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and good evening, everybody. 43 states expected to be reopen, to some degree, by this weekend. 43 states. i want to show you a map, right now, compiled by cnn of where we are, as a country, in terms of reopening and in terms of the virus itself. there, you see the map. the darker states. those are states where the numbers of coronavirus cases are actually going down. the orange and the lighter color there are where they are, either, going up or about the same. you can see the vast majority of states, the numbers are still going up or about the same. i want to check in with cnn's nick watt in los angeles for a roundup of the latest. nick. >> well, anderson, good news. we just heard, for the 10
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million people here, in los angeles county, it will start reopening on friday. we're told that among the first things to open are going to be some trails, some golf courses, some nonessential businesses, including florists and car dealerships. but we are being warned that it will be slow, and not all the news out of california this afternoon is good. we've also heard from the governor, who says that, across this country, we are going to be seeing depression-era unemployment numbers. he says that, over the past three days alone, california has paid out more than $2 billion in unemployment benefits. whatever we do, however we do it, we are going to be feeling some pain for some time to come. >> the new york city subway closed overnight. first time in over 100 years. to clean the cars. >> we have turned the corner, and we're on the decline. you take new york out of the national numbers. the numbers for the rest of the
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nation are going up. what we're doing, here, shows results. >> across the country as a whole, the new case count is not falling. hovering somewhere over 20,000 every single day. >> i think that we need to understand this may be the new normal. we may not be able to get transmission down much more. i hope we can. >> but many places reopening anyway. hotspots now growing in cities like dallas. some more rural flare ups, too, but better testing might just play into all this. >> that there were more cases out there. they just weren't known because the testing was so low. >> former cdc director told lawmakers today that the u.s. death toll will exceed 100,000. >> as bad as this has been, it's just the beginning. >> airlines now hoping we'll get back in the air. average passengers per plain is up to 23 from just 17, last
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week. all but these seven states are now taking steps to get back in business. on monday, restaurants could open in florida. on tuesday, cops in jacksonville had to break up a tailgate party at a taco stand. >> the risk of the coronavirus is a scam. >> one company working on creating therapeutics using blood from the recovered now says it might have something on the market, by the end of the summer. >> we can clone out the best of antibodies from recovered humans. we selected the best ones to create a antibody cocktail, as we call it. >> and who is this coronavirus infecting? well, around 90% of positives in san francisco's mission district are people unable to work from home, according to a new study. 95% of them, latin x. another new study finds that black americans are 13.4% of the
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population, but counties with higher black populations are home to nearly 60% of all covid-19 deaths. >> we're still seeing a disproportionate number of black chicago as people who are dying as a result of covid-19. >> nick, when it comes to travel, i understand the two big companies have announced new cleaning procedures. >> that's right. we -- we heard from marriott hotels today and southwest. and they are both using what's called electrostatic misting. it basically adds a positive charge to the disinfectant, as it's being sprayed out. and that helps the disinfectant sort of coat and -- and stick to whatever surface you're spraying it on. listen. these companies realize that they can reopen. but, unless consumers are confident, then they're not going to come back. anderson. >> yeah. nick watt, appreciate it.
