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their memoryies be a blessing. thanks very much for watching. i'll have a special edition of "the situation room" tomorrow night, 7:00 p.m. eastern. erin burnett out front starts right now. >> and thank you so much, wolf. next, coronavirus in the west wing. tonight, mike pence's press secretary testing positive. she's also married to a top trump adviser. this, after the president's valet tested positive. plus the race for a vaccine. reach he researchers at oxford say they're weeks away from determining if their vaccine works. is professional baseball really coming back in july? let's go out front. good evening. i'm erin burnett. breaking news, the coronavirus spreading through the white house. vice president pence's press secretary miller who has handled the messaging from the
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coronavirus task force which, pence, of course, heads up. there she is. she attends white house coronavirus task force briefings. there she is, near the podium. this is miller just yesterday, working. you can see her. she's the one not wearing a mask, speaking to reporters as she traveled with the vice president to alexandria, virginia. also married to trump senior adviser and speech writer steven miller. two people with not just high-profile jobs, high-contact jobs. they come into contact with a lot of people in the west wing from the very top on down. and what's even more alarming is that an administration official says katie miller tested negative just yesterday. that's the day we learned one of president trump's valets tested positive. now, officials have told cnn that very few people inside the white house wear masks during the day, including valets. now, though, president trump says that will change. >> are you going to ask for people who serve you food to start wearing masks? >> they've already started. >> the precautions that we're doing -- >> the answer is yes and they've
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already started. >> they started, you know, weeks after the rest of the country, but why weren't more people who were coming into close contact with the president of the united states wearing masks since april 3rd? april 3rd is the date when the cdc recommended all americans wear masks, over a month ago. maybe because the president himself doesn't wear a mask. he greeted world war ii veterans, in their 90s, without a mask. the youngest vet there was 96 years old. why didn't the president wear a mask? here is what he said. >> i was very far away from them. we were very far away. you saw. plus the wind was blowing so hard in such a direction that if the plague ever reached them, might have reached me, too. you didn't worry about me. you only worried about them. >> it was just three days ago at a plant that makes masks, they
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were wearing masks, staying six feet apart. the commander in chief, not wearing a mask. but now that the virus is in the halls of the white house, will the president start following his administration's own guidelines? kaitlan collins is at the white house. how close is katie miller and her husband to the president? >> she's very close to the vice president. you see katie miller or his chief of staff traveling with him whenever he goes somewhere, like when he went to iowa today or when he has these events. katie miller typically attended the task force meetings with the vice president and other aides in the room. she's an incredibly visible presence in the west wing, more so now because of them handling the coronavirus task force for the past several months. if you're familiar with the white house, the vice president's white house is in the building next door to the west wing. you often see the vice president in the west wing, his staffers as well.
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she often came out to these briefings and was, you know, telling people where to stand, what to do. that's what's so notable about the fact that she's tested positive. we should note earlier today that miller had been tested yesterday. she was negative. she did not have any symptoms when she showed up to work but was tested as was the rest of the staff. they're now testing people on a daily basis after we reported people yesterday about the valet and that's when her test came back positive. what's notable about that, it caused six staffers to get off air force two as it sat on the tarmac for an hour. they tested negative t just goes to show, erin, how quickly it can change. >> there was a lot of intrigue about her positive test and what symptoms she did not appear what happened? >> reporter: a lot of that has to to with the fact that she is also married to one of the president's senior policy advisers, steven miller, who is obviously around the president quite frequently. that's been raising questions about what the exposure level is
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like. it was already a lot going on in the west wing yesterday after we reported about the valet testing positive because people know just how closely that person works with the president. to find out today that someone who works closely with the vice president raised a lot of eyebrows inside the west wing. that's why it will be interesting to see what they change going forward, not just having the valets wear masks but whether anyone else will wear masks. the president was in the room with several republican congressmen and was asked why is no one wearing a mask? the white house official wearing a mask was the white house photographer. no one else in the room was wearing one today. >> thank you very much, kaitlan. now to dr. sanjay gupta and dr. reiner, currently at the cardiac cath lab at gw university hospital. six staffers were asked to get off the plane, as kaitlan had reported, go get tested because they had been in contact with
