paul, david and douglas and two grandchildren and their families. richard was 83 years old. we offer our deepest condolences to their families and all of the families, mourning loved ones tonight. may they all rest in peace, and may their memories be a blessing. erin burnett "up front" starts right now. clear cut evidence, those are the words of dr. anthony fauci, expecting om nix, about a potential treatment for coronavirus. doctors leading the study of this drug, up front. and florida's governor announcing plans to reopen the state but excluding some of the state's biggest counties and we will talk with the mayor of miami who is not part of the governor's plan. and is sweden brilliant or reckless? why is sweden not hunkering down? and can the united states learn something big? let's go out front. good evening, i'm erin burnett "out front" tonight, a grim new hope amid grim numbers,

and a day that the united states hit 60,000 deaths from coronavirus. dr. anthony fauci putting his krelkts on the line to tout what he describes as significant news on a possible treatment for coronavirus. >> the data shows that remdesivir has a clear-cut significant positive effect in diminishing the time to recover. this drug happens to be blocking an enzyme that the virus uses. >> according to dr. fauci, you heard it, the results from the preliminary trial show that remdesivir improved recovery time for coronavirus patients solidly, 15 zais for the placebo, 11 days for the people on the drug, and that is important. there are still big questions tonight. faufrpy admitting that the drug did not show a statistically significant benefit in whether patients actually died. news of a potential treatment though was enough for markets. the dow surging more than 530

points today. on that study result alone. and tonight, the fda is reportedly planning to okay the emergency use of remdesirvir that may fast-track recovery and by the say fast-track it cutting off eight, nine months or more in the normal approval process. erica hill live in new york, and more states announcing plans to loosen restrictions. >> reporter: yes, that's right. we just heard from the florida governor ron desantis talking about phase one for his state, which will go into effect on monday. retail store, restaurants, will be allowed to reopen but at limited capacity. 25%. and tables need to be six feet apart. bars, gyms and hair salons notably will remain closed. but perhaps the most striking development in learning about this plan is that it does not include the entire state. >> florida, ready to reopen. >> there is a light at the end of the tunnel. this new phase will start on monday, may 4th. and will, for the time being,

exclude miami-dade, broward, and palm beach counties. nearly 30% of the state's residents including hard-hit miami-dade county, excluded from the governor's plan, giving restaurants and businesses the green light. >> the tampa bay times reports the state's death toll may be incomplete. noting florida officials have not released information on coronavirus deaths in more than a week. and earlier report in the paper found the number from county medical examiners was 10% higher than the state's official count. which now stands at 1218. haircuts in georgia, one of the first signs of that state's reopening. while in california, any professional trims are still months away. a striking example of how different the next steps will be. >> we have significantly less cases than we had two weeks ago or three weeks ago but it is time to enter a more sustainable phase. >> more than half the states in the country announcing plans to ease restrictions, despite none

appearing to meet white house guidelines for a 14-day decline in positive cases. meantime, new hope for a treatment. >> remdesivir has a clear-cut significant positive effect in diminishing the time to recovery. a drug can block this virus. >> the next big retail experiment comes on friday, when three dozen malls and shopping centers will reopen in eight state, georgia and tennessee welcoming diners. but it is not clear americans are ready for these changes. new polling shows eight in ten think opening restaurants or on-site dining is a bad idea. nearly two-thirds say the same about returning to work without further testing. 85% say students shouldn't go back to school without more testing. when they do return, it's likely to look much different. >> it's not back to normal. it's modified. that means potentially

staggering school time force different cohorts of kids. it means the recess period being radically modified. it means cafeteria being shut down, and people getting food around their desk. deep sanitation. >> the economy continuing to take a hit. first quarter gdp down nearly 5%. the president using the defense production act to keep the country's meat processing plants open. more than 20 facilities have closed over the past two months. because of positive cases. at least 20 workers have died. according to the union representative many of them. >> they're absolutely critical and essential to the food supply chain. you have to protect them. >> it may slow the line down a bit. it may require them to expand some resources for protective equipment and for other safety measures. but at the end of the day, this is essential work for the country. and these are essential workers. and they deserve adequate protection. >> in some states, employees who choose not to return may lose government benefits. >> it's a voluntary quit, and so

