realistically do this? kids are kids and they're going to run around and be together. >> that's a good question. that's what we are talking to people across the state and educators across the state. you can come up with a plan which is very hard and talking about spaces. there is the other question of k k-12 and how do i get students not to socially distance. how can you tell them that? we'll air on the side of caution now for the rest of the school year. summer school, you would need to see a drop or stable aigs iliza

the infection rate for a period of time because kids are going to be kids. i think you are right. >> how are we going to manage all this and they don't have money for this right now for more classrooms? >> you could not build more classrooms for summer schools or the fall. money is going to be tight depending what washington does. they're doing remote learning and physical consequences because of this period. some ways they'll save or cost money. >> do you anticipate a decision on this week in terms of businesses? >> may 15th. >> you are announcing prior to

that. >> it has been two months since the first cases reported and can you spoke of what we have accomplished and at least 18,000 people and at least 300,000 people sick. how would you evaluate your performance during this crisis? >> i try my best. should new yorkers expect it to happen here as well? >> well, we are aware of what new jersey is doing and what connecticut is doing. we are trying to coordinate with those states from day one. you will not have uniform policies across all the states but knowing what other states are going to do because states can have significant effect on a

neighbor state, knowing what they do is helpful and the appropriate time we'll make those decisions. the decisions are on summer activities are very difficult. you want to look at the tension and you want to get people out of their homes and give them something to do. you want to keep the infection rate down. you have these mental health issues and domestic violent issues and you have a lot going on so you do want a relief valve, right? it is going to get hot in the summer. you want a level of activity, you don't want to overwhelm a city by keeping everything close but you don't want to have high density and violation and social distancing. that's what we are trying to work for the summer activities. we have a little more time and we are talking about it now. >> governor of new york andrew cuomo giving his briefing in

albany. lower hospitalization rates and intubation rate. the governor announcing no schools in new york will reopen this academic school year. summer school decisions will be made down the road. schools is likely will begin in the fall. the governor had to rate his performance and he said i try my best. >> the focus on the 900 newly diagnosed covid-19 cases from day-to-day, trying to get a sense why is that number holding stable right there. who are these people? are they people at home getting infected of are they essential workers out everyday. joining me now to discuss that our dr. mena. it is good to see you again.

you h so you have a steady number of 900 to 1100 or so. when you have a number that's so stubborn like that, what's the importance of trying to figure out is it one or two population or more widespread. thas t is that the idea? >> absolutely. you are trying to understand how to control this in the future. we have to understand what's going on now. this is where one of the areas where contact tracing can be important to try to track down every single case and understand what commontialities between the people, is it people walking on the sidewalks or the transportation they are using or they're really trying to get to the bottom of this and where they are getting infected despite the shutdown.

it is going to be crucial as we control this and move into the future. >> as we try to figure it out and another thing we have seen in the state of new york, the governor said i tried my best. he thinks the steps they took did flatten the curve. i want you to listen to another expert talking about looking at the meat packing industry in seattle where coronavirus spreads like fire. his long-term outlook. listen. >> once it gets into a meat packing plant for prison or facility, look how fast it spreads. it is going to continue to do that until 60% or 70% of the population being infected. this is going to continue until that happens. >> explain of what it means and how long we are talking about if 60% or 70% of people getting infected. how long is that?

>> i entirely agree with dr. osterholm. this virus will continue to transmit among people who have not had it. once you have enough immunity in the population so let's say for example i am infected with the virus and i have been out with a lot of people who are susceptible, i can still transmit to them. 80% of the people i run to are immune to the virus, i may go outside and not transmit it to anyone. that's what we need to do. we need to get some point of that level of immunity. it is only then we'll stop population transmission. what we are seeing right now is very little population level immunity in the broad population across the united states for example maybe 5%. we are not sure of the exact

number. that means 95% of the population will be able to contract and spread the virus and we see it spreading like wildfires and nursing homes and factories and all across the country as a result. >> among every governor now is figuring out when to reopen and where to keep restrictions or loosen restrictions. i want you to listen to the governor of california, he extended the stay-at-home order. listen to how he considers it a challenge ahead. >> maybe you feel asymptomatic and feeling fabulous and tested without knowing a few days later after your negative test you may contract the disease and spread back into the community. >> it is not just availability of testing today but you will have to have it how regularly or how often? what is the cycle of testing

