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coronavirus now at 75,000 up more than 2,000 from this time yesterday. and it is more than what the white house had projected we'd have by august 4th, which, of course, is more than three months from now. the number of confirmed cases tonight, 1.2 million. these stunning numbers come as the trump administration is sidelining its public health experts. the administration's decision to bury the cdc's new draft guidelines for how states and businesses can safely reopen. the agency was told that some of the suggestions were too strict, but frankly most of them are fair. if you read through it, you will see, as one examples, schools they say you should cancel field trips and encourage students to eat in the classroom instead of the cafeteria. that's too strict? seems like it's common sense. trump's personal valet has tested positive for the virus.

a source telling us the president was upset now there's a scramble to test everyone who came into contact with the valet, including the president. moments ago, trump claimed valet's wear masks even as an official tells cnn, very few wear masks inside the white house, including valets, so why reticents in wearing masks in the work place? the president sets the tone. this video this week, visiting a plant that makes masks, you see the president not wearing one. he doesn't want to wear one. even as the people who actually work in the plant, look at them, every one of them masked, social distanced but it's not the example he set. there he is. >> i think wearing a face mask as i greet presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens, i don't know, somehow i don't see it for myself.

>> why doesn't he see it for himself? maybe because we've learn it had president is afraid if he is seen wearing a mask, it might contradi contradict his public message that the virus is waning. the president is obviously in denial on that. caitlyn collins is live near the white house. what more are you learning about why the white house rejected the cdc guidelines as we've read through, many are common sense? >> reporter: a cdc official said it was the white house task force that asked for the guidelines. so they had the public health experts compile them, 17 pages worth, but then they were told they were overly proprietorshes. and the guidance for a rural area wouldn't work in places like new york city. the question is going to be are they going to use changes if they do make revisions to that and how would that work going forward? these are more detailed on how

to open restaurants and schools than the guidelines we got from the white house were. >> the valet story, you broke the story today, what more are you learning tonight? >> reporter: the question is what does it change inside the west wing? the president announced they're going to be tested daily instead of weekly, because the valets not well known to the public are close to the president. they work often with him and close to the president and the first family and proximity wise. so, of course, it's substantial the fact that someone this close to the president has tested positive given the fact how he cites he's tested and tested negative and now someone on white house grounds, works close to the president, in the west wing, in the oval office that we are told was showing symptoms yesterday and that's what made this person undergo testing. so the question, does that change anything going forward? while the president said he's going to be tested daily, he didn't get into whether or not

they're going to do a deep clean of the west wing or whether he himself is going to quarantine for 14 days as the public health experts recommended. this is the closest person to the president, who interacts with him frequently that has tested positive for coronavirus. >> thank you very much. it is very significant and obviously also that the president now says he'll be tested daily, it had been weekly before. out front now, dr. howard ko. a professor at harvard school of health. was it a mistake for the white house to reject the guidelines from the cdc? 17 pages, pretty detailed, a lot of common sense. >> thank you, erin. as a physician and former secretary for health, i'm concerned by these developments. at this moment everybody in the united states wants the same thing. we want society to reopen, but we want society to reopen in a

safe, secure and healthy way. these guidelines are very detailed and everybody wants them. businesses, schools, houses of worship. we had broad principles put forward by the white house task force and that's important, everyone is looking for the detailed guidance that will help us go forward. this is a disturbing development. this is a time where everybody is looking for the best recommendations based on science and data and facts. >> and doctor, as we were pointing out, the task force asked for the guidelines, it wasn't that they were just submitted. they asked for them, they received them and now an administration officials tells cnn one of the concerns about the guidelines is they are over per scriptive, saying guidance in rural tennessee shouldn't be the same as for urban new york city. do they have a point on that or not? >> if you read the draft guidance, just about every page of the 17 pages says, please

consult with your local and state authorities before implementing any recommendations. so these are recommendations and guidance to be considered and discussed wherever you are and implemented wherever you are. and so, there is a lot of emphasis on collaboration and coordination and tailoring them to where you are in the united states. and businesses need this guidance, they want the guidance, and schools do too. and businesses cannot thrive and move forward unless they have these guidance to help them move forward. >> you know what, to your point, i want to say, at the top of each of these categories, child care being one of them, first page, sentence, all decisions about following these should be made locally. every page says that. the point was to not have a one size fits all. so that excuse does not seem to add up.