therefore, they would not be eligible for the unemployment money. >> farmers unable to process their livestock, creating a damaging ripple effect, as the need for food assistance skyrockets. >> we're alone and our neighbor, she's alone, too, so that's why we appreciate it. >> the kids, it's hard for thome. >> lines stretching for miles. many americans turning to food banks for the first time in their lives. in little rock, a planned four-hour food distribution ran out in just an hour. each box offering families the equivalent of 40 meals. here in new york state, the number of confirmed cases now just shy of 300,000. according to the new numbers from the governor today. he said overall hospitalizations and intubations are down, but new covid hospitalizations are in the words of governor cuomo

up a tick and as he said, erin, that is not good news. >> all right, thank you very much, erica. i want to dig deeper into the remdesivir story with two doctors who are involved in the trials and our own dr. sanjay gupta. i want to go first to dr. tylo, infectious diseases at northwestern western, in charge of northwestern's branch of the nih study and doctor, i appreciate your study and people hear this and the stock market jumped dramatically in response to the news of the studies. explain the significance of what you found from the nih study of remdesivir. >> yes, thanks very much. this is the first time that a drug that showed promise in the laboratory actually crossed the bridge, and demonstrated efficacy in the patient population for whom it has been tested. and so the trial that was reported today showed that looking at two important metrics

of patient outcomes, number one, time to recovery, and number two, survival, the study at least, the data that we have now, showed good results. >> so in terms of the recovery, obviously, we've said, it shortened the time to recovery, notably, from 15 days to 11, in patients who were sick. but obviously, you say it trends towards improving survival, right? whether people actually live, wouldn't have lived otherwise. there is still an 8% mortality rate. i understand from your study when the drug is administered. dr. fauci today though said, that's an improvement. it was 11% before. but he noted that that improvement is not statistically significant. and ultimately, that is what matters, right? does this drug save lives? do you have any concern about the results on that front? >> no, i do not. because the results that were reported today really is a small taste of the entire report. the final analyses is still a

few weeks away. but what was reported is strong enough to say that at least the trend, although it was not significant, it was still important, and the expectation is that when all of the results come in, it hopefully will reach that metric. >> so you're saying the expectation, when there is more data that's coming in the next few weeks, is that it will be a statistically significant improvement in terms of people living who would not otherwise have lived. >> that is the expectation. of course, until the data comes, the full results come, in we cannot make that statement. but everything that we've seen so far gives a lot of optimism and hope that in fact, that's what's going to happen. >> right. well, obviously, that's the significant point. and you're looking at the data. so obviously, everyone is hoping that that is what turns out. another doctor working on the nih study, said that remdesivir and i quote is not the ends of the story, we can always do better. do you think there is another drug that can be used this fast

that is out there? >> well, i don't know that we have something else that works exactly the way that remdesivir works which is really an anti-viral, that we could make the statements about. but remember, that covid has two ways in which it can hurt someone. the first is that its viral activity, just the virus making copies of itself. the other way is through the profound inflammation that it causes, that is really something that comes into effect much later in the course of the disease. so there are compounds being looked at, to look, to address that other component of the disease spectrum. so the anti-viral, like remdesivir is one component. the other component negates the inflammation that the virus provokes and i think at the end of the day, it's quite likely that combination of these kinds of different, different kinds of

medications that we need to make a difference. >> doctor, i appreciate your time tonight. and now i want to bring in dr. saruna, the principle investigator of gilead study, and the professor of infectious diseases at stanford. given the results of what we're seeing here, do you expect emergency approval from the fda very soon? have you talked to them, you know, basically, i'm just referring, so people understand, to an approval process where they have access to your data, to be able to give you an early approval here that would skip many months of what is the ordinary process? >> i think everything is different now, right, and covid, this pandemic, has changed the way we look at things, and so i wouldn't be surprised if things are much faster now, all the data is quite optimistic, our study looked at five days versus ten days of drugs, and outcomes were overall good, and it's very promising, the data that is

