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♪ 5:00 a.m. here on the eastern coast of the u.s. hello, everyone, we're live at cnn headquarters in atlanta. welcome to you and around the world. i'm natalie allen. multiple sources are telling cnn of a strong push in the white house to end president trump's daily coronavirus briefs. administration officials are said to be alarmed by the president's habit of promoting dubious, even dangerous medical
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advice from his bully pulpit. on thursday, he said he was interested to know if injecting disinfectant in the body would kill the virus. well, to state the obvious, don't do that. johns hopkins university reporting now more than 900,000 people in the u.s. are infected. at least 51,000 have died. that is enough to fill a sports stadium. there are possible new clues into how the virus was able to spread so quickly in the u.s. a government review found inadequate safety measures when the first group of americans were repatriated from china late january. that included a lack of protective clothing and social distancing. well, despite the steady climb with new infections and deaths across the united states, some states are already taking steps to reboot their economy, but
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against the advice of disease experts. cnn's erica hill has our report. >> reporter: an unprecedented experiment now under way in georgia. salons, tattoo parlors and gyms all have the governor's blessing to reopen. the mayor of the state's largest city urging residents to stay home. >> nothing has changed. people are still getting infected. people are still dying. we don't have a cure to this virus. the only thing that's helped us, we have stayed apart from one another. i'm simply asking people to continue to do that. >> reporter: customers weighing health concerns as owners must also confront mounting bills. >> i'm going to try it. i just feel like us as a country, we're going to have much bigger problems financially if we don't. >> reporter: meantime, about an hour south, cars lining up for food at the atlanta motor speedway. neighboring north carolina is
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not easing up yet. >> we love our friends in georgia. but we're really concerned about how quickly this is happening. and we want to make sure that we keep our numbers as low as possible. >> reporter: oklahoma moving forward with a plan similar to georgia's. the mayor of tulsa noting cases in his city are still on the rise. and expects that will continue. >> waiting on those cases to decline, as people for 100 miles in every direction are being encouraged to ease social distancing would be futile. >> reporter: golf courses opening in wisconsin friday. libraries and stores can offer curbside pickup. the state reporting 23 people who voted in person or worked the polls at th the polls at the primary there earlier this month have now tested positive for covid-19. curbside pickup is available today in retail stores in texas. colorado's stay-at-home order
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will end sunday, though not in denver. >> nothing will change until at may 8th or at least midnight on may 9th. >> reporter: more restaurants soon and diners can eat at restaurants in alaska though limited to 25%. a patchwork response following as experts warn we're not out of the woods. >> people talking about it like it's the end game. it's not the end game. it's simple a little model. >> reporter: consider announcing a new partnerships to get restaurants back online and delivering meals to seniors. >> it's not about the meals. it's about a human connection. it's about someone checking in as they're delivering those meal and making sure people are okay. >> reporter: a chance to reconnect and to help as the crisis continues. also in california, for the
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first time sinworld war ii food event has been cancelled from mid-july to early august. venue where it is held is currently being using as a drive-through testing site at the state. back to you. stunning statements yet again at the white house. you may remember thursday the president of the united states floated the idea of disinfecting the idea. to rid the body of virus. friday, he tried to scrub that statement. cnn's kaitlan collins. >> reporter: president trump started friday stating that the replenishment funds since the coronavirus outbreak has shuddered so many of them. butted president ended with the response to the coronavirus outbreak where he took no questions. the nca commissioner spoke briefly and took one question but other than that, the president did not engage with
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reporters and that came after earlier in the day he tried to say the comment the day before that he suggested potentially you that could use bleach or sunlight inside the body to cure the coronavirus were widely panned by doctors. the president said he was just being sarcastic when he suggested during a briefly the night before. >> mr. president, you can clarify your comments an injection ez of disinfectant of reporters just like you i was asking the question, from the reporter bill, if the sun is out or they use disinfectant it goes away in less than a minute. did you hear about is this yesterday? i was answering in a very sarcastic question to the reporters of the room about disinfectant on the inside. >> reporter: you'll remember on that briefing thursday night, a senior official came out and
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laying out the findings of the studies they had done that talked about sunlight, disinfectant and bleaches killing coronavirus on surfaces not in the human body. that the president suggested that medical experts should look into despite his claims later on that he was being sarcastic. the president said sarcastic, but the president secretary said it was a day he was taken out of context. and dr. desch bra birx in a statement she had taped said that the president was processing information he had just received in realtime. which of course it wasn't in front of cameras and led to the cdc issuing a statement saying that household disinfectants should be used as marked on labels and of course, not ingested. the surgeon general tweeted that people should consult with their doctors for any treatments for coronavirus.
