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welcome to "360." states beginning to partially reopen, at least 32 by end of the week, as fda approves emergency use of the first treatment, remdesivir. not a cure but washington doctor told cnn he'll be giving it to every infected patient however. more on that in a moment. in addition to hope, there is also some caution tonight. the new report from the university of minnesota says it will continue to spread at least two more years. we'll talk to the group that published the report about the road ahead. cdc says in new report that summer will be critical months and we'll need mass testing and
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medical facilities if this country is to withstand a possible second wave in the fall. we'll talk to los angeles mayor eric garcetti about the push to reopen in california, even by his own governor gavin newsom, said partial reopening would be no longer weeks but days. start with erica hill in the epicenter in new york. what is the latest? >> reporter: in new york we're learning that nypd will have more than 1,000 officers out this weekend, it's supposed to be beautiful this weekend, in the 70s, to enforce social distancing and educate the public. students in new york state will not return this academic year, k-12 and colleges as well. as for the fall, he says districts may need to reimagine school, as we watch so many other states reopen. mardi gras, a medical conference in boston, large funeral in georgia, all three february events likely helped fuel the spread of coronavirus in the u.s. new findings from cdc confirm what many have suspected.
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researchers also single out the role of international travel, and certain workplaces, like meat packing plants, nursing homes, and dense urban areas like new york city. lack of testing also contributed. news comes as 32 states move to reopen by the weekend, though none appear to have met white house guidelines for a 14-day decline in cases. >> we still have a virus in this community, it does not care if it's may 1st, you have to take extreme precautions for your safety and those you love. >> reporter: diners in texas reclaiming a morning routine. >> i was ready. believe me. >> restaurants and retail coming back online today, beaches, malls, even movie theaters, though at reduced capacity. >> we really had to think, are we ready? >> reporter: ohio, louisiana, and michigan, among the states extending stay at home's orders
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and california's governor says his state is nowadays, not weeks, away from being able to reopen, some shops and restaurants with restrictions. >> i just want folks to know, we are getting very close to making really meaningful augmentations to the stay-at-home order. >> reporter: that announcement came as protesters gathered in huntington beach calling for end to governor's order closing beaches in orange county. in alabama beach goers were ready as restrictions were lift lifted there, shoppers and stores, adapting in oxford, mississippi. >> lower the records down so they don't have to come close or touch us. >> reporter: fresh concerns about safety of meat processing plants and food supply. shoppers in military commissaries limited in two meat items per visit in anticipation of possible shortages. new report says virus could be with us 18 months until 70% of the population has been infected.
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>> i think people need to wrap their head around the fact that this here to stay for an extended period of time. >> reporter: work continues on a virus. a warning. >> just saying i have a vaccine and throw it to people, what people don't appreciate, could be negative effects of enhancement of infection. >> reporter: as americans wait, they're also honoring those we've lost. in connecticut, thousands of white flags, one for each person in the state who has died as a result of the virus. pat tore patrick collins says the memorial is a somber reminder that we are in this together. as we all know, so important to remember all the lives lost. like the couple whose daughter you spoke to, also important to focus on the hope. you and your son wyatt have given people across the country and world a lot of hope. i'm thrilled for both of you.
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add my voice to the congratulations. he's a very lucky boy. >> erica, i appreciate that from you. you've got a beautiful family you've createed so i'll be coming to you for advice, no doubt. thank you. joining us, dr. sanjay gupta, dr. osterholm, paper that predicted the virus to spread for 18 months to two years. michael, your report predicting more people need to get infected and become immune before the pandemic can end. how does that square with social distancing measures, the idea to keep people from getting infected or delay them getting infected so health care workers -- the health care system can catch up. >> thank you anderson, and i too offer congratulations to you and wyatt, as grandfather who hasn't seen my grandkids since march 10th because of distancing, i appreciate what you have very
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much. >> thanks. >> important message is this virus is going to try to find more people to infect until it does that. all the measures slow it down, no one believes it will stop it. look at asian countries, supposedly had in place comprehensive programs, they're still having challenges and problems. our report was just saying until 60% to 70% of the u.s. population has been infected and hopefully has immunity or we have a vaccine that accomplishes that same 60% to 70%, we're going to be fighting this virus. >> sanjay, a lot of people comparing what's happening in sweden where they haven't had restrictive measures, and i guess the idea was building up herd immunity, 60%, 70% of the population trying to get it over with, i guess.