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katie miller. they tested negative we understand. she tested negative yesterday, was tested as part of a regular testing this morning. yesterday she was negative. avid test that the white house uses may have a 15% false negative rate. could she possibly have been carrying this virus for days prior? >> yeah, that is a possibility. these tests are not perfect. these 15% false negatives are significant. it's important to point out that between the time you're supposed and the time you might subsequently test positive can still take a few days even if you're carrying the virus in your body. the test may not pick it up for a period p of time. >> and you could be spreading it, to be clear, during that time? >> you could be spreading it being to be clear. and we know people, before they become symptomatic, that might even be their highest period of contagiousness. you can spread it and spread it more so before you develop symptoms. it's a concern. the goal of testing is to
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obviously try to contain the virus, but the foremost goal is to try to keep people from getting infected in the first place. >> dr. reiner, senior administration official said the president hasn't had direct contact with katie miller but does with steven miller, her husband, his office is in the west wing where the president is. katie miller is often in the west wing. and she hasn't been wearing a mask. the president doesn't wear a mask of the wearing a mask was clearly whatnot most people were doing in that environment. how much risk could the president be at here? >> this is really significant. to borrow a phrase from the military, the enemy is in the water now. right now, we only know of two members of the white house staff, the valet and ms. miller who are positive. i' shocked if they're the last two. many of us, for the last several weeks, have been arguing that visitors to the president and vice president needed to be limited to prevent infectious
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risk to the leaders of our country. and we've also been arguing that everyone who sees the president should be wearing a mask. it's been really hard to understand at these briefings with all the folks lined up behind them. now i would not let anyone visit the president unless they're wearing a mask. these tests that they've been relying on have a significant false negative rate. and now you see the consequences of that. the virus is in the white house now. >> sanjay, you spoke last night with dr. birx and asked her how staffers can protect the president. the reality is that they can't, right, fully? here is what she said. >> i think all of us are very nervous every day. none of us want to be the one to ever bring coronavirus into the white house. most of us don't do anything but go to work and come home. if we go out at all, even to take a walk, i can assure you, we do wear masks in public, and we do very exquisitely social
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distance, but every day, you know, when you're running around, you're always asking yourself, did i forget to wash my hands? did i use hand sanitizers? did i touch someone's phone? did i touch someone's chair? >> she is saying it's impossible to protect him entirely but when it comes to exquisite social distancing we can look at those pictures of katie miller and others once they're in that white house zone they all clearly thought that wasn't necessary. that's her yesterday. she tested positive today. reporters are wearing masks. she's not. >> yeah. and, you know, ambassador birx was responding to the question that i asked about why doesn't everyone wear a mask? it's impossible, really, to seemingly distance yourself enough in the white house, similar in hospitals as well. you just can't get that physical distance. people wear masks. she said, you know, we're doing everything we can, washing our hands, only going outside and wearing a mask when we're in public, but you're wearing a
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mask in the white house so as to not put the virus in the environment or try to reduce it, at least. it's good to hear the president saying the valets are now doing that. a few weeks from now, i think we'll say how is it possible they went so long without doing this? because more and more people will probably be diagnosed with this infection. >> sadly, i think we all know the answer, which is that the president didn't think it was necessary. he doesn't want to wear it. he refuses to wear that and has blatantly done that. what about the fact, dr. reiner, that the president and vice president are still together all the time? >> very worrisome. in the aftermath of 9/11, the president and vice president were separated for weeks. the concern was that a terrorist attack to decapitate the government. and now we have a virus which risks infecting both the president and vice president. i would limit their contact with each other. they should really be separated. you know, less they risk infecting each other. and the president is at great risk of dying from this virus.