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my next guest, testified on capitol hill today about whether any of the states are actually meeting the very guidelines that the white house, itself, put out. even though president trump is now encouraging many of these states to reopen. insisting that they reopen. according to this -- my next guest, none of these states have fully met the guidelines that the white house coronavirus task force actually set out for reopening here. i want to have you listen to what my next guest said today on capitol hill. this is what kaitlan rivers said. >> to the best of your knowledge, is there a single state that has met the necessary parameters to ease restrictions? >> there are four criteria that states should meet in order to safely reopen. and not all states have adopted these criteria but i will review them, just as a starting point. the first is to see the number of cases decline for at least two weeks, and some states have met that criteria. but there are three other criteria, and we suggest they
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should all be met. another is enough capacity to conduct tracing on all new cases. enough diagnostic testing to test everyone with covid-like symptoms, not just those people with severe illness and enough healthcare system capacity to treat everyone safely. to my knowledge, there are no states that meet all four of those criteria. >> joining me now is kaitlan rivers, also assistant professor at the universities department of environmental health and engineering. also, joining us is dr. sanjay gupta. professor rivers, i mean, no states has met all the criteria, at this stage? >> it's true all places are in different places of their epidemic. we heard from governor cuomo in the opening clip that new york has really turned the corner, which is great news. but there are other places that are still really seeing an acceleration of their outbreak. we have also seen some states done have enough testing capacity to test everyone with covid-like symptoms and states are also still working on expanding their contact tracing
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capability in order to be able to manage cases which is a quite a labor-intensive process. the good news, in addition to some states turning the corner, is healthcare capacity has really been one of the leading indicators. we've had more success treating everyone who needs treatment with covid-like symptoms than the other three criteria. >> sanjay, you know, the map that we showed earlier, that cnn compiled, where you see where all the states are. i mean, it is surprising the number of states which still have, either, kind of the same number of cases or actually cases going up. and, yet, those are some of the very states that are looking at reopening. >> yeah. i mean, there's no question. and we just looked at the data again. just over the last couple of hours. a and, in many of these states, even some of the one that have been going down, if you look carefully, even they've had some upticks recently. so if you compile that data, it's not even clear that they meet the most basic criteria, which is to have this 14-day downward trend.
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and, keep in mind, anderson, as we've talked about, as states reopen between the time people might get exposed because of this reopening and the time they may subs kweptly equently teste virus, a couple weeks could go by. so we may not see the impact of this for some time. look, we reopened. everything hasn't changed but we're good. but you got to wait because we know the trends, the time lag there. >> yeah. i mean, professor rivers, you know, you could look at georgia which, as we all know, the governor there reopened, you know, on a friday. it was certain businesses like beauty salons and the like. one day, there were restaurants and movie theaters. and, yet, their numbers seem just about the same. does that tell you anything? or is it also there's -- as sanjay said, there's this couple-week lag? >> there will be a couple-week lag. i don't think we will be able to fully assess the impact of
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reopening for more in the order of three to four weeks, if not months. and for states that are looking to reopen, i think it's important to lead with public-health risk assessments. and so we have suggested that it should be low-risk activities that are the first that are reintroduced into the community. things that are outside are a great place to start. we know that being outdoors is great for mental health. it's great to get fresh air, especially since we have all been inside now. preferred over diving into high-contact settings. >> so that would be, what? opening up parks and just other outdoor spaces? >> or creating more outdoor spaces? >> that's right. some states have chosen to close their outdoor areas, their parks, their playgrounds, and so on. those would be good options to reopen. you do want to be careful about high-contact surfaces and, also, outdoor spaces that are shared, like restrooms at beaches, for
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example. those might be more ricky thsky just being outdoors but those outd door spaces i think could be a great first step. >> kaylee mcenany. again, no one suggesting every single american has to be tested in order to reopen. that's sort of a false premise. but i am wondering what is your perspective on testing? you spoke about the need for more testing today at the hearing. >> that's right. last week, the united states ran about 1.6 million tests, which is a huge improvement over what we saw in march, and even in early april. but it's still not to the level that many spertexperts recommen. recommendations start at 3.5 million tests per week and go up from there so there is a gap to close. and i think our first priority should be putting together a plan, and identifying how we will get from here to there. i think understanding what the timeline is and what our expected future capacities will be is really important for helping to guide our next moves.