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and the white house saying of course the president was ad-libbing after that presentation. kaitlan collins, cnn, the white house. >> i'm joined by dr. peter drobak. she's live with us from university of the oxford. good morning. >> good morning. >> let's just take what the president said and all of that brouhaha and leave it there and move on with the science, okay? >> sounds good. >> all right. here in the state of georgia, the governor has cleared the way for some businesses to reopen. they did so friday. but here we go again. but it's -- it always comes back to testing, without wide testing to know who has the virus, how risky is opening up now? >> unfortunately, it's extremely risky, before we even get to testing let's look where we are with the epidemic in georgia. in some parts of the states, we're still seeing increases in
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cases. it's not as though here back the initial peak. the first criteria is a 14-day sustained decrease in the number of new cases. we're not seeing that in georgia. so, really at the kind of height of things, to talk about opening back up, seems a bit careless. and then when you get to testing, we know that widespread testing, along with the ability to trace contacts and then isolate infected people is really important. and the state is not there at all. >> right. and what makes we think of japan right now which is having a second wave. it had its first wave. it tapered off. schools reopened. and then it got hit again. that's what needs to be taken here, is history giving a glimpse of whether second or third waves can be worse? >> well, if you look back at past pandemics, and these are
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mostly influenza pandemics and infections that can't be as bad or worse than the first ones, in japan, it's significant and singapore as well which really, i think, is humbling because it shows how fragile these efforts at containments are. the virus is not going to change, so if we go back to business as usual, we could expect to see a second spike in infections that could be as bad as the worse. that's why we need to be incredibly cautious. we're still early in the pandemic. only a few percentage of the population has been exposed and infected so if we ease back on these measures, we're going to get to a very dangerous place. >> because, really, we're just at the beginning stages of this pandemic, aren't we? as you said, georgia hasn't even peaked yet. you can understand why people want to get on with it start their lives, rekindle their businesses. but it just shows what can
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happen if you move too quickly. >> that's right. and ultimately, to beat this virus, it's very likely that we're going to need to try to hold firm and try to find a way to get through this until there's a vaccine ready. and we know a vaccine will not be ready anytime soon. we've been hearing this is going to be a marathon, not a sprint. we think that's right and we also understand we're in just the first couple of miles of that marathon. there's a long way to go. everyone is concerned about the economic crisis and economic toll on families. but the only way to end the economic crisis is to get the virus under control. >> right. and one of the key three things is antibody testing, it's under way, however some are shown to be flawed to have people thinking they immune when they are not. how challenging is antibody testing? what do we know? >> it's going to be an important tool for us as it is ruled out further. but we have seen a lot of
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challenges with quality accuracy. particularly with the so-called point of care antibody tests, those are the ones people can do at happen. most of those have serious problems with accuracy and then you run the risk of a positive test when in fact it's negative. they're told that they're immune and they're not but that's going to be an issue. it's less of an issue with laboratory tests. we've seen early results from syro-surveys, a random population test to give us an idea what number may have immunity. that's going to be important but the widespread test looks like it's a long ways off. >> we appreciate your time. pete drobac in oxford. thank you. the u.s. navy is recommending the reinstatement of a captain who was dismissed over a coronavirus warning.