coming out from the nih study, so i wouldn't be surprised if things are much faster. >> do you think this drug truly is a game changer? i think it will be an important useful tool, in our tool kit, but we still need to look at all of the data. so far, we know that it's safe and tolerable and we're able to get even the sick patients out of the hospital, up to 64% of patients are able to get out of the hospital, by 14 days. these are all good things. and we know we don't need to necessarily treat for ten days, five days looks like it's quite good, so there are a lot of promising data here. i think we're hopeful about it. and it will be a wonderful addition to our tool, or actually the first thing in our tool kit now. >> and that's, i think, why the response has been such that it is, even dr. fauci, you know, sieging for him a bit gleeful, that there could be something. there is a group of scientists including several nobel prize

winners who have been looking at treatments, and doctor, they've been talking to the white house as well, and they see great promise in remdesiiri and one of the main focuses, they think it is encouraging, they have been writing very clearly that they think you should consider doubling the dosage and starting the treatment earlier in symptomatic patients. are those things on the table? doubling the dosage? >> we are looking at overall dosage, definitely what's on the table, i know, is earlier treatments, it looks like the earlier you start any anti-viral, the better, but especially in this, people who are treated within the first ten days of symptoms really do better overall, and they have better outcomes in terms of leaving the hospital, and improving their oxygen status. >> all right. doctor, thank you very much, i appreciate your time tonight. >> sure. and i want to go straight now to dr. sanjay gupta. look, those doctors are

presented their results, obviously, the reaction broadly out there was ebulient, and even dr. fauci for him seemed a bit giddy about the possibility and he raised a critical issue, in the data we have so far, no statistical improvement in terms of whether you live or die. and the doctor said he is much more optimistic over the next couple of weeks when they gifbl us the full data, but what is your take so far on these results? >> this is the first thing that we've seen, ain, that has had any impact at all, so i mean this is no doubt, it's good news, i can tell you, i've been following the story, of remdesivir for a long time, since the ebola days of 2014. it didn't work for that. and when i was following with the world health organization since january, this was the medication that they were focused on. a lot of people focused on. but we didn't know. you know, we just doesn't know if it was going to work. so this is the first time we've really seen that there is this proof of concept, that it can

work. now, it's a question of doing all of the things that aruna was talking about, figuring out what exactly the right dose is, who to give it to exactly, and i think another big question, is might it decrease the amount of virus in people's noses and mouths, even after they recover, because erin, as you know, if it does that, that could also decrease the spread of this as well. so i don't want to get too far ahead of it. these are early studies. we probably wouldn't even be talking bem b-them on your program under other circumstances but ald as aruna said, we don't have anything in the toolbox right now. this might be something in the toolbox, it might be in combination with other drugs and most likely given to patients early in the illness who have high risk and the other pre-existing diseases such as diabetes or heart disease or something. >> and i know there are safety profiles and there is a concern how much there is, as there will be for anything in that sense. but what about this issue on mortality? i know it went from 11% and then

to 8%. that may sound significant to people, but indeed, as dr. fauci pointed out, it was not statistically significant at this point. again, you heard the doctor say he thinks that is going to change and that it will be. but ultimately, in terms of the what really matters, for people, is whether these drugs change whether you're going to live or die. >> it does. even if you look at other anti-virals like tamiflu for example, and you tout the benefits it is usually in terms of reducing the duration and the severity of the disease. you're right. we do need to see the data on mortality. and people will look at that and say 8 and 11.6, that seems significant but you're absolutely right, erin, when you actually look the at numbers, it is hard to attribute the increased survival to the drug. that's why what it means by saying it is not significant. we can't say the increased survival, 8% versus 11% was because of remdesivir. maybe the increased numbers will

bear that out. and the fact that we now have proof of concept that this seems to be working as an anti-viral, decreasing the amount of virus replication in the body, and that's why people are getting out of hospital and recovering more quickly, you know, that does lend some credence to the idea that maybe it will in larger numbers decrease mortality. we can't say that yet. and more studies are going to need to be done. i absolutely think it is going to be approved under the emergency use authorization. the bar is relatively low lately as you know because we're in the middle of a pandemic. >> with antibody tests -- >> exactly. land is a lot of bad antibody tests that came out as a result. but i think remdesivir is something that a lot of people have been focused on for a long time and it is the first glimmer of good news we've had in a while. >> the president also talked about testing today. he said we're going to see some, his word, astonishing numbers on testing over the coming weeks. again, saying i don't know that all of that is even necessary. what's your reaction to that? whatever numbers he may be