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and so that's one of the recommendations i made at the hearing today. >> sanjay, i mean, is the federal government still, you know, are they still doing anything about -- i mean, what are they doing about testing? the president obviously was talking about -- and the vice president was talking about, you know, doing away of the with the coronavirus task force. now, he seems to have kind of backtracked on that because he discovered how popular it is. which is an odd thing that's the thing that might save the coronavirus task force. but are they still trying to raise the amount of testing in the u.s.? >> well, i think they are. i mean, you know, it's interesting because we do hear different things. at some point, i think president trump said, you know, i'm not sure that it's that important, anyway, testing. and it, clearly, is important. i mean, the specific numbers of tests that need to be done. i mean, there's all sorts of different proposals on that. some say, you know, it's not even really about the number of tests. it's when you start to get a certain amount of negatives.
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when you start getting 10% of the tests coming back as positive, you are starting to get a sense that you are attesting nuchtesting enough. but it's also the point of location testing. when we interviewed bill gates the other day, he was talking about things like kiosks and even at-home testing. we're not there yet. other countries around the world have had this kiosk testing. but it's just feeling comfortable. i think, ultimately, as people start to go back to work, can they feel comfortable that they can get tested, show that they're negative. have some confidence the people around them are not harboring the virus in their bodies as well. how you get to that point, i think, is the real question. and, clearly, it's more testing. exactly how much more, we don't know. but it's a lot more than we're doing now. >> and, professor, kaylee mcenany said if we tested everyone in the country, we'd have to retest them an hour later and an hour later after that because any moment, you could theoretically contract the virus. is that fair point? i mean, i guess the argument is
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what's the point of testing people if, an hour later, they could suddenly get exposed? >> it's true that the molecular test, the kind that you would get at the doctor's office to see whether you have an active infection are really only valid right now. because it's true that you could go on to be infected or you could be incubating a virus and you don't have enough of it yet for the test to pick up. that doesn't mean that testing doesn't matter, though. it just means that you have a result for today. and so, i think these strategies that require universal testing should take that into consideration. testing everybody once is not going to get us there. you would need to design a more comprehensive strategy for how you would use that beyond transmission. this is why we talk so much about contact tracing. with contact tracing, when someone gets a positive diagnosis, the people they have been in close contact with are alerted to their exposure and asked to stay home. and it's actually that staying home that is the intervention. it's not the testing. it's the staying away from other people. so those two things really need to be linked. >> it's a really interesting point, sanjay, and you referenced bill gates.
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the other thick he was talking about, last week on the -- our town hall -- was that, you know, the white house number of 200,000 tests are available. he was saying that's really a bogus number because the wait time, on a number of those tests, is so long that it's kind of irrelevant. by the time you get it -- get the results, you evhave exposed yourself, potentially, to any number of people. so sort of just a general number of tests, it may look good on paper. but it doesn't really work in real life. >> yeah. no. i think it's a really fair point. i mean, most people sort of protectively or prophylactically isolate themselves while awaiting results. they could go on to potentially expose other people. and we also know that you can -- you can still be contagious, even before you would develop any symptoms. maybe even more contagious before you develop symptoms, some of the studies have shown. so that's -- that's a big issue. another issue that came up is that some of these tests have a
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significant false-negative rate. up to 15% false negative. so people think that they are negative for the virus. i'm good. i'm clear. i'll do whatever. but, in fact, you know, some of these tests, 15% of the time, that's not an accurate result. so these are problems that got to be fixed. they got to be quick tests. they have to be accurate tests. and they have to be widely available. >> profess ever rivers, the former cdc director, tom friedman, who testified alongside you just today, said that we're just at the beginning of the pandemic. and i spoir to lori garrett last night on the program, journalist. and she's been warning epidemic like this for decades. she said her best-case scenario is 36 months and that was a best-case scenario involving a lot of things going right in terms of the search for a vaccine and social distancing. how long a timeframe are you looking at? >> we've heard from dr. fauci that 12 to 18 amongs is the timeframe that the administration is considering for a vaccine. that is faster than you would