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captain brett crozier was forced out after writing a letter about the spread of the vices aboard his aircraft carrier. but as cnn's barbara starr reports the defense secretary isn't ready quite yet to but crozier back on board. >> reporter: the chief of naval operations four star general michael godet has recommended that brett crozier get his aircraft back. crozier was fired by the now fired secretary after worries that sailors aboard the "ro "roosevelt" were not being properly cared for after an outbreak. the now now the navy is emd aring that crozier be
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reenenstated to his command. that recommendation went to defense sent mark esper who declined to accept it right away. a pentagon statement says in part, that esper intends to thoroughly review the report. and will meet again with navy leadership to discuss next steps. he remains focused on and committed to restoring the full health of the crew and getting the ship at sea again soon. so esper wants to read the full investigation before he accepts the recommendation of his own navy leadership. there are now more than 850 sailors on the "roosevelt" view who have tested positive for the virus, as the carrier remains tied up in port if guam. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> now, we'll continue to follow any developments in that story. well, we were just talk about antibody tests with our guest. well, dozens of tests are apparently on the u.s. market
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that's prince charles and wife camila joining countless others in the uk in applauding health care workers. and this has the heir to the throne's first public appearance since he recovered from coronavirus. looking quite healthy there. well, the uk is approaching a grim number of coronavirus deaths. close to 20,000 now. officials there are pushing to get medical supplies to hospitals and health workers. they've been sorely light in having protective gear there. and starting next week, britain will begin using drones to make those deliveries. meantime, the british government is assuring citizens its new website for essential workers to book virus tests will be available again today. the site went live early friday
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but it shut down just showers later when appointments got fully booked. cnn's nina dos santos joins me from london more with the story. good morning to you, nina. just the fact that it's already booked shows people are desperate for tests? >> reporter: yeah, desperate for tests but also the government is probably desperate to make itself look better because this issue of testing and not being able to reach the government targets has dumped it for about three or four weeks. it's been a week since the secretary matt hancock said after being pressured on testing he would commit to a target of 100,000 tests per day. particularly for key workers like those who work in the health care, the police force and others. he said they would commit to
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100,000 this very month. despite all of that, various different efforts the government has been stuck at a level of run which is at about 20,000 where it is now. so, to try and cope with this, and also to try and make sure they could widen the testing scheme out to 10 million of key workers and their family units as well, what they did, they launched a website which went live yesterday. but to the government's embarrassment, they had to shut it after so many people requested tests it just couldn't cope. and at 10 downing street, he said about 426,000 people tried to access the service. we know that 16,000 people managed to get bookings for tests today, again, will be another test to see why and how, this type of government response can only still deliver in the tens of thousands in terms of tests. in the meantime, as you pointed out, the grim total is fast
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approaching 20,000 fatalities in the uk with more than 600 people losing their lives yesterday, rosemary. >> nina doss sa santos for us. thank you so much. spain says it's well on its way of deliberating 5 billion antibody tests across the country. more than 3 million has been administered so far with the rest expected to be given out in the coming day. meantime, the country reports 376 deaths friday. that's the lowest number of daily deaths there in more than four weeks. well, it's quite a different story in the u.s. a congressional subcommittee memo obtained by cnn says the fda is not doing enough to protect americans from unproven virus antibody tests. instead, the memo says, some companies are taking the test public, with no guarantee they actually work. senior investigative
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correspondent drew griffith has our report. >> reporter: slammed by criticism, it slowed down testing during the early coronavirus outbreak, the fda sped up the process for the next step by allowing dozens of antibody tests to go straight into the marketplace most without fda authorization. president trump asked the fda to remove all necessary barriers. >> reporter: an antibody test is supposed to defect if someone has had coronavirus even with no symptoms. it's hard to tell whether the hundred odd tests out there work. >> basically, the results can be catastrophic for ohm people. just imagine people who thought they are somehow immine because of the presence of antibodies. and then they go out and they expose themselves and get other people sick. >> reporter: in illinois the democratic congressman is chairman of the house oversight committee investigating the
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antibody test market. its preliminary report obtained by cnn says a lack of enforcement by fda has allowed manufacturers to make fraudulent claims that the fda is unable to validate the accuracy of antibody tests that are already on the market. and fda has failed to police the coronavirus antibody test market has taken no public enforcement action against any company and has not conveyed any clear policy on serological tests. the fda tells cnn it is police ing cyto tests. saying we will and have take appropriate action against firms making or distributing unvalidated tests or those making false claims such as issuing warning levels, requesting that companies stop their unlawful promotion. still the democrats on the committee suggest the fda's actions have led for a free
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foralfor all. the texas emergency room spent $500 million on tests that were worthless. the congressman says the fda has to act immediately and stop the tests from being sold. >> they should clear the market. >> reporter: while the fda has not banned sales. they have set up two pathways to approve the tests. just four of those have received emergency authorization so far, though dozens have applied. meantime, governments are allowed to sell tests to be used only in a laboratory setting. but according to the chief officer at tri corps labs, the rules are vague and require doctors to read the fine print. >> i've seen emails from companies quick to sell their devices. obviously, some of them are very deceptive.
