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hey everybody. i'm chris cuomo, and welcome to "prime time." the president will now be tested for covid-19 every single day after news that one of his valets has tested positive for the virus. cnn broke the story that he's said to be mad as hell that he's not being protected well enough from the virus. mr. president, you are right. and more importantly, i hope now you know how so many of the rest of us feel.
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they want to be tested too. not every day like you're going to get, but enough to feel safe just like you want. and just like you, it really makes them mad to think that they're not being protected either. we have another reality check for you tonight. breaking news in the case of a young unarmed black man shot and killed while jogging in georgia. the last part is the most important part. the way this case was handled stinks, and the officials who are handling it won't come off. never a good sign. and once again but for a video would there have been any attempt at justice. we have the tape and ahmaud arbery's sister. the pandemic is showing everybody's ability to come together. there are many causes in this country that we must take on the same way. so, what do you say? let's get after it.
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all right another piece of proof in the case that this president wants to reopen faster than facts and experts would allow. a senior cdc official says it was clear that the white house wasn't going to implement their 17-page draft of recommendations for a safe reopening. and trump doesn't have the defense of not getting how risky this is. he -- we know he gets it. why? because cnn broke the story of how he reacted to news that someone near him tested positive for the virus. white house correspondent kaitlan collins was the first to report that part of the story. good for you, good for the audience. what do you know? >> reporter: well, it seems like it's going to be changing at least one aspect of the president's life, and that is that he's going to be now tested daily instead of weekly. it's happening about every six days for the president, the vice president, and their senior staff. but, chris, this person was
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critically close to the president. these valets handle not only the food and beverage service for the president and the first family and travel with them when they're going domestic and abroad but they handle a variety of other tasks. they're definitely in the west wing and of course in the white house residence. so, it's someone that is around the president a lot of the time. that is why it raised a lot of questions in the west wing now they learned someone so close to the president tested positive for coronavirus. we're toast even the president was upset when he found out about it. he and the vice president have tested negative since that story broke. >> thank god. we need him healthy. we need he and the whole team at their best. my understanding is his anger wasn't so much at the valet but we've got to make sure these people are tested, make sure we know who's around me, otherwise i'm vulnerable.
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is that right? >> that's the concern those around the president have. they don't want the president getting sick. that's why they started testing people in the white house several weeks ago. it shows you how important testing is. this person was exhibiting symptoms on white house grounds. they were tested and now they're going to go through and see who this person interacts with, the other valets, senior staffers, the president himself. the president said they had very little contact. it shows you how important that is going to be throughout the country to be able to identify someone who has it and isolate them and figure out who they were around. >> what a shocking irony that exactly what they're asking for in the white house is what they're denying the rest of the country. and they're dealing with it exactly right in the white house. they should test the president as often as they can because you've got to know. current information. a test is only as good as the day it's taken on. and then they're doing tracing. they're looking at everybody around this valet and see how they're doing.
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that's exactly what we need to do in different places of the country that require the same. kaitlan collins. thank you for bringing us the story. appreciate it. all right. new tonight, california's governor gavin newsom says they've identified where their first case of community spread started. a nail salon. a place where workers regularly wear gloves and masks wasn't enough. the government taking a cautious approach waiting to open those salons in later phases. it's different than we're seeing in other states that have already opened up close contact businesses like nail salons. and now hotspots are emerging. nearly every state will have loosened restrictions in some way by the weekend. but remember none has met the cdc guidelines to reopen. and most of those states have case loads that are growing. the obvious question is what will our future hold?
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cnn's nick watt is watching from coast to coast. >> reporter: in three forks, montana this morning, kids walk back into school. >> we have 6 foot distant marks on the playground so they can play games at recess and stay six feet away from each other. >> montana hasn't suffered as much as most. meanwhile with lady liberty looking on, bodies now being stored frozen in trucks in new york city, our epicenter, waiting for overwhelmed funeral directors to catch up. >> if you're going through hell, keep going. and that's what we're doing. we're going through hell. but what we're doing is working, so we're going to keep going. >> going slow on reopening even though new york's new case counts are falling. daily new case counts continue to climb in 19 states. still every one of them among the 44 that will begin to reopen by this weekend. in texas, cases climbing but
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haircuts and man cures are a go as of tomorrow morning. the state supreme court just ordered the release of a salon owner jailed for operating under lockdown. in oregon the trailblazers practice facility open tomorrow. that's okay say the nba. up to four players can train solo at any one time as long as restrictions are followed. and there are now different detailed directions in different places. >> restaurants outside only. you're 90% more likely to get infected inside than outside. >> more than 33 million americans have now lost their jobs during the pandemic. depression era numbers. others have worked on and paid a price. teen a a meat packing worker couldn't afford to quit. now she's fighting for her life.
