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p.m. eastern. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. . and thank you very much, wolf. "outfront" next, the fda authorize iing a drug to treat coronavirus as the cdc says the next few weeks are crucial. two of the world's top experts with a big warning and they are "outfront." plus, choosing between his economic survival and health, i'm going to speak to a tech man fighting p cancer who says he'd rather keep his struggling restaurant closed than getting sick and why is the white house blocking dr. fauci from testifying to congress. let's go "outfront." and good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" on this friday. the cdc telling americans we are at a crucial point in the pandemic. in the next few months are critical in containing the outbreak. this as more states are reopening their economies. 32 states as of tonight including texas, which just add its deadliest day for
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coronavirus deaths. almost all of these states opening up days, week, some even more than a month faster than what a key model cited by the white house says they should do. it comes though as president trump says he is optimistic that the country is on the right track. >> people were thinking in terms of 1.5 million lives lost to 2.2. then hopefully we're going to come in below that 100,000 lives lost, which is a horrible number never the less. >> of course the president's own forecast had been for 66,000 deaths even just a few days ago. they have now increased that estimate. the optimism he's sharing even as top epidemiologists warning the virus can spread up to two more years infecting up to two-thirds of the entire world
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population. we'll speak to two of those experts. but first, erica hill. the cdc is offering new insight as to how the virus can spread as they talk about this crucial time period we're in right now. what are you learning? >> that's right. the timing of this is not to be ignored in many ways. the report put out today that looked at how this virus spread across the country. it's some things a number of people suspecteded. travel, large gatherings. but it comes on a day when dr. fauci is reminding so many states if they leave this guidance in his words, he hopes they're ready if another surge comes their way. mardi gras. a medical conference in boston and a large funeral in albany, georgia. all three february events likely helped fuel the spread of coronavirus in the u.s. those new findings from the cdc con p firming what many have suspected. researchers also singling out
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the role of international travel and certain workplaces like meat packing plants, nursing homes and dense urban areas like new york city. a lack of testing also contributed to the spread. the findings come as states move to reopen by the eastbouthough have a 14-day decline in the cases. >> we still have a virus it doesn't care that it's may 1st and you still have to take extreme precautions for your safety and for the state of taf those you love. >> diners in texas replame claiming a morning routine. it's not just restaurants and retail coming back online today. beaches, mall, even movie theaters, though at reduced capacity. >> we really had to think about it and decide are we ready? do we want to do this? >> ohio, louisiana and michigan among the states extending stay at home orders as california's governor says his state is now
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days, not weeks, away from being able to reopen some shops and restaurants without restrictions. >> we're getting very close to making really meaningful augmentations to the stay at home order. >> that announcement coming a as protestors gathered at huntington beach calling for an end to the order. at least two cities voting to file an injunction citing the county's low rate. today, orange county announced its highest single day increase in cases. in alabama, beachgoers were ready thursday night as restrictions were lifted there. shoppers in stores adapting in oxford, mississippi. >> we lower the records down. >> fresh concerns about the safety of meat processing plants and the nation's food supply. shoppers and military commissaries now limited to purchasing two meat items per visit in anticipation of possible shortages.
