hey, everybody, i'm chris cuomo, welcome back to "prime time," this is you're regular time, we did 8:00 and second hour, regular hour. why should anything be clear? everything is confusing. president should be more worried about this virus, and i argue to you he's more worried than he's telling us. look how he's reacting to it being in the white house. it's not just one case but two among white house staffers. today he revealed that the vice president's press secretary has it. woman without the mask in the picture in front of your face, wife of stephen miller, one of his top aides.

i hope there are light symptoms and they pass quickly and no one else in her family gets it. diagnosis comes day after confirmation that president's personal valet tested positive. this spreads. that's why you need testing and tracing. response in the white house? everybody get tested every day, trace, where was katie, and the valet, we have to trace it. exactly. wh so why does president downplay testing and tracing when he's having it done around him? why say that tracing is unnecessary and everything is going to go away when everything around him shows the truth? and by the way, he's not 100% safe from this. doesn't want to wear masks, not letting other people to protect him from exposure. take that to our chief doctor, sanjay gupta. first things first, we only have

one president, okay, and if people around you are getting cases, inevitable the way this thing spreads, what has to be done for him, whether he likes it or not? >> so testing is important. obviously been a lot of discussion about it, but point you're making, correct point, obviously rather not get the infection in the first place. nobody wants it. he's in his 70s, more vulnerable to have serious sickness if he does get infected. don't want to get this, involves protecting him like anybody else. challenge about the white house, it's hard to maintain physical distance over there, people are in close approximateproximity. closer you are without protection is a problem. testing yes, mask thing is is

not perfect but do everything we can to decrease the spread, mitigate the amount of virus you're putting in the environment. yes, people around the president should have masks on. like secret service. they're there to protect the president and who is protecting him from the virus and everybody else for that matter? >> does he have to have a mask on? he had it on backstage he said, couldn't wear it around the elderly veterans because it was blowing off. what is the reality of what we need there? >> guidance is should be wearing a mask in proximity of people where you can't physically distance. that's it. getti getting situation now where people probably want to wear masks in public, period. very infectious virus, many people becoming infected, need to do everything we can to slow

down the spread. all i can. people are going to say, well, i was 6 1/2 feet away, trying to find loopholes, we can do that. remember a conversation with you a couple of months ago, people saying it's okay to be running in close proximity to people on the embarcadero, that's fine. because it says exercise outside but weren't keeping physical distance. now seems silly to have done that. three weeks from now idea we're arguing about hair salons and wearing masks is going to seem silly. we're focusing on the trivial aspects. wear a mask, people should get tested, all true, remains true, we're just not doing the stuff we need to do. >> mask thing, you're right, i'll give people space and learning curve, we've been all over the place with masks. there's confusion, they'll get up to speed. here's what i can't accept,

okay? this president, going contrary to fact and common sense from jump about testing. only reason he doesn't like testing is it reveals the truth of a situation he wants to go away. more we test, more we see it's not going away. no databasis for reopening right now other than his enthusiasm. and reality of it, sanjay, i don't usually talk politics with you, but reality is look at what they're doing in the white house, if testing doesn't mean a damned thing, why are they testing the hell out of everybody every day? is tracing is hyperreactive, why are they tracing so much with two cases? why are they acting in exact way that people like you are asking them to react to the entire country? >> pauthey're doing it because s right thing to do now. they need to test and trace.

everybody knows. medical community is not one voice on everything but so far most of the stuff with testing and tracing, speaking with one voice. maybe say exact number of tests, some suggest 1 million a day, others 500,000 a day, but fact is we need to test and trace. and if the point is we want to ultimately bring down number of the cases, that's what it takes. might expose there are more cases than we realize but also might show us fatality rate is lower as well. lot of people carrying the virus not getting sick is important data and might be calming data, may bring down the fatality rate in this country. but way to really bring the numbers down ultimately is to test. test and trace, and hopefully treat. >> it's a quick argument to win. any of you saying i'm not fair to the president, he means what he says, it's going to go away, right now that's what he should

be saying, i'm not going to get tested every day, it's going to go away, it's not big deal. we're not going to trace and test, it's okay. it's all right. he's not doing all of that. he's taking the advice. when it comes to him, he's acting in way he doesn't when it comes to you. ask you something medical in nature. kawasaki syndrome seemed to be esoteric thing popping up a little bit, don't really know if it's related. now there are more kids getting sick. is this just us paying more attention to kawasaki syndrome or do we believe there is a reason to see some type of overlap with this virus? >> yeah, it's a good question, chris. you always do worry about observer bias in a situation like this when everything is covid, then everything must be related to covid, could be the situation here but it's looking more suspicious.