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normally expect a vaccine. but we've never had so much motivation before. and, by that, i mean we never have faced such a crisis that required us to call on all of our resources. and so i think 12 to 18 months is the number we should keep in mind. that being said, i don't think we're all going to have to stay home for 12 to 18 months. i think there will be a period where we are able to shift from everyone having to stay home to slow the spread into these case-based interventions, quarantine you hear so much about. how our lives look over the next 12 to 18 months, it will change. we will start to reintroduce more tftds inactivities into th community. but until we have the vaccine, our lives will look different than before. >> but 12 to 18 months, according to lori garrett, doesn't that mean you may also have a vaccine by then, but are you able to produce it in the billions of amounts that will be necessary? and, also, does the company that makes that vaccine, does the patent -- do they not care about
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a patent and they just give this out to the world and lose all the money that they've potentially invested in it? >> it is' true that identifying a safe and effective vaccine is the first step. you also need to look at manufacturing, distribution the good news these are things we can be planning for and investing in now. we don't know which final product, which vaccine, is going to be the winner and that makes it a little more difficult to plan around. but we can start to identify what are those opportunities to shorten that timeline, to scale up our capacities? so when there is a product available, we have what we need to get it to people as quickly as possible. >> professor rivers, appreciate it. sanjay, thanks so much. just a reminder. tomorrow is our tenth consecutive coronavirus town hall. sanjay and i, gathering together for this coronavirus town hall. facts and fears. two hours. the latest on the virus, the science, answers to your questions. joining us will be award-winning journalist, lori garrett, author of the coming plague. spike lee, who is going to premiere a new short film about
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tonight, we are talking about the push from the white house to reopen the economy. many believe yesterday the coronavirus task force may not be around to see much longer in order to give guidance. president trump and the vice president both indicated the group might be disbanded. there was a lot of outcry about that. and instead, president trump backed away from that idea. joining us from the white house is jim acosta. jim, what happened? because, first, it was winding down. the vice president indicated it. now, the president says it's back on again. and his reasoning was kind of surprising. i -- for -- for why -- what he said about it. explain. >> yeah. surprising, and not so surprising, anderson. yesterday, the president was
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saying we are ready to move onto other things. wear moving to other phases of reopening country and basically indicating they are going to wind down the work of this task force. then, today, tweeted it's going to stay around indefinitely and he likes to keep it arounds as it's ended up being something popular that his administration is doing. and here's what he had to say. >> i guess you always think we're winding it down. but it's a question of what the endpoint is. but i think it is a change a little bit. i thought we could wind it down sooner. but i had no idea how popular the task force is until, actually yesterday, when i started talking about winding it down, i get calls from very respected people saying i think it'd be better to keep it going. it's done such a good job. it's a respected task force. it's -- i -- i knew it, myself. i didn't know whether or not it was appreciated by the public. >> and, anderson, the president
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went on to say that dr. anthony fauci, dr. deborah birx, they are going to be staying on the task force. and i talked to an administration official who is familiar with some of these meetings that are going on. these task force meetings. and this official said, you know, look, yes, in the past, dr. fauci has rankled people and said things that will contradict the president, from time to time. but now, even the president himself have come to this realization that dr. fauci is going to say what he wants to say, and speak his mind. and, for now, they've made their peace with that. >> i mean, let's translate this into reality, though. i mean, clearly, the president, you know, saw how popular the task force was. jumped onto it. used it for his own purposes to do, you know, campaign-style long talks, while dr. fauci and dr. birx would sit on the side. and, then, they'd be allowed to speak. the reason it's so popular is because people are, literally,
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in some cases, dying waiting for facts and scientific information that will save them. and people are tuning in because they want that -- that scientific information and now for the president to say he's just surprised how popular it is. it's not a popularity contest. i know he's talked about the ratings before. that's the thing that stands out to him, as opposed to the virus task force, a, it is supposedly the hub of the federal government response to a pandemic, which is still ongoing, and killing large numbers of people. kayleigh mcenany also saying the president doesn't want dr. fauci testifying before the house. what'd she have to say about that? >> again, another contradiction here. yesterday, the president was telling reporters he didn't want dr. fauci to testify in front of the house appropriations committee because he didn't want dr. fauci to testify in front of what he called trump haters. the new press secretary said, no, they're not blocking dr.