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they don't make it clear that these really should be performed that a laboratory. >> reporter: health experts say antibody tests are crucial in reopening the country, advising the public who may or may not be susceptible to the infection. this is why he's adamant making sure that tests work. >> i feel that a lot of people are going to continue to buy these tests based on faulty assumptions and then get faulty conclusions that could lead to dangerous life decisions. >> reporter: the fda sells cnn it is constantly updating and reviewing the policies. for now, the policy stands, the nonapproved antibody tests will be sold on the market place, as long as they're clearly labeled to not about a sole testing for the infection. it's not sure the tests actually work. drew griffin, cnn, atlanta. we're saying in georgia,
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here in the u.s. and around the world. i'm natalie allen. you're watching "cnn newsroom." as the coronavirus death toll in the united states nears 52,000, many places are looking to hang the open for business signs. some states already have. despite health experts warning opening too soon could bring on the dreaded second wave of infections. so the overarching question is, is it really safe to reopen? cnn's brian todd reports now. >> no entry. >> reporter: shannon stafford suffered with the choice to reopen her hair salon in georgia. she said she'll take the temperature of clients when they enter. wear face masks. but as for social distancing -- >> that's not going to be possible. not with a client, you can kind of distance to tool the next two people throughout the salon.
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it's so difficult because we're hands on. >> reporter: she owns a restaurant called steel magnolias despite the governor's order that restaurants can reopen with social distancing in place. johnson refuses to reopen. >> i have a 19-month-old son. most of our chefs have children. we all have no know what we're going home to at the end of the night that it's safe and we're keeping them safe at this point. >> reporter: georgia governor brian kemp's decision to reopen hair salons and gyms is calling criticism with an ominous warning. >> i think there will be additional infections as we try to open up businesses. so this virus has not miraculously gone away. it's still there. it's still looking for ways to exploit frailties.
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>> reporter: and next week, tennessee governor is allowing restaurants to open at 50% capacity. and then explains how it's spread. >> this is spread through droplets, anyone who has touched a glass, spoon, cup, we have to treat it as hot. >> reporter: here marked in yellow, launched in a restaurant in china on january 24th, and then soon fell sick. nine others marked in red seated nearby were diagnosed within the following 12 days. in gyms now reopening in parts of georgia, experts say the risks could be even higher even for people in presymptomatic stages if working out too close to one another. >> if one of those persons goes to a gym and works out vig vigorous vigorously, breathing hard, that seems to be a recipe for spreading that virus in that presymptomatic state. >> reporter: so is it impossible
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for any salons, stores and restaurants reopening to operate safely right now? one expert says not impossible. but those businesses have to quickly train their employees. >> business employees are going to require the training but also the necessary equipment to protect their eyes know and mouth. it could be glasses. it could be another face covering. it could be better use of disinfectants or hand sanitizer or soap and water. but it's got to be done slowly. >> reporter: despite the encouragement for some governors to reopen, many states say they're not going to reopen right away. for some, the cost of reopening for safety measures are too burdensome. for many, the overall risks are just too great. one theater told "the new york times," hell know, when asked if he was to reopen. he said if he did and it was traced to his theater. he said, quote, you know what that would do to my business? i wouldn't have one. brian todd, washington.