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he's in the high-risk group. almost 70 years old. his body mass index is elevated consistent with obesity. those are two risk factors for a bad outcome with this virus. he should not get this virus. i would do everything i could to limit his exposure to people who might bring the virus to him. >> thank you both very much. >> sure. next, new york health officials now investigating the deaths of two children who had symptoms consistent with coronavirus. more on what we're learning about these two children. >> and the race for a vaccine. one group of researchers is so far along, they say they're weeks from knowing where the vaccine works. lead researcher is back out front. plus 125 million jobs were lost last month. federal reserve of the bank of san francisco tells me how long she thinks it will take this country to recover. eh, not enough fiber... chocolate would be good... snacking should be sweet and simple. the delicious taste of glucerna gives you the sweetness you crave while helping you manage your blood sugar.
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he was being treated at mt. sinai for inflammatory symptoms close to kawasaki disease and toxic shock syndrome. officials say his death was being investigated as a possible case of inflammatory syndrome as well as more and more states make moves to reopen. erin? >> california today, beginning a phased reopening, even though it is one of 28 states where new cases are still on the rise. the first state to issue a stay-at-home order will now allow stores that sell clothing and books, among others, to open for curbside pickup. also allowed to reopen, manufacturers, construction and car dealerships, with proper social distancing and sanitation protocols, but some 30% of businesses still remain closed. >> i know 70% is not 100%, and i deeply recognize with modifications means with restrictions, and with those restrictions means the struggle for businesses to get back to
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where they were prepandemic. >> reporter: by sunday, 48 states will have begun lifting restrictions. a new study from the university of maryland, based on cell phone data, showing more people from surrounding states rushing to georgia as it began to reopen. >> we are seeing major, major reduction in social distancing is almost like people were staying home for too long and they just couldn't wait for a cue to go out. >> reporter: meanwhile as meat packing plants begin to reopen, local officials reporting tyson's waterloo, iowa, plant has more than 1,000 employees testing positive for the virus. next door in nebraska, the governor says they'll stop reporting cases at specific plants unless they have the company's permission and verify the person's employment status. >> we're not disclosing that on a company-by-company basis. >> reporter: states across the country continue to grapple with the high toll the virus has had on nurse iing homes. >> just about the half of the fatalities in our state are related to long-term care facilities. >> reporter: states that haven't
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yet begun to reopen, laying out plans that they hope will allow them to do so safely. >> we haven't killed the beast, but we are ahead of it. >> reporter: new york mayor bill diblasio announcing a test and trace corps will be formed. >> by early june we'll have 2,500 public health foot soldiers in this corps. take an entity that didn't even exist and in the course of weeks it will be ramped up to 2,500 people to begin. big number but a necessary number to be able to build what we need to build. that number will grow. >> reporter: more evidence of unequal policing of social distancing rules. brooklyn district attorney's office confirming 35 out of 40 people arrested for violating guidelines were black, deblasio tweeting, the disparity in numbers does not reflect our values. we have to do better and we will. and more on the comes in in the last few minutes.
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mt. sinai emphasizing they believe this is a rare condition and urging any parents with concerns to contact their pediatrician for a consultation. state health department is investigating 73 reported cases of children with similar inflammatory symptoms. mt. sinai is encouraging everyone to continue to practice social distancing, wear masks and wash their hands. erin? >> athena, thank you very much. with these developments now to the race for a cure, researchers at oxford university giving one of the most accelerated timelines yet for a vaccine, saying they could have millions of doses ready for september. adrian hill, one of the lead researchers working on that vaccine in oxford. it's good to check back in with you. you've been working at what, by all accounts, is an unprecedented pace for this vaccine. are you willing to report that the vaccine will be ready by
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june, that's just a matter of weeks. >> what we've done since we talked last, we started this trial and recruited now almost 1,000 subjects who have been vaccinated. that's good progress. we're on schedule there. we will have completed this phase one trial by the end of next week, at least in terms of the vaccinations, and then we'll be moving on to try to recruit another thousand people by the end of the month. yes, it's still moving very quickly. we don't know, as i said before, when we'll get the answer. but we'll have some good indications on safety very soon and then the key next month is on the immune response that the vaccine actually produces. having a look at that, we can get a pretty good idea of how well it's likely to work. >> so, that is sbast east of ik fic as safety and east of fficacy?