according to that administration official they asked for the document to be sent back to the cdc for revisions. then they weren't returned. they didn't know exactly why this ended up getting shelved at the cdc, whether this was the cdc not. we do know the cdc has had major missteps in responding to the pandemic, the testing rollout, contaminated kits caused a huge issue with testing from the beginning here. do you have concerns about trusting the cdc? >> this saddens me because i had the honor of working with the cdc through my career as a physician and public health professional. and this is a highly trusted agency. in fact, in time of crisis, all americans turn to the cdc for guidance and recommendation about how to move forward. we need the cdc in their pre-eminent position to step up and have their expert advice be listened to by the administration. we can only have businesses reopen and schools reopen and

society reopen if the cdc plays its proper role. >> doctor, thank you very much, i appreciate your time. >> thank you very much. dr. sanjay gupta is out front now. look, the confusion over these guidelines and obviously the white house's refusal to accept them comes as some states are going full steam ahead. this is an amazing thing. at the university of maryland, researchers did an analysis of smart phone data. one week after georgia started opening restaurants, hair salons and other businesses, an additional 62,444 visitors started arriving each day, most from other states where businesses were closed so they were taking advantage of that, so this influx of people you didn't know where they were coming, they shouldn't have wanted. is there any guidelines that can prevent this? >> a national guideline. that is the situation. i live in this state, they opened up, we don't have adequate testing here.

people came from other states, i guess understandably because restaurants and other things are open in georgia. many of those people haven't been tested either probably. as we know, you can carry the virus in your body and not have any symptoms. that's why, for something like this, i know the idea of federalism is very important but when you have a contagious virus, something that doesn't respect boundaries or state lines, i'm not sure it applies. we're all in this together and this is another good example of that. >> the states that say they wouldn't have a problem, maybe they wouldn't except when you have a rush of people coming into your state. these are the unforeseen consequences, perhaps. people don't always realize. on the issue of president trump's valet. caitlyn was explaining how important that role is and how close that person is to the president, responsible to his food and all sorts of things. now the president said he's going to be tested daily,

previously it was once a week. this does raise the issue of wow, it was only once a week, that is incredible we're going to once a day, it was once a week. >> yeah, i don't know what the right latency period is, at the time you get exposed to the virus, you're not going to test positive right away. what is the likely interval period. at five days we know people develop symptoms but can spread the virus before they develop symptoms, two or three days, we don't know. but if you have somebody that's that close a contact, first of all they should be wearing masks because you don't want to spread the virus if you're in close contact with somebody, that's the guidance you hear from every public health official and testing is beside the point. the goal is to not get the virus in the first place. testing is important, don't get me wrong, but the goal is to not get the virus in the first place. >> the valet, obviously, had

been sick for a period of some tom, he was symptomatic, that's why they tested him. you didn't just catch it as asymptomatical asymptomatically, he was symptomatic. so i don't know if they're getting tested as regularly as they say or not. i know the test they're using appears to have a 15% false negative rate. is it possible he was getting tested and it didn't get picked up? we just don't know? >> that's possible. the 15% false negative is significant. that's not an adequate test to give people the confidence they're not carrying the virus or people aren't them weren't carrying the virus. but everyone should be wearing a mask and if he was symptomatic he shouldn't have been working at the white house. but everyone should be wearing a mask. sanjay will be back at the top of the hour for a global town hall on coronavirus. how the first case of

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doing. we're going through hell but what we're doing is working so we'll keep going. >> reporter: going slow on reopening even though new york's case counts are going down, case counts continue to climb in 19 states still they're among the 44 to reopen this weekend. in texas, cases climbing but hair cuts are a go tomorrow morning. the state's supreme court ordered the release of a salon ordered jailed for operating under lockdown. in oregon the blazer's practice facility will open tomorrow, that's okay, up to four players can train solo at any one time as long as local restrictions are followed and there are different detailed directions in different places. >> restaurants outside only. you're 90% more likely to get infected inside than outside. >> reporter: more than 33