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a new report predicts the virus could be with us for at least another 18 months until 60 to 70% of the population has been infected. >> i think people need to wrap their head around the fact that this is here to stay for a protacted period of time. >> meantime, work continues on a virus with a warning. >> just say i have a vaccine throw it into people. impeachmepeople don't appreciat they're so attend to getting a vaccine quickly, there could be negative effects of enhancement of infection. >> as americans wait, they're also honoring those we've lost. in connecticut, thousands of white flags, one for each person in the state who has dieded as a result of the virus. pastor patrick collins calling the memorial a somber remind er that we are in this together. here in new york city, governor cuomo announcing that they're
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partnering with the kate spade text line to offer emotional support services for the governor called front line hello care heroes. alhe also said he's instructing insurers to waive fees for mental health services for front line workers. >> thank you very much. and i want to go now to two of the nation's leading pandemic experts. authors of this new report which predicts the pandemic could last up two more years. john berry and mark -- so thanks very much to both of you. welcome back. mark, john, you know you write that this virus will likely keep spreading for 18 months to two years and the forecast you both put in was until 60 to 70% of the population worldwide has it, which i know mark has said is sort of how he defines herd immunity warn this could include another wave in the fall and
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winter. so could that wave be bigger than what we are seeing right now? >> it could be. what we've seen so r far has been controlled and lessened significantly by the actions we've taken. if those actions are released and people stop paying attention to social distancing, you need to even if we end lockdown, you still have to continue social distancing and other public health measures. it could get considerably worse than what we've seen so far. >> pretty sobering warning. the virus has been spreading for about five months. so r far akortding to official number, less than 1% of the world's population has been infected. now obviously that number is going to be much higher than that, but it's still going to be pretty low as percent of the population. to get to 70% in two years, just does that mean a huge
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acceleration at some point in your modeling? >> well i think the of course you can't get from 5% in a few months to 70% without a lot more cases. than we've had up until now so that would mean a bigger wave. if we keep it under control with intense control measures, we might not get to 50 or 70% by that time, but we'll still have teert need for a vaccine or a population that's still susceptible. >> so mark, i guess that you're saying there's no way we can relent. i know you're not talking about a full lockdown, but you can't relent or else you're to have some of those waves bigger than what we've just had to get anywhere close to those numbers. >> right. in the report, we lay out two
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different scenarios. one is is having a big next wave then that takes much of the suh septemberable population away. at the cost of risking a lot of deaths and a lot of damage to our health care system. then more managed waves that are not quite so high, but none is less lead to continues cases and continued deaths so the better we control it, the longer we have to live with it and the best case is that we control it long enough to get a vaccine but as dr. fauci pointed out, that's not a certainty and the timing is not a certainty. >> no, but john we keep hearing about the weather. the cdc put out the sheet showing it doesn't live as long
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in humid or hot conditions although it can live hours on some of those surfaces, but that heat and humidity hurts. that study that the president keeps citing florida governor ron di san tis cited today to defend his reopening part of the state of florida. will summer slow down the virus in a dramatic, notable way? >> well if the report is is correct, the virus is going to survive less long in heat and humidity, however, given the susceptibility of the population and the trans missablety of f the virus, susceptibility will trump sb seasonality. in 1918, you had a similar situation. the second wave started in july in the middle of switzerland. it ended in january in australia. in the middle of the summer. in australia. and 40% of australians got
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infected in summer. so when you have a highly susceptible population, that is more important than the seasons and temperature. we're at more than 0i,000 confirmed deaths from coronavirus and obviously we understand u that number is is higher but those are the confirmed drets contributed to the actual virus. the major model the administration keeps updating, a couple of weeks ago, ten days ago, they said it was going to be 66,000 by august 4th. that didn't add up. they've moved it up to 72,000 by august and you heard the president trying to now say anything under 100 is a victory. the goal post keeps moving here. so first, the formal forecast of 72,000 deaths by august. does that seem reasonable to you? that would be an incredible slowdown from where we are right
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now. >> no for just that reason. i think these numbers are politics not solid science and we have to look at the trend of the epidemic and what our interventions are. if we loosen up, it will accelerate, not slow down. so i think it's just not rational to expect a slowdown when when the trend is is to loosen our restrictions. how much fear do you have about the states opening up? socially distance, maybe not opening everything. it's a hodgepodge of things but all are doing so before the government's formal recommendations. in many cases, weeks and more than a month before that. do you see anything out there that makes you deeply concerned right now about these reopenings? >> yeah, i'm very concerned. the logic just doesn't really add up.