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>> no. that's the immune responses that we expect. we're always targeting, remember, the end of august, september time for the final answer on efficacy. and we can't make that happen any faster because people have to get infected by covid for us to count cases and to see if the vaccine actually reduces those in the people who we vaccinated. can't do it any faster than that. if it works really, really well or we have a lot more cases than we expect, then it might be a little earlier. >> has there been any consideration or pressure on you to do those sort of challenge trials where you would actually expose people to the virus, as opposed to seeing if it happens naturally? >> sure. that's a great question. there's a lot of interest in whether you can do that sort of so-called challenge model in humans to test the covid vaccine. that's the sort of thing we do
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all the time for malaria testing, typhoid vaccine. am principle, yes, we could do that for covid. there are two to three things we don't have, thoerks at the moment. one is a suitable clinically approvable stock of the virus that we could actually give to people and secondly for safety reasons, we would really like to have some good drugs that we know, impact the virus. we can see those are coming along. there's nothing yet that you would want to risk dosing somebody with to be cured by that drug. but i think things are moving very fast in the drug field and in a few weeks, a few months, there should be something. >> so you have talked about having the doses ready by september, right, that you would be going through that part of the manufacturing process as you're finishing your efficacy trials so that if it passes you've got doses ready to go. so, where are you on that? i know you partnered now with
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astra-zene krch astra-zeneca, one of the biggest drug companies in the world. when you say millions of doses, what does that mean? you're looking at many billions of people. you're not going to get there. how much can you ramp this up? >> that's the gu news. as you say we partnered with a major manufacturer that sells vaccines. we have been working for really a week very closely with them and the news is very good. their plans really chime very well with what we were hoping to do. and you're right. we're not looking for a million doses. we're looking for hundreds of millions, maybe eventually a billion doses some time next year. you know, that's looking feasible. and if this pandemic carries on, spreading and growing in some countries and diminishing in others, we're going to be looking as a community maybe several different companies with different vaccines, trying to
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vaccinate billions of people. so, you know, we could get there first and produce close to a billion by the end of the year, that's a hugely tall order but it's not totally unreasonable. so, we're becoming more ambitious in that. >> well, i know, you know, we obviously will all see what happens. i know people are grateful for the ambition and the optimism. we appreciate your time, as always. thank you so much. >> thank you. "out front" next, today the united states had its worst jobs report in history. president trump, though, says the jobs will come back quickly. is that the case? we'll go to the president of the federal reserve bank in san francisco. >> multiple reports say america's favorite pasttime is about to come back. in what form, though? four-time all-star and world series champion alex rodriguez is "out front." at bayer, we make one-a-day prenatal vitamins
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tonight, a record number of americans out of work. the u.s. economy losing 20.5 million jobs last month, which is the most since the government began keeping track in 1939. the unemployment rate soared, now 14.7%. that is the worst rate
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registered in this country since the great depression. those headlines, though, don't even tell the whole story. average hourly earnings did rise by about 5%. and the reason is that so many people with lower-paying jobs are out of work. the earning appear, they're skewed higher. outfront now, mary daily, president of the federal bank of san francisco. i appreciate your time. we knew this would be awful and sort of incomprehensible, and it is. what concerns you the most about this report? >> well, it concerns me that so many people who already were less advantaged, marginalized, if you will, who got to come into the labor market because we had such a strong expansion go approximating, have now been sidelined in such great proportions. it will be really important as we come out safely and re-engage with work, that we go back and make sure that everybody becomes part of this new activity and recovery and not leave those people behind. we really can't afford another
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decade of slow growth. it brings them in only ten years later. >> the president says he expects jobs to come back quickly. here is how he put it today. >> those jobs will all be back, and they'll be back very soon and next year we're going to have a phenomenal year. >> do you think next year will be a phenomenal year? >> well, let me talk about my forecast, my baseline. and it starts with the coronavirus really determines a lot of this. my hope, what i'm hoping in the baseline is that we can come back safely. we listen to public health officials. we take it slow, gradual. we need to be thoughtful, gradual and flexible. if we do those things, then i expect us to have positive growth in 2021, but that's not going to be satisfying. you know, the federal reserve, we are given by congress two goals, full employment and price stability and that full employment just doesn't mean that most people come back.
