a statewide look but also regional. in other words, he would be looking at what is happening in states like new jersey and states like connecticut. so possibly some light at the end of the very dark tunnel. at least in the very beginning here in the manufacturing or construction business. >> and he said, you know, the governor's office is also talking to businesses. he said in those conversations, it's about their business plan. what kind of equipment do they have? what kind of modifications could that business make if, indeed, they were to reopen. jason? >> yeah. that's correct. he said, look, in talking to some of the bids, he's asking them to look at their own businesses and say, look, if you're planning on reopening soon, how risky is your business? what will you be doing in terms of your business to make it less risky? what is your plan in terms of social distancing, in terms of viefding some your employees with the any particular type of equipment they need. whether it be a mask or

otherwise, for them to do their jobs. and the businesses have to come up with a plan when they go to the state and if they want to get to the point where they are able to reopen. >> uh-huh. dr. philips, with the governor underscoring that the number of deaths is down, the number of cases, hospitalizations are down. what do you want assessed whether it be new york or anywhere else trying to assess whether it's time to reopen >>well, i think that his plan is pretty sound. he is establishing some guidelines sort of in line what the cdc previously released. and with a complete and total lack of federal plan for how businesses should reopen or even how testing should take place. but what he is doing is necessary. i think testing is key here. within his plan, one thing i didn't understand is how the anti-body testing might play into the reopening of businesses because there is a two-week lag, as he said.

it also doesn't necessarily confirm immunity. we're trying to make it clear to people that because your anti-body is test doesn't mean you're necessarily immune. i'm not sure how necessarily that would play in. but what is necessary is increased diagnostic testing. that sort of nasal swab. do you have the virus now testing. and i think one key part he discussed, and it's a great idea, if businesses have the capability to do that testing in house for their own employees. that's critical. one of the businesses that i consult for here in washington, d.c., they have a small medical facility within their large building. they'll be working through the process of trying to figure out if the fda can clear them to, at some point, be able to administer some testing there. >> brian, we know that often the white house, you know, is tuning into these new york governor briefings. there wasn't a briefing yesterday from the white house. they're often taking cues from

the new york governor. how much do you think the nation is using the way in which governor cuomo is handling these briefings. disseminating information. how much do you believe it's almost a gauge for other states on how to proceed? >> yay. because new york is continuing the epicenter of this outbreak in terms of a number of lives lost, it is new york and it is also california and a number of other larger states in the country that are providing cues to all 50 states and to local communities. right. what cuomo said in new york, mayors and other local officials act on. what gavin newsome says in california others act on. the other day he said there's no such thing of reopening to normal. it's reopening with caveats. that's what cuomo is saying today. they're being more candid and honest with the public than the federal government.

president trump paints a fantasy about the country reopening. vice president pence thinks we'll be back after memorial day. these governors in these states are telling a much more accurate story about the gradual resumption of some activities. when you hear him say he doesn't know if baseball games will be played even in empty stadiums. that's a more honest assessment of what is going on now. >> all right. great points. thank you to you. i appreciate it. all right. meantime, let's also shift gears on out of the white house. two white house officials are striking contradictory tones on the state of the u.s. economy. today senior white house advisor kevin hasset delivered a dire warning but treasury secretary steven mnuchin had a much different message. >> it's a grave situation. george, this is the biggest negative shock our economy has

seen. i think we're going to be looking at unemployment rate that approaches rates that we saw during the great depression. >> i think as we begin to reopen the economy in may and june, you're going to see the economy really bounce back in july, august, september. and we're putting it in an unprecedented amount of fiscal relief into the economy. you're seeing trillions of dollars making the way into the economy. i think it will have a significant impact. >> joining me now to discuss is an economics professional at the university of chicago business school and former chairman of the council of economic advisors under president obama. good to see you. >> great to see you. >> which scenario do you believe and how can the white house have the contrasting messages? >> yeah. look, what kevin said is undeniable that the unemployment you've already seen the up and -

unemployment insurance claims hitting by factor of record levels we've never seen before. the thing that confused me a little with secretary mnuchin's statement is the bills that we've passed, the now almost $3 trillion, they were not intended to be stimulus of the form get the economy growing again. they were intended explicitly as relief because we're just trying to weather out what we hope to be a short term shock. so i think they ought to get on the same page. i think kevin is more right in terms of the conditions, but if we approach a great recession or great depression, at least a third of it is going to be self-inflicted. we're not following the path that the other countries around the world that have gotten out of lockdown and their economies are coming back have followed.