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how -- is what we're doing here essentially going to end up with the same end result of sweden, but just take longer, which helps our health care system, and therefore, hopefully reduces total possible deaths? >> yeah, i think part of this was trying to -- when we say flatten the curve -- to basically say we don't want to overwhelm the health care systems. places with really high fatality rate, and shy point out sweden's fatality rate, smaller country, obviously, but its fatality rate is higher than ours maybe not surprising considering they're not doing these things. part of the flattening of the curve was not overwhelm the hospital systems so people die because they can't get care. part of this is a little bit of a race as dr. osterholm is talking about, we'd do well to listen to him, he's been prophetic on all of this. if we can get a good therapeutic, seeing glimmers of
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hope with remdesivir, or get a vaccine and sort of out pace this, maybe we can reduce some of these deaths. but i think all along, even with the flattening of the curve, it is sort of a double-edged thing, because you're lengthening the course of this when you flatten the curve, but you still may have a lot of people ultimately who still get infected, just over a longer period of time. >> your report is so important, talks about three likely scenarios for virus going forward, lasting another 18 months, two years. can you explain what they are, why so long? >> first of all, we all want to believe that we can understand what this thing is going to do, but we are really at the edge of our experience, and what we know about an influenza pandemic, for example. if there were influenza, we would say the big peak that we talked about is going to happen, it is going to happen sometime in the fall. this is coronavirus, one scenario that scares all of us,
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where sanjay just said, we'll exhaust the health care system and bring it almost to its knees. other two scenarios we considered is what if it just has what i call a whole lot of foothills to it, ups and downs in one city, one state, one county, one country, then quiets down like we've seen here in just the past month. or the third one is, what if it just goes in slow burn, just continue, every month, we see these cases occur, and they just keep accumulating. but what we're talking about, going to get to 60% or 70% one way or another, vaccine or over time, we'll get there, whether it is in six months, 12 months, 18 months, or 24 months. i think that's what we have to keep reminding people, that's why we're in for the long haul. >> if we're going to get to that place anyway, why not do what sweden did, which i think, i
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mean i think i know the answer, which is the number of people who would die because the health system would be overwhelmed would be untenable. >> we have to be very careful. the sweden model has become a bit more than it really. is they're really right now at maybe only 30% of their population has been infected and hopefully has immunity to it. they have a long ways to go too, they're not there. in our case we're hoping we can postpone enough cases without crippling society to have the vaccine catch up to the virus, meaning we get vaccine in time to block the virus from completing the 60% to 70% picture. and let me remind you, that just stops the massive transmission. will still be transmission. our hope is fewer cases before the vaccine, get a vaccine. and that's what we need to do. >> dr. michael osterholm, thank you. sanjay, going to see you in a moment. every course of action depends
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on finding a vaccine. dr. fauci took part in the coronavirus town hall. this is what he said about that search. >> everybody wants to get a vaccine for the safety of their country and if possible make it available to the world. i can only speak to what we're doing, we have a core group of number of candidates we at nih, fda, other agencies of government, d.o.d., including the department of defense, included are working together now to try to get a situation where we can get something that's done, that's safe, that's effective, and quick and that you can scale up. >> joining me now dean of the school of tropical medicine and director for center for vaccine development at children's hospital, currently working on covid-19 vaccine. how realistic do you think the goals set by the administration around a vaccine are? >> first of all, wyatt, i'm going to add to the congratulations, when you're
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ready to apply for md, ph.d. program, i'm here for you. >> i'll let him know, thank you. >> congratulations. >> thanks. what do you think about the administration goals? >> well, look. there's no question there needs to be an effort to accelerate a vaccine. what we're seeing now is at least a dozen candidates going into clinical trials, hopefully including ours over the summer, may get at least 20 candidates. reason you're doing that is to get as many shots on goal as you can. so the concept is not that complicated. you have to basically create an immune response to that spike protein, to prevent it from binding to the receptor. the question is what's the best way to do it. number of ways to do it in experimental animals, so hearing about rna vaccines, combinant protein vaccines like ours, we don't know what will be best in