million americans have now lost their jobs during the pandemic, depression-era numbers. others have worked on and paid a price. a meat packing worker in colorado couldn't afford to quit now she's infected and fighting for her life. three of the country's biggest pork processing plants partially reopening today after outbreaks, union and companies working on how to keep workers safe. >> i don't think the economy kicks into any kind of gear until we get a vaccine or some kind of therapy. and even then it'll take years to get jobs back. >> the fda did approve another potential vaccine to phase 2 of testing. you can only rush so much, though. it needs to be safe. it needs to work. >> i think we're talking about getting through the end of the year and into early next year before we would have a definitive answer. >> reporter: now after some

initial humming and hawing, los angeles is on board with the governor's reopening timetable. so some stores will open tomorrow, curb side pickup only. it's going to get busier. this could be the one, only last time i'm ever allowed to park on hollywood boulevard. we heard from san francisco, they say they'll need more time, could be ten days or so, erin, before they begin to open the door just a little. back to you. >> thank you, nick. out front, dr. jonathan reiner, who advised the medical team under george h.w. bush. today we found out that california said the first case of community transmission -- of known community transmission was in a nail salon. nail salons are opening now in many places. how big of a risk is this? >> think about it, in a nail salon, you're literally sitting arm's length away from somebody.

it's no surprise that it would be easy to contract the virus. now imagine you open nail salons, we're going to rely on the masks, that's the entire -- that's our entire plan, the mask that the manicurist is wearing and hopefully the client is also wearing. i doubt either of them are wearing pressure tested and fitted n-95 masks. so i think that's the perfect environment to spread the virus. you're sitting close enough to touch the other person. so it seems like a high risk environment. >> right. and, of course, as we've all pointed out, some of the more effective non-n-95 mask only 60% effective. we can all realize those are big risks. >> when we tell people to wear a mask, we don't say then you can get as close as you want. we say, and also keep at least

6 feet of distance. so it's a tough environment to make safe. >> so you know, let me ask you about the hydroxychloroquine. there was a big study that came out, people who took it didn't do any better than people who didn't. obviously the president repeatedly touted this as a game changer, the word he used. you had been raising serious doubts all along. but given the size of the survey, does that pretty much put that drug aside? >> well, it's just yet another study that shows no evidence of benefit. i will say that even though this is a big study and comes out of a great place, out of columbia university. it's still not a randomized clinical trial, which is the data we need to understand once and for all whether the drug works or whether it doesn't. but in this large, over 1,300

patient observational study in which patients did or didn't receive the drug there did not appear to be a benefit in favor of treating these fairly sick people withhydroxychloroquine. >> doctor, thank you. >> sure. next a top investor warning it'll take 12 years to return to prepandemic levels. he pleaded guilty twice, yet the justice department is now dropping its criminal case against michael flynn. why? and your medicine, abbvie may be able to help. myabbvie assist has been providing free abbvie medicines to qualifying patients for nearly 30 years. and in today's difficult times, making sure patients have access to our medicines matters more than ever. find out if you're eligible at abbvie.com/myabbvieassist

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new tonight, ten to 12 years, that is how long the chief investment officer for j.p. morgan says it could take for u.s. employment to return to pre-pandemic levels, 10 to 12 years this as we are hours away from the aprils job reports. and it almost certainly will be the worst in our lifetime. now the former director of economic council gary cohen, you hear this from j.p. morgan, how long do you think it will take for u.s. employment numbers to

recover? >> so, erin, thanks for having me. the answer is, no one knows. remember, we went into this crisis at all-time record low unemployment rates in the united states. so to return back to a 3.5% unemployment rate is a very low number, well below the historic average for the united states. that said, i'm fairly optimistic that we are going to recover. we are going to put people back to work. and we're going to do it rather quickly in the united states. i would not underestimate the strength and the recovery of this economy. it may look different than the economy we had going in to the crisis, by that i mean we may have a different mix of jobs, but we will be very clever and very creative at creating new jobs and new opportunities in our economy. i think we're going to get back into the manufacturing business. we've seen the risk of having to import medical supplies and import some of the drugs that