talking about, they already put out some numbers which would exceed any known testing ability in the country. but is it possible to test too much as he implies? >> i don't think that that's a concern, that i think anybody in the public health community has right now that we're going to test too much. i mean it is the key to everything, erin, both in terms of finding the virus, but also psychologically, getting the country back on its feet. people need to know if they're infect and they may need to be tested multiple times. when we say millions of tests are necessary, it doesn't mean everybody in the country will be tested but people, you, me, as we go into public place, start to do things more, we will need to have some confidence we don't have the virus and testing is key to that. >> janjay, thank you very much. next, the breaking news out of florida tonight of the mayor of miami announcing there is a plan in florida to reopen the state but. so state's biggest counties are not included. including miami. we will speak to the mayor. >> and sweden says it is fighting the coronavirus but not

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breaking news. florida's governor, ron desantis saying he will begin to reopen businesses, restaurants in his state but included are miami-dade, broward and palm beach county, the three biggest counties in the state of florida. 30% of the population. now, the mayor of miami, francis suarez, good to have you back, mayor, i appreciate your time tonight. do you agree with the governor? >> i do. i do think that it makes a lot of sense to exempt miami-dade, broward, and palm beach county. miami-dade alone has one-third of all of the covid cases in the entire state of florida. so i do think just as we were at liberty to implement stay-at-home orders, curfew, and things of that nature, on the front end, we're working tremendously to curve the increase in covid cases and to allow to get that early, i think it is imperative that the governor allow us to make those kinds of decisions as things hopefully continue to improve. we in the city of miami are

taking a very cautious approach. tomorrow, i hope to speak to the surgeon general and see if we can begin, when we can begin our phase one plan as well. >> so obviously, they're talking about reopening on monday. which is less than a week away. you have given different phases, but how quickly do you think you can get to that point? so they're talking about restaurants and other businesses, when do you, at this point, and i know data could change, mayor, but when do you at this point think you would be where he is on monday, for the rest of the state? >> we're not sure yet, to be honest. we have to discuss it with some of the expert, the epidemiologists from dade county, as well as the surgeon general, which we hope to speak to tomorrow, to get a clearer picture. we had a good day today, only 100 new cases. and obviously, only is a word that i use very carefully, because any case is too much. i was case number two in the entire county of now close to 12,000 cases. so one case is too many.

but what's happening is we're analyzing the data, as you said, da day in and day out, and we're hopeful once we're able to consult with the experts we will have a definitive time line which will probably be beyond the may 4th date. >> so this comes as the tampa bay times, mayor, is reporting florida's medical examiner's commission has basically just stopped releasing a list of coronavirus deaths and that was as the state health department intervened and according to the paper, state health officials say the list needed to be recovered and public redact and that list has been held for nine days is this what you're hearing? and does this make sense to you that this would happen, is it logical? >> does that does not make sense to me. i've not heard that before. this is the first i hear of that. obviously, we're tracking symptoms, we're tracking new cases and of course we're tracking deaths, so it's imperative that we have the information that we need to make

good decisions on the ground. the covid dashboard had been updated twice a day, that is incredibly important for us as policy makers and certainly, the ability of the governor, and the ability of the surgeon general has been very important for us as a team, to be able to make prudent decisions for our residents. >> so if they're holding this for nine days, they're saying, their response was, the chairman of the medical examiner, was this is no different than any other public record we deal with it is paid for by taxpayers dollars and the taxpayers have a right to know. do you take that as face value? or are you concerned that there is some sort of a desire to recategorize deaths? >> i sincerely hope not. i think we need to get the information in realtime, as quickly as possible. and that's what i thought that we had been getting up to this point. like i said, the dashboard is updated in the morning and notice afternoon, and really, as you mentioned in the beginning of the segment, it's important for us to get the daily data as

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if america did not meneed t shut down to fight the virus? sweden is doing that. showing us what maybe it could have been like. phil black is out front. >> to visit sweden now is to enter a strange land, where people can just hang out together. seek shelter from the cold at cozy restaurants. go for a drink or a coffee.