15 kids. your brother was talking about 73 children who had some form of this inflammatory disease. kawasaki's is inflammatory disease of many different systems of the body, primarily blo blood vessels, including around the heart, coronary blood vessels, makes it so dangerous. first series of 15 patients, four children did have active virus, diagnostic tests positive. six had antibodies to the virus, so 10 of the 15 had some relationship to covid disease. five didn't seem to have it. did they miss it, false negative? you don't know, testing is not perfect here, but idea this disease even in its aftermath and recovery phase, chris, which you know about, could be still lingering in some way, causing inflammation, something we need to know and figure out.

whether the kids need to be treated with anti-inflammatory -- not aspirin by the way, most parents know that. but some kind of antiinflammatory, when to give it, might it have advantage here, investigators are looking into it. still a very rare thing but do well to keep eye on it. alert went out two weeks ago to all the hospitals in the u.k., said be on the lookout for kawasaki disease, may be related to coronavirus, starting to hear it in the u.s. >> seeing enough data points, this virus beats you down in way that makes you more susceptible to other things. may include with kids who have been somewhat invulnerable to this thank god this disease called kawasaki. we need more data but worth being worried about when you have a five-year-old boy passing

away from complications. sanjay, thank you so much for making sense of the situation. god bless you, have a great weekend. >> you too, buddy, take care. big move in california ahead of november's election and it's because of coronavirus. mail-in ballots now available for all. it's controversial decision, not sure why. look at it through the context of ohio's primary less than two weeks ago. ohio is more advanced when it comes to mail-in balloting, time and leeway and governor there extended the time in that key battleground state and wound up doing all mail as test run. how did it go? mixed results but want to hear from governor mike de 79, how does he feel it went and is instructive for rest of the country? next. like prescriptions are on their way. every day, all across america, we deliver for you.

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important presidential and all elections are going this way. california wants voters to mail in ballots exclusively. passed executive order today, makes california first to do it for a november contest which includes the presidential ballot. way it will work, send ballots to all 20 million-plus voters there. this is an idea that california did not create. just saw a test run in the ohio primary. bring in governor of that key swing state, ohio governor mike dewine, always a pleasure. >> good to see you chris, and can i just say it was a great piece on tracing. people are going to get really familiar with tracing, it's nothing to be afraid of and i think you explained it very well. very important. >> and i won't be your advocate but i will pretend to be so you

have culpable deniability, it is not fair to ask you to do it and not give you the money to do it. it is very expensive to get these workers, train them, deploy them, aggregate the data, make the calls and the follow-up. and to ask states to do it and not give you the money to do it is basically asking you not to do it. i hope that changes. i know you want to cooperate and good relations but it's a tough mandate. >> but we can the use money gav coronavirus money coming at us we're going to use. we're out hiring people now, health departments are hiring people. so it's important. and we're excited about do ittinit.

>> if they offered you ten times that i'm sure you'd take it. more and faster you get data from people, more confident they are to go out. reopening doesn't restart the economy, the consumer restarts it, not supply side. >> you're absolutely right. people have to have confidence. >> seen recent polls from your local paper saying people are nervous getting back out there. good reason, not giving them reason not to be worried about it. don't see data, why believe and go out, not going to believe politicians, even a straight shooter like dewine. >> one thing we have done, as we've opened different businesses, we have great protocols and able to assure people we've come up with best protocols based on what science said, the health community says and business people actually

doing it, the professionals. but it is a matter of confidence and people have to feel confident or won't get a haircut or go to the restaurant or whatever it is. no doubt about it, confidence. >> looking at what you did in the primary from balloting perspective. there are criticisms, some things to be done sooner, getting everybody a ballot, giving option to go online and keep it secure, but overall do you believe for november you can approach something like all mail-in situation or enough so that anyone who doesn't want to go in person would be able to exercise their franchise? >> good thing about ohio law in regards to coronavirus, people have four weeks to vote, can go absentee, don't have to give a reason, just want absentee ballot. also can go certain days to board of elections, and even the

weekend before they can go in. have the ability to spread it out. anybody can be at home and know during that whole period of time, if i send application in, i can get a ballot, never have to leave my home. we hope we'll have that four-week period of time, then the regular election, 13 hours in ohio to go vote. we think we're in pretty good shape as we move to the november election. >> we'll have to see what it looks like as we go closer, the safeguards and optionality for people. we'll keep talking about it, good dialogue to have. one of the silver linings with this is i have rapport with governors i wouldn't ordinarily have. as people know, media isn't your friend, it matters that people know you can come on the show and talk about things, not get head chopped off. you're doing messaging about

