other numeratenumerated by the legislature. so we looked at this closely and i know some people felt that we

should send everybody an actual ballot to vote, we don't think that's in our constitutional rights to create a mailing and voting system otherwise that does not exist. what we are saying is everyone is going to get an application with postage. this is easy. every registered voter gets one and they can fill it out and send it back in. to the question whether the board of elections can handle it. the provision of governor did a couple of weeks ago allowing everyone to do this but then you would have to download the ballot. all we are doing is making it convenience so people don't have access to internet and don't want the leave their home because of their fear of covid are able too get an application sent to them and early executive order. >> how smart is that? >> millions of new yorkers have rent ds due and mortgages due?

have you given any thought to extend the three months so people don't have to face a large payment? >> we are looking at that right now. whether we do at the end o f f s program. we are looking into options. >> we are three weeks away for when the order to be done. parents are figuring out when kids are going back to school. can we get a timetable? >> about one week. >> on the rent free and new york city that's controlled by the rent board in your city and entirely controlled by new york city, i know mayor deblasio had been calling them to do the rent freeze. >> that's something we are looking at. that's something i know the mayor wants done. >> it is an issue of new york

city. >> when may a decision be made? >> what we do on our orders that are going to expire, we have a couple of weeks still. we'll give people timely notice, we'll look at it on our watch. >> has there been any help with pregnant women giving birth during the pandemic. how does that work? >> you will be seeing something in the next couple of days. we have been meeting everyday of this week. >> we are looking at that now. we don't have a decision now. i will tell you the truth. the asset of the federal

government, i have been talking about this for how long? two months. how can you have a federal government in a position where they don't provide funding to states government and local government. small businesses and airlines and i see large corporations have been taken money from the government program and they're not funding states and local. when you don't fund states and local, you know who you don't fund? police, fire, school officials. what's the theory of funding large cooperatirporations and n firefighters and not hotel care wo care -- healthcare workers and te teachers. i said to our senators schumer

and gillibrand, don't pass this past bill that they just did unless you are states and local funding because they're not going to do it. don't worry, don't worry. they're not going to do it. as soon as the senate acts, mcconnell turns around and says oh, i am not going to do it. the states should declare bankruptcy. bail out to the blue states. again, the most un-american and uncharitable, ugly statement of all times. yes, new york had more coronavirus cases than kentucky. you know why? the flights from europe land in new york. the flights were not landing in kentucky. that's why we have coronavirus cases. that's what the researchers now found two months later.

the virus from china from europe got on the plane and came here. by the way, the virus got on the plane and went to china and came here. the european flights landed here, that's why new york has the coronavirus case. bail out new york, you are not bailing out new york. new york has bailed you out every year, every year it bailed you out. mitch mcconnell is a taker, not a giver. new yorker is a state of givers. we put more money in the federal pot every year with the number one state in donating to the federal pot. number one. kentucky is the number three state in taking from the federal pot. they take out more money from

the federal pot than they put in every year. every year. this is america, states with federal pot, you put in with what you can and the states that needed take it. okay. for every year new york was the number one donor state putting in more money than we take out. putting in more money than anyone else. and taking out less, number one donor state. kentucky every year was the number three state that took out more than they put in. so we were putting money into the pot. they were taking our dollars out of the pot and now he wants to look at new york and say we are bailing you out? you are bailing us out?

just give me my money back, senator. just give me my money back. i mean it is just ridiculous. they should declare bankruptcy. okay, senator, pass the bill that authorizes states to declare bankruptcy. sign the bill mr. president. economy is coming back, we are doing great, crank up demands, stock market wants to take off. good, pass the bill allowing states to be bankrupt and let's watch how the stock market takes off. i got great news about our economic resilience. >> the governor andrew cuomo there passionate at the end and anger at mitch mcconnell and narina daring him to pass the bill to pass the bankruptcy bill. maybe states can declare bankruptcy instead of getting billions from the federal government. quite telling if you have been with us listening to cuomo on a

dai daily basis. his state is on the downside of the curve, much less of the urgency of the day. weeks ago this would have been about masks or ppe or overwhelming emergency rooms. the governor is focusing on the fights to come down the road and not the urgency of the day. how does he fight for what he believes? and other issues about voting the governor brings up as well. it is much less about the urgency of the day, much more about the path ahead. with me to share their expertise and insight, the chief of infectious disease at the university of oklahoma. dr. rob and dana bash. i want to start with you on that point. these are gripping events everyday from the governor of

new york because his state is and has been the epicenter but the shift in recent days is quite remarkable and no good news but it does reflect the progress in new york as the country is beginning to have this debate about coronavirus to think about reopening. the governor says intubation are down and rush is down and his time and energy on the fight ahead including the stand up with washington. he wants the president to rebuff mitch mcconnell to pass a lot of federal money to help the state getting through this. he had a chance to ask about the president's ridiculous comment, should people ingest or inject themselves with this, governor passed and he said that's not my background or education.