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human clinical trials, what works best and safest. that's going to be a problem. taking that time, year or 18 months to figure that out is the bottleneck. >> heard you say that vaccine while important technology to fight a virus, it's not necessarily a silver bullet. what do you mean by that? >> you'll probably have multiple vaccines that come out, 90% don't just -- 90% will probably drop off. then have two or three vaccines hopefully at end of this, some work better than others. other thing to mention is united states history often is first vaccine that is ultimately licensed is not the vaccine that we wind up with. we have for instance the influenza type b vaccine only worked in infants above one or two. then john robbins modified it,
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stuck that capsule on the protein, made it a better vaccine than was used for infants. saw with the rona virus. usually version 1.0 is not the one we end up with. >> even if there's one in 18 months, might not work for most people and does it take another 18 months to modify or is that a faster process? >> sometimes it's faster, sometimes it can take a couple of years after that. so what you're going to see is rollout of multiple vaccines and technologies. i love nick osterholm, he's usually right, but in that 60 to 70%, between now and then, we might have for instance, a form of pre-exposure prophylaxis for covid-19. might have better treatments. you're going to see a whole lot of new technologies rolled out
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over the next year. >> do we know -- we don't know for sure if antibodies equal immunity right? that's the kind of thing that is still in the back of my mind that makes me very worried that what if people who have had antibodies who have had coronavirus are not immune? >> i think it's going to turn out they will. we saw it with sars one, if you had antibodies to the spike protein, like the vaccine we're making, you seem to be protected. now remember, the chinese did it in rhesus macaques. i think for -- maybe those have susceptible to reinfection or have quickly waning immunity. we don't know for certain, brand new virus but i think it's good
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probability that those who get a full-blown covid-19 infection, symptomatic, develop antibodies, will be resistant to reinfection some period of time. sars one varied one to several years. again, it's a brand new virus, and we're going to to learn a lot in the coming years. >> hope you're right. echos what most experts say. dr. hotez, thank you very much. still to come, mayor of los angeles, eric garcetti joins us. we'll discuss the news at the top of the hour that the governor of the state gavin newsom says he will begin to reopen in early stages, the state, in just a matter of day, rather than weeks. we'll talk about what that may look like in los angeles. sanjay is back with sean penn and how his agency is trying to combat coronavirus with testing in the atlanta area. at philadelphia, we know what makes
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tonight discussing the push by nation's governors to reopen economies and allow citizens to engage in public life again. california governor gavin newsom had said it would be weeks, no longer. >> we are -- we said weeks not months about four or five days ago. i want to say many days, not weeks. as long as we continue to be prudent and thoughtful in certain modifications we'll be making i think some announcements. >> joining us now, los angeles mayor eric garcetti. thanks so much for being with us. what does that look like for you in los angeles, early steps in a couple of days, what would that look like? >> i don't know if it means a couple of days but we have an order that runs through may 15th
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in its current incarnation. it is great to hear that from the governor who has done a great job of leading here in california. we've been bringing together people from different industries. even with stay-at-home order, in construction industry, able to assess the risk, safely, inspect the workplace, get ppe to construction workers, and we haven't seen an outbreak while we continue with critical infrastructure. it's not just a date but the process. what's the need, what's the risk, how much you can assess that risk and abate with it safety measures. if it's passing those tests, it's time to take steps forward, as he said prudently and smartly. >> do you see it happening in days, not weeks? >> depends how you count, 14 days is two weeks from -- >> you're going to stick with 14 before making adjustments?