masking, got pushback, made accommodations for that. there is a new concern that the state -- i want you to be able to respond to this -- the state is encouraging companies to report workers who don't return so we can kick them off unemployment. is that what you're asking? >> not quite like that. it's a law that's been in ohio for a long time. if somebody gets unemployment and then you call them back to work and if they don't come back to work, they can lose their unemployment. >> that's a malingering law. >> i don't know about that, it's most states have it. >> people who can work but don't, not on the public dole when they could be working? isn't this different? >> it's an old term.

>> i'm an old guy. but worried about virus and don't want to go back to work, don't you want an accommodation given the special circumstances? >> we've certainly asked employers to take it into consideration. if someone is afraid to go back to work, no one should be going in to work. one of the things we have in place, 113 health departments and we've made it clear if you don't think your place of work is safe, should be reporting it to the health department. and people have done that in the past and encourage them to do it in the future. we've come up with very, very tough -- not guidelines but mandates for businesses. every employee is supposed to wear a mask. my wife fran made that for me, i wore it. >> let me see it. wife made it and half a second on television? come on. there you go.

very nice, well done. i like that it's two-sided. how do you make sure it works fair for both sides? i get called back to work, don't want to go, hear bad things about it, show up, things not done right way. now they report me and unemployment is cut. unless i know the system well enough to get ahead of it, how do you protect a worker from being acted on by employer unfairly? you said they can say it was unsafe but once you have your money pulled you're at disadvantage as worker. how do you protect them in this situation? >> i think we have to watch that. look, most employers want a safe place because they want to attract employees to come. if people don't think it's safe, they're not going to come. but by having the ability in ohio for someone to call in and make a report, can be anonymous

report, could call in, wouldn't have to say who they are, and health departments will go out and inspect. it's so important that people feel safe and they actually be safe at work. these are people who are doing it every single day. so you make an interesting point but i think that the system that we have in place does in fact work and will work. >> i don't have any reason to question it, just saying the deference should be on the side of the employee because they don't have the power of the employer, especially if reporting them gets their money pulled and they'll be in the hole. house republicans are trying to limit orders issued by ohio department of health to 14 days legislative approval for any extension. you're a brilliant example of keeping politics out of policy sto thus far in your state.

why allow politicians to decide anything about what a health department does? >> i've got a great health director, as you know, dr. amy acton, followed her advice and pulled in every expert we could find to make those decisions. but chris i've made it very clear -- and we've had protesters at her house, people who are upset. and i've said to the protesters, look, the buck stops with me, i'm the governor, i'm making the decisions. leave my health director alone and come out against me, complain about me, don't go after her. what the house of representatives did i think was a mistake. and i've made it very clear if that bill ever got to my desk i would veto that. this -- >> people playing politics. >> you have a beautiful mask your wife made, and i know why

you're wearing it, being example, not easy but leading the way even not popular. i tried to have this guy and give him fair hearing, bagged out last second. nino vitale, not going to wear a mask because made in jesus' image and he didn't have one, is that who you want to control health department policy? >> he has a right to say that -- >> doesn't make it right he said it. >> what we're trying to do is explain to people, and you've made it clear on your show and we try to do it every press conference, when you wear this, not wearing it for yourself but other person. if we all do that, going to add an extra layer of protection. we're going back to work in ohio and across the country. and so our risk is up. it's a fact. when we start intermixing more and doing more things.

so it's so very important, much more important than it was before, to sekeep the social distancing, wear that mask to protect that other person. if we do those things, we're going to bring the economy back. and we're going to be also able to protect people. but we have to do it. it's more important today that we do it than it was two weeks ago when we weren't starting back and opening things up in ohio. that's my message to ohio viewers, this is important. >> look, also, governor, your mandate has been expanded. you're one of the governors risen to top as national lierd on this. my audience is not ohio specific. >> i know. >> people watching you all over the country and world because thus far you've done the job of balancing -- haven't made it binary, go back to work or stay healthy. you're fighting hard to find

ways to go back to work while balancing public health and my job obviously is make sure that continues, and i appreciate you using this platform to make the case for what you're doing in your state, governor mike dewine, wish you good health, best to your wife and family. thank you. >> you as well. thank you chris, very much. >> be well. other big story of this night, today should have been ahmaud arbery's 26th birthday. instead his family and nation are now watching as white father and son face murder charges in shooting death of unarmed black jogger. that is the key word, jogger. i know black is also a key word but facts here. you know what arbery's father calls this shooting? lynching. strong word, especially for african-american to use. why? marcus arbery on the day that should be his son's birthday joins us next. uses 2 multi-surface rubber