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we now have many cases per day. the growth has slowed down but the number of cases per day is higher than it was when we started the lockdowns. it was smart to start the lockdowns. it can't be start to stop them when we have more cases per day because that's the thing we're trying to reduce. some countries like aus are tri austria have locked down and reduced the number of cases per daedramatically and they're now thinking about releasing some of the restrictions and that makes sense. one thing i'll say is that the parks are a special case. i agree with florida's governor about parks. in the sense that outdoor environments are are really different and you need to control social distancing, but i've been in favor of keeping parks open. >> all right well people certainly you've got to have some mental support for people in that regard, they need those
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parks. next, choosing between economic survival and health. texas restaurant owner's tough choice not to open today even though his governor says he can. plus the fda given the green light to use remdesivir for emergency use so we're going to take youness one of the nation's leading trials op this drug to see what's happening then why is the white house blocking dr. fauci from testifying before congress? incomplete job from an. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase sensimist. nothing stronger. nothing gentler. nothing lasts longer. flonase sensimist. 24 hour non-drowsy allergy relief it means being there for each other. that's why state farm is announcing the good neighbor relief program we know our customers are driving less, which means fewer accidents. so state farm is returning $2 billion dollars to auto policyholders for the period ending may 31st. and we'll continue making real time decisions
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new tonight, choosing between opening up and staying healthy. texas restaurants even as the state reported it highest one-day death toll yesterday. one restaurant owner who is battle lg limb foe masseis he can't open up or stay shut. and mike, look, i really appreciate your time. i mean you know, you're battling cancer yourself. your grandmother died from coronavirus. what you're dealing with is overwhelming and at the same time, you're dealing with a business you can't keep shut for much longer. how difficult was this decision you just had to make to keep your dining room closed? >> it wasn't really hard when you put in all the factors especially with what i just went through with losing my grander mother.
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she taught us about love, light and family. this restaurant that i built here, we made it a community restaurant you know and everybody that i like a lot of the guests that i see, they're almost like family. i see lot of them. i know their kids names. araya, nick and aidan perez. they're almost like family to me. i would feel bad if something happened to them at the same time, i have a financial responsibility to run this business so at the end of the day, the money wasn't worth lieuing lives over. the people that supported me this restaurant, it wasn't worth the danger. i know your restaurant seats about 62 people at a time. we can see how close people normally sit to each other. always crowdeded. right now, when you reopen, how
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many could you seat and is it something that you could even survive with final ly? >> we could probably seat about 14 people. at a time. actually no, we can't survive off of that. simple math. you get 25% of your restaurant business but you have to do 100% of the rent. it's not feasible. we have to bring in the equipment. and the products to make sure the safety of the geisses. their hand sanitizer. disinfectant chemicals. stuff that we can't get ahold of right now. >> i know you've been receiving treatment for your lymphoma, just the incredible process of
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that is hard to understood state here, but is have you stopped treatment now i understand because you don't want to run the risk of being infected? to get those treatment, you have to go into the hospital so how did you make that decision and how long can you avoid treatment? i know that has to have a will the of fear with that as well. >> it was a tough decision but at tend of the day, it's what was best for my survival rate. easery go to these places where i could get infected or stay home where i know i'm safe. i know if the exact timeline is about treatment. it's one of the things that i hope and pray that this one beats out the other and that i can stand not getting treatment and this settles down and i can move forward on with that. >> i'm rooting for you. you're going to be in our thoughts and i thank you very much for your time. mike is still awaiting hearing
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from the federal government on his small business loan. he was going to be opening restaurants to houston, denver and seattle but no that's put on hold because of this. sanjay, you know, this is is, this is a just a dramatic and incredible story here. it's the choice hees given. he's had to stop his cancer treatments to reopen a business you need to open while you're grieving your grandmother who died of coronavirus. it's incredekred credible to im yet he feels calm and confident in the decision he made it was not the right decision to reopen. >> now and i think in material of the reopening, i think there's lots of data to show that these states haven't met these criteria to reopen. i don't know people understand the impact it has on certain
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families. i'm sure michael has talk ed about this with his doctors. if you drop, get an infection while you're also dealing with one of these cancers, your likelihood of survival does go down. having said that, his type of cancer maybe a very treatable cancer. again, i'm sure it's something to talk b about with his doctors, but one of the things we're seeing a lot in the midst of pandemic is that people forgo treatments that are necessary and that's not always the right decision. again, i'm not questioning his decision. just want to make sure the message get iting out there is that if there are things that you need to get treated that even in the midst of the pandemic, there's certain precautions you need to take. you may need to be put into isolation at the hospital, but there are ways to continue to get treatment even in the midst of a pandemic and i would hate to think people would think well, i'm going to skip chemo
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because of this. big hospitals have ways to keep you save and give you that treatment. >> and cancer because of how it moves, people don't don't want to, you don't want them to forlow geaux these treatments. there was a study that found patients with both cancer and coronavirus have a nearly threefold increase than coronavirus patients without cancer, so but as you point out, it does seem to matter which type of cancer you are battling, right? that's right. it was primarily plood or lung cancers. different types of those. then people with met static cancer, cancer that had spread. where the increased mortality rate was most pronounced. but it's a tight rope because when you get the treatment that can se press your immune system
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so he may need to be in the hospital longer in ice laigs if he's getting treatment because if he contracts the virus when he leaves, that obviously increases his chances of not surviving. it's a challenging really situation for him. but again, i do wonder if someone like mike might be able to find a safe way to get treatment than stay in ice lason at the same time. >> thank you very much. >> you got it! next, the fda authorizing emergency use of remdesivir to treat coronavirus. we're going to take you nd one of the nation's leading trials on this drug and tell you what the dock r tors are seeing. plus, north korean state media airing what they say is a new picture of kim jong-un who has not been seen in 21 days so has he been spot alive and well? working to care for all of us. at novartis, we promise to do our part. as always, we're doing everything we can to help keep cosentyx accessible and affordable.
