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powerful light, and i think you said that hasn't been checked, but you're going to test it. i said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do, either through the skin or in some other way, and i think you said you're going to test that, too. it sounds interesting. right. and then i see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. one minute. and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. so it would be interesting to check that. so you're going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds -- sounds interesting to me. >> as you might imagine, the president talking about people being injected with disinfectants prompted the makers of lysol to warn against it and just about every scientist and doctor to do the same. more than 100 people called into a maryland hotline asking about

that. this morning the white house said the president had been taken out of context, which is not true. then when later asked about it, the president lied directly to the american people. >> no, i was asking a question sarcastically to reporters like you just to see what would happen. i was asking the question of the gentleman who was there yesterday, bill, because when they say that something will last three or four hours or six hours, but if the sun is out or if they use disinfectant, it goes away in less than a minute. did you hear about this yesterday? but i was asking a very sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside. >> he wasn't talking to reporters and he wasn't being sarcastic. tonight he took no questions. joining us now is kaitlan collins, dr. sanjay gupta and kathleen sebelius, democratic governor of kansas who served as health and human services secretary in the obama administration. secretary sebelius, look, the country's in a major health crisis. the president of the united states suggesting that people might be injected with

disinfectant then lies about it. i mean, how dangerous is all this? >> well, anderson, i think it's incredibly dangerous. you ended the last segment with a heartbreaking story about a young widow and her two children and her beloved husband who just died. we ended this week with 50,000 american deaths. they have doubled over the past ten days and we have a president who from the podium is pitching americans to take specific medication that is not proven effective and may, indeed, cause them harm, and now is talking about lighting inside their body, ultraviolet light and maybe injecting people with disinfectant, which is, again, dangerous, could kill them. so i think it is incredibly

harmful and must be shocking to any of the health advisers who try to make some sense out of what's coming out of his mouth. >> kaitlan, you were in the briefing room when the president walked out without taking any questions. think the head of the fda took one question. but that was it. the vice president didn't take any. dr. birx not there. dr. fauci not there. >> typically, remember, the were just only held by the vice president and the other doctors on the team at the beginning, and i remember the president first came out and he seemed so joyous to be engaging back and forth with the press. it was a very long briefing the first time the president came out and, of course, it was a rare appearance for him in the briefing room. think it was the first time he had actually taken questions in the briefing room. it's really just notable to see how far that has change from where we were that day to where we were today where the president took no questions, the fda commissioner only took one question. and, of course, what we've been hearing from aides and allies of

the president is that they don't think he needs to be doing these marathon briefings every single day. they think he's obviously exhausted from dealing with the coronavirus, having these meetings every day, but a lot of them also don't think they're helpful to the president because often it's this long briefing that happens during prime time hours where the president often talks about the ratings. he ad libs from the prepared remarks that the aides and the scientists have prepared to him over their latest developments and a lot of people around the president don't think they're helpful to him. i think a lot of people can point back to yesterday as a highlight of that point that they've been trying to make. but, of course, it's ultimately the president's call if he wants to come out to these briefings and often he decides even when there is not a briefing scheduled that he wants to have one, like he did two weeks ago. >> the irony is they're not helpful to the president he cannot help himself but to muse aloud about his thoughts on medical issues which is he not qualified to talk about as if

they're real suggestions. sanjay, the medical community obviously reject these ludicrous, dangerous recommendations. the cdc put out a statement. lysol had to put out a warning. ever since this has happened, you and i have been discussing this. i still find this unbelievable that the greatest country in the world is facing this situation and this is what is being discussed from the upper echelons of our government. >> at a time when it's critically important for these scientists to be focussing on really important things. i mean, you know, i -- i guess i -- there is a little solace in the fact that i think the scientific community for the most part spoke with one voice in response to this, not just public -- in the public sphere, but also in the private sphere. you heard a lot of people coming forth and really making sure that people understood and that people would be kept safe from this. i, you know, find it concerning, as you and i have talked about,

anderson, these great scientists, really renowned scientists, you're right, we have some of the greatest scientists in the world in this country and some of them are working on that coronavirus task force. great leaders in hiv/aids. anthony fauci, 40 years running infectious diseases for this country. stephen hahn running the cancer center before this. really, really renowned scientists. i'm worried sometimes they're not speaking as forcefully as they probably should, but i also, you know, take some sal ace in the fact that they're in the job and they want to stay in the job because this is really important right now. i mean, there are six significant vaccine trials that are happening. one of them we just reported on. many therapeutic trials. some of them have not shown promising results yet. but one of those clicks, that could be a way out of this mess. we need these scientists to be in these jobs. hopefully they didn't get too sidetracked by all of this. i'm sure the people working in the labs hopefully kept working in the labs on the work that they have to do, but it is a