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all right. cannot lose sight of this georgia. today would have been ahmaud arbery's 26th birthday. to celebrate him, people across the world taook to the pavement to run 2.23 miles because killed on february 23rd. gregory and travis mcmichael arrested for the shooting. spoke with his sister jasmine and tonight i'm joined by his father, marcus, and family attorney i know well, counselor, benjamin crump. always good to see you. mr. arbery, sorry to meet you under these circumstances. won't take up a lot of your

time, plenty of time to talk, a lot ahead of us in this situation, but what do you want people to know about your son and what this means to you? >> i want people to know he was a very good young man, loved people. i want people to remember him as good-hearted young man. if he had $1 and you needed $1, he would give it to you. that's how big his heart was. work whole week, 40 hours and if you need check, give you. working, give you whole check. that's how good heart he was. everybody loved him. if you known him, see he was remarkable, good young man and see him get lynched like that but a racial mob like that, it's just devastating to our family. >> these are heavy words for you

to use. why do you see it as a lynching by a racial mob? >> when you come at a young man, jump on the back of a pickup truck with a pump shot gun and .357 magnum in a pickup truck and follow him like an animal and gun him down like an animal when he's running, trying to avoid y'all, he just tried to stay out of the way, y'all kept on pursuing him and blocking him in with that truck. and he didn't have no chance, all he did was try to defend himself, no win. three men with guns, unarmed black, african-american man, didn't give him no chance. color of his skin, just, just racist hatred, that's no place

for that. that's just got around here. that's why i want these men to stay in jail. don't want them bond out, want them to get life sentences. we just don't believe in killing, just want them to suffer how my family is suffering. want them to see my son's face every time they do time, see his face and suffer hard because i just don't believe in no death, just want you to stay locked up. so don't get out here and kill nobody again. >> it's interesting degree of mercy when you're feeling your worst, even now don't want death for men who did this, just want them to be punished. look, only right way to do this is -- i understand how you feel. i want to talk to benjamin about

some of the legal aspects about this early on because it's not fair for you to have to deal with it, mr. arbery, ben, you know what's going to happen, defense is going to be -- this kid is not who he's made out to be, he was running away from the scene of a crime and maybe even one of these guys knew him from earlier case against him referred to in a recusal level from barnhill, one of the prosecutors who recused himself. what do you make of the first set of allegations? running away, leaving scene of a crime, knew him from earlier case? >> chris, we've been here before, whether trayvon martin or tamir rice or other unjustifiable deaths.

they kill our children, then try to assassinate their character. i know that's what they'll try to do with ahmaud arbery, but truth of the matter is we have the objective evidence. we have the 911 case, asked what is he doing wrong, they never answered because he wasn't doing anything wrong, simply jogging, chris. fact we have video we can't unsee once you see this lynching in 2020, not 1920, chris but 2020, and fact it took 74 days for them to arrest these killers even though they had the video evidence. i want to be clear for the record, chris cuomo, it wasn't because they saw the video, law authorities that made them arrest the killers, it was because we the people saw the video and made them arrest the

killers. we the people refused to remain silent once we saw unbelievable lynching of young black man in america in 2020. >> right. i hear you about it, the tape, fact they've had it, video is damning. i know you heard me last night say to jasmine, ahmaud's sister i'm sorry it took me this long to get on it, should have known better with all the experience we have and other cases. i'm going to look at case forensically. only way to get justice is give the benefit of everything that could be brought up, i'm not doing that in front of mr. arbery's father. i'm sorry for your pain, hope justice is served. ben, i'm always a call away with what happens in this case. we will not leave it until it meets its resolution.