we're needing to fight the coronavirus. those need to be manufactured here in the united states. so those manufacturing facilities are going to have to start hiring people. we may lose some people in the travel and entertainment business but we'll replace them with other opportunities. >> all right. so, you know, you're more optimistic. the president is extremely optimistic. let me just play for you what he said earlier today. this is a video he put out on twitter. >> it's going to come back very, very strong. you know, we built the greatest economy anywhere in the world, nobody even close. i did it once, we're going to do it again and it's going to be just as strong by the time we have it done. and it's going to be a lot understand. anybody would we're going to have an incredible next year. obviously you make the point, just as strong, getting back to those levels of unemployment is not reasonable at this point. when he says "an incredible next year," do you think that's fair, the next 12 months are going to

be incredible? >> i think it's going to take longer than 12 months to evolve to where we're comfortable. unless something miraculously happens in the medical field and we get a vaccine or we get a far substantial cure for the virus a so we're not scared and we get rid of social distancing, it's going to take sometime. i can see symptome parts coming back, but there's other parts of the economies, ballparks, arenas, concerts, it's going to be a long evolution for people to get comfortable to go to a football stadium with 100,000 people. >> so to that point, that this is going to take time, congress has now approved $3 trillion in emergency spending for coronavirus. democrats want another round and they want to help, you know, state and local governments,

many of which would go bankrupt without that. last night the minority leader, chuck schumer told me the plan needs to be big and bold. do you agree we need to go bigger and bolder, when you already have a $3 trillion price tag out there? >> we have gone big and bold. and what we need to do now is we need to execute on the big and bold plan that congress has already enacted. i give congress enormous credit for thinking big and thinking bold, and acting quickly on appropriating the money. the problem is that money has not gotten into the economy yet. we're still giving out ppp loans. main street lending program has not started yet. the large campaigns that are able to go to the federal reserve and get loans, none of them have gone to the federal reserve yet to get loans. some have chosen to go different directions and get loans in the capital markets because they come with less strings attached.

but many companies would go to the federal reserve and get loans but they're not comfortable that system is up and working. so we have to wait that the money that's been appropriated and congress did a good job getting out ahow it works. >> you've heard the stories of the challenges people faced with that. you did a round, have another round. and now the trump administration says more than half the current $300 billion round 2 has been distributed. marco rubio says congress may have to add more money to the ppp. when you look at that, it's been a few hundred billion dollars in a couple weeks, then a few hundred billion dollars in a few weeks, that's not a sustainable thing. do we know who's getting the loans, who isn't, where the money is going? do we know what's going on with

all this money? >> i think we all have concerns with the program and how it's being executed. again, we give congress enormous credit for getting out there quickly. but now, as time has evolved and we're in program two of the ppp and we may be in program three, we need a lot more clarity on who's getting the loans, what the loans can be used for, and are those businesses able to actually hire back people? you had another guest on earlier today, the governor of rhode island, she talked about an issue that i'm talking about a lot, some of these companies are getting back ppp money, trying to hire back employees and they can't get them to come back because the unemployment benefits they're getting are very high, number one, and number two, you know, they also have other issues. they have to stay home and take care of their kids, there's no school in session right now, no child care available. so they're stuck at home having to take care of their kids, even if they want to go back to work.

>> states across the country are beginning to reopen. obviously, you know, none of them have met the guidelines that the white house put out. you'll have 44 states partially reopened by may 10th. are you worried at all if any of these states have a second spike -- i don't know if you heard about georgia, they reopened and had almost 70,000 people come in days from neighboring states to come to georgia. these are unforeseen consequences that might happen. are you worried about what a second spike would do if you have to close down again? is that a greater risk than reopening? >> there's risks in everything we do here. and i think we need to understand that. we also need to understand that prior to this health care crisis, we were not listening in a zero risk environment. we had risks every day. they were different risks and i could go through them, but every one of us understand the risks we had in our everyday lives. we assumed those risks. we cannot wait till we get to a

risk-free environment, because that will never happen to get to a risk-free environment to open up different parts of the economy. that said, we need to be careful, we need to move slowly. we need to pick and choose what businesses open and we need to add to that gradually, to see what the intended consequences are, but as you said, what are the unintended consequences. no, we don't want people flocking from one city or state to another city or state because they can get different services. so you have to have some relationship between geographic cal areas on what you're opening so people don't move around. the worst thing that could happen is infected people in one area contained move around freely and spread the disease. >> absolutely. to places you wouldn't have thought would have a problem. thank you, gary. good to talk to you. >> erin, thanks for having me. utah tracking residents through their cell phones,