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>> we just heard from shannon stafford, in brian's report. she's one of the business owners who reopened her business. she joins me live from savannah, georgia. shannon, good to see you, thanks for coming on with us. >> hi, good morning. >> well, you opened your business yesterday. how did it feel? how did it go? >> actually it went pretty well. i decided to only take one customer. i wanted to test out everything that i had put in plan, as far as, you know, everything that i needed into making sure that everything was safe. as far as my protocols, i wanted to see if there was anything that i needed to add or if there was anything that i needed to remove just to make sure that myself and the client were going to be in the safest environment as possible. >> i was reading that you are doing everything that you can
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think of. you're taking your clients' temperature, i understand it, when they come in. you're asking them question, even having them sign a liability waiver, is that right? >> yes, that's right. we're taking temperatures. we have a questionnaire for the client to fill out. along with the assumption of risk and a waiver of liability for them to read over. that's going to be something important. not only for my salon, but a lot of salons all over and other businesses as well who are planning on opening. >> well, i know you that received calls from people in the area around savannah asking you not to open. there is a lot of fear out there, as our previous report just pointed out. how did you come to the decision that you would reopen? >> well, one of the things that i looked at, i felt whether i waited two weeks or i waited a
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month, my risk is still going to be the same. the things that i'm going to have to implement to make sure the safety of myself and clients are going to be the same, whether i wait two weeks, or i wait a month or six months is really going to be no difference. you're still going to have to take the same precautions that i'm taking today for those businesses that's going to remain closed. because the reality of it is, we all are going to have to get back to work. a lot of us are working now. and unfortunately for business owners we're not in a position where we can close down for months at a time or even up to a year and sustain. so, we're going to have to put things in order. whether it's today or whether it's another month from now, you're still going to have to implement those things. that was one of the reasons i decided to reopen. but i wanted to take baby steps in making sure that everything was in order. >> so, i believe you did have a customer.
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were you nervous? i mean, you are in the business of cutting and styling hair, as you just pointed out. so that is something that you do very close to your clients. >> yes. it was a bit of nervousness when she entered into the salon. i think the things that i am implementing not only made myself feel safer, but at all cost, you know, i needed her to feel safe. i was asking her to give me feedback on how she felt about everything that we put in place. and i think i'm doing pretty good with, you know, even when it comes to shampooing, laying her back. we're having her remain with the mask on and to even but a towel over her nose, eyes and mouth. i'm trying to make sure that
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everything is covered. handwashing, sanitizing the station. making sure that my implements are sanitized as well. >> it sounds like you're trying to think of everything you can possibly do to stay safe and be sure that your clients stay safe. do you anticipate business picking up? are clients showing interest in coming in? >> yes. clients have been called to schedule appointments. but i've been very adamant only taking maybe three clients a day right now. i don't really want to go into it full force. >> right. understood. and what about your employees? do you have other stylists? are they coming back to work? >> yes, they have decided to start the week of this this monday. so, i thought by me coming in a couple days before them, that's going to be another thing that was vital for me, as the salon owner, making sure that i put in place as far as these protocols
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is going to be the best thing for all of us. so, yesterday, me only taking one client. today, i'm going to take about three. just to kind of test it out, with the rotation process. so, that's what i've been doing for the past two days. >> well, shannon, we know this is probably a nerve-racking time but you're going forward. we wish you all the best. and a lot of safety and hope it goes all right. thank you so much. >> okay, thank you. >> all the best to you. all right. next here, imagine your little boy named corona. yep. just like the virus. and yep, the kids in school can be tough with their teasing but don't worry, we've got a hollywood happy ending to this one, right after this. there will be parties again soon,
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coronavirus. he had been hospitalized almost a month. and seemed to be doing better an 20 days on a ventilator. but he didn't make it. after he died, his wife found he had written a farewell love note to help this family deal with their grief. she talked about it with our anderson cooper. >> the idea was wednesday morning, he would go off the oxygen part of it, trial it for the day, and then i was told thursday or friday, he would be off the ventilator completely. and i spoke with the nurse tuesday at 9:00, and she said he did fantastic. and he was tired at the end. and they gave him a little bit of a sedative to sleep. i asked if i should facetime or let him rest. she said why don't we let him rest. i'll tell him you called. if he wakes up, i'll call you but just didn't want to set him off. 2:04 wednesday morning, i woke
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up to my phone ringing, it was the hospital. before i even answered it. i just said, oh, god. >> he wrote a note -- that he left in his phone. and part of it reads, i love you guys with all my heart. and you've given me the best life i could have ever asked for. sorry. >> it's okay. jonathan's good with his words, huh? >> yeah. >> do you have friends and family around you? >> i've been able to have -- because my kids tested positive and i was never tested, but they said it was safe to assume that i was positive because my entire family was, we've been able to
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have people come and help us as long as they're -- they wear masks and gloves. and they've just helped with the kids greatly because the last two days have been really hard on them. i'm really trying. but i don't think i'm doing as good a job as i wish i could. >> i mean, obviously your kids are so young, they don't really know what's going on. >> no, i think that's the double-edged sword in it. i'm glad that they're so happy and they're loving and getting played with. and they think it's so much fun. but it's also -- they don't know that they -- they lost the greatest human being. and they'll only ever know their dad through pictures and memories and videos.