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outbreaks in union, management working on how to keep workers safe. >> i don't think the economy kicks into any kind of gear until we get a vaccine or some kind of therapy that everyone feels comfortable about. even then it's going to take several years to get those jobs back. >> the fda did just approve another potential vaccine moving into phase two testing. more than 100 now in various stages of development. but you can only rush so much. needs to be safe. needs to work. >> i do really think we're talking about getting through the end of the year and into early next year before we would have a definitive answer. >> nick watt, cnn, los angeles. now, look, that just gives you the general sense of what should be obvious now. for you and me, trump says testing, i think it's overrated. but for him, one case in his orbit and he gets tested every day. you see what's going on here now? let's bring in a former top
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areas with any kind of case density. he knows testing is being looked to as the main metric of truth for the contagion, so his natural play is someone who wants to deny the reality of the virus' reach is to poo poo testing, and that's exactly what he keeps doing. >> do we have the ultimate testing? we have the best tests in the world and we gave more than anybody else. i always said testing is somewhat overrated because what happens after somebody takes a test? >> overrated? the guy has one case near him and now he's going to get tested every day, okay? is that testing overrate snd and you know what? the president's situation is being handled the best way. he should be tested. first of all, we only have one of them. i'm sorry, but we've got to play to priorities here. just look at the rule that's being followed. test when you can so you know what's going on. and trace the contacts of the
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person who has it. that's what they're doing in the white house. why can't that be the rule for the rest of us? why can't we get protection and truth in testing? i thought the carnage was supposed to end with this administration? andy slavic is the former acting administrator for the centers for medicare and medicaid. it's good to have you on the show. boy, talk about irony. the president says testing's overrated. not for him. gets tested every day. tracing. some guys like it, some guys don't. there's a case here him, they're tracing the hell out of this guy. they're finding every potential contact he had, and they should. they're doing the right thing, andy. doesn't that kind of blow open the idea of him padding down testing for the rest of the country. >> think about what testing really is, chris. it's about making americans feel safe. it's about allowing americans to go and resume their lives. if they know there's testing and
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they know there's a positive result that the virus could be contained because of the tracing, people will feel comfortable resuming their lives in a safe way, not an unsafe way. so, what he's expected of us, he's expecting us to go back about our lives without having that level of safety. and of course that puts us in a position where we have neither the decrease in the death toll that we need or an economy that actually works because we have -- we're just sort of trapped in this state. and i think it's because he's not willing to do the hard work and commit to the hard work to get the americans to test the need. >> so, the hard question is is it realistic to have the testing that you need anywhere? or are people like me creating a false standard for protection that will never be reached and therefore i am undermining the reality that people are going to have to accept a certain amount of risk and get back out there? >> well, you know, you have this
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expression of american. and you know, how many of us like to think of our country. now just look around the world, chris. look at germany. they're starting their economy back up. why? because they've been able to test. look at the czech republic. they are opening their economy because they've got everyone wearing masks. look at greece opening their economy up because they've been disciplined, new zealand because they actually put in place a system to track -- a color code system to track how exposure going. i can go on and on. vietnam testing everybody. so, it is not impossible. we need a little patience and we need to do the real work. you can't quit in the middle. you can't announce a program to test people like we did three weeks ago and then three weeks later when it's not done just give up. >> now, there's a distinguishing characteristic with every one of those case studies that you just gave every country. t and the president is right, we have tested in this country more people than everywhere else.