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tonight, yutah about to do what few states have done, tracking people's movement, the state launching a voluntary app to track data about who a sick person spoke to. you have to be willing to let the government access your personal information. out front is the state's epidemiologist leading the team responsible for the app. we know contract tracing is important. technology would eni believe you to do it a lot more quickly. how does this work? >> from the beginning we have been prioritizing contact tracing as a key element to stopping the pandemic recognizing we can get overwhelmed in public health with the number of cases.

this app will help with that. people can voluntarily download it and allow the app to track them by gps or blue tooth. if they test positive, they can let public health and their case investor look at their location data so when we're doing the contact tracing we can do it as a tool to jog the memory of a case and be able to identify their close contacts and locations. >> so when a person using the app tests positive for coronavirus, your health department gets that data immediately and calls other people in the app who came in contact with the sick person, right, tell me if i'm wrong, and then what happens? >> so the app allows the individual to assess their symptoms and then connects them with testing. the test results go through the app, the results come to the health department and we give the individual a call. if they have the app, that individual can allow us to see their locations. so at that moment the app prompts them to allow public health to see their location

data. then we have a public health portal and that case investigator can use the portal for the last several days and identify people in close contact with them, which is less than 6 feet for over 10 minutes. >> i understand as a epidemiologist this is perhaps more of an enforcement thing but this is what's going to determine whether people buy into it, part of it is privacy but i'm asking logistical. say you and i had an app, we had a conversation, it was ten minutes long, we know each other, you get it. and then all of a sudden i get a call, does anybody force me to do anything? do i have to quarantine myself and not go to my job or separate for my family? what sort of consequences are you recommending that people have who come into contact with infected people? >> so what's great about the app is it's just supplementing our normal human contact tracing process. so we have the human element in there.

if your name comes up as a close contact as someone confirmed positive for covid, our public health investigators would give you a call and ask about your relation to the positive case and determine your ability to be at risk. we would recommend quarantine and if you're symptomatic we recommend testing. >> what do you say to people concerned about the privacy? >> we've taken this very seriously recognizing that privacy and trust is going to be huge in determining the success and usefulness of this app. all the data resides on the app and it's all opt in. the individual opts in for location tracking to give data to the public health department. it is clear from the app every 30 days and it's a rolling 30 days or an individual can do it on their own manually and clear all their data as well. so we've really made this a person-centric opt in process. >> thank you very much. i appreciate your time, angela.

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tonight washington state ground zero of the u.s. outbreak now seeing far fewer cases and far fewer deaths. how did they contain the spread? what is it like there now? sara sidner is out front. >> reporter: this er in suburban seattle was in the first epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak. >> describe what that was like. >> it was chaotic. >> reporter: two months later it's a symbol how to contain the virus. washington state has less than 1,000 covid deaths while densely populated new york has more than 25,000. >> we're down to 10 to 15% of what we were seeing with covid at the peak.

>> reporter: washington state avoided the surge, partly due to its reaction to a discover by dr. francis reed, in february he tested two patients with no connection to infected countries, both came back positive. what did you think? >> it was a moment of recognition realizing that now everything had changed. >> reporter: then the first known covid-19 death in america occurred here. washington governor jay inslee took immediate action. >> i declared an emergency. >> reporter: three days after the emergency declaration, we were here, there was a noticeable emptying of the streets. that's because the tech giants head quartered in washington like amazon and microsoft, urged all their employees who could to stay home before any order. that was not by chance, according to seattle's mayor. >> we include them in our plans in conversations from the beginning. the data is clear. that first phase of having

people telecommute and not come downtown started breaking the back of the virus. >> reporter: the governor then banned gatherings of 250 or more, then ordered schools everything down right away? >> if you're going to lead a parade, you have to make sure someone is behind you. and if you go too fast and the public isn't willing to accept, then you've lost your connection to your community. >> it's a page right out of the cdc's pandemic handbook on communication. finally, the stay-at-home order came. we watched boards go up over businesses and now two months later those boards beautified by artists commissioned to remind the public the city is not down and out, just on a break. the world's most famous coffee shop, a seattle original, is no longer just drive-thru only. the state's largest private employer slowly taking off, but cutting its work force. empty parks now family play grounds again.