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>> we're open to it. i think it's so important for mayors, politicians, to listen to the doctors. if public health professionals tell us a couple of days before that, it is now safe to do x, y, and z, and we feel we can do the same thing, i'm focused on recreational spaces, maybe some retail establishments and manufacturing, those three sectors would be great places i think to take some initial steps, get some people back to work, get some people outside to be healthy and also make sure that we have some jobs back in our economy. >> places like retail and manufacturing, do you have a sense of what that looks like? is it for retail the stores have a -- people inside the stores? street entrance that people -- like right now i buy coffee from a place next to me that used to be be a bar but set up basically, due go in, and window on the street and you get your coffee. how would retail work?
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>> we've seen some work now. grocery stores open but also targets and big box stores or pharmacies, which have more than just medicine and food in them, have shown you can mandate rules, space people outside, limit how many people are in there. that should go for mom and pop stores, too. might need temperature checks for people, limit amount of time somebody can stay in there. but i'm concerned for small businesses. we've proven we can do this safely and bend the curve in l.a. i think we can do it across america. as long as we do steps, take steps, wait about two or three weeks, see the impact, and then go forward, or freeze where we are or if the numbers are bad, do we retreat. it's that kind of -- what's difficult is it was clear closing down but messier business but time to start trying it. we have info and examples around the world. i think we can do that with confidence.
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>> how are you in los angeles with testing and contact tracing? >> testing, we were first big city in america to announce we were not only testing for all symptomatic people but this week very excitedly two days ago we opened up to folks without symptom, and we were able to keep up with that demand so far, it is a critical step for moving forward. tracking and tracing, the county health department has done a good job but i'm calling for nationwide cares corps, with mayor of new york city and dr. mcclellan who used to run the fda, we need people, and senator kunze is introducing bipartisan lejsz lation soon. what peace corps was, get people back to work, get contact tracing we need to have confidence this won't spread more quickly. >> do you know how many people you would need for contact tracing in los angeles?
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>> probably need a couple thousand people for county of 10 million. 300,000 for the country, might be more than that, 3% of the population lives in los angeles county for the nation more or less. could be as much as that, according to those stats, 9,000 people. it's great way to get young people to have summer job, a great way to get the unemployed back to work. and we have a lot of city workers who can't go back to libraries. london breed in san francisco enlisting them as supplemental staff, already on the payroll, put them to work in new role. >> mayor garcetti, appreciate the time -- >> before we go, one quick thing, i know in midst of all of this, you had amazing thing happen. we have a certificate, from my daughter maya, we wanted to congratulate you on the birth of wyatt. couldn't give it in person but amazing to see this happen in midst of crisis.
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congratulations. >> i pete pieced together, i pieced together a nursery in the midst of all of this, so there is nothing hanging on the walls so i'll hang that. >> all love. >> thank you mayor, thanks maya. up next, sanjay and sean penn in atlanta.
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there's little doubt there is more testing available as the coronavirus pandemic continues, thankfully. also little doubt much more is needed. in atlanta, sean penn and his organization are helping as many people as they can. >> it's a call to arms but a call to unity in the country that's exhilarating to be part of, win or lose. >> reporter: sean penn with his organization core is in the fight. trying to fill in gaps in
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emergencies like he did in haiti in 2010. now during this pandemic, his focus is on testing. >> reality is that in a time where we know there are limited ppe and test kits available for these operations, reality is that we should be testing, retesting and retesting. >> reporter: reopening here in georgia will look like this next few days. problem is many people without symptoms could be still spreading the virus. that is why testing is so crucial. to know that you don't have the virus before going into public. >> you think of testing generally, at doctor's office or hospital or something like that, obviously these are unusual circumstances, but is this necessary? is this because there are gaps in testing overall in atlanta? >> most definitely, everywhere, not just atlanta. we need to have a huge volume of people tested, relying on
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existing infrastructure is not possible. >> reporter: how much is enough to get country up and running? harvard researchers say 5 million tests per day by early june and by late summer nearly whole country would need to be tested every 14 days, 20 million tests a day. it's a number white house task force member admiral brett giroir told "time" magazine there's absolutely no way on earth on this planet or any other planet that we can do 20 million tests a day or even 5 million tests a day. >> people denying the possibility are not talking to people who know what's possible. >> mercedes-benz stadium in atlanta, how did this come together for core? >> this was sort of a direct extension of what we were doing in los angeles.