huge distraction. i mean, the number of texts that i got from people, my sources today, about this issue. i'm asking about medications. i'm asking about whether mrna is going to be a good vaccine candidate or not and we're talking about lysol. i mean, that is not, you know, i guess maybe we should stop talking about it as well because it's not -- it's of no use to the american public. >> yeah, well, by the way, this is of course the president. tomorrow he's going to talk more about it because he's going to try to, you know, spend the night stewing about it, formulate some new lie and then go after it tomorrow. secretary sebelius, i mean, in a normal time shouldn't scientists be able to speak directly to the american people not filtered through the lens of, you know, the white house or the vice president's office? i mean, shouldn't there be cdc briefings and hhs briefings and, you know, directly scientific information and questions being asked and answered? >> it would be really helpful if we would have anthony fauci, dr.

debbie birx, both of whom are excellent and have incredible reputations. and then a, you know, whether it's dr. redfield or somebody from the cdc should be by their side every day. they're the epidemiologists. that's who we should be hearing from. periodically, you want a government leader to talk about logistics, give clear guidance, national guidance on issues like stay at home rules and what kind of help could be coming from the federal government, but when you want the medical advice to come from the scientists. you want people like sanjay gupta talking about medicine. and not hearing it from, you know, the head of lysol. i just -- i find it just so troubling. and i really don't, you know, the president again has touted the fact that his uncle was a doctor. my uncle was a doctor. that doesn't make me

well-equipped to give medical advice. i would never do that. and what he's doing is incredibly dangerous because he's promoting drugs and now potential cures of some kind which can be very, very harmful to people. and just saying, you know, well, talk to a doctor, but i have these great ideas, and let's go follow this. and as dr. gupta just said, the notion that scientists could be misdirected into some errand to follow whatever the president woke up in the morning thinking about is also troubling. 24/7 we need people to be focus on finding a medication and certainly finding a vaccine. and those two things will take all the time and energy that we have. >> yeah. kaitlan, i just want to play something that dr. birx said on fox news today about these comments from the president. >> when he gets new information, he likes to talk that through out loud and really have that dialogue.

and so that's what dialogue he was having. i think he just saw the information at the time, immediately before the press conference, and he was still digesting that information. >> i mean, yeah -- kaitlan, the president is putting the white house task force public health officials in incredibly difficult positions. obviously she's trying to put the best face on it. i'm not sure, you know, that that's a great explanation that, well, he just happened to randomly hear this information and therefore decided to speak about it in front of the world. >> yeah, i don't think any of the doctors would suggest the president digesting information in front of cameras at the podium where aides, like i said, they've put together these carefully prepared remarks, and then it's when the president goes off script that moments like this happen. and anderson, really this whole week we have seen where the president has put these doctors and these scientists in these positions where dr. birx is trying to explain that, and that was -- that was -- we should

note, taped before the president made his comment that it was sarcastic, what he was saying to reporters. now that dr. birx is saying that he was just, you know, digesting that information. we've seen it multiple times this week with dr. fauci where the president said he disagreed with him about whether or not the u.s. had the proper amount of testing. they contradicted each other about coronavirus returning in this fall. he had the cdc director come out to correct his quote that the cdc director said was accurately quoted in "the washington post." so you really see what these doctors, you know, what their experience like is with the president. when he wants them to come out to these briefings, he picks them to come out there and then it ends up with dr. birx trying to explain that comment today in an interview. >> you know, kaitlan, i'm glad you mentioned that it was before the president then went out and lied about, you know, it being sarcastic, because it's another example of how all those around the president skewer themselves and debase themselves by coming up with stories, cover stories for the president that are not coordinated.

so kaley mcglyyleigh mcenany sa was taken out of context. he says, oh, no, is it was all sarcastic and i was talking to reporters. you know, everybody ends up with mud on their face because the president -- they're just trying to cover for the president and it's sad that our scientists are put in this position that they are trying to do this. i just want to end on just a completely unrelated mildly happy note, which is the nicest thing that happened to me today besides talking to you all and besides talking to that amazing mom who just lost her husband a few moments ago. sanjay, your daughter made me a mask, and it is the best mask i've ever seen. it's got little, like, cowboys on it. it reminds me of, like, pajamas i had from the 1970s and it makes me so happy. so i want to thank you and thank your daughter salil for making it.