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we also have more people. the distinguishing factor i want you to speak to is here it's being left to what would be seen as the provincial leaders, the governors. all those other countries it is being run out of the central government. what is the difference? >> well, the difference is that angela merkel, for example, who is a scientist starts every meeting and every conversation she has with the country by talking about their health, by ta talking about her commitment, talking about how if any one person in the country is affected, the entire country is affected. she has held herself accountable for making sure the public stays healthy. we don't need to test every single american. we need to test everybody with a symptom. we need to be able to test people who want to be tested. we need to be able to test a fair share of people who are healthy to see where the virus is spreading.
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our goal in the short term isn't that we're going to end covid-19. our goal is we could contain it to very small amounts. that's work we can do. deborah birx put forward that plan. we just have to do it. >> right. what we're struggling with is need, 33 million people now out of work. we're killing ourselves with the cure. and we won't be able to bring these companies back. we're going to find a vaccine. we're going to find a cure. we're going to get it sometime new year, something like that. there will be a big change for us that will make covid less dangerous. but the damage to the economy could be irreversible for years. that's why we need to balance the scales even if there's a little bit more risk because we'll get over the virus sooner than we get over the economic impact. your take on that. >> it's a tough equation. i can't argue with that. i think it's a -- look. everybody in a position of making decisions here wants to do the right thing. everybody in a position of power here wants to make sure we lose
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as few lives as possible and open up the economy. but we're not choosing today, chris, between opening up the economy and peoples' lives because who is going to start spending money, buying boats, getting on airplanes, investing in capital, signing leases while we have 3,000 people a day dying. nobody. nobody is. but if we can contain the problem so that we know the vast majority of americans feel safe, they will start spending money and the economy will come back. with all respect to barbershops and haircutting places and tattoos, you can't build an economy around that. that's a third world economy. this is not about opening up the economy as much as it is about opening the socialization, about responding to the political pressure of people saying this is hard. and it is hard. there's no question it's hard. but we can't pretend that the steps we're taking are going to make it easier. it's not. they're going to make it harder. >> i just don't understand why we're ignoring the one thing
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that will give people confidence. if you just do the testing, it's the closest thing to the truth they'll get. this is a ball si country. people take risks all the time in this country. you've just got to be straight with them or they get locked up. that's where we see the country now, 60%, 70% of people saying i'm not going to go out. the places reopening, we're seeing trickling out instead of flowing out as we expected. andy, thank you very much. we're covering all sides of this. we know the need. cover it all the time because it matters. i don't know how long it's going to take to bring people back. we're covering the vaccine part too. a potential vaccine has just moved one step closer toward oprooufl. i'm not going to jump on that as it's right around the corner. the company has never brought a vaccine to market before. they've never gotten vaccine cleared by the fda. let's take a look at it. let's take a look at the vaccine. we got a former fda commissioner
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just today the fda announced it is allowing the makers of a new potential coronavirus vaccine to move to the next phase of trials. now, there are usually three phas phases, okay, the process can take years. critics worry that the fda is rushing. dr. mark mcclellan is a former fda commissioner. good to have you. >> good to be with you, chris. >> what's your take on them giving a boost to this vaccine? >> i think it's another step forward in the development of vaccines, chris. as you said before, this is a new kind of vaccine. we haven't seen it used in people before. so, there are still some important steps in testing ahead that will take time. this round of tests is about figuring out the right dose and if there are any major side
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effects as well. after that, it's going to have to go into larger scale testing. but this is going to be done in a matter of a few months, and that's a really unprecedented time frame. >> so, tony fauci says look we're not going to rush the phases of the testing, we're going to rush the manufacturing. we're going to take a gamble. i said how can you take a gamble, you don't know anything about this virus. every time i say something about my symptoms, you go we haven't heard that. he said vaccine is very different science than understanding treatment. is that true, and what does that mean? >> when he talks about taking a gamble, we're not taking a gamble on safety. we're taking a gamble on manufacturing this vaccine before we know if they're safe and effective. we need lots of vaccines, chris.
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this is a treatment we give to healthy people to prevent people from getting sick in the first place. normally that manufacturing of millions or billions of doses to protect people around the world would take a really long time. so we're doing it the same time as the testing is going on. if the testing doesn't pan out, we have to throw away the vaccine. >> one of the weird things here about how we got to this point is when the chinese put out the -- what do you guys call it, the sequence for the virus? >> yes. >> fauci put it right into vaccine mode. >> that's right. >> so, i guess they've been working on this over 60 days. it's interesting that while it seemed to some of us we were asleep on this and they were taking it too lightly. the first chance fauci had, he went into full mode of trying to create a vaccine, an interesting mixed message there. now wleek at the company involved. they've never done this before.