which is massive testing, so the only people that have to go into quarantine are the people who have the disease. if we do not do that, we'll be wallowing in the floor for as long as it takes until we start doing that. >> more specifically treasury secretary m secretary said it's an unprecedented situation. it's not a financial crisis. we shut down. and his forecast is by the latter part of the summer, things will be looking up financially because of the changes that are afoot come may or even june. is that overly optimistic? is that undermining the reality? how do you assess that? >> i don't think we know the answer to that question of how fast we'll come back and how rapidly we'll be growing when we come back. i think it's 100% tied to this question of when are with we going to do enough testing so we can get out of lockdown.

so the virus is the boss. the president can say whatever he wants. the governors can say whatever they want. that will not make people go back out to take cruises and go to movie theaters and go to gyms until we have control on that virus. now if what happens in the second quarter is we have a minus 30, and then what happens in the third quarter is we get a plus 8, you know, minus 30 plus 8 is still a big negative number. i don't think anybody should be dancing a jig of triumph if we see a modest rebound that doesn't go nearly enough of the way to restore what has been lost. >> uh-huh. how worried are you? >> i would say i'm pretty worried if the white house and the administration continue to not follow this testing moment. i mean, we've got korea, we've got taiwan, now we've got germany, iceland, australia, new

zealand are knocking at the door. all of those economies did enough testing. they're out of lock down or get ought of lockdown and their economies can recover. if we would just follow that strategy, i think that we can see a nice comeback. thus far, we're not doing that so that makes me nervous. >> umm. all right. thank you. i appreciate your candor. >> great to see you. all right. as the trump administration faces growing criticism of its early response to the coronavirus pandemic, a key official's job now may be in jeopardy. a senior administration official tells cnn the discussions are underway at the white house for a plan to replace the health care and human services secretary alex azar. sara westwood is following this from the white house. what do we know about this latest possible forecast? >> well, we know the concerns about secretary azar's performance have grown such that there are those talks within the

west wing about potentially replacing azar as head of hhs. sources tell cnn it's not necessarily an imminent move that president trump would have to agree to move forward with such a big step. there are also people around turn who are suggesting that removing azar now could add to the chaos surrounding the coronavirus response. it's not necessarily they want the president to do at this moment. there have been signs azar has been on shaky ground. he was removed as head of the coronavirus task force. vice president pence was put in that role given that title. also, recently, michael caputo, a long time loyalist to president trump was installed adds the hhs spokesperson. that was seen as a move. a potential check on azar's authority. also, there have been some finger pointing about say czar's handling of the early days of the coronavirus response. for example, the infighting, the chaos that characterized the earliest days of the coronavirus task force when he was in charge

a lot of that was blamed on azar. and president trump privately fumed about the lack of communication from azar about some of those key early decisions in the coronavirus response, fred. >> and, sara, a top member of the president's coronavirus task force was on cnn today and asked about the president's suggestion of injecting disinfectant as a way to treat coronavirus. what more or how did dr. deborah birx respond? >> reporter: that's right. jake tapper pressed her on the comments about using disinfectant, sunlight somehow as a treatment. something that health experts said nobody should do ever. birx suggested he was having a dialogue. he was processing information from a scientist who presented a study about the effects of sunlight on the virus. dr. birx said that study was important. it was about the effect of sunlight on the version of the virus. the virus that infected people might emit project when they

speak and sing. listen to what she told our colleague jake. >> that was a dialogue he was having between the dhs scientist and himself. for information that he had received and he was discussing. we have made it clear and when he turned to me, i made it clear and he understood that it was not as a treatment. and i think that kind of dialogue will happen. i think what got lost in there, which is unfortunate, i think, in what happened next is that study was critically important for the american people. and you say why was that important? because we had an m.i.t. study that suggests when people are talking and singing, the air virus could be moving forward. >> and to the extent she said she was bothered by the president's comments, she said she was annoyed it was still in the news. but white house officials have been on an extented clean up effort after the president's comments on thursday with the press secretary saying the media