i've gotten two requests from very famous people who are friends of mine who saw that picture and immediately are asking if she can make them mach masks as well. i'll send you an email about it. thank her. if she's watching, thank you. >> she is watching. thank you. she'll get to work, anderson, but can i just say she is a huge fan of yours. what you just did will absolutely make her day. >> all right. so thank you for that, anderson. >> sanjay, thanks. secretary sebelius, thank you, as always. kaitlan collins, thank you as well. joining us now connecticut governor ned lamont. the president went out of his way to offer this crazy medical advice. i don't want to spend a lot of time on this because there are more important things to talk to you about. just as a governor of a state, do you worry about people in your state hearing this and thinking in a desperate situation, oh, let's try this? >> i worry about people hearing that and taking him literally and how dangerous that is. i'm really struck by your last

segment. katie's husband jonathan was a state employee. they met in danbury, connecticut, and he was a front line worker, he was an essential worker and he put himself at risk even though he had a kid at home who was at some risk as well. it just reminds you what these state employees are doing. they are essential workers. and i think every day about essential workers. there is no correlation between how much you're paid and being how essential you are, and that's what that story reminds me of. >> yeah. >> and talking about the president bleach, i'm not there right now. >> yeah. governor lamont, we're having a problem with your shot. we're going to take a quick break. we're going to try to get it up because we'd love to be able to see you. we'll continue this conversation. we'll be right back. but know when it comes to your finances, we are here for you. what can i do for you today? we'll take a look at the portfolio and make adjustments. i'm free to chat if you have any more questions. our j.p.morgan advisors are working from home to help guide you through this.

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because the key to keeping kids learning, is keeping kids connected. we're having trouble reestablishing a connection with the governor of connecticut, ned lamont. we're going to continue to try to get him back on that. right now we want to turn to the outbreak that was both inspiring and deeply depressing.

captain brett crozier walking off the deck of the thooe do"us theodore roosevelt." 856 people on board that ship, including captain crozier, ended up infected. [ chanting "captain crozier" ] >> they were called the acting navy secretary at the time who was fired -- who fired him was subsequently fired himself and now the chief of naval operations is recommending to the defense secretary mark esper that captain crozier's command be reinstated. two defense officials tell cnn director esper is not immediately ready to accept the recommendation, but generally inclined to. joining us now is former secretary of the navy under the obama administration. you were critical of the

decision to fire captain crozier. i wonder what you make of their recommendations and what do you think secretary esper's calculus is on this? >> well, this is what should have happened in the first place. do an investigation. find out what the facts are. because as i said when i was last on your program, it's inconceivable somebody like captain crozier, the first thing he would have done is send out a memo like this. and the facts that have come out since then says that he did, he went through the chain of command and it was only a last desperate act that he did. and he was proven correct. 856 sailors tested positive. we've lost one sailor, a chief that died. and what this shows is the danger of putting politics into what ought to be a purely military decision. the acting secretary said that he fired captain crozier because he, quote, wanted to get out ahead of the president. and he didn't want to get cross ways with trump.

and i hope that what secretary esper is doing is reading that report and deferring to the -- to navy leadership, to the cno, to the chain of command in the navy. what i think would be incredibly dangerous is if he's checking with the white house to see if this is okay. to once more put a political spin or political element into something that ought to be purely, totally, absolutely a military decision. >> you know, when you hear 856 sailors aboard the "roosevelt" testing positive. and as you said, one chief dying. captain crozier himself in quarantine, testing positive. it certainly sounds like the alarm was warranted. it also just gives you a sense of the danger of -- to our military personnel of this virus. i mean, not -- beyond just, you

know, the personal danger to each individual sailor, which is, you know, the main thing. also just from a national security standpoint. there is concerns about that. >> it's a tremendous national security risk. in so many ways, but to our military, to our navy in particular because these ships -- you cannot isolate people on a navy ship. you cannot have social distancing. they're literally, as we talked about before, on top of each other, sleeping in bunks that are three high, eating together every day. the packa the passageways to all the compartments very small. and you're beginning to see -- there are three more carriers that have announced sailors have tested positive. the destroyer said that it's got somewhere in the mid teens people that have tested positive. and this is gonna seriously, seriously weaken our navy if a