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fauci from testifying on capitol hill. yes, they are stopping him from testifying in the house but they're allowing him to testify in front of the senate. sort of overlooking the fact that the president said, one day earlier, it was basically for blatant political reasons as to why dr. fauci is not going to be testing in the house. kaylee mcenany pledged to the american people last week that she is not going to lie in these briefings but she certainly was spinning in that answer. just not really in touch with reality. >> why does the white house control dr. fauci and where he speaks? i mean, i don't understand. i mean, why aren't the scientists liberated to speak where they want to speak? and feel, you know, to speak to democratically-elected representatives. >> anderson, i think one of the reasons why, we saw this earlier back in march. dr. fauci was testifying in -- in the house. and he was asked about how
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testing was going in this country. and he told the truth. essentially, at that point, when he testified, testing for the coronavirus had been a failure. that did not go over well inside the white house. and so i think their concern, that if it's a democratic-led committee, that they can take dr. fauci to places that the white house doesn't want him to go. the problem is that he's going to be testifying in front of the senate next week. in front of a republican-led committee, led by lamar alexander. but there will be democrats on that committee asking questions and dr. fauci will not hold back. he will say what's on his mind, despite what they want him to say inside the white house. >> you would think some republicans would also be asking uncomfortable questions because there is a lot of questions to be asked. joini joining me now, samantha power. ambassador power, thanks for being with us. you describe that the u.s. response to this virus is fatally inadequate. last month, you wrote that if president trump continues a
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go-it-alone approach, the virus will cause quote catastrophic loss of life and make it impossible to restore normalcy in the united states in the foreseeable future. do -- are we on that road now? >> the road to catastrophe? well, certainly, the spread of the pandemic is a catastrophe for any family that is touched by it. and you are seeing it moving, now, into developing countries that have nowhere near the wherewithal to handle it. and we know how hard it is in a developed nation, like this one. so it's not going well. there was a funders conference, a couple days ago in europe. where president macron of france, merkel, even boris johnson, prime minister of the united kingdom, came and made pledges to try to pull national resources, so as to be able to distribute ppe, mask loads, meds. and ultimately, when there is a vaccine, potentially be in a position to distribute vaccine.
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and the united states didn't even show up. not even a junior diplomat in the chair. madonna gave more resources to that pledging conference than the united states of america. so the leadership from the u.s. is not happening. luckily, other countries are starting to step up, along with people like bill gates, who, themselves, again, are donating more as foundations or even as individuals, than the entire federal government of the united states. but, again, it's only going to get worse before it gets better. >> yeah. i mean, if china develops a vaccine or some other country develops a vaccine, i'm wondering if there is a potential for -- you know, if there is a division between us and the rest of the world on this. we're not participating in the global effort. we're not -- the w.h.o. and others are in this conference. you know, it seems like it -- it's sort of ignoring the obvious, which is, this is a global pandemic, and we are all in this together. and what happens in one place
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affects us, as well. >> well, there are many respects in which we're in it together. so one is that, you know, because of america's supply chains, which extend into so many developing countries, including bangladesh, china, india. we really do have an economic vested interest in the pandemic not raging over communities. >> that's where a lot of our prescription drugs come from. >> for example, which -- which would come in handy right about now. so there's -- there's that sense of connectivity. and you would think, again, that president trump would be focusing on that because the return to economic normalcy is a driving imperative for him. but the other way in which we're connected is we can learn from one another. you know, the staggered spread of this disease allowed us to learn, for example, from taiwan, which knew, from the very beginning, not to believe china's data. not to believe statements coming out of the chinese government. and they took some of the quickest preparations and, thus,