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one of the top medical experts on the white house coronavirus task force tried to tamp down expectations today that once a person recovers from the virus they are immune. dr. deborah birx told cnn it's unclear how long immunity lasts for those who have recovered from coronavirus. >> aibtd body tests have become a key part of the recovery effort. the world health organization said there is currently no evidence that people have recovered from covid-19 and have anti-bodies are protected from a second infection. do you agree with that? >> okay, so w.h.o. is being cautious. let's talk about normal viral infections. so if you and i get a normal viral infection, we develop anti-bodies. some of those anti-bodies what

are what we call functional. they can neutralize the virus. other ones what we call binding anti-bodies and help our cells that pull out those viruss and help eat them and kill them. so all of that is happening simultaneously along with what we call natural killer cells. that's all happening in your body. so when we talk about studying this, the cdc is not only measuring anti-body but looking and seeing whether the anti-body is neutralizing. is it a functional anti-body? at the same time, through the fda and working with hospitals, they're collecting plasma and giving plasma and recovering anti-bodies, recovered people's anti-bodies back to sick people to see the impact it has. so when all of that data together i think it's going to create a very clear picture about anti body. i think what w.h.o. was saying we don't know how long that effective anti-body lasts.

and i think that's a question we have to explore over the next few months and over the next few years. but i think everything that the w.h.o. said should be happening, we're doing here in the united states to help the american people. >> all right. dr. amy compton-philips is the chief clinical officer for providence health. good to see you, doctor. are you surprised there seems to be some confusion over whether a person has developed a certain immunity after having coronavirus or not. because i think dr. birx's explanation is different than what the w.h.o. is referring to in the latest statement. >> i think what what dr. birx is saying is science takes time. this is is a new germ and we need to learn more about it. somewh she's talking about we need to still study it. as she mentioned, most viruss you get once and you're immune for life. with coronaviruses, it's a

little different. the immunity can and and you can get a cold again. a coronavirus cold you might be able to get a cold again after a couple of years. we need to learn exactly what the immunity for this particular coronavirus is like. it means we have to study it a bit longer. >> yeah. and do you find it unusual that, umm, the studies that have taken place are not giving us anything definitive? has there been enough lapse of time, in your view, in order to know a little bit more about this coronavirus? >> there haven't been enough time. so what i would say of the moment is if you want to go get an anti-body, do it as part of a study. so we can rapidly learn. there's dozens of anti-body tests out there now. everything from the point of care tests to doing the really deep science like the cdc is doing with anti-body testing.

they're looking for different ai anti-bodies. we don't know how good the tests are. are they picking up right anti-bodies or is it they're finding anti-bodies to another cousin coronavirus instead of the sars and it's making it confused. it takes awhile in that very morphias set of complex data for us to tease out the truth how the anti-body response is happening to the covid germ itself. >> if we don't know about the m immunity and tests have to continue, is it premature to think it's safe for people to resume going back to work, be in public spaces, et. cetera. >> for the next month or so, i think over the next month we'll learn more about the anti-body response. what i worry about is people getting a test saying they have the anti-body and then assuming they're immune and not doing the

things to protect themselves or their community, you know, saying i'm immune. i'm fine. i don't have to wash my hands. i don't have to wear a face mask. i can go around people who have covid and be not at risk. so i worry about people assuming they're going to be okay while they're still at risk. and i think that really is the biggest challenge we have. >> uh-huh. dr. birx talk abouted a few things they want to learn from anti-bodies. you know, that whether they are neutralizers, you know, or whether, in her view, it was whether there are killer cells, you know, and why do those things make a difference? >> it makes a difference because there's a very unusual thing that can happen. it's a big thing with vaccine development. because everything we're learning about anti-bodies is going to play into how we develop an effective vaccine. what we don't want to do, there are some anti-bodies that can actually make an immune response more -- to actually create a

counter productive immune response. you've heard about the storm. we don't want to give an anti-body that would turn on the immune system nonspecifically and cause an overreaction by the body. >> meaning -- just to understand this. so meaning internally your body is already going to have a reaction to certain germs, you know, or pathogens and will start fighting it but you're saying you don't want to give or, you know, give your body something that is going to make it work in overdrive because then your organs and everything could be harmed? >> you said it exactly right. that we don't want to ined a venner ha -- inadvertently target it with the wrong anti-body. it's important to learn what anti-bodies activate the immune system the right way that kills the virus and doesn't turn on the immune system and cause the wrong reaction. so that's really the science that we have to do right now.