>> all of the bars and restaurants. >> you can shop for fashion and beauty products. >> or even allow a hairdresser to invade your personal space. >> we've accepted it. >> we've accepted it. >> and in the meantime, it's important to look good. >> yes. >> that sums up the authority's approach here. covid-19 is going to be around for a while. and society must fine a way to live with it. so no forced lockdown. instead, an emphasis on personal responsibility. please work from home. keep to yourself in public. the official rule in bars and restaurants is stay an arm's length apart. no gatherings of more than 50 people. elementary and middle schools are still open. while college and high school study at home. the state epidemiologist drives the policies and claims success in flattening the curve and

keeping serious cases within hospital capacity, and he says it's a good thing, his agency estimates 26% of stockholm's population has now been infected, because in theory, that means more immunity. >> but you insist that heard immunity is never a goal. >> no, but it will help us achieving our goal, which is slowing down the spread as much as possible, so that we can keep good health care running. for a small country, sweden is already paying a big human cost. more than 2,400 people have died here. and vastly greater numbers than neighboring countries which imposed much tougher restrictions. >> that is true. >> what do you take from that? >> that we need to investigate and we know for sure, one of the reasons why, is that we have this huge amount of cases in -- >> it is a disturbing trend, half of those who have died here live in care homes. swedish government admits they

failed to protect the elderly. the open policies are broadly popular here, about thrust is anger, too, especially among those who have lost so much to the virus. >> i'm so sorry. it hurts. >> this woman buried her father joseph on monday. she says he and many others would still be alive if sweden had chosen a different path. >> there is people dying. and they are human beings, like me, like you, like my dad. they are not just statistics and numbers. >> erin, sweden's experience will inform governments around the world, as they plot their exits from lockdown. but the authorities here say it is still too early to judge their actions, because they say they like governments everywhere are still desperately trying to save lives while struggling against a threat they're only

just beginning to understand. erin? >> thank you very much, phil. and i want to go now to "the new york times" columnist thomas freedman, and tom, you know, you have been doing a lot of research on sweden's approach, you wrote a column about it today, and sweden says they're in a better place to withstand the virus, the death rate is higher than neighboring country, they obviously have had some changes but they kept their economy open, their schools open. >> from what you learned, what do you think of the path they chose? >> well, erin the way i look at this is everyone is looking for a kind of sweet spot, a balance, between saving lives and saving livelihoods, because if you crush the economy, you're also going to kill people in the long run. everyone is looking for that sweet spot. there are three different approaches out there. sweden's approach was keep a lot of the economy open. as your report suggested. let the vast majority of the population who are under 60, who don't have pre-existing conditions, who, if they meet the coronavirus, will be either

asymptomatic or not require hospitalization. and in theory, that was the theory, protect the elderly. they did not protect the elderly well enough. but the result of this is that they are now about 25, 30% toward heard immunity. that is the goal. you only get herd im community to a disease through one of two ways. through a vaccine or by exposure to it and developing the antibodies. so when your report says that they lost more people, that is true, today, in the long run, you got this, this experiment is still to be judged, you really got to look out six months or and a year compared to naips, the second model is china. the china model was suppress, it, break the chains of transmission and do authoritarian, tracking, tracing sequestering, using all of the powers they have and no civil liberties and they've managed to keep it down, but they have not developed a herd immunity. they're waiting for a vaccine. the third model is america. it's florida, georgia, california, new york, it's everyone for themselves, and

some open, some closed, and that is very worrying, because you know, this virus, as the doctor said, if you don't respect it, it will kill you or someone you love. and you can be tired, but it's not tired. and you can feel like going out, but it will be out there. and until we have herd immunity, either through a vaccine, or empt posure, you're taking a chance. >> and you know, okay, so to that, this is, what are americans going to do now? and researchers at the university of maryland have been using smartphone data for more than 100 million people to track how well they're complying with stay at home guidelines and they say there was a record, the number of people staying home on easter sunday, two days later, that number started to drop and it has continued to drop since then, consistently, across the country. how long can you realistically keep americans on lockdown, and that is the pressure, the kinds of tide-building, that these governors are feeling. >> well, again, you know, i really go back, you have to have