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ended up in a very strong position to combat the pandemic. which they have done. hong kong, too. the authorities there and the citizens paying little attention to chinese claims, and shutting down travel to wuhan much quicker than other countries. south korea's testing. the spot testing they did. i think we each had our first case on the same day. and south korea, now, has recorded a day without any local cases, while we're facing a pandemic that is spiraling in so many communities in the united states. so there is learning to be done. and then what you talk about, of course, the vaccine, the pooling of scientific expertise. i think a lot of that collaboration does, still, go on, behind the scenes. but we do want to be in a position where, no matter who the inventor of the vaccine is, that our citizens are in a position to be able to benefit from that vaccine. we have reason to believe confident that our scientists and the investments that we are making in supporting those efforts, operation warp speed i
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think president trump has called it. we have every reason to hope that with all of the expertise that we have, that -- that the united states will fare very well in this concentrated, accelerated effort to get a vaccine. but it is, still, in our interest for the virus to be wiped out rkall around the eart even if we end up in the pull position. >> ambassador power, appreciate your time. thank you very much. difficult days. up next, the heartwrenching story of a pregnant nurse on the front lines, who got coronavirus herself and faced terrible complications. my interview with her sister, in a moment. (vo) what does it mean to be america's most reliable network? right now, it means helping those who serve stay connected to their families. they're on the frontlines every day giving the most they can. so verizon wants to give them something back. introducing our best pricing ever. $30 per line for all nurses, teachers, first responders, military, and their families. not for a few months, but for as long as they need. because the people we rely on
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one note, today is national nurses day. time to secelebrate. appreciate those nurses on the front lines helping to battle coronavirus. there are obviously many stories of dedication and bravery in this crisis. but we want to tell you about one pregnant nurse, treating coronavirus patients in brooklyn, who got the virus herself, and now needs help. she is sylvia laroy and her baby was delivered prematurely and safely while sylvia was in a coma. that, by no means, is the end of the story. not the least. earlier, i spoke to her sister, shirley. >> so, shirley, can you just walk us through what happened to -- to your sister, after she contracted covid-19? >> sure. sylvia picked this up, likely, at work. she is on the front lines. she's a nurse at brookdale hospital. and she actually had gone into her hospital mid-march because she wasn't feeling well. she was nauseous. she was vomiting. she was also six months pregnant.
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so she didn't make much of it. and went to the hospital. had a quick stay. was sent back home with some antibiotics. and, then, a couple days later, she went back into the hospital. really not feeling well with a fever. and then they did a test for her. she tested positive for covid, and she rapidly deteriorated, in a merit atter of days. she went to mount sinai. the very next day, she was put on a ventilator. she was doing well. she was able to get in the trial with the ebola drug remdesivir. and was doing so well. we were so hopeful for her. in the meantime, my mom contracted covid. my mom developed pneumonia and had to stay in mount sinai, in the same hospital with sylvia. my mom went home. she recovered. my dad had a really mildly. but sylvia's was the worst.
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hers was really, really bad. but, after seven days, she came off the ventilator. she had icu delirium, which seems to be impacting a lot of folks that are coming off of the ventilators. and she was doing well. she was doing well, anderson. sylvia really wanted to facetime with me, and i very much regret it because i thought that she needed to rest. and she was supposed to be discharged to go home. and, you know, this was around 11:00 in the morning. and, then, you know, around 3:20 or 3:30 in the afternoon, i get a call from her attending doctor saying that sylvia coded. when we were on the phone together. and she was saying that she was so sorry for my sister. and i just -- i -- i was frozen on the phone. and i knew i had to call her husband. i was like i need to get jeff on the line. and we were listening, while they were administering cpr to her.