construction back in business. washington went from number one in u.s. covid-19 deaths to 18th. still, there's a slow march to reopening here. >> the pace of that will be dictated by the data. it will be based on what we learned every day. this is very important, because as we move away from the blunt instrument of social distancing towards the smart weapon of testing, contact tracing and isolation, we have to have that capability up and running. >> reporter: one thing governor inslee isn't being praised for, the nursing home at the center of the deadly outbreak. went more than a week without any hands-on government help. should you have stepped in and said, we've got to get people until there faster than this? >> this corporation had a responsibility for the medical care of their patients. we couldn't just walk in on day one without some coordination with them to really understand the circumstance. >> reporter: but just like hospitals, it was struggling to get testing and worrying about securing protective equipment. >> we did not have enough p.p.e.

for nurses in many facilities, and still don't. >> reporter: and the governor told us there is simply no way his state can fully reopen without a massive amount of p.p.e., a large ramp up of testing, or a vaccine. and, erin, i just want to give you a quick sense of what's happening here. this is pike place. it is the public market. and you can see that there are a few people here. it has basically been like a silent movie for weeks while we've been here. but when you go inside, you can see people are open, not everyone, but more people are coming to shop here. and that is a sign that people are starting to really want to ramp up and really want to be out. and the economy needs to be restarted like everywhere else. >> all right, sarah, thank you very much. and next, why is the federal government dropping its criminal case against mike many flynn after he pleaded guilty twice? d here, evan! whoo!

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hisamitsu. tonight a stunning reversal. the justice department dropping its criminal case against trump's former national advisor michael flynn. he was charged with lying about his contacts with russia. attorn attorney general bill barr defending the move. >> i wanted to make sure we restore confidence in this system. there is only one standard of justice. >> are you doing the president's bidding? >> i'm doing the law's bidding. >> of course, michael flynn did plead guilty twice. you heard barr's defense. obviously the president who appointed him called flynn today an innocent man and a warrior. how unprecedented is this move by barr's d.o.j.? >> it is unprecedented. look, michael flynn pleaded guilty twice before two separate judges, erin, and not many

defendants get the attorney general to come in, appoint a u.s. attorney to go through the files to look through fbi agent's notes and come up with evidence that the attorney general now says essentially means that the case should never have even been investigated. michael flynn did plead guilty twice. he said he lied. he also worked for the turkish government while he was working as the incoming national security advisor for president trump. so there's a lot here that the attorney general is not saying in dismissing these charges. >> all right. of course, the president said he got rid of flynn because he lied to the vice president. so it was obviously an issue which bothered the president at one time. now in dropping the case the d.o.j. said they discovered new information. it appears flynn's legal team would have already had access to most of that if not all of it? >> they had access to some of this, at least. there are some notes that perhaps they did not have, but keep in mind the mueller team,

the special counsel mueller team did produce some of the information that the defense is now saying showed that the fbi was out to get flynn. they also -- we also had the inspector general, erin, that looked at these very documents as well as john durham, another prosecutor, who is taking a look at the entire russia investigation. so this has been combed over multiple times before today. >> so what does it mean that the prosecutor withdrew from the case right before this went down? >> that's one of the things we're trying to figure out. there are two prosecutors who are on this case. one of them withdrew from the case. the other one did not sign the document. so we don't know why that is. we know brendan van greck, the attorney that did withdraw from the case, he is still employed at the justice department for now. >> evan price, thank you very much. >> thanks. >> and thanks very much to all of you for joining us. cnn's global town hall "coronavirus: facts and fears"

with sanjay gupta and anderson cooper starts right no. now. ♪ ♪ >> welcome. i'm anderson cooper in new york. >> i'm dr. sanjay gupta, and this is the cnn global town hall "coronavirus: facts and fears." tonight's broadcast is seen around the globe, international, cnn espanol, it's our tenth consecutive weekly town hall. >> let me show everyone the chart. when we did our first town hall nine weeks ago there were 12 deaths, 227 cases. tonight there are now 75,543 deaths in the u.s. and close to 1.3 million cases. at least 2,112 deaths just today alone, 2,112 people died today alone. i just want to repeat, that was nine weeks ago, 12 deaths.