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does that matter? >> it means that people are going to be extra care to feel make sure the vaccine is safe, it doesn't have side effects. and we're not sure because it's a new vaccine just how much of an immune response, how much antibodies to the virus it will actually generate. that's why there are going to be a couple more phases of testing. it's going to take some months. the advantage of this kind of vaccine is because it's based on the sequence of the virus, it is able to be manufactured very quickly. basically you're injecting rna which tells your own body, the human body, to produce a piece of the virus. and then you become immune based on your reaction to the piece of the virus in your own body. so, it's a much faster approach than the traditional vaccines that are based on growing and injecting a harmless virus that carries a piece of covid-19. that takes longer.
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that's why this is in human testing first buchlt we're going to have to be extra careful about the safety and the effectiveness. >> so, i paid to get antibody testing done because i was totally levelled by this virus and it freaked me out on a psychological level where i needed to know. i didn't believe i had the antibodies. i thought this thing had beaten me and it was going to come back. i had all these crazy ideas in hi head. i know not only do sri the long term antibody, nn innnnnnn but testing has not rolled out the way we thought. is there blame in that and is it at risk at the fda. >> fda gets criticized. it got criticized for letting on a lot of the new antibody tests.
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it sounds like from your symptoms and what you went through, i'm pretty sure you are immune for now. many of the tests on the market have not given accurate results. fda took steps over this past week to tighten that up backed by new research and new testing that's being done with support from the nih so that the goal is to get more confidence in the antibody tests that are on the market. we're not there yet though and i think people need to be careful about the antibody tests throughout and the claims they're making. >> a lot of people aric approximatiare picking them up off line. they're really quick. you can do them at home. governor abbott got a lot of traction saying birx likes my plan. he doesn't have it in place yet and yet he is reopening. it seems so obviously cart before the horse. what is your take as someone who knows the plan well in the
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zbhofr government? >> chris, i've written several reports about what we think is the best way to open back up. and our work at duke really strongly suggests that we need to get the testing in place first. ideally, the increased testing capacity that texas is trying to build right now would be there to wrap around this gradual reopening so we can more quickly detect any outbreaks. so, do hope texas continues to go slow, and i really hope they can ramp up the testing kwuklqu. they're working hard on that right now. >> mark mcclellan. thank you very much. >> good to be with you. >> always. now look, mcclellan is a genius. you don't have to be one. you can be like me. every time i talk about somebody who's going to come by our house, who's going to drop something off, how are the girls, are you you? why are they asking those questions?
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they're nervous. that's what's holding us back. people need to have confidence that it's okay. otherwise you're not going to have the consumer drive. that's why i don't get why people are sleeping on the basic element of people getting us there. it's reopening our minds and our incentive to go out. maj major developments tonight in a killing that's just getting national attention months later. and if it weren't for the leaked video, this case could be closed. arrests just announced, big details, why it took so long, what the family struggle has been about, and how we were a video away from silence.
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video, horrifying the country. rightly so. tonight the georgia bureau of investigation announced the aest are of the father and son who shot and killed ahmaud arbery, 25 years old, jogger. they are now facing murder charges. the suspects are white. the jogger, black. until now, there hasn't been a lot of action. and by the way, that's generous. there hasn't been any action outwardly about this investigation for months. this happened at the end of february. and the suggestion has been we're going to take it to a grand jury like that's the beginning of the process. no. probable cause as seen by the police for an arrest is the beginning of a process, not a grand jury. what changed it? this video. now, this is graphic footage, but if you want the truth, this is what will be the basis of the truth in this situation. show the video.