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it means that all people get to come back and everyone american who wants a job can get one. >> so yesterday, you know, the investment officer at j pchlt mo morgue en said it could take 10 to 12 years for employment to return where it was. where it was was pretty incredible, right? you had record low unemployment for a lot of groups. do you believe that it could take that long, that this could be that deep and long of a recovery? >> i'm working night and day to ensure that doesn't happen. you saw unprecedented action by the federal reserve and also by congress to try to shore up businesses so that we could re-engage in activity. and when the coronavirus is behind us we can re-engage fully like we were months ago. it won't be quick in my opinion. it won't be v shaped. it will be gradual. we can't really let it go on for ten years. >> you have tourism in your area that you oversee, nevada, california, arizona, utah.
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you've got tourism massively. gaming massively. you have technology massively. and a whole lot of other things as well. i point out there are some bright spots perhaps in technology and, as we all know, and some of the most negative in terms of what's happening in industries in gaming and travel. anything stand out to you that we might not expect? >> well, what stands out that jobs are still being created. in silicon valley in technology, they're hiring in groups that can work at home and telework. there is demand. what is true, though, is that hawaii has basically closed down. they only have about 200 visitors a day now, and that is a massive shock to that group. so this is an uneven shock. and we're going to have to do things that help even out the recovery. >> all right. mary, i appreciate your time very much. interesting she mentions hawaii. today, the first day they didn't have a case and they're just
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starting to reopen this weekend. austin goolsbee, economic advisers under president obama. this is a jaw-dropping number when you look at this, 20 million americans. it's a thing out of science fiction, yet it is the reality. you know, you hear mary giving a very reasoned perspective on how this could go. when people are out there saying this is going to be great next year, you don't like suddenly have 20 people come back in as quickly as they went out. it's just not going to happen. how does the economy recover? >> well, i think you can get part of it to come back. the virus is the boss, as president daly said there. and the thing about that is, if you just open the doors and tell everybody, go back out there, first of all, a lot of people will not go back out there. you've seen that already in the states that are reopening. but the second is, there are
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countries where they reopened too quickly, the virus flared back up and they had to go back into lockdown and it devastated the credibility of the government where they did that, because the government told people it was safe. then they go out and it turns out it's not safe. so, i think everybody should take a little bit of a step back here. and recognize we've got an unbelievable wound to the economy. hopefully, it's going to come back faster than normal recessions come back. at normal pace it will be a decade before we're back to something like normal. i think we can come back faster than that. but promising that all the jobs will come back by the end of the year seems like a big mistake to me. >> you have the president, obviously, saying next year will be phenomenal. his council of economic advisers has said things will get a lot worse. you do have different views coming out of the white house. larry kudlow, a person you and i
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know well professionally, here is what he said today. >> look, the second half of this year should grow by 20% off of the difficult second quarter and 2021 could be a terrific american recovery. >> all right. 20% off of a difficult second quarter. i guess it depends what your base rate is. even that, do you think that's possible? >> that seems like a stretch to me. i hope that's right. if you havy minus 40 and then a plus 20, you're down 20%. that would be the worst year in the history of the gdp. i don't think they -- i just don't understand why they're try ing to dance a jig and say this is going to be amazing. hey, pay no attention to the unemployment rate that just went up by more in one month than unemployment has ever gone up in any year in u.s. history,
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throughing new year of the great depression. why try to minimize that? i guess i just don't understand what they're doing. >> austan, thank you. >> yeah. good seeing you again. the pandemic putting a serious financial strain on so many in this country, including churches. baseball legend alex rodriguez is my guest. does he believe reports that baseball could be back in a matter of weeks? . with fidelity wealth management, your dedicated adviser can give you straightforward advice and tailored recommendations. that's the clarity you get with fidelity wealth management.