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in that situation, we -- it occurred to us we had a model to share, our los angeles site of this size can do above 1,000 tests per day in single site. >> reporter: like in los angeles offering the diagnostic swab test for free through appointments on their county website. >> every essential worker, symptomatic or asymptomatic are invited to be tested. we're beginning with criteria of symptomatics if they're not essential workers. >> reporter: by essential, he just doesn't mean health care workers, anyone on the front line, grocery worker, delivery people, ride share and public transit drivers and those in construction. hope is not to take over the world of testing, that's going to require major steps by public health agencies and commercial labs, but it is about creating a
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model on a smaller scale where cities can team up with organizations ready to help in this time of crisis. >> and sanjay joins us now. also bring in danielle allen, director of harvard center for ethics. professor, you emphasized the need to massively scale up testing. potentially 20 million people bit late summer. you heard admiral brett giroir saying it's just not possible, 5 million is not possible, is he wrong? >> to be clear about our numbers, we advocate 5 million a day with good contact tracing. if contact tracing is not effective, then you need 20 million a day. not exactly sure what the admiral meant, the white house testing blueprints on monday points to innovation pathway, for testing, so the white house
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has pointed out quite a number of significant numbers of tests. in particular, the blueprints includes that the genome sequencing factor in the country could be turned on to support testing. that is capacity that could absolutely be million as day. 400 sequencing machines in the country, each could do 750,000 samples a day. we have the capacity, white house blueprint pointed straight to it. interesting conversation. >> it's amazing in your estimation the difference between 5 million tests a day and 20 million is contact tracing. what kind of number does you see? do you have a sense of how many people are needed nationwide for contact tracing? >> mayor talked about 300,000 nationwide, that's good number to be focused on. important that every state and local government is making a clear plan. that's what matters now. the cdc changed the guidance for testing on monday, so it includes asymptomatic people are a priority. they were not previously
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included in the priority. and the guidance for testing asymptomatics would be according to the plans of local officials, public health officials, local and state plans. though we've hit that point where every municipality and state government needs to figure out its own targets for testing and that will answer the questions how much contact tracing we need. >> one of the things we were talking about with bill gates is home testing, quick turnaround times. so people aren't unknowingly infecting other people. what is hold up on that? gates is saying there's data to show other forms of swabs, not just this one particular one are effective. is it -- he was talking about fda, there's an approval process. do we know what the holdup is on that? >> i think some of it is the same supply chain issues you've had with the other tests. as was just mentioned, the testing capacity has improved,
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some of what i think bill gates was talking about, able to do it in home and getting results back which would be better obviously. one of the big concerns is someone gets tested, couple of days goes by before they get results and they're out there asymptomatically potentially infecting people. that would be a significant move if we could do that. we're not there yet. other thing is, you see big testing sites like what sean has set up, but the idea of having more point of location testing. so at workplaces, places where people actually are, being able to take testing to them there as opposed to people coming to sites for testing. i think we'll see more of that happen as well. >> sanjay, profession fesser allen, thank you very much. core response.org/covid if you would like more information.