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[ sound of gunfire ] now, what do you see in that video? what does it mean? i'm not going to keep showing it to you over and over again. we're going to have time to process this case. martin savidge has been following this story in glen county, georgia. martin, thank you for being with us. tonight. let's start with what happened tonight. the arrest. what is the explanation for why now? >> he already said it. it's clear it's the video that was the real push that made this all happened. as you pointed out this case has had two essential speeds. one of them is stagnant which it was much of the time and then lightning. the video was released tuesday
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morning. immediately after that horrific video came out, several hours later, tom durden, the district attorney in the case came out with that message and said i'm going to now present it to a grand jury. it was taken as a positive step, but of course there are no grand juries being seated right now. then later that day you had governor brian kemp of georgia saying georgians deserve answers on this. and he said that the state law enforcement agency would be at the ready to help if they wanted it. less than an hour later, the d.a. said yes we would accept the help of the gbi. by wednesday morning you've got gbi agents on the ground in glen county here and then 24 hours after that got two people under arrest. slow to lightning speed. >> just so people understand, bringing in state investigators is really divesting the locals of power. and the local prosecutor stepped away from this because one of the gentleman involved, the father was a former police
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officer locally. that's not that uncommon. but to have state investigators come in and take over a case is much more uncommon. what do we know about the video tape? so the police didn't have it until this week? >> no. the police have had it since the day of the actual shooting back on february 23rd. >> key fact. >> and the public was aware. they had heard in legal documents that this video existed, but no one had seen it. and no one really understood how graphic and how horrific it would be until it was unveiled on tuesday morning. the question initially was it was posted on a local radio station website. and the real question was where did that video come from? who released it? it turns out there was an attorney that i had heard about by the name of allen tucker. and i contacted him and said are you the one who released the video? well, a short time later he put out a statement, a rather lengthy one saying yes, i am the one that put out that video. he said this, my sole purpose in
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releasing the video was absolute transparency because my community was being ripped apart by these erroneous accusations and assumptions. so, he basically said he for two months had watched this back and forth and there was so little coming out of law enforcement and there was so much being said in that vacuum that he decided he would release the video. >> one more question, who took it, the video, and how did this guy get it? >> yeah, the -- what the breakdown is from the second da in this case, when he recused himself, he identified who the shooter of that video was. he named him as brian william. now, brian william on the police report is listed as a witness that day on the 23rd when the shooting took place. but in the letter of recusal by this district attorney, he is actually listed more as a participant. but he is named as the person who is actually rolling the
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video. we don't know why he decided to roll the video. and i should point out that video is at the end of the confrontation. what you do not see is that there were several attempts, apparently, made by the mcmichaels and by mr. william to stop or somehow interseed or prevent this young man jogging through the neighborhood. >> the most suspicion fact that requires discovery here is arbery was jogging down the middle of the street. the suggestion that he was fleeing the scene of a crime is greatly damaged by the idea he was doing so at a steady gait running down the middle of the street. martin savidge, good reporting on this to get to the source of this video which arguably made the difference in the case and maybe the difference in justice being served. thank you very much, big brother, appreciate it.
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>> thank you. now, for the family, it's always been about getting the truth. they say they said from day one that this wasn't about him fleeing a crime. from day one that this was about him jogging. but february, march, april, now. imagine going through that as a family. how are they feeling? the victim's sister is looking at you right now. let's hear from her what this took from them and what this took of them to get us where we are tonight. next. iasis, ...little things... ...can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight
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let's get some reaction now from his sister jasmine along with the family attorney representing in this case lee merritt. counselor, thank you. jasmine, i am very sorry to meet you under these circumstances, but i am very privileged to give you this platform. and frankly, i apologize. it should have come a lot sooner. how is the family doing with the news today of an arrest in this case? >> well, as of today, we feel a sense of relief. this has been a long wait. it's been a long time. it feels like it's been a long time. so, this day was a turning point in recovering my brother's case and getting justice for him. so, we're leaving happy. >> i want to immediately take a turn away from the incident this is defining his death and not let it define his life. tell us about your brother, 25