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the economic meltdown having a dramatic impact on houses of worship, churching fearing they'll have to close their door force good as donations have dried up. kyung lah is out front. >> reporter: with a spiritual look to god it is the mortality of a pandemic that threatens their faith. >> now we ask that you help us in one of the most difficult periods of our church's history. >> reporter: coronavirus moved the congregation out. >> god be with us and bless us, god. and god speak to our spirit. >> reporter: the service now
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virtual. fewer than ten people allowed inside this chapel. severely impacting the donation basket. >> takes finances to cover those expenses that are necessary. all of the utilities, the mortgages. >> reporter: your church is truly, in some ways, a business. >> yes, church is a business. it's a tremendous strain. >> reporter: the grant ame church is one of the many houses of worship impacted around the world. in vatican city, the pope has delivered his message to a vacant square. >> thank you for everything that every one of you are doing. >> reporter: in tennessee, the pews are parking lots for the socially distanced faithful, created in the era of covid, not enough to cover the bills. latest available data shows 40% of congregations had no savings. >> been having to juggle my own
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crisis of faith, where is god, what is god doing? >> this is what pain feels like. >> reporter: robert lee leads the church in north carolina. like other pastors and priests, lee has delivered last rites to coronavirus patients. he has taken a pay cut and turned to twitter. if you have extra funds lying around and find my work meaningful, please help. >> this is a make or break moment for communities of faith. synagogues, temples everywhere. we're all struggling in this. many churches that i know of did not have online giving platforms until just recently. >> hi. this is father modesto. open the latch. >> reporter: this priest walked his congregates how to give. >> it's hard not to be. he's giving as much as he can,
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but knows it's not enough. >> 10% of nothing i mac a month is nothing compared what i've gained since i've been coming here. >> reporter: you heard the pastor in our story say businesses are churches, churches are small businesses. they do qualify. it may surprise you that they can apply for the ppp loan, the program we covered so much here on "out front." churches we spoke with, though, did not qualify for those ppp programs. at least they didn't get their loans approved yet. erin? >> kyung, thank you very much. you see him live here, yankee great alex rodriguez. does he believe baseball is about to come back? what will it look like? we'll ask him, next.
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a plan for 2020 for spring training to start in mid june and the actual season in early july. out front now, 14-time all-star, three-time mvp and world series champion with the new york yankees, alex rodriguez. baseball back in july, the pandemic, of course, will still be going on. do you think it will happen? >> i certainly think so and i hope so. obviously, i'm a fan first. but i know that major league baseball officials are working around the clock. look, i think they will let science lead the way and our public officials. i think safety is obviously the number one thing. but there's a lot of variables, er erin, to think about. it's not just players. there are coaches over 65, there's umpires. there's kids that have asthma. there's a lot of variables and factors that are being considered that are not really being talked about. but i am still very hopeful and optimistic. >> so there was this talk, as you know, alex, that at first they were going to quarantine all 32 teams in a few states for the entire season.