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patients recover. >> reporter: more quickly. and now, new study is showing such positive rults they're no longer use iing a placebo. sara sidner is "outfront." >> now everybody that was potentially at risk. >> dr. reno is an infectious disease specialist in the front lines. from the first confirmed covid-19 death in the u.s., they're now at the forefront of finding a treatment. they're taking part in a clinical trial of remdesivir. >> this is an intravenous medication. given for ten days. >> after it was administered to the sickest patients, he said it showed real promise and that was just phase one of the trial. when you go into a second phase of the trial, what does that mean? >> the skd phase is going to use u this as the backbone is is every patient will receive remdesivir because the first trial showed benefit. shortened the course of illness.
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b and a decrease in mortality. in phase two, some will get a companion drug used to treat rheumatoid arthritis but every covid-19 patient in the trial will now be treated with rem rell. why is that a big deal? >> it's the first scientifically proven drug in treatment. >> trials are happening across 68 sites. more than 1,000 people have taken part. the result patients recovered 31% more quickly with remdesivir. that translates to four fewer days of suffering in the hospital. >> although at 31% improvement doesn't seem like a knockout 100%, it's a very important proof of concept because what it has proven is that a drug can block this virus. >> the remdesivir was originally
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created as a potential drug to treat ebola. dr.ry ta was on the front lines of that battle. traveling to africa. he hopes the drug works this time around. before this was done, the president alongside the ceo of gilead who makes the drug, announced the emergency use athrization for remdesivir. >> we'll be working with the dwo government to determine how best to distribute that in the united states. >> the fda acting quickly for now the drug is is being used only in hospitals on the sickest covid-19 patients. it is not a cure. some of the patients treated with the drug still died but others felt better fast er. so this could be one u major tool in the fikt against coronavirus. >> correct. >> wow. >> but it has to be proven. we have to do the careful science. >> the last thing that doctors and scientists want to do is give people false hope but they
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really do believe there is real hope with treating the most severely ill patients who have covid-19. they say as these trials on and as they test it further, there's a b possibility remdesivir could help a much wider group of people who are infected not potentially just the severely ill but that has to be parsed out. >> thank you and i want to go straight now to cnn medical analyst, jonathhn who advised t white house medical team under president bush. there are still questions of what we need to learn about this drug. she laid out the positive result, but what more do we need to learn? >> the hint in some recent trials that patients were
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treated earlier, when should this be given. the authorization that was f released this afternoon authorizes this to be used only in hospitalized parents with relatively low oxygen levels who need supplemental oxygen, mechanical ventilation or ecmo, essentially a heart lung machine. so these are really sick patients so we need to learn how to use this drug maybe even earlier. the company is interested in y trying devise new methods to administer the drug because it's only given as an intravenous administration so it would be difficult to get this on a widespread basis as an outpatient. >> i know that some had suggested is it possible you could give it in an inhaled verlsion so maybe you could prescribe it to someone to have it earl earlier and before they're sick enough to be in the
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hospital or intubated, right? >> right, inhaled or subcutaneous like people take insulin. we need to learn a lot more about this drug. but as we heard in sara sidner's piece, this now becomes the new standard of care so this is a baseline therapy that all hospitalized patients with covid-19 are going to receive and all the new strat jis will be compared or layers on top. >> i talked to a doctor last night in detroit. he had gotten coronavirus, was very sick, in the hospital, intubated. he got five different treatments. remdesivir was one. plasma, steroids. a couple of others. eight days on a ventilator. he did go home but he has no idea he says which if any of those treatments saved him. it does seem impossible to know
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at this point, but i guess do you think that they really could be layering all these things on top of each other? >> this is why we need to do carefully controlled clinical trials. when i see a patient who comes to my office who has developed what we think is a drug rash and they're on serl different drugs and if you stop them all at the same point, you never know which caused the rash. the same way with benefit. the person you spoke to yesterday, he survived, which is fab b louse, but we don't know which combination of drugs saved him. this is why we need to do this in a carefully controlled way so when we see benefit, we know what caused the bet. >> right. they think something really did save him. they called him to have his family say good-bye to him on face time. but he is home and fully better. thanks so much. >> my pleasure. next, a senior admin straight official believes the coronavirus originated in a