lot of proactive steps aren't taken. if we don't proactively bring these ships in to test people. clean the ships. we're going to have a little dip in readiness when that happens. they're not going to be as ready. but they will be much more ready in very short term than if we keep doing this piecemeal stuff then we're going to have issues with whether the navy and whether the entire military can do their jobs long into the future. >> yeah, i mean, it also puts, again, it highlights the need for more testing, which, you know, and a national strategy for testing. if it becomes a national security issue, you know, even if a ship can't come all the way into port to be able to have testing on board a ship and be able to figure out, you know, exactly, you know, who is positive, who's not, who is asymptomatic, who has antibodies to at least try to get a handle

on it before it becomes something that you do need to bring the ship back in for. >> i think that's absolutely right. i understand that a navy medical unit flew out to "the kid" to do exactly that, but you can't wait until the virus is spreading throughout the crew. you've got to have these tests. and the navy is a microcosm of what's happening in the country. you cannot do it piecemeal. you've got to do it service-wide. you've got to do it military-wide or you're going to have some real national security issues in terms of our military not being able to do all the missions the country expects of them. >> yeah. secretary, i really appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thanks, anderson. we're going to -- we think we have our technical issue solved, so we're going to try to talk to the governor of connecticut, ned lamont, next. we'll be right back. (laughter) ♪

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we've renecked wiconnected connecticut's governor ned lamont. he's joining us by phone. governor before we had technical problems, i spoke with katie coelho. she lost her husband unexpectedly. he was intubated. thought he was going to get off. they have two kids. he was actually a state employee. >> he was. i found out jonathan worked for the state for over ten years.

front line first responder taking care of folks, and everybody knocks state employees. and you'll remember these are the guys on the front lines taking care of people, putting themselves at some risk. it was just heartbreaking hearing that story. >> yeah. i mean, and it is a reminder for, you know, for all the talk about reopening and -- which is obviously incredible important and getting the economy back. there are people dying. this was two days ago. i mean, you know, there were more than 400 people who died in new york over the last 24 hours. it is still -- this is -- we are still very early in all of this. >> we're still early in all of this, anderson, and i had the governor's residence in hartford, i had all the protesters circling around, beeping the horn saying liberate connecticut. give me liberty or give me death. i wish they knew the story of jonathan. i wish they'd go to some icu units and they'd be reminded what this disease is doing. and i as a governor feel every

day how serious it is, the responsibility to keep every future jonathan safe. >> in terms of, you know, testing, we were just talking about what's going on on navy ships and the need of testing on those ships. just in terms of in connecticut, testing, contact tracing, where are you with that? what do you hope to -- where do you hope to be with that, you know, down the road? >> yeah, we're going to ramp up testing big time. we're going to double the amount of testing in the next week or two. we've got a great relationship with cvs, the head of quest diagnostics. grew up in torington, connecticut, to be exact. these are the types of relationships we need. you want to get the supply chain, these big companies have access to the swabs and the reagents that we need, so that's going to allow us to ramp up. as soon as i can start doing some random testing to see how severe the infection is, sooner i can get people back to work

safely. >> do you have a -- i mean, i'm sure you have folks who are thinking about that and trying to figure out when that may be. i mean, is it -- do you have a calender date in mind, a goal? >> i've told the people of connecticut may 20th we're going to be able to give you a road map on how we slowly get back to normalcy. between now and nbcthen, i'm go to have a lot more protective gear, a lot more masks. we'll have a lot more testing so we'll know what the nature of the pandemic is. at that point we can build on what type of small businesses, retail businesses we might be able to reopen, probably with a mask, perhaps with a fever test just to make sure we move forward cautiously. >> i understand you were on a task force call today with vice president pence. can you say what was being discussed, how you left that call feeling? >> yeah, i'd say the task force, you know, whatever rhetoric you hear coming from the oval office, the task force is pretty constructive and you've got dr. birx, dr. fauci, a lot of

governors have a chance to compare notes in terms of how we're doing our tracing. what type of testing is going on. obviously there was some frustration from the governors that in yet another supplemental there is maybe money for ahre airlines, but no money for front line workers, state and local government. our revenue has just been devastated. income tax as well as sales tax. that point was made clear you got to remember state government or else we'll never get this economy back on track. >> yeah, when you talk about double testing, that requires money. do you -- you know, is that something you need from the federal government? >> well, you know, the last supplemental, $350 billion for the states, allows us to reimburse for covid-related expenses, just like the testing. i think we're in pretty good shape there. what worries me is that 90% of