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as the u.s. inches toward the grim milestone of 1 million coronavirus cases, the topic of when to reopen is weighing heavily on the minds of state and local officials across the country, incoming in oklahoma where restrictions are set to be lifted starting this coming friday. however, local officials are able to determine to what extent the reopening will happen. joining me now is the mayor of oklahoma city, david holt. mayor, good to see you. how excited are you about the idea of opening at the end of this week and are you ready? >> well, i'm not excited at all. and i don't think i would be excited about moving into this new transition period. i know that, you know, there has to be a date out there. i recognize we can't shelter in place for the two years that we might live in the shadow of covid-19. there's never going to be a comfortable time to do this

within as long as there's not a vaccine or cure but, you know, we're trying to muddle through and i think that, you know, here in oklahoma city, we did evaluate our data versus the white house criteria. we found we met it barely. we met. obviously, there's external factors. as you alluded to, it's happening at the state level. here in oklahoma city, we have the ability to keep some restrictions in place, but we also have to keep in mind when the restrictions are lifted at the state level, like most mayors of major metropolitan areas, i'm the mayor of less than the half of the people that live in my metro. if the other communities that have a different set of regulations that mirror the state and we try to go our own way, there won't be any public health benefit to that. we had to evaluate all of those factors in deciding we were going to shoplillift shelter in for may 1st. but i've been very, very clear with the people of oklahoma city. whether you ask whether we're

ready or not. the virus doesn't care it's may 1st. it's here and deadly and killed many people in oklahoma city. we don't want to turn the corner and be the other places. so i've been very clear in my communications and we'll continue to be with the people of oklahoma city that we've got to stay on task. we've got to social distance. we have to wash our hands and those things on the local level we'll put conditions in effect on the openings that are not suggestions. they are going to be rules. and the businesses that open on may 1st will have to follow them. these are strict sanitation and social distancing protocols. >> what are the businesses and what are the conditions? >> well, you know, from my perspective, the ones most concerned about are going to be the high-risk places where spread can occur. thinking about hair and nail salons. social distancing isn't possible. you're thinking about restaurants where people gather. obviously, we'll keep the 10 or

less gathering limit in place for social gatherings because that's the white house recommendation. when we look at salons, you know, we'll be, you know, specifying this in the days ahead but, obviously, you know, we're looking at masks, gloves, masks being offered to the customers. when you look at restaurants, we have to look at capacity restrictions, separating the tables. we have to look at masks for servers. all of that is on the table. we'll make them rules you have to follow. >> can businesses afford to do that? they've been closed up and you have conditions but you're asking them to invest in additional resources to help them protect their employees and their customers, which most people wouldn't believe that would be, you know, a ridiculous demand but it's about money and being able to pay for it. can they? >> yeah. well, i don't think they can afford not to. who would want to go into a business that isn't following strict sanitation and social distancing protocols? i mean, for people to have

comfort going into businesses in the future with a virus still in our community, the businesses have to demonstrate their commitment to safety. and, again, it's about lives. that's still our first priority here. >> i want to play a clip now from dr. thomas the director of health security at johns hopkins. here is what he said about oklahoma and the current outlook today. >> oklahoma is coming down from its peak but had a 26% increase in new cases in the last week. it went over the course of the last week from the numbers jumped from a low of 29 new cases last sunday to over 100 new cases just this past thursday and friday. should a state with loez kinds of numbers be reopening then? >> i would be very cautious about doing that.