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as we've been reporting, great many states are beginning the slow process of opening up the economy, doesn't mean the virus is less contagious or deadly when we found out about it in march. if you're one of millions of americans now wearing a mask or thinking about it, next story is significant. how far an unprotected cough can travel and what the impacts will be. randi kaye went it a lab in florida where they can measure these things. >> heavy cough, three, two, one. >> reporter: inside this lab at
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florida atlantic university, two engineering professors are measuring the power of a cough. >> three, two, one. >> reporter: using a dummy, fill its mouth with glycerin and water, then with a pump, force the dummy to cough, wait to see how far the droplets travel. they fill the air, visible with green laser light, simulating what happens when we cough. >> generates 10 to 20 microns, close to the smallest droplet sizes when we cough. >> reporter: take note how quickly this simulated droplets spread. expelled three feet almost immediately. within five seconds, six feet, then nine feet in just about ten seconds. nine feet is three feet beyond the recommended social distancing guidelines.
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>> already reaching roughly nine feet and moving farther, slowly. >> reporter: fog of droplets lingered but kept moving forward, another three feet in 40 seconds. >> closer to 12 feet now. >> reporter: yes, he said 12 feet. over and over again the simulated droplets blew past the six-foot mark, often doubling that distance. >> it has passed three feet, approaching six feet. and looks like it has crossed six feet. and now it has slowed down. >> reporter: how long might they linger at nine and 12 feet? >> nine feet could linger two to three minutes, but the -- the concentration is less than what it would be at six feet, by a factor of eight. >> reporter: professors say the droplets are less dense further they travel but still hang in
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the air and can carry disease. watch this. even with a simple mask on the dummy, particles dispersed from the sides of the mask. they didn't travel far. if you're not wearing a mask you're supposed to cough into your elbow but if you cough into your hand, this is what happens. let's turn off the lights. put the hand against the mouth of this dummy and simulate a cough. droplets spray in all directions, don't travel as far but spray everywhere and can linger in air for as long as three minutes. intensity of the cough matters. tested a gentle cough too. the lighter cough didn't go very far at all, about three feet, but the question remains, how close is too close? do you think that six feet is enough for social distancing? >> six feet is minimum distance you should keep. seems that -- >> further is better?
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>> further is better. >> it's amazing to see that randi, blows me away. i'm guessing they have different results outside though? >> reporter: absolutely. we shot that indoors in small lab. outside would be completely different story, even with a slight breeze like i'm feeling in florida tonight, jet or droplets would disperse upward, to the side, wouldn't travel far, three or four feet but indoors what was fascinating to me is how long they hang in the air indoors. at times, maybe three or four minutes. walked into elevator, restaurant now they're starting to open, somebody had coughed, you didn't know about it, droplets would still be in the air. sneeze is much more powerful, would be more droplets traveling further. not comforting. but as i toss it back to you, anderson, we're all finding
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because we're social distancing, i am going to congratulate you this way a. i'm going to pinch those little cheeks of his. >> thank you very much. really appreciate it. well, it's the reality that randy was just showing us that's partly why many businesses are keeping their doors closed, even if they are allowed to open. jamie booth, the owner of a hair salon in atlanta, someone who is making that choice. keeping her shop closed when she, by law, could open up. jamie, thanks for joining us. you know, i'm sorry it's under these circumstances. georgia's obviously been at the forefront of opening back. just talk about the decision not to open. >> the decision not to open is based on looking into what the cdc has to say, what the mayor of atlanta has to say, and what science has to say. versus what everyone else is doing in georgia or what some people are doing in georgia right now. because i'm seeing numbers climb, every day, in georgia.