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. a senior official telling cnn that quote, a r majority of sbel jents agencies believe the coronavirus originated in a chinese lab likely by mistake. kaitlyn, there's been talk about this, but obviously the president saying it you know that this is what happened definitively is a pretty explosive thing. so what more do you know about this and how definitive it is? >> yeah, we've seen the white house today including the press secretary say he's taking the
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intelligence community listening to what they're saying and made clear in a statement yesterday that has the that had the backing of the entire intelligence community that they're still investigating where this came from. whether it was through the contact of infected animals or the result of a lab accident in wuhan, china, which is a theory that's been pushed out there. you have seen several people say they don't believe that's what it was including dr. fauci, who cited reports and studies that said it was consistent with what would happen from a jump from an animal to a human. so thr still a will the of questions about this. there is something notable coming up on tuesday which is when the president's next intelligence chief who was nominated is going to be understood going a senate confirmation where he's likely going b to be asked about a situation like this, where the dni has put a statement and of course there are questions about what the intelligence actually shows. >> so we're also learning the
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white house is blocking dr. fauci from testifying before the house next week. why? >> an appripriations subcommittee wanted to hear from him. they'll be interviewing official frs the obama administration and wanted to talk to dr. fauci about the response on coronavirus which has come under intense scrutiny. the white house did confirm dr. fauci will not be showing up. they basically said he's butsy with the response and they pointed to the fact she's expected to attend another senate hearing later on but you've got the notice fact that dr. fauci has been incredibly candid when he's spoken about the response. otime he said he thought testin has been a big failure in the united states which we've all realized with the roll out and what not. there are going to be a will the of people who want to hear from
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him in the future and inn i think the white house is pretty aware of that. >> thank you so much. then also at that time talk iin about the flu how that this was at least ten timed deadlier than the flu was reported to be. i want to bring in david gregory. i want to start first with the lab there that kaitlyn was referencing. look, we have all heard about this. it's an explosive theory. we've seen that lab. david culver went and showed how it's right in wuhan. isn't even like it's right outside. it's right there. the president of the united states to come out and say this, this is giant implications for what could be u you know, the most important relationship the united states has. right. if this is true, do they now at this point owe us the proof? >> i think they to and it's such a delicate dance for the president right now, who wants to pursue a trade relationship with china that's important for the u.s. economy. but we also understands it's
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good felpolitics on the left an right to attack china and of coursen china should be held to account for mistakes made in response to this virus, but it's a touch point, a nerve politically to hit china on this. i think you have to have proof when you move forward especially when you have a scientific community that says there's a likely explanation for how the e meshrnled and spread around the globe. >> this is a remarkable tone for the president. these theorys about the has been and whether something inadd ver tantly came out of it by mistake. not a bio weapon. had been around. but for months, the president didn't dally in that he said things like this. >> now we're friends with you. maybe we've never had a better relationship and now we're working with them very closely on the coronavirus. >> are you concerned that china
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is is covering up? >> no, that is working very hard. >> we've been working very much with china. i've spoken with president xi. they went through hell. and their numbers are starting to look very good. >> many mention of f a lab, just friends defending them on transparency, which was bogus. this is a big change. >> then backed that off after talking to xi. again, he's got this balance as president to pursue a trade relationship, which is important for the economy then the politics of hitting china and knowing that that has a lot he's going to have to figure that out. he has to rely on the on the intelligence community then to be is circumspect which is not his strength base ed on what ha
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development development. china represents a lot of things. and understanding that relationship ver difficult and nuanced for any president. >> thank you. >> sure. and next, breaking news. north korea just releasing what they claim is a photo of kim jong-un now. we have that picture and it's coming as questions grow about his health, his well being. is it him now? is is he really alive? and a much needed joyful announcement. anderson announcing the birth of his son. so, anderson, you're a few days in. how is is father hood going? we'll find out. swer your questi. like helping you understand what the recently passed economic package can mean for you. we're more than a financial company. we're a "together we can get through anything" company. now, more than ever.