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and this note. and, to me, i feel like that's the worst part of this is, that they won't feel the love that i felt for the past ten years with my husband. they'll know about it. but they can't say like i remember feeling that. and anyone who has never had the feeling of jonathan loving them, has seriously missed out. and it breaks my heart. i know he was so scared to miss out on them growing up. and that's one of the hardest things, too. i know he didn't want this. and i know he didn't go feeling like he had done everything he needed to do. i know he left feeling scared and not wanting to go. >> i can tell you, my dad died when i was a little kid, i know he really tried not to die because he did not want to leave my brother and i. and none of us knew him.
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the only thing i can tell you is they will know him through you and the love you have for him, they will feel like they know him. because i know you'll tell stories about him as they grow up and for the rest of their lives. >> yes. my daughter -- my husband for my birthday this year made a photo blanket. and my daughter every night unprompted crawls over to her dad's picture and starts hitting it because she just likes his picture. and the night -- the night prior to my husband passing, my son got his communication device. and his speech teacher was amazing, made a tab so that he could speak specifically to my husband when we could facetime him. i sent a video to the hospital. and it's my son touching. i asked him what do you want to say to dad, and he sit my dad's
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schoolyard bullies have been hard on the little australian boy who happened to be named corona. but corona devries didn't let the name get him down. he wrote a touching letter and a return letter by mail. the happy ending. >> reporter: it's a particularly tough time to be named corona. >> coronavirus, they just kept on saying that. and i get really mad. >> reporter: instead of getting mad, corina devries got writing and picked a very impressive pen
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pal. >> my name is corona, i heard on the news you and your wife have caught the coronavirus. >> reporter: corona grew up knowing tom hanks boy from "toy story" but after a package arrived from the gulf coast, this 8-year-old knows the oscar winner from letters. >> very special. i always think i'm friends. he said i'm a friend of him. >> reporter: the letter begins dear friend corona, your letter made my wife and i feel wonderful. in the end, i thought this typewriter would suit you. ask a grown-up to show you how it works and send us a letter back. the letter signed off and p.s., you've got a friend in me. hanks is back in the u.s. where he recently hosted "snl" nl from his house.
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showing off his australian accent -- >> to get a daily dose of your vege. >> reporter: and now the typewriter is back safely in corona's care. >> adorable boy. a cnn town hall featuring pretty big tv stars take a look. >> this next question is for you. >> it's for me? >> yeah, 3-year-old connor from atlanta, georgia has this question. >> hi, big bird, what are you doing during this stay-at-home order? >> shhi, connor, thank you for e question. i've been reading and drawing pictures on my mask. and i've been writing letters to the grouch.
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. as the u.s. death toll crosses 50,000 lives lost, some businesses re-open to a new world. >> we'll get georgians back to work safely. >> we're trying to keep our business alive and keep my staff able to survive. >> these are our gloves. we'll probably run out by the end of next week. >> one of my managers has three little girls. >> we all have to know what we're going home at night. >> it's safe. there's so much confusion. people are asking is it safe? i don't know what to do. >> i'm going to try it. i feel us as a country we'll have much bigger problems financially if
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