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years young, where his head and his heart were, and what he wanted his life to be about. >> well, i would like to start by saying i was always proud to be his older sister. he was easy going, loving, generous, humorous, and over all he showed that day he was brave. that's an overall good person. >> did he have dreams of a specific profession or wanting more schooling or what were his dreams? >> he wanted more schooling. he wanted to be an electrician. that's what he was aspiring to be. >> now, when this first happened and the explanation was he was fleeing the scene of a crime, he fit the description. did any of that make any sense? >> not to me, not at all. because he's known for running in the neighborhood. so, we immediately believe that information received was not true. >> and did the police come to
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your parents and say well, you know, he was leaving the scene of a crime and that's what this was about. did the police say that to your parents? do you know? >> i do know that they said it was a to it? >> i'm not sure. >> counsellor you know why i'm asking the question? >> absolutely. >> what would be the basis? other than what they were told by the two guys who are now arrested for connecting the deceased to any crime? >> that's right. from what jasmines mom told me, the law enforcement told her not only was their son involved in a burglary was it was during the course of the burglary that he was shot to death by the homeowner. >> they didn't provide any basis for that and follow up investigation? is there anything to that suggestion? >> the closest thing to that suggestion is ahmaud running
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down the stroet and stopping at a property that is under construction. that many stop by. >> any record? any kind of rule of behavior to connect him to criminal activity on that day or otherwise? >> no, there's nothing that will connect ahmaud the victim to any criminal behavior. nothing that is going to lead to his death. as you can imagine if he entered the property that wasn't his that was under construction, arguably it's a trespass. nothing that warrants a citizens arrest and certainly not a death sentence. >> to be clear, our understanding we have seen the video. it's clearly the tail end. is there more video? video at the beginning? has it been edited. he was jogging down the middle of the street. two very curious aspects to one line. who runs down the middle of the a street if they're running from a crime?
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who does so at a steady jogging gait when approached by people? >> there's nothing that substantiates the claim ahmaud was involved in anything nefarious. these men were lying in wait. it's important you ask the question are there any other videos. this video was taken by one of the assailants who is under investigation. who we hope will be arrested soon. >> he's been an x factor here. why was the video taken. presented something that would be seen as good for the suspects. i'm sorry this is a hard question. did your family ever say to your brother, don't run in that neighborhood? that's not our neighborhood? i know it has all kinds of overtones to it. but the way he was treated by the men, as not belonging there.
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seems like a suggestion. what do you know about that? >> did your parents say anything to him like be careful. >> no because we live less than five miles. it was his neighborhood. >> how long was he known to run? how far would he go? >> um, maybe five miles. six miles. >> how is your family taking this? >> it's been a numbing state for the family. we haven't been able to grieve. in a constant fight mode we're trying to receive justice for my brother. >> why do you think this happened? >> i believe it was a hate crime. >> how so? >> it was one black guy and three white guys.
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my brother was jogging. >> how does it make you feel. that's what took your brothers life? >> his life wasn't respected. >> what do you want from him? >> justice. we're seeking jus tes. >> what does that look like? >> getting consequences. in a sense. that took us this whole situation was senseless. it could have been avoid. our brother is supposed to be here. his birthday is tomorrow. >> tomorrow is his birthday. >> correct. >> what's the family going to do on his birthday? >> plans to go to my hometown. to do a balloon release. to honor him. >> i'm so sorry that your family is going through this. i'm sorry it's taken so long to get notice and attention and action from police and frankly from us as well.
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that's not a mistake you make twice. we're following what the georgia bureau of investigation does. we are a phone call a way. if there's something the family wants something to know about the case. and lee, to be careful about georgia law. you have stand your ground there. even if you apply the stand your ground defense which gives people a duty to ever flee in a situation. they can stand and defend themselves. even if you have a citizens arrest law. which is common. if you reasonably believe that someone was connected to a crime, are you allowed to do what they did? >> no. where they went off path even with the poor excuses. we don't believe it was arguably self-defense or a citizens arrest. even under their sort of peculiar theory they can't set a trap. they can't stop someone in the middle of the road, hop out with shotguns and create a dangerous
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situation and avail themselves of stand your ground of self-defense. it's not the law designed to work. >> i appreciate it. i know it's not easy to hear. i want to make sure the people watching understand that i'll look at every corner of this. any suggestion there is. that's what justice is. fairness under law. they want to make a case, fine. it's fair to have it rebutted and get your perspective on who your brother was and your family as well. i hope you can find solace tomorrow and remembering how your brother lived and not just what took his life. and we will pay attention to the case. >> thank you. >> thank you for giving me the opportunity to cover it. send my condolences to your parents. counsellor, thank you very much for educates us an facts. >> tough story.
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