he passed the health director because he wants that money. >> i was watching this and thinking this is a high-stake of truth or dare. tl da the dare was the words we used on mitch mcconnell. i dare you to pass this bill, mcconnell. shortly before you are going up for reelection and the hope at the white house of course and andrew cuomo understands that by the time november gets closer the economy will be doing better. so he knows, he's very angry at mitch mcconnell and he wants to make it very clear in a strategic way. very transparent about that. the fact that he punted on the president on the lysol thing was no wo r thrthy but he did it in

careful way. he said it to his health doctor, you say it. he allowed him to do it in a polite way. they're on the right side of science without making the president angry at the time the governor clearly wants him on this side on this theory for the next round of money and the threat that senator majority leader made about blue states to declare bankruptcy. >> governor cuomo wants his money and he knows the president does watch those briefings. let's move to the medical question. beginning in georgia most aggressively are testing the theory. have we corral the virus enough to start to go back to work.

new york has the most cases and he says it is a week away from deciding whether to extend or start to change, his stay-at-home order expires on may 15th. the governor knows he has a national platform at these briefings. he knows salons and tattoo parlors and other businesses are opening today. he says when it comes to new york, he's going to be cautious. >> if you say we are done, let's reopen. just start business tomorrow. let's go. what happens? that's what happens. all the progress we made is gone and all experts will say not only the virus spread increase but it increases to a higher point than we had increased the

first time. >> some governors are saying i am going to go more aggressive than that. he says caution, the governor of georgia says let's go. >> public health officials and the president says he strongly disagrees with governor kemp's decision and dr. fauci says i would advise him not to do it. you need to have adequate testing in placement those things are not meeting the criteria in georgia. i don't know what else we can tell you to do here. the things you are thinking about opening are places where

you can't really physically distance, hair salons and tattoo parlors and massage parlors and all that sort of stuff. it does not make sense from a public standpoint at all. here in georgia, there is economic pressure and people want to open up their businesses again. i live here. i spent time with folks and i talked to them and what you hear that a lot of places are not going to open despite the fact that they can and the customers some will certainly go out but many are going to stay home. they don't have the confidence and the door handle contaminated or that person is tested or is this place disinfected of ventilation is adequate. whatever that question may be. we'll get to that point and maybe two timelines. we are talking about acute timeline in terms of reopening some stuff and so a more chronic

timeline as we get into the months again. we are not there yet. you call an experiment? people will refer it to guinea pigs. no one wants to be referred to that way. it is the reality. >> part of the calculation is what can you sustain as governor cuomo laying through his taking he was talking about yes, the death toll is coming down but it is still 400 a day which is still horrific. intubation is down. the thing he keeps on mentioning is you still have 1200 or 1300 a day of new diagnoses of covid across the u.s. one of the question every governor have to make have i corral this virus and contain this virus enough so when we get a spike when people start to go back to work, are we in a place where my hospital system can

handle it? when you see cases in new york for all the progress they have made, what does it tell you about the challenge? >> you do have to take a judicious and cautious approach. i have to ascertain what's in the healthcare system and what can you support. it pointed out of the economic hardships are very real. we need to start moving towards opening up the economy and society. you have to do it in a safe way and which you have testing available and public health has to be able to identify cases and do the contact tracing and healthcare system does have to be able to take care of the people will continue to get sick. this is obvious and we do need to be careful with this. >> everybody stay with us. one of the ways we get advise is we watch the united states everyday. the president always makes it clear that americans should get their coronavirus treatment

advise from their doctors and not from him. the president is not shy about offering his idea and his suggestions. his latest is absurd and dangerous. how dangerous? kaitlan collins is joining us now. the president talking about the virtue of sunlight but the therapeutic of disinfection. >> reporter: he was talking about how basically they found results that ultra-violet lights can kill disinfectants in the air. the president also pondered the idea about disinfected. listen to his full comment that he made after he got this presentation yesterday from the