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and as much as i want to go back into my salon and open my doors, as the numbers are climbing, i still don't feel comfortable doing that. >> we spoke was it one week ago or two weeks ago? >> one week ago. >> one week ago. and you had customers calling you saying, you know what, not saying i want to book an appointment. but saying, you know, how you doing? you know, stay safe. don't do something that endangers yourself. >> yes, and for the most part, they're still saying that. and of course they've got another week's worth of growth on their hair, so i'm sure some of them are starting to get frustrated and wonder when i'm going to open the doors. but they are being supportive of me because they know i think i'm making the right decision and everyone wants to stay safe. and i still stand by my decision and i just don't feel safe opening up again yet. >> i want people to understand this is really difficult decision for a lot of people. but, in your case, you've been cutting hair for over two decades. it's your main source of income. it's the only source of income you have is from the number of
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haircuts you give every week. that's a really tough decision. >> it is and i go through so many different emotions every day. like i did call my mortgage company to find out about their forbearance program and i'm doing that. and i got the bills at the salon, the bills at my house. and i'm a single mom of a 16-year-old son, and i am the only financial provider for both of us. and i'm just going to figure this out, as i go along, because i feel like, in my heart, it's the only choice i have right now. >> i understand you were contacted by somebody who talked about possibly paying your rent and your mortgage? >> yes, i was. i've had a lot of people reach out and show me kindness and love. i could tell stories for the next hour. but there was a lady by the name of kari and she said kari like ferrari to make sure i pronounc pronounced her name right because she was excited about me telling the story. someone showed her some kindness
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about a decade ago when she was in a tough spot. and she asked me how much the rent was on my salon, and three days later, a check for that amount showed up in my mailbox. i've talked to her for about 30 minutes on the telephone today, in fact. >> that's incredible. someone who went through troubles of their own, passing it forward, years and years later. that's such a blessing. to those watching right now, to your clients, your supporters, what message do you want to share with them? >> well, i started getting my ppe supplies today. boxes are showing up at my house, and i am doing everything that i can to prepare to open, when i feel safe to do so. and my clients already know this, but i love them. they are like family to me, and they've been with me for five, ten, 15, and some of them, for 22 years. and i want them to know i love them. and the moment i feel safe enough to go back into the salon, my doors will be open again. and i'll be ready to, hopefully,
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go back to some semblance of normality at that point in time. >> and the salon as i remember it's called milange, right? >> that is correct. >> i thought i said i i'd love to get my hair cut with you so next time i'm in atlanta, i will. >> congratulations on the birth of wyatt. he's beautiful. i'm so happy for you. >> thanks very much. he's got a little bit of hair so doesn't need a cut just yet. thanks a lot, jamie. up next, we remember the victims of this pandemic, including b beloved sports photographer and others and the lives they lived. versus the other guys. ♪ clearly, velveeta melts creamier. it only takes a second for an everyday item to become dangerous. tide pods child-guard pack helps keep your laundry pacs in a safe place and your child safer. align, press and unzip.
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doing so many nights, we want to take some time to remember some of the lives lost from coronavirus here in the u.s. anthony cossi was a long-time sports photographer for the new york post. he grew up in brooklyn.
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joined "the post" in 1994. it was his dream job to cover new york sports teams. the editor in chief of the paper said he was one of the best sports photographers in the business. loved and respected not only by his colleagues but also by the players he covered. he leaves behind a wife and two young children. anthony was 48 years old. reggie bagalo was a freshman state lawmaker who was elected to office just last year. he was republican and represented parishes in the southern part of the state. he was always an active volunteer, wanting to make his community a better place for everyone. his son said he was profoundly honest who loved unceasingly. michael yoon was a councilman from new jersey. he immigrated from the south korea in 1979. he and his wife jennifer settled in jersey city where they ran a small convenience store. he later told a local paper that it was the start of his american dream. 2013, he was elected to the jersey city council and his
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slogan was simple. serve the people. he was also a devoted dad, grandfather, and a husband. michael yun was 65 years old. our thoughts go out to all of their families, and all families right now impacted by the coronavirus. the news continues. want to turn things over to chris for "cuomo prime time." chris. >> well, it is so important for you to remember those who are lost. but, i cannot let go, the amazing gift that you gave all of us, who are separate for signs of a better tomorrow. and i'm not going to give you some hollow congratulations because i'm uncle mo. how many hours are we putting a night? what's wyatt given you so far? >> well, you cut out. but how many hours awake? he actually -- last night -- >> how long is he asleep during the night? >> oh. you know, last night, he was up quite a bit after like 2:00 a.m. but, he's been sleeping a lot, which i appreciate. but it's, you know,