a sustainable strategy. sweden's sustainable strategy was really build herd immunity. china's sustainable strategy is track and trace and quarantine. what is our sustainable national strategy? we have federal guidelines, that everyone is ignoring, we have different states operating differently. and then we have individuals all basically operating on their own time lines. that is a prescription for this virus to come back. because you can be watching the market today, and feel like wow, things must be getting better, but let me tell you something, this virus, this virus does not open its day at 9:30 and does not close at 4:00, it does not take saturday and sunday off. it is out there. and unless you have a sustainable strategy to suppress, track, and trace, or to build herd immunity, until there is a vaccine, or build herd immunity, you don't have a strategy. and i think we're going to by default end up with herd immunity but in a very messy dangerous way. >> so i've been thinking about

dr. john, one of the leading voices of epidemiologist and you know him, too, and he says the u.s. needs more data to keep the u.s. under lockdown and you don't know what the death rate is because you don't know how many people have had it and there is some sort of mob mentality operating that they just insist that this has to be the end of the world and it has to be that the sky is falling. what do you say to that? which i think does encapsulate to your point, how, you know, plenty of individuals in this country feel, if we judge by their actions. >> well, i think that's for every individual to decide. i'm one of the people who very early on as you recall felt that we did have to have a sustainable strategy to save lives and livelihoods a there and is a danger in the media, we all helped hype this, when you get, you know, one person here, or one 20-year-old there, it's all in the news. the fact is, erin, the vafts majority of people who encounter

this disease, encounter it either asymptomatically or with a tough or a soft flu and they recover, they don't die, and we need to have a strategy that says we are going to protect the most vulnerable, the elderly, and those with, you know, other vulnerabilities, and then basically risk, or feed them into the workplace, those who are most likely to encounter it, easily, or asymptomatically, and get back to work. but my point is, you have to have a strategy. the virus does not know the border between florida and georgia. and we have no national strategy. >> tom, thank you. i always appreciate talking to you. >> my pleasure. next, las vegas casino owners, they want to open. nevada's governor now says wait. and is baseball about to come back? one season mlb reporter's source says yes. he will tell you what he's hearing.

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tonight, the ceo of wynn resorts telling president trump he believes the las vegas strip could open by memorial day. which is less than a month from today. casinos in las vegas are eager to reopen. workers have been hit incredibly hard by the shutdown. kyug lah is out front. >> reporter: las vegas, as we've never seen or heard before. the entire vegas strip, shut down. 100% of casino doors closed. tourists gone. >> it's like a ghost town. it's really sad. >> reporter: it's why alicia garcia and so many other laid-off casino workers are in this line. miles of cars. hundreds of families. wait outside the boulder station casino. not here for work. but for free food. from the food bank. >> i have never seen myself to do this before. i never saw myself to do this

before. but what can you do? >> reporter: a cancer survivor, marcella had a great union job with the mgm casino just weeks ago. >> i said before that, i'm not going to go over there, because maybe there is somebody else, somebody who needs that. and then now, i have to do it, i haven't got any unemployment. >> guess what? the face of hunger in las vegas today looks like you and me. over half the folks have never been in a line like this asking for help. these are regular people, who are working solid middle class jobs and their lives just capsized overnight. >> are you saying this is ground zero for the economic damage? >> i'm not saying that. i know that this is ground zero. >> reporter: the lights have essentially shut off on the nevada economy. one based on tourism and leisure. no tourists. no entertainment. making coronavirus a bigger blow to vegas than the 2008 financial crisis. >> we're track that this is

worse, because at that time, at least we had some occupancy within the hotels. >> reporter: the chair woman of the clark county commission which covers the strip says key now, how casinos reopen. >> whether we open soon, i would rather open slow and methodical. i don't think anybody wants to close a second time. >> they have begun rolling out open plans and there will be no cleaning measures like thermal camera, electro static sprayers with hospital-grade disinfectant and v light disinfection. >> and they expect that new normal, the economy will at best crawl back. >> he drove up to the food bank in the hummer. it is what he used to drive vegas visitors around. covid changed life like a switch. >> scary. it makes you realize, you know, what you used to have and now you don't have it, right? >> so there is some traffic on