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that was thrown out there. then no, there might be three divisions of teams based on geography so you only have to go where you would drive so you're not asking teams to fly, things like that. what are you hear about how baseball would even work? >> i think the three divisions makes a lot of sense. everything is cut into regions, but i think the big issue inside baseball, as they say, is the 30 owners and the players association have to come to pay. will there be additional concessions with those people in the stands, without any fans. after they come up with an agreement, hopefully july is the right time. >> so you talk about the fans. you know, there was a major milestone in baseball in taiwan. i know you saw, alex, fans once again were allowed in the stands. they had to sit apart, though. it's a really weird-looking thing. they're wearing masks, multiple
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seats apart, 1,000 of them allowed per game. people are probably thrilled to get that at this point. there's baseball under way in south korea, but look at this. no fans. banners with the faces of fake fans. look, you spent a dozen years playing in new york. you know how passionate the fans are. part of how you plays, that roar you would feel. can you imagine playing without fans? >> no, the game is all about fans, they're the shareholders, the owners of our game. we have the privilege to play, manage or broadcast in my case now, but fans are a big part of it. they come out to the stadium, also watch at home. and america's never been hungrier for sports and baseball. it is america's favorite pastime, and i think america needs its comfort food, baseball. >> would you feel comfortable playing now, if it were you?
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>> real answer, i don't know. i don't have enough of the science. i have four kids at home, a family. that's always my concern. my concern is also for the people. over 30 million people unemployed, 1 of every 5 child going through hunger. those are really my bigger concerns at macro level. players always want to play, fans always want to watch. key is follow the science and do the right thing not just for short term but long term. >> you talk about hunger, you and your fiance and your four kids, combined family, you donated meals to workers. you and jennifer. she's also from the bronx, and new york is the epicenter of this crisis, how has that impacted you both during this? >> in a big way. we're both new yorkers, we
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mentioned so many people going through challenges, unemployment, health issues, and jennifer and i donated over a million meals simply to make our dent in one of our biggest problems right now, and hopefully encourage other people in fortunate positions to do the same. >> this week we actually had a piece end of the show, dad in georgia when they were allowed to go to the baseball field celebrating first home run by his four-year-old son, kid named asher. dad out of control with excitement. turns out it's somebody you know, faced him at 22 months old in a hitting contest. "tonight show" with jimmy fallon, asher won. i guess he's the real deal. >> oh, man. look at that. >> pretty amazing. you talk about the kids.
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i have a six-year-old boy, loves baseball, his league is shut down, all shut down. they missed this whole spring. he misses it. what do you say to kids who really love the game but are unable to keep learning it right now? >> there's over 2 million kids, boys and girls playing baseball and softball not playing. your son is one of them. i say that baseball will be back soon. baseball has always been there for me, will be more millions of kids out there. there's other ways you can think about watching videos, youtube, ways to grab the ball. parents will hate me but throw the ball against the wall, play catch, shadow swings, lot you can do as a kid. i lived in very small apartment and drove my mother crazy playing against the wall, hit beans with a broom stick.
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>> i love it. there are a lot of kids in small apartments could take that advice. a-rod, alex, thank you so much, i appreciate it. >> thank you. in "out front" next, celebration of the end of world war ii, a little bit differently in the age of coronavirus. flonase relieves your worst symptoms which most pills don't. get all-in-one allergy relief for 24 hours, with flonase. confident financial plans, calming financial plans, complete financial plans. they're all possible with a cfp® professional. find yours at letsmakeaplan.org. good morning, mr. sun. good morning, blair. [ chuckles ] whoo. i'm gonna grow big and strong.
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allied forces end of world war ii, last recorded nazi message intercepted and decoded by britain revealed first time. german lieutenant sending colleagues a final goodbye, british troops entered 14:00,
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16th of may, all radio traffic will cease. wishing you best. closing down forever. another asking for cigarettes, no cigarettes here. we face another global battle. in lieu of massive celebrations, scaled down tributes. washington the veterans donning masks in wreath laying ceremony at world war ii memorial. in germany, chancellor angela merkel attended ceremony, so poignant and beautiful. in france, president macron led similar ceremonies, and residents held socially distant street parties in ita, unveiled
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code breaker messages from blechly hall. tlank you so much for joining us on this friday, and "cuomo primetime" starts now. >> thanks for that sense of perspective. are we showing the same desperation now open question. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "primetime," coop is off, probably on daddy duty if i had to guess. you have me two hours tonight. virus inside the president's inner circle. doing all this testing and tracing and president