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and, after what i can only say is the most awful number of seconds or minutes that it took, they said they found a pulse. and they rushed her off to the operating room to have an emergency c section. she was 30 weeks pregnant, and so her baby esther was born. esther was born. thankfully, she's doing okay. she was a little blue, so you could tell there wasn't enough time or -- yeah -- she didn't have a lot of oxygen. she was a little blue. and she was whisked off to the nicu. and, then, my sister went back on the ventilator, back on life support. she had sustained eight minutes of no -- no -- you know, no -- no oxygen to her brain. they did an mri, and she
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suffered an brain injury. >> and of course, you're not able to be with her. to actually see her. >> no. i mean, in an otherwise non-covid world, our family would be with her. we would be touching her. we would be talking to her. we would be holding her. >> and i understand that there's a specific program that might be able to make a difference with sylvia. might be able to help her. what is that? >> yes. so i did a lot of research because what we're going through is some issues with insurance. i found out that sylvia could go to what's called acute rehabilitation for some specialized programs, that are only had at a handful of rehab centers across the country. >> i mean, she's a nurse. her insurance, you say, won't cover that? >> no. what we've learned from her insurance, she is part of a
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union called 11-99. and they have a subsidiary of cigna called care allies, who initially only wanted to cover her for 30 days, acute rehabilitation for her. sylvia needs months and months of rehab. we ran, you know, a story in "the new york post" and they agreed to, at least, go for 60 days. and we were told that we need to get private insurance because she's not eligible for medicaid. or try to do workers compensation because sylvia picked this up at work. but, unfortunately, with workers compensation, in new york, cases are just not being approved right now. >> and workers compensation isn't -- isn't being processed, at this point. i mean, this is -- what -- what do you do? i mean, what do you do? >> we put a gofundme page to see what we can fund for sylvia. sylvia has needs that none of us can comprehend. even a discharge plan.
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even getting sylvia into this rehabilitation center, where she -- this is her fighting chance. >> i mean, the idea that somebody is a nurse, who is dedicated their lives to helping other people in a time of need, cannot get, you know, the medical attention that -- that she needs is beyond horrific and unfair and devastating. could you just tell me a little bit about sylvia? i mean, what -- did -- did she love being a nurse? is this something she had always -- i mean, most nurses are -- are -- i mean, it's a calling. >> she started at brookdale hospital. and, years later, i asked her. i'm like why don't you leave? you can go into private practice. you can do some other things. and she said, you know, this is a disadvantaged, you know, group of people that live in this area. in the brownsville section of brooklyn. if i leave, who else is going to educate them? who else is going to care for
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them? that's the kind of sister that i have. she deserves a chance. she deserves to have whatever her best actual can be. >> surehirley, we are putting t go fund me page on the screen. and she deserves help. and -- and support and it's -- i -- i hope this helps. and we'll continue to follow this, shirley. i'm so sorry for what you and everybody in your family is going through. it's -- sylvia, we wish her the best and wish you the best. >> thank you, anderson. we appreciate it. thank you so much. >> it's just an outrageous story. this is a nurse who has dedicated her life, a pregnant nurse, dedicated her life to helping other people. got coronavirus. now, needs to go to this specialized facility, and is unable to because of the insurance she has.
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and what it will and will not cover, apparently. an incredible story. we reached out to, both, cigna and the nurses union. cigna told us it was not responsible for making the choices of what's covered. tonight, the union gave us this statement. our hearts go out to sylvia laroy and her family. while we are not able to discuss the details of individual cases due to confidentiality issues and hipaa requirements, we can tell you we are working to ensure that sylvia gets the care she needs. again, if you would like to help, please go to gofundme.com/help-a-front-line- nurse. i will be donating as well. and we'll put it on our facebook and instagram pages as well. a lot more ahead tonight including new details about the food supply chain. what some major meat-processing plants are now saying about reopening. as homes become schools.