will be as you put more and more people back into the workplace and the community? >> viral testing is a difficult type of testing to look at. you can monitor somebody. if you test them once, you don't know if they have been infected yesterday or today is negative or they may be positive tomor w tomorrow. so really with viral testing with nasal swabs require repeat testing over and other. if we are going to use viral testing for surveillance effort, it should be coupled to these antibody tests we have heard about which gives somebody an understanding if they have already been exposed or maybe a month or maybe a year ago obviously with this virus is not a year ago yet. but to cold bien tmbine the two

modalities can be were important. if you go to a nursing home and you measure the 10% of the residents who are positive, you have no idea maybe two or three weeks ago 50% could have been positive and you are measuring them on the down spring of the epidemic or two weeks from now 30% will be positive. having the antibody testing in conjunction with the viral testing will be crucially important to be able to monitor the facts and control these outbre outbreaks. >> dr. michael mina. >> thank you. up next, joe biden denied a sexual allegation from an aid saying it "never, never happened." les, and air fry cris. it's a great escape.

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democratic nominee addressed this. biden says "it never happened." m.j. lee is covering the story for us. >> you know the past few months have been so unusual for the 2020 campaign given the coronavirus and now his team having to answer a whole slew of questions about an allegation back in the 1990s that he insists did not take place. >> no, it is not true. i am saying unequivocally. it never, never happened and it did not. >> reporter: joe biden personally addressing a sexually assault allegation dating back to 1993. this never ever happened. i don't know what is motivating her. i don't know -- i don't know what behind is even. it is irrelevant and never happened. period. i am not going to start

questioning her motive or get into that. i am not going to go after terra reid for saying these things. it is simple. what are the facts? do any of the things she says do they add up? >> reporter: the nominee for president defiant and unequivocal denying that he sexually assaulted tara reed in the 1990. she was ordered to take a duffel bag to her boss. reed also among multiple women said last year she experienced physical interaction with biden that made her feel uncomfortable. none of those women including reid at the time accused biden of assault.

biden saying such a complaint does not exist. >> i am confident of nothing. no one brought it into my attention. no one i am aware of in my campaign or should my senate office at the time is aware of any rewequests or any such complaint. >> reporter: three people close to reid telling cnn they did hear about the allege sexually assault. reade's friend telling cnn reade

confided in her. >> i am wondering what staffer would do if they go to the press in washington. my daughter just left there and could not get through with her problems a all. the only thing she could have done is go to the press and she chose not to do it. >> reporter: the anonymous caller not naming biden or describing in any details what problems her daughter confronted. reade telling cnn the voice on the show belongs to her mother and she told her about the alleged assault of the night that it happened. cnn interviewed half a dozen of former biden aids who worked in the early 1990s. all of them said they were not aware of any sexual harassments or assault allegations. biden says reade's story should

be fully examined. >> from the beginning, i said believing a woman means take the claim seriously, vet it and look into it. that's true in this case as well. women have to right to be heard and investigate claims they make. i always uphold that principle. in the end the truth is what matters. in this case, the truth is the claims are false. >> reporter: the allegations come as biden prepares to take on president trump during the election. more than a dozen women having allegations with trump, trump denied all those allegations. >> i have been falsely charged numerous times and there was such a thing. >> reporter: now there are a lot of questions now about whether there may be any kind

documentations about reade's complaints because she said she filed something with the personnel office on capitol hill about the sexual harassment as well and biden is saying today that he believes those personnel papers are in the national archive and that he would call on it to do a research and release anything that may be related todd a complain. john. >> m.j. lee. thank you for that report. please stay with us. dana bash is joining us and maggie from "the new york times." this is a difficult day for the former president, an important day he decided to put a lot of pressure quietly among democrats for him to address this finally but we'll hear from tara reade this weekend. that's an important chapter. >> i think it is. hearing tara reade speak for

herself and seeing her on camera will be important for people to assess this claim. biden finally addressed this story where a lot of democrats wanted him to do. democrats are left in a difficult position having to defend this when he was not defending it himself. we'll see what happens after she speaks. there has been some contradictions in her claims but with that said i think the most striking thing, one o f tf the striking things he said this morning is women have been right to heard. that's a principle of the me too movement which a movement that that democrats support. it shows if it holds through here as well as allegations against the republicans. >> an excellent point that maggie makes.