and i think it should be done very carefully with a lot of monitoring of both hospitalization rate, icu rate, death rates. only about five states, to my count, had two weeks of decline. >> i heard you say you're honoring what the governor is, you know, instructing the state to do but at the same time you are at the present dashs. when you hear from the doctor, does this make you want to take pause even more? >> oh, absolutely. i'm on the same page as the doctor. i've been clear in the comments in the last few days that, you know, my gut said we should wait a few more days. you know, when we look at the white house gaming criteria, you know, that clip you played with referencing the increase in cases, we also had the white house criteria to look at the decrease we currently have in testing personality ages. that's the percentage of people testing positive in the

community. that's ultimately what we passed. but, again, setting that aside. we are in this. we have these external factors the state is lifting regulations. we're trying to make the best of it. but i have deep misgivings about this. my gut would have picked a later date. but we're going to make the best of it and we've got to commit to safety as we do so. >> got it. all right. good luck and be well. oklahoma city mayor david holt. i appreciate it. >> thank you very much. be well. >> thank you. after more than a week of pressure, tyson's says they will now suspend operations at their facility in iowa. next the alarming message one employee at the plant said he got from the company's hr department.

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some 2 million chickens will be euthanized because of the coronavirus. so many employees at chicken plants are unable to show up to work at the processing plants. the chickens being euthanized come from farms across maryland and delaware and it's just another example of the challenges meat and poultry plants have been dealing with during the pandemic as outbreaks at a number of plants across the country are forcing many to close. cnn's gary tuckman spoke with workers at one plant who said they've been left wondering about their health and their future. >> cars rolling into the parking lot of the tyson pork production plant in waterloo, iowa. hundreds of them. the plant itself has been shut down. the employees are waiting in a long line to take company-provided tests for covid-19. the plant only shut this week

after positive covid-tests of employees had reached the 182 mark. earnest works at the plant. >> i'm scared. scared because someone he worked next to for hours is tested positive. he went ahead and got a test on his own. >> i haven't gotten my results back. >> reporter: he's a husband. a father of a baby. and one of many employees at the plant people in the community and local politicians who called for this plant to close much earlier when word of the first infections came to light. he said he called the hr department last week. i was concerned about the coronavirus in the plant. i was scarred for me and my family. >> reporter: what did they say to you? >> they told me, umm, i was, i was, i was safe and they told me, that, umm, everything was okay and they told me i have a better chance of catching the coronavirus going to walmart than at tyson's. come to work. you safe. >> reporter: and did you believe them? >> i wanted to believe them and

then i needed that money at the same time. i went to work. >> reporter: the employee doesn't want to reveal his identity. >> do you think they care about their health? >> not as much as they need to. >> reporter: he waited hours to get tested. he said he got tested on his own last weekend and was negative. felt if he didn't do it at the plant, he might not be allowed to come back to work when it opens. he's angry particularlyhow one of the company dealt with the coworkers. >> she was sick and asked to go home and was told she couldn't go home because she didn't have a fever at the time. a couple of days later, she tested positive. >> tyson hasn't responded to a cnn inquiry about the incident. tyson is paying employees while the plant is closed. however, many workers remain angry at the company. but the president of tyson foods did not seem contrite during an interview on cnn. she said the company is fully committed to employee safety.

>> we're part of the community and everything we've seen the spread of the disease in the community is affecting us and the plant. >> but the much more common sentiment here is the opposite is true. that the spread of the disease and the plant has affected the community. earnest feels that way. >> reporter: will you go back to work once they say it's safe to reopen? >> yeah. i have to feed my family so, yeah. i'll go back to work. >> reporter: after we met him, he found out he tested negative. a feeling of relief amid the continuing tension. gary tuckman, cnn, waterloo, iowa. all right. still ahead, pictures of a little coronavirus liberation. children finally able to play outside in spain following weeks of lockdown. a live report how the recovery is going there next. hey mama, what's up? i'm confused. confused about what, everything ok?