dhs official. >> suppose it hits the body whether it is ultra-violet or powerful light. i think you said that has not been injected, you brought the light into the body of which you can do through the skin or some other way and i think you said you are go i think to test that too. it sounds interesting. i see the disinfectsant going ot in a minute. is there a way we can do something like that about injection inside or in between because you see it gets in the lungs. it would be interesting to check. >> dhs officials there looking at this as a treatment is not something they do. the president was pushing this idea. after he did that, you saw attorneys and doctors and lawmakers came out and maker of

lysol say you should not ingest this infected. they have warning outside of the product. the white house put out a statement from the press secretary saying the president has always said people should consult with their doctors instead of accusing the media of taking the president's out of his words out of context. and you can see what he said there yourself. >> yes, kaitlan collins, thank you. >> the president has done this in case of hydroxychloroquine and the study suggests caution and some people suggest it is a bad idea. when the president says and his aid says doctors should look at this. he was not saying americans at home should go out and buy lysol and make some kind of a cocktail or whatever. do you see reverbrivat iouion.r

>> of course, we urge responsibility before taking any rash action. the virus is sensitive to disinfecta disinfectant. reuse radiation to process our ppe and personal protective equipment. this is clearly not designed to be ingested or injected or applying to people's skin or any human type of application. so you know people would be ill advised to ingest any of these disinfectan disinfectants. as we get into the warmer months with sunshine, we may find it has impact of the coronavirus that it will not be as long

survived in the environment so that's a hopeful possible sign but again nobody should be out using these disinfectants either ingesting them or injecting them. that would be dangerous. >> sanjay gupta, you can see in the face of dr. birx when the president was saying he at times make his own scientist very uncomfortable. he at times make his scientists, she was krcringing. let's listen. >> no, i would not recommend internal ingestion of disinfe disinfectant. >> the idea of injecting this disinfectant, those questions

are not getting asked. there is no merit to it. you can say that does not work, right? >> and i think sanjay that's exactly what a patient would say to a doctor and that would be the answer of medical experts to anybody who answer that question. >> it does not work. >> here is my question to you sanjay and this is what gets me frustrated. when the president makes these suggestions or floats these theories and we are in the middle of the pandemic and people are watching around the world wondering is it safe to go back to work? what's the guidelines and what's the test, how do we strike this delicate balance. the president of the united states says something like this, we have to fact-check it and we take time on that that could be better spent on the actual science of where we are. >> it is very frustrating, john.

there is an important topic to discuss and important development that makes it sidelines because this becomes the topic for a period of time. you know and i think we can't equivocate on this stuff. we have to be blunt on this stuff. it does start to take hold in some way. what was striking to me that it was caught in this idea that patients are going to their doctors and asking about this. patients are going to their doctors and asking if they should inject this infectant in themselves. everybody knows that you don't do that. you are creating an issue only to have it not down. and you are right put the scientists on the spot. dr. hahn was uncomfortable for him and dr. birx, it was uncomfortable for her as well. and you know the idea that somehow we have to then go out

and explain to people this is not the case it is a waste of time and it is ridiculous and could be harmful. no studies need to be done. hey, we want to study this. it sounds reasonable. no. we don't need to study it because we know the answer. by the way, to study something like that means you would inject some people and not inject other people and compare that. so you can inject people so you can study this? it does not need to be done. >> i have to call around and ask the president's team why did he do that and what did he mean? >> this is one that's very hard to get. that's the honest truth. there has been real conversations inside the task force meeting or if not inside

the task force meeting or outside that the president was having. he gets information from people behind the scenes but also people who call him on the phone or a tweet he sees or something he sees in activiconservative m then he'll tweet it or blurt it out. it is entirely possible that's what happens in this situation. the bigger question is whether he understands and not just how dangerous it is but you know the last thing any president wants to be is a laughing stock. this is profvided humor for people to say can you believe the president of the united states did this? if it was not so dangerous or scary, it would be fine. >> again potentially from

briefing, the possibility that the summer makes it less horrible to regroup and plan for a potential second wave, the president says this is something he can't control. he wants to control everything so he takes that information and brings it to something else. dr. rupp and dana bash and dr. sanjay gupta. thank you. we'll be right back. coming up the testing on the frontier.