my deficit is related to just income tax and sales tax revenues just eviscerated in the last 90 days. >> and, you know, so many front line workers, not just in hospitals, but, you know, grocery stores in connecticut, you know, the grocery store i go to in connecticut, you know, they've instituted, you know, social distancing, regulating how many people are in the store at one time. but, you know, i've talked to other grocery store workers not in connecticut, but from other places who weren't even given, you know, hand sanitizer for -- until, you know, a couple of weeks ago. i just found that startling. do you feel like there's enough, you know, in the businesses that are open, do they have access to what they need in terms of personal protective equipment? >> i think increasingly they really do. and we've mandated that you got to wear a mask. if you're an employee in that grocery store, wear a mask. if you're a customer going in

there, wear a mask. we're getting a supply of masks. your employers are obligated to get you a mask. and if you can't get either, wear a scarf, but i think that's gonna keep us safer and tamp down this virus. >> governor ned lamont, i appreciate all your efforts. thank you very much. >> thanks, anderson. >> the governor was talking about the coelho family. we were talking to katie coelho who just lost her husband jonathan. she's got two kids. one has some very serious medical issues. a guofundme site has been set u. it's gofundme.com/f/vbe3b-covid-19- relief. you can see the address on your screen. we'll put it also on our facebook page and tweet it out from our show account. they would certainly appreciate anything you can do for them. i'll be donating as well. governor lamont, thank you very much. we're going to have more ahead. we'll be right back. hey mama, what's up?

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my friend andy cohen was diagnosed with coronavirus. he's now recovered. he's feeling very -- pretty much fine. last night, however, he spoke about what happened next when he tried to help because he'd emerged with a clean bill of health. >> i signed up for a program for covid-19 survivors where you could donate plasma, which is rich in antibodies, to those still battling the virus.

i was told that due to antiquated and discriminatory guidelines by the fda to prevent hiv, i am ineligible to donate blood because i'm a gay man. >> so, at present, fda regulations require that any gay man who has had sex with another man during the past three months not be allowed to donate blood. andy, of course, has been through a great deal. he joins me now. so, andy, what exactly happened here? >> i recovered from coronavirus and read in the paper and all over the place in new york city that mount sinai hospital put out an urgent call for donors who had survived coronavirus. they were looking for plasma for antibody trials. they were using the plasma from people who had recovered from coronavirus to treat people who had coronavirus and to study it

-- >> right and obviously the numbers of people who have the antibodies is -- is relatively small and so they're -- they're very eager to get as many people as possible to donate plasma to help others. >> exactly. and this was -- i think they put out the call in early april. i immediately responded. it took a bit for them to get back to me. and then when they did, i was -- they were going through kind of a questionnaire for me and i said to them -- they said, oh, you sound like a perfect candidate and i said, listen, i'm a gay man, is that -- i know that some of the rules have been relaxed. because i know that gay men can't typically give blood. i've tried to donate blood before. and they said, oh, you actually -- you can't -- you can't be a part of this. there had -- the new rules are relaxed so that if you have abstained from sex over the last three months, any kind of sexual

contact, you could -- you can give blood. >> right. it used to be -- before it was you couldn't do it at all. it was a year -- you had to abstain for a year from having sex. >> right. >> but now because of covid and the need, the urgent need, they say it's three months. so you are not able to give your very valuable blood that has antibodies because of this? >> exactly. and i understand the concerns about gay men being a higher risk for carrying hiv, but there are hiv tests that can be administrated in 20 minutes. >> right. >> so i could go -- i could take an hiv test, they could tell me in 20 minutes and they then retest your blood, from what i understand -- >> right. blood is tested. >> they do another hiv test of your blood. >> right. the blood supply is tested for hiv. so this is an antiquated law that is just -- and, i mean, they're not stopping people who are heterosexual from giving

blood if they've had sex within three months. >> well, that's true. there would be sexually promiscuous heterosexuals who have had plenty of sex in the last three months who could go in no questions asked and give blood. my feeling is we've been asked to change our way of life because we're at war with this virus, and we've been able to adapt to a whole lot of things we weren't used to two months ago. we're wearing masks. we're quarantined. i think it's time for the fda to look at this antiquated rule and say this is ridiculous. i mean, i think that the plasma in my body can absolutely help someone or possibly cure someone. >> well, also, i mean, frankly, these laws were made at a time when there was a huge fear about hiv/aids and a huge stigma against gay people. just as, i mean, this was at a time when gay people who were hiv positive were actually not allowed to come into the united