the las vegas strip, but it is a fraction of what you would normally expect, because a lot of these casinos are closed and here's something else, you see how empty the sidewalk is? this would normally be packed with people. the reason it's not, is because there are no tourists here, and even the bellagio fountains are off, erin. we did try to go inside some of these casinos, we put in multiple requests and the casinos say until they hear from the governor specifically what the plans are on reopening, it is just too soon for them to allow cameras in. erin? >> thank you very much. that was pretty incredible to see, looking over the fountain, every time you go there, you can't even get up along that edge to look over, that's how crowded it is, a sobering reminder what the world is like now. thank you very much. and "out front" now, baseball fans may have reason to rejoice this morning. could there be games this summer? we will talk to an insider about the mlb's plans behind the

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and online tools you need. and now it's no different. because helping you through this crisis is what we're made for. new tonight, play ball. usa today reporting major league baseball officials are holding in-depth talks about starting the 20 to season within weeks. it's plain that would include letting all 30 mlb teams play at their home parks. hard to understand if they're all home. dr. fauci tells ryan zimmerman he believes baseball could be in the cards this year. >> i think there is a pathway there, ryan. i hope that there is some form of baseball this summer, even if it's just tv. >> okay. "out front" now, the usa today reporter who broke the story, bob nightingale, you've been talking to a lot of sources, mlb

officials about this plan. near in the know. they don't want to be named, but they're giving you really detailed information. so, what are you hearing? >> well, right now just a tentative plan, but the plan is hopefully by early june, the players will report to spring training, the 2.0 version. then within three weeks play regular season games, hopefully in their own ballparks. so every team will still be able to use their own facilities, and realign baseball in the sense where there will be three divisions of ten teams apiece instead of six divisions and five teams apiece. this will limit travel and also players would not have to go across country trips, just very short trips. in some cases, bus rides. >> so president trump today said, bob, he didn't like the proposal that had been supported by the arizona governor which would have all 30 teams play the entire season in arizona. you know, basically then you

could have the regular season, but they'd all have to be in one place. there have been talk of playing games in arizona, florida, texas, too. based on your reporting, are any of these options still available? >> the arizona one is not. the players just don't want to do that. they don't want to be isolated. they don't want to be away from their families 4 1/2 months. they don't want to be in arizona and florida all summer long either. they want to be home and just make it like any regular season where you would still have home games, you would have road trips. be home with your family. granted there won't be fans at the stadiums at least at the get-go, but at some point baseball is hopeful they could have at least limited attendance before the season is out. >> so, on that front, taiwan today, south korea, i'm sorry, their baseball season is going to launch next tuesday. taiwan was the first to return. but there is going to be no fans for now. this is how it looks. so people always say baseball

journalists, the real opening day is the day fans are allowed back. that's your adrenaline rush, your energy. it's hard to imagine playing in an empty stadium. so what is the fan situation as you hear it? >> well, at the start it looks like there's almost zero chance of fans being permitted into the stadiums. just a lot of states will not allow that. they are hopeful by the end of this season, late summer you allow some fans in. maybe 1,000, 2000, 5,000. perhaps by the postseason, which would take place in late october, all the way through thanksgiving weekend, then you would have a large amount of fans. probably not sell-outs. keep it distancing, but make it more like real baseball the way everybody is used to. >> bob, thank you very much. sort of a ray of hope a lot of people need. bob, thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> and next i'll speak to a patient who took remdesivir,

that experimental drug that is showing promise for treatment for coronavirus. so, does he believe it worked? and president trump rips into his right-hand man, his campaign manager. what made him so angry at a guy who, by the way, is the picture of loyalty?

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good evening. i'm erin burnett and welcome to a special edition of "out front." tonight a potential breakthrough in fighting coronavirus. the fda planning to announce the emergency use of remdesivir after promising results from a's clinical trial. dr. anthony fauci suggesting that this is a breakthrough. >> it is a very important proof of concept because what it has proven is that a drug can block this virus. we think it's really opening the door to the fact that we now have the capability