the washington figures there especially as we go back to the kavanaugh's drama. the speakers were all adamant. kavanaugh's accusers should be heard. there is a lot of anxiety among democrats about this. what's the mood the vice president carry forward into that interview? >> there is a sigh of relief because he did it and he was so emphatic saying nothing happened. the problem is when you look at the end of the interview and he was pressed on unanswered questions. what about the university of delaware. his campaign focus was if there is something filed, we want the national archives to look into it and see if anything is there. what about the university of delaware where all of his senate

papers are. he didn't have an answer for why they can't do the same kind of search at the university of delaware. he was relying on the angels understandable rule and without a controversy that people don't have any of their papers public until after they're gone from public life but this is an exception and when you are trying to put forward a brand new strategy of transparency to not have an answer to that question whether it is a red pairing or not. it could be, we talk aboare tal about politics here and we know how it works. republicans seizing on that and taking it to democratic members of congress, democratic candidates running for congress and senators as well. it already is trickling down to that unanswered question to

other candidates on the ballot. so that's why it is not over yet. >> i want to listen to the part where he was asked several times. i want to listen to how the former vice president describes he's making a distinction. his senate paper were given to the university of delaware and the day-to-day manage record, he believes those are in the national archives. on the question about what about the note at the university of delaware, he said this. >> a record like this can only be at one place. it would not be at the university deldelaware. the national archives would have anything to do with personnel records. there are no personnel records in the bidens -- >> let's assume there is no personal records. they're not at the university of delaware. that does include personal

correspondence and i get it, past and public officials trying to keep it from the public eye saying his private trip with obama. could he not ask reputable including republicans to go to the university to work on what they inventory the document and did a name search just to make sure there is nothing in any of that correspondence that has the name tara reade. >> when joe biden was pressed on that interview, he did not have a clear ponrespond. i am going to assume that's manager the campaign is thinking through right now because so many of his critics and people who are calling for transparency are going to fixate on this issue. i have to say it is important to point out if we are going to talk about this potential

documentation or any paper wor and the issue of transparency, i am certain that any of biden's allies or supporters are going to be talking about the fact that there are somebody in the white house who had not held himself up to the standards of the extremely transparent everyoeven on something as obvious as tax returns, right? i think this is where we get into an ugly back and forth on the issues of transparency and which party is more transparent when the bumlk of the focus should be on reporting on what that reporter is doing on what happened and is there corroboration on either side. >> an important point. i appreciate your insights on this. we'll continue reporting. up next, the mayor of los angeles explains how he's able to offer free coronavirus testing.

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the next few days at least 30 states will be opened. restrictions are easing. in california the governor is

keeping the stay-at-home order in place but has laid out plans to reopening the state while closing beaches. let's bring mayor garcetti, it is good to see you. in your city right now if you put up the number and look at california in l.a. county, l.a. county has more of half of california's death toll. a couple of weeks ago as the governor says starting to phase. do you think you will have to say my part or my city is not ready or do you think you can be insync with other states? >> we have to realize these opening days are not about throwing the doors wide open. they're about careful steps forward. i think when people think

suddenly for us may 15th that they come. i can say this is a former navy guy, it is like a ship coming into port, it is not time to party, it is time to carefully get out the ship and assess where we are and take some steps forward and wait two or three weeks with baby steps and see the impact. >> one of the things you have said in your city is anybody wants to test can get a test. there was some confusion created because the larger l.a. county listen here, health services director says we are not ready for that. >> as a county we are not currently providing testing for low risk asymptomatic individuals. we also need to ensure that we have a sufficient number of tests available to be able respond to outbreak in other situations. >> is it different between los angeles city and counties in terms of testing available and to who?

>> she meant the county of sites are not implementing testing. the city of los angeles are offering those to anybody in the area. we know the 10 million residents in l.a. county needs that. it is critical for us to open nup in the future. we have to find spreader and people without symptoms can spread this. we need critical piece of knowledge in order to open up in the future. >> your urging concern is on winning today or not losing today anyway. as you start thinking along return, the governor of new york just announced no more schools in state of new york to the academic year. i know you have said possibly school is reopening in july. i am just trying to think, i grew up in the boston public

scho school, what you would do in the city like l.a. where you don't have enough physical infrastructures and not enough teachers and as you are trying to rethink that challenge, what is going to require of you and your schools system to get kids back in the classroom in a way that's safe. will you have the space and resources for teachers to pull it off? >> we have incredible teachers who are doing heroic work. but, it is most likely that we'll be opening up in the fall if we open up. it is absolutely we are watching in denmark and looking at whether kids get in or not all kids everyday of the week. we have to remember those children who are preexisting condition because they'll have to stay-at-home probably during the school year for longer until we have a vaccine. i absolutely think this is not just important for our kids but also we can't picture parents