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strong public schools make a better california for all of us. the pandemic is impacting the food supply chain, as we've been reporting. wendy's said today it expects a beef shortage that's impacting about a thousand of its restaurants for the foreseeable future. tyson says it will open its pork processing plant in waterloo,
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iowa, tomorrow. still, actions like that may come too late for hog farmers who have not been able to send their pigs to market and now face extremely difficult decisions. our gary tuchman paid a visit to one of those family farms in minnesota. >> reporter: alex haim is a sixth generation farmer. he, his wife, and his father are proud hog farmers, who are getting ready for a traumatizing experience. >> i never imagined having to do this. >> reporter: what they are going to do is a result of a closing of american pork plants. there is no place for these pigs to go. each of these hogs should have been out of here two to three weeks ago, sent to market. but it looks like they never will, so the decision has been made to humanely euthanize most if not all of them, and that will happen as early as this week. all of this minnesota's family fully grown pigs go to market at one particular pork plant in
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south dakota. but the smithfield facility was shut down in the middle of april, with more than 800 employee covid cases linked to it. with so many plants closed and such a backlog of pigs, some of which weigh up to 340 pounds, the haim family is desperate. before covid-19, they would typically send off about 700 hogs every week. they say they now have about 3,500 ready to go, and nowhere to send them. and these are the family's baby pigs. about 3,000 of them, in an overcrowded nursery barn that usually has around 2,400. the fully grown pigs being euthanized by gunshot will leave room for these little ones as they get bigger, but the babies could face the same fate in a few months. doc haim is the patriarch of the family. >> we put down sick pigs, because you feel sorry for them. but to have a healthy pig, and
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to take it and shoot it, it's unreal. >> reporter: the haims and many other hog farmers say they are desperate for federal assistance. >> if we don't get help, i truly think that we are looking at bankruptcy. that this is going to be the end of our family farm. >> reporter: even if every shutdown pork plant opened quickly with all the employees coming back to work, which is not about to happen, including in south dakota, where smithfield reopened monday with less than one-tenth of its original employees, many farmers say there are just way too many hogs backed up in the pipeline. >> and there's just a lot of people that will not survive this. >> reporter: does this family see any realistic chance in avoiding financial ruin? >> no. but i'm surviving solely on hope. >> and gary's in minnesota for us. so gary, does washington have plans to help hog farmers? >> well, anderson, the usda has announced a partial bailout, a plan for farmers including pig farmers. but the operative word is
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partial. according to the national pork producer's council, which represents pork producers throughout the united states, this is just a fraction of the amount of money that pig farmers need. they figure that pig farmers will lose $5 billion this year, that's possible, and there's a desperate need for more money from washington. absolutely necessary, they say. it's also important to point this out. the trade wars that were instituted my the trump administration two years ago in april 2018, china dramatically raised tariffs for pork. and that devastated many pig farmers here in the united states. many of them, like the family in our story, still suffer from that as they go into this crisis with covid. one more thing i want to mention to you, anderson. we all know that pigs get slaughtered when they go to the plant. but the people who raise the pigs, the pig farmers, they don't kill pigs, they raise the pigs. that's why it's so devastating for this family, and the 5-year-old boy you saw in this story, they don't have the heart to tell him what's happening to their pigs. anderson?
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>> gary tuchman, thanks very much. we recorded that interview with gary earlier. up next, a special moment for this dad. a volunteer nurse waiting to see his family after helping out in a new york city hospital. you ever wish you weren't a motaur? sure. sometimes i wish i had legs like you. yeah, like a regular person. no. still half bike/half man, just the opposite. oh, so the legs on the bottom and motorcycle on the top? yeah. yeah, i could see that. for those who were born to ride, there's progressive.
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as we mentioned before, today is national nurse's day and i wanted to share something
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with you and our viewers. last night, we highlighted some of the work of a small number of the nurses that are helping to save so many lives. jim mullen was one of them. he left his home in texas in april in order to volunteer in new york city and he hadn't seen his wife, gena, or his 2 and a half-year-old daughter, gracie, for five weeks. it's the longest they've been apart. after working 12-hour overnight shifts, jim is now back in texas. he's still in quarantine. this is gracie just last night. it was taco tuesday at their house. he's waiting out quarantine at a hotel a few miles away from his home. after we aired this segment, we were sent this video of gracie seeing her dad on television. >> daddy! oh! >> oh. i love her excitement. jim will be reunited with gracie and gena on saturday a