states. >> right. >> which was a law that was on the books until, you know, a couple of years ago. by the way, just in general, how are you doing? in terms of coronavirus. i mean, any lingering feelings from it? >> i'm great. no, you know what? it's weird. it is something that lingers. i felt great all week and i woke up this morning and i had tightness right here in my chest, which i know that i've complained to you about before. and it went away. and, you know, it's back. but i'm -- i'm great. and, you know, i'm -- i'm grateful that this worked its way through my body and that i'm past it. >> yeah. >> i'm just looking to see who's going to play the mayor of las vegas on "snl" this weekend. any bets? >> you think she should be -- you think she's a character -- >> oh, yeah. >> for that? >> yes. i would hope that kate mckinnon

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one of the things that has brought me great joy over the last several weeks is discovering instagram account of an actor, who i have always admired, always thought he was very funny. known for shows like "will and grace." but leslie jordan's instagram, i think he has like 2 million followers, suddenly. and he is like an instagram star. here's some of the reason why. here are some of his postings. >> so it has come to this. ironing, to pass the time, and watching a murder program on television. honey, she killed him, and then she fed him to the tigers. i'm talking to my friends, mama! quit bothering me. how much more of this can i take? are y'all watching netflix? honey, i conquered netflix.

i've watched 'em all. i've watched the one about the tigers. i watched the one about the boy who tortured kittens. i watched one about the nun that got killed in 1961. i watched one about ivan the terrible. there is nothing left for me to watch. but i'm not about to turn on the news. they want to make you think it's like the end of the world. they don't know [ bleep ]. i will turn on anderson cooper. cause people have said that we resemble. we both have white hair. leslie jordan joins us now. god bless you. i am -- i'm so thrilled that you're here. you give me such joy. i'm so honored that people say we resemble. i can't tell you how many people come up to me and say, leslie, is that you? okay. i made that up. but, you know, you're making up

stoi stories all the time and you confess them on instagram. you made up a story you've been telling for years, you told about some poor lady in your church who had a baby and the baby looked like, what was it, a pig? >> a little baby, tiny pig and she'd hold it up and it had bows in its hair and little, frilly socks and the story just got bigger and bigger. and linda wrote it and linda joe rupp played the woman and i thought to myself, i made that up. but that's kind of like a lot of it is. you know, you just kind of make little stories up. that's a very southern thing. >> well, my dad was from mississippi and one time my mom called him up like i've been trying to get through to you for hours. who have you been talking to? he'd go oh it was the wrong

number. he would just talk to anybody. so like, he ever tievery time i. what do you think of your like instagram fame? it's got to be, you know, to know that you're giving such joy to so many people. >> it started, you know, i've had a long career in hollywood. and i thought, you know, well i've gotten a lot of attention. but never like this. it's like 3.8 million followers. it's gotten just -- >> wow. >> -- out of control. and so, now, i just make stuff up off the cuff. you know, i've never sat and thought and planned it out at all. but i'll get up. something will happen and i'll if i film it. but i think what's happening, which is fun, is that people have known me from all these characters but i thought they knew me knew me. and i'm just the funny guy that comes in with a zinger. all of a sudden at 65 years of age, people are like meeting me.

>> yeah. what's so great is it's so intimate. like, you start it out and you're like in your bed just looking. i love the way you start out so many of your videos. you're like what ya doing? what y'all doing? like if somebody calls you up, hey, hunker downers, what ya doing? it'd be great. >> i'm not trying to make money at this. i'm just going to have a lot of fun. and then people started tiptoeing around offering things and i thought i got to stick to what i said. >> do you? come on. oh, come on. you can hunker down with like, you know, some product. and be like, hey, hunker downers, oh look, it's my new, you know, sit and spin. i love sit and spin. >> i'm going to be the biggest whore in hollywood when this is over. i'm gonna sell out. but right now, i'm stuck to that original thing i said. >> you also been coming up with

all these life hacks. i just want to play a quick video you posted where you discovered something pretty amazing. take a look. >> sometimes i just stun myself with my original thinking. i should be an inventor or something. okay. so you got a bag of chips, and you've got no clips. you know, so what on earth you do? oh, well, let's take magnets off the refrigerator. job done. watch out rachel ray. i'll take my 3 million followers. i'll start me a little home channel. >> and so you're, like, you live in l.a. but you're hunkering down in tennessee. how's your mom doing? >> she's doing really, really well. i hit the jackpot on mom. she's the most beautiful woman in the world. she really is.