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in spain, it's a sight that hasn't been seen in six weeks. kids allowed outside starting this morning for the first time since the country's lock down began. it was only for an hour and they had to be with a parent and stay close to home but it was a sign of hope for a country that has been one of the worst hit in the world by the coronavirus outbreak. journalist al goodman is in madrid for us. we're also expecting to get a deescalation plan from spain's prime minister this week, al? >> reporter: that's right, frederica. the kids have been out en masse here across the country. we've seen them on bicycles, scooters, walking, being carried by their parents. i talked to a 9-year-old boy who

said he was bored at the house for the past six weeks. i talked to a 12-year-old boy who said it was strange to be home for that long. that's a big deal, six weeks at home but the prime minister and health officials didn't want to do this until they could get the numbers, the stajts in the coronavirus pandemic numbers down. a tragedy for each of the families. in the peak, 900s per day and more recoveries than more cases. that's why this phase. the prime minister saying a de-escalation in nay and june bus phased. not all at once. they don't want to have a big second wave where the hospitals would be overwhelmed again. so next saturday if everything goes well with the kids, if they can stay apart, not be with other families, social distancing, adults will be able to go out and do sports, elderly people able to take a walk. the prime minister and health official, looking, fredricka, at

different parts of spain his less hard than for instance here in the capital which had so many cases and so many deaths. the other regions may get out sooner than the capital. >> always good to see you. especially outside now in madrid. thank you. italy says 260 people were killed by the coronavirus in just the last 24 hours. the country's lowest daily total, however, since mid-march. while frustration mounts with lockdowns in the u.s. and in europe, in italy, there has been only muted protests, as cnn ben wedeman explain, much of that is due to the country's reverence for older italians. [ bell tolls ] >> reporter: for more than six week, lockdown has been a way of life for italians. while elsewhere there have been protests calling for a return to normal life -- >> it's all quiet on the

italian. >> reporter: this man spoke to me from the hard-hit modern province. >> you hear the sound of ambulances every day as we have for the last six weeks. you don't really like new yorkers now, you don't really need much to be convinced. that's why i say, okay. i think it makes sense to stay home. >> reporter: italy was the first country to impose a nation-wide shutdown. during which a usually unruly people has been largely willing to obey the rules. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> translator: i never expected italians to be so displaineased. >> reporter: in part because the death toll from coronavirus has been so high.

more than 25,000. in part, because of who is dieing. the average age of death from the virus is 79. here in this area, the grandparents are national institutions. >> these old people are considered very important, because they're pieces of history. you learn tr them from them. >> reporter: in a country that's seen empires rise and fall, family is the one constant. >> respect. asked basically to do nothing, to do something. so we stay home. and we take it easy. and it's our way to protect our, yeah, our maybe oldest people. >> reporter: yet the longer the lockdown goes on, the gloomier the prospects for italy's economy. for now the government says the country can start to reopen may 4th. the reopening will be cautious.

it will be gradual. italy can ill-afford a second wave of this virus. an entire generation, the nation's history, is at stake. ben wedeman, cnn, rome. >> hmm. still ahead, contradictory views on the state of the economy, and it's coming from two top white house officials. so are we in the midst of a great depression? or will the economy bounce back soon? we're live, next. awesome internet.

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some nba players may be able to begin working out at team-owned gyms by end of the week. espn reports that the league plans to reopen practice facilities this friday in states where local governments eased stay-at-home restrictions. sources tell the network that players will be able to work out individually but not as a team. the league suspended its season on march 11th after a player tested positive for coronavirus. the nba has not announced plans to restart the season. people in bowie, maryland, are rallying around a beloved community member who lost her husband to covid-19. a motorcade going past the home of tamela taylor orr. a principal. her husband, a 55-year-old died suddenly after contracting the virus earlier in the month. her friends, colleagues and students wanted to find a

special way to show their support while also paying tribute to her husband. hello again, everyone. thank you so much for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. we begin with two of president trump's top economic advisers striking very different tones on the economic impact of the coronavirus. treasury secretary steve mnuchin painting a rosy picture on the recovery prospects this morning saying he expects the economy to really bounce back by september. while seener white house adviser kevin hassett delivered a very dire warning. >> make no mistake. it's a really grave situation. george, this is the biggest negative shock our economy has ever seen. we'll look at unemployment rate approaching rates we saw during the great depression. >> hassett noting that the u.s. lost just under 9 million jobs