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that we have what it takes to do that. we are getting better and better at it as the weeks go by. we are not in a situation where we say where we want to be with regards to testing. >> dr. fauci was not asked at thursday's white house briefing. the president was. >> i think we are doing a great job on testing. i don't agree that he said that. >> he's dealing with this testing question. san francisco is offering testing and other residents who do not have access to testing. thank you so much for joining us today. take us through your experience through san francisco. what are you learning as you get

into the space about the coronavirus and has there been any big surprise as you start to look at the testing. >> sure, john, thank you for having me. about a month and a half ago, we mobilize the company to try to help address the crisis that we are all facing collectively. i think there is been too many efforts that we have been working on here and the first one has been around and talked about the capacity challenge we are having and at the beginning one thing we saw that especially bringing americans back to work, we need to have a lot of testing much more discussed previously. thinking about how we bring on labs onto the system that can do tens or hundreds of thousands of tests a day. the second part in addition to making testing assessable or

making the capacity to the system is actually making the testing assessable and that's our contest for work for the city of san francisco to work up with local communities to set up programs so the tests can make it to the people that we need it the most. we set up a program to make tests assessable forefront line workers in the city. this week expanding to all front line personnel and independent to whether their city employees or not. >> one of the questions people keep on asking and i am a late person and i am learning everyday in this horrific story, we learn everyday and one of the questions is how blind are we and how many people walk around who have covid-19 who have no sympt symptoms or they think they have a cold. >> how the virus is spreading among the homeless population. what will they did not expect to

find was half the people tested positive did not feel sick at all. last week researchers in chelsea found a similar trend of 200 passengers agreed to have their blood tested and 63 tested positive for antibodies that suggested they had been sick with covid-19 and of those 25 said they had not felt sick at all. >> it looks like there are two challenges on that front. like you mention a lot of people could be infected a but have no symptoms. we are thinking of reopening the economy and etcetera, the reality is we'll be entering for

every large ceos, they're thinking of reentering their work force. that's the reality that we have to live with for quite a while. the question that we have is one of the measures that can minimize the spread with that reality. the two main strategies are around social isolation and putting in measure and operationally and how do we minimize exposure. >> getting the handle of the people who are infected but are not exhibiting symptoms. we don't know what that number is and to your point it seems likely that maybe three quarters of all infections are happening from people who are not currently exhibiting symptoms which means we have to test aggressively. >> that's a wild number. how is somebody watching at heem and getting ready the next two

or three fo-four weeks they'll getting back to work. for you to come back to work, you will be tested, you are negative, you will go back to work. is that it in your view unless you develop symptoms or the new normal is periodic testing. how is this going to work? >> we have been spending a number of major employers working through this and approach to reenter the work force as safely as possible. how we have protocols to minimize the effect. one of the interesting or main challenges of this is

implementing all of the logistics so if you are an employee, you want to come back to work and feel safe, you want to have access to low friction testing so it does not take a lot of your time, you can submit a sample and register and the results come back online, automatically you know and you want to know a follow-up and there is a colleague that has a positive and that the employer will have the appropriate follow-up. it is a technology solution in terms of having a service that really connects the data and keking bake connecting into the system so it is not guila multi-day window w you have the reaction. >> laraki, thank you. appreciate it. we really appreciate that. >> thanks for having me. >> governors are calling the

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the reopening of america will be like a patch work. 50 states governors are making decisions of where to go.

we see governors are testing the limits of reopening. you see the map there. many other governors say not so fast. >> we are not there yet. we are not there yet. the house is still on fire. >> getting back on normal won't be light. we want to do it in a careful way and we want to do it in a way of confidence with people. >> we can spread the virus. >> we worked too hard to throw away that great work. >> we'll take slow and incremental and thoughtful steps. >> we are not out of the woods yet. >> jeff zeleny is joining me now. he's looking at the complicated relationships between the governors and the president. >> there is no question about it.

georgia, brian kemp, a close ally of the president, in oklahoma there is no rules. what will we are seeing of a glimpse of the state by state situation that took tremendously. >> reporter: as states across the country inching towards reopening the economy, there is one thing governors can learn they can count on, mixed messages from the white house. >> we are starting to open our country again. >> that much may be clear. the question is how and when? in the absence of clear and consistent direction from president trump, a messy patch work of state by state rule is now emerging of what's opened and what close. brian kemp is leading the way allowing several businesses to reopen today from gyms to salons to tattoo parlors and

alleys. >> i was not happy with brian kemp. spas and beauty parlors and tattoo parlors. >> the contradiction from one state to the next, you can can't get a haircut in georgia but not in south carolina. first trump said it was him. >> i have the opening authority. >> governors will have the power to make the circumstances of their own states. >> reporter: in trying to bounce back from their coronavirus spike. >> i told him distinctly, mike was there, dow what's best. but if you ask me, am i happy about it? i am not happy about it.