going back to the work force if their children are not at school. our democratic is loistrict is closely and looking at spacing and putting in different shifts. we'll have to sit down and talk to our teachers about that and see what they can do and what they can bring to the table and we are all committed. and hopefully back in school in the fall. >> let me come back to a near term challenge. as you make this more testing available, you are going to find out a lot more about the rate of infection and how much is out there and how blind have we been if you will? what is your best guess in terms of contact tracing army that you have to build in the city of los angeles? >> i call nationally on a contact tracing core. we call it cares core. senator kuehn is building on the model. when we rose to the occasion and the great depression and getting people back to work and critical infrastructure and think about

during the cold war when we looked at the peace corp or when the teachers corp. it is time for myself and republican mayors and former a fda cdc craft together getting 30 300,000 people we need. it is not about testing, we have to get testing of anybody that's simil symptomatic and trace anyone who they talked to in the next 24 hours. in order to have that we can really arrest the growth rate of covid-19, it will help americans get back to work. >> mayor garcetti, appreciate your time. wish you the best of luck in the challenging days and weeks and months and months ahead. >> thank you, john, thank you for your great coverage.

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michigan opening debate is getting intense. protesters that you see here, some of them are carrying guns as they demanded to be led into the chamber yesterday. these are people who are angry and they want their lives back

again. >> i am going to listen to health experts and make sure we have the protocol to keep people safe when it is safe to reeng e reengage. >> cnn's jeff zeleny has been keeping an eye on this. >> governor whitmer is standing her ground. i am interested the president weighed in this morning talking to her saying she should negotiate. i never heard president trump speak like that about protesters at his rallies or protesters at his event or members of congress that he's not negotiating. the reality is those protesters were not there to work with governothe governor.

they're trying to rescind will not allow her to extend her stay-at-home order. she did that anyway under a different provision under michigan's law. a power clash we are seeing in divided states. we are seeing it in some different states as well. i was in ohio yesterday and a republican leading the way and choose to extend his stay-at-home order. in michigan it is still the number three state in terms of numbers of deaths. that's what governor whitmer is basing her decisions on science and health. it is not politics. she's certainly staying her ground and likely the majority of people as well. john. >> traough decisions for all

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as we watch states begin to reopen, sports world begin to modestly reopen. by and large the sports world is

very much shutdown. what have we missed? 259 nba games as of last night and 470 baseball games and 189 national hockey games all shutdown because of the coronavirus. there were a lot of events postponed in march. 33% of sports events. this suggests the 47% for the rest will be postponed 53% will come back. that's optimistic perhaps but it counts on how things will come back. first what was scheduled? if you look at what events was scheduled, that's the thing and now what's going to happen. you see they disappear and april and may and july. you have more events than scheduled because leagues are trying to make up games and we'll see if that'll play out. the impact on players not total.

lebron james would make 400 grand a game, 232,000 for mike tro trout. this is has a major economic impact. it is not just for our sports relief here. a drop this year of at least $61.6 billion. even that may be optimistic depending on when the come back happens. this is not just about being high paid athletes. there are 159,000 schools. at least 10,000 food prep at the stadiums and all that. the economic impact goes well beyond high paid professional players. there were some talks in recent days time to pull some plugs on the nba season.

>> they're working with city officials and state officials and they're hoping the key issues with that is going to be safe. if it can be, we'll go on. if not we'll be patiently waiting. >> coy wire is with us. we are starting to see some updates with the nba and little bit of progress and a lot of waiting list, right? >> yes, lebron james, is speaking out any of those reports out there that some executives want to cancel the nba season entirely. king james tweeted this, that's not true. nobody i know says anything like that. i am ready and my team is ready. nobody should be cancelling anything. one of the celtics also said us

that he agrees with king james. >> i think we had some soun sound -- we didn't have the sound for you, coy. i am sorry. >> nascar says they are prepared to come back, how big and how soon. >> official announcement yesterday, drivers will be back racing may 17th in south carolina, no fans but nascar will plan to hold seven races over the course of 11 days. that includes the markee coca-cola 600 memorial day weekend in charlotte. sports fans of a little bit of a perspective note to get the summer started. >> it would be nice to have some positive news soon but as all commissioners say, safety is first. coy wire, good to see you. up next for us, more airlines telling passengers, if you want

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