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alive. state media released this image. they say it's him attending opening of fertilizer factory today. his sister can be seen in the background of the image. want to make it clear we can't independently confirm the photo or date it was shot. here's what president trump said. >> i'd rather not comment on it yet, kim jong un, we'll have something to say about it at the appropriate time. >> will ripley is out front, been to north korea 19 times. we've been hearing kim was seriously, gravely ill, the reporting. he had not been seen in public in three weeks, missed crucial, huge annual celebration day, some said he wasn't alive, now this photo comes out. sort of grainy in this report. what do you think when you look at this? does it prove anything? >> i'm not an expert, i'd rather
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have somebody with trained eye looking at pictures. i would find video more convincing. there's another one with him conveniently sitting below a sign that says may 1st prominently. he could very well be alive, could have attended the ribbon cutting or could be quite ill and sick and recovering out of the public eye for three weeks. because north korea is so secretive, particularly around the health of their leader, it's guarded as the highest top secret you can imagine in a country already so secretive, we simply have no way of knowing the facts because north korea is not giving them to us. that's part of the reason you have reports running spectrum from hiding out in luxury compound from coronavirus to he was at death's door. a couple of photos don't necessarily prove or disprove what was going on inside the
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country. >> and he's known for -- just look at him, got obesity issue, known for having health issues, possible other issues as well could lead him to become very sick. at this point we just don't know. why do you think they released this now, did pressure reach a point they had to put it out with that prominent may 1st? >> bulletins they've been putting out haven't country it in terms of proof of life. this is more detailed attempt to show he's alive. but it's 5'7", 300 pounds, smokes a couple of packs a day, has history of heart problems in his family. not a picture of good health. whether he had a health care recently or not, does raise the question whether he'll have health scares in weeks ahead. >> fact his sister is in the picture? does that say anything.
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talking about it. she's in the picture. seems not accidental. >> his younger sister is always near his side, setting her up for a big position moving forward. >> thank you very much. next, new life, new love, words of my friend anderson as he announced birthday of that little baby boy. going to talk to his about his son and fatherhood. ...with rinvoq. rinvoq a once-daily pill... ...can dramatically improve symptoms... rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. and for some-rinvoq can even significantly reduce ra fatigue. that's rinvoq relief. with ra, your overactive immune system... ...attacks your joints. rinvoq regulates it to help stop the attack. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious infections and blood clots, sometimes fatal, have occurred...
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>> it's good. yeah. it's incredible. i spent hours today just staring at him. and limb sleeping on my chest was amazing. and just he's pretty incredible. incredibly exciting. >> gosh, got to be amazing. and he makes little noises. >> squeaky noises, i'm so in love with them. all while he sleeps. i don't know if dreaming or what but definitely squeaking a lot. lovely. trying to record them so i always have them. >> oh, gosh. i'll say, i showed him to my two oldest kids last night. they were grabbing the phone and kissing him. i think because they love you so love him too. >> sweet. >> they're fans, look forward to meeting him. >> i appreciate all your support, erin. you have a great weekend. thanks
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