>> reporter: kemp is standing his ground. >> all i can tell you that i don't give a damn about politics right now. >> the presidential is governor how far and fast to go. >>. >> again, we have to be careful and cautious in what we are doing. >> you want to go as quickly as we can and safely as we can to restore our economy but also restoring our public health. >> reporter: anticipating the president's own reaction. one unquestionable dynamic at the center of navigating politics of the pandemic is pleasing the president. desantis made clear from day one that he is eager to be in trump's good graces.

that royalty can play a role in deciding on how fast opening the state of florida. some beaches are already opened. >> for those who try to say you are a moron, i would take you over the folks criticizing you any day of the week and twice on sunday. >> and john, it is that reaction from the president that many governors of both parties particularly republicans have their eye on. i am told by aids that several governors were paying close attention to the president repute of brian kemp's opening in georgia. john, another interesting dynamic here is not just the president and the governors. it is the governors and the anyw mayors of those cities across the state. that's what's an interesting dynamic going forward. yes, the road to reopening is happening.

it is clear it is going to be a bumpy one. >> john. >> painful politics. jeff zeleny, fascinating time to watch these complicated relationships back and forth. >> president trump says joe biden is hiding in his basement. biden at a fundraiser says he thinks the president may try to use the pandemic to delay the november election. while the president can't unilaterally change the date of the election. that will require congressional proof. some democrats are worrying that the president may somehow try. increase concerns how any elections can be held safely. we'll watch that debate play out in the weeks ahead. still ahead, ramadan begins in the disruptive age of the coronavirus.

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organization launched a global initiative designed to accelerate the fight of coronavirus. the united states is not taking part in what the w.h.o. calls a landmark organization. president trump withdrew funding saying it was too slow and too cozy with china in the early days of this outbreak. >> here in spain for the first time since the outbreak began, more people are recovered from the coronavirus in the last 24 hours and tested positive for.

health authorities say that's the best data they had seen in weeks. plus this sunday kids will get their first case of freedom when they're out allowed for walks with their re positive signs. the economic side may take longer to see. the coronavirus caused hundreds of thousands of people to apply for unemployment. many working people until now never seen inside of a food bank to suddenly ask for help. we saw this firsthand when we rode along with the madrid fire department. the broader economy won't restart until may may and one of the last industries to restart is tourism which takes up 12% of this economy. scott mclean, cnn, madrid.

here in germany, the reproduction number of the coronavirus has roll back some of the measures in place to combat covid-19. the german center for disease control, reproduction have risen from 0.7 to 7.9. the german government say says -- merkel says she fears that germany may be squandering of some of the gains being made and rolling back too quickly and that could lead to a new spike of the coronavirus infection. cnn. berlin. here in the united emirates, many people are preparing for

the first time to celebrate the if defeat the end of the first day of the month of fasting of ramadan. it is very different feast, particularly the prayers that followed because in both cases all physical contact or social contact with people outside of the home has been banned right across the islamic world with one or two notable exceptions. here in the emirates, small elements of curfew lifted to allow shopping. and so almost in the post after prayer sessions. in that case only pakistan, khan advised the people not to attend mass and there is no punishment

for those who do. cnn. here in hong kong, i am watching how singapore is struggling with the second wave of coronavirus infection. this is a wealthy country, smaller geographic region than new york city and it was initially applauded for how it handled the disease. it was able to keep schools opened until the beginning of the month and it watched the number of confirmed cases explode in mid march to now more than 12,000 with many of these infections among its pouring guest worker population. these are low paid labors who can't isolate because they live in crowded dormitories and prompting the government to crack down hard until june, closing schools and places of worship. and with new cases numbering of more than 800 a day, the prime

minister says that there's a larger hidden of reservoir of covid-19 cases in the community. ivan watson, cnn, hong kong. >> thank you for your time. anderson cooper picks up our coverage right now. i am anderson cooper, thank you for joining me for the coronavirus pandemic. today marks a milestone for the nation. more than 50,000 people have died in the united states, something no one heard of just six months ago. as we mark this moment, a larger death toll of any national tragedy of modern times. nearly a dozen states thinking of reopening today or next week with social distancing in place. in oklahoma, personal care businesses can make appointments and alaska, restaurants can reopen and there is