i promise. laura coates, she knows the prosecution side. you play the prosecutor and i'll push up what we're going to hear here. just quick for people, yes, there is a private citizen can make arrest law in georgia. you have to witness a crime, be able to do it safely, cannot use force in detaining somebody. let alone unnecessary force. they don't have a defense under that law. stand your ground also in place in georgia. don't get to start altercation repeatedly the way they did and rely on stand your ground. just for you saying that online, you're not lawyers or not getting a law degree. laura, first pushback. we know this guy, one of us had something to do with case before on him, he was described to us as somebody who would have been wart of a criminal spree in our

area and when we came up just to ask him questions, he ran. >> you actually have no right to believe you can usurp the role of police. if these two men believed he was somebody who was a suspect in a crime, they had a phone call to make, 911. fact that one of them was former investigator, former police officer, chris, i am a former prosecutor, can i walk into any courtroom and indict anyone? no, there are proper channels to pursue. everybody member of law enforcement should look at this case and say if you believe there is somebody that requires police attention, call three numbers, easiest thing to learn. and you mentioned two things i want to highlight here. one is yes, there is a citizen's arrest law in georgia but you have to actually have witnessed

the crime or have immediate knowledge, not that you think the other day you may have seen somebody who matched a description, may have put his hand down his pants a few days ago, may have been a gun missing a couple of months ago, no way to tie this person yet pursue with a shot gun trying to cut him off, jogging down the middle of the street 1:00 in the afternoon and you believe you have every right to stop him. yes there's a citizens arrest law but you're turning people over to the policement and someone confronted in this way has no requirement to stop for you. requirement to stop for a police officer requires a police officer. if you don't have that, every person decides they can do the law better, be part of the wild west, be sheriff of these here parts, badge or not, would be able to stop anyone for any reason, detain for however long

they think is necessary, akin to kidnapping and would decide -- can't stand. >> and 911 call, what did he do, they don't have good answer. why did this take so long, i take crump's position, tape being seen by you and me and media and going to governor kemp, what the hell, we need answers, changes things. guy barnhill says in the statement of recusal there's video of him going into construction site. not taking anything. like it's trespassing but if that's best thing they have, why did barnhill characterize it that way when any cursory investigation would show that's

bs reckoning, and what does it tell you about the disposition of how the police and authorities apparently took this situation from jump? >> no. really the first issue here, why is a prosecutor who has recused himself offering any statement whatsoever about a case? if you've recused yourself on conflict of interest perceived or relaid to you, you shouldn't be commenting on the case. reason we have recusals, you are perceived as inherently biased and can't be objective messenger of the facts or relayer of information. for him to lay out what he believes to be facts of the case having recused himself is poisoning the well and potential jury pool and handling himself in way that casts doubt on the credibility of the office which was already in question. not just the delay, people thinking we can't hold a grand jury, laura, the stay-at-home

order in place. this happened february 23rd, what transpired february to april is clear moment you say what were the tactics and decisions. >> nothing. >> exactly. they had time to make a letter by a recused prosecutor who had no business inserting himself. similar to people who have no business making a citizens arrest when 911 was an available option. >> laura coates, thanks for putting the mind to this matter. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. great asset to have. sean penn is here tonight. he has a relief organization. not a known face fronting for psa, not that there's anything wrong with that. but he's got an organization helping tens of thousands of americans and making jobs of the first responders easier. haven't seen anything like it happening anywhere else and can be put anywhere in the country.

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easy choice for ameri-can, oscar winner sean penn, nothing to do with his acting, but core has set up testing sites in atlanta, detroit, california. expanding to navaho nation, third biggest concentration of cases on that reservation. we had the president of the nation here to talk about it. sean penn, thanks for taking the time to be with us tonight. >> my pleasure to be with you, chris. >> what have you figured out about how to do this easily, efficiently, and repeatedly? >> we had the benefit of being in california with the leadership of governor newsom

and mayor of los angeles, garcetti, and the los angeles fire department, had set up very good and asked as an emergency response organization, we had an infrastructure for it, what could we do? how could we help? on each of the test they were deployed to test. so we wept in. they tested. they trained us into their program. we started testing a few weeks ago. we're up to 100,000 tested. and just that partnership between a government organization and an ngo was seemed to me to be the way that this could be possibly done,

replicated so that, in fact, unlike what the admiral who is being touted as the testing czar said, which i thinks had a ludicrous lack of faith in the american spirit in saying that we couldn't test every american. we could test every american two times a week. the only missing element of that is the level of defense production focused on mass production of the ppe as well as the tests and some resourcing of the labs. more robust lab response, microlabs. >> so you believe this can be done all over the country with different ngo organizations? it doesn't have to be just core response. and you put out a manual for how to do it. what are the main elements that will make this work, say, if people wanted to do it in new york? >> well, whether it's new york or a rural area, a suburban

area, we made the manual so that it was as adaptable as possible. the only -- the only question mark in the manual is that which the federal government could most certainly provide, which is the mass production of these materials they would need to do the tests. the testing itself is rather simple. our job is to make sure that the efficacy of the test is lived up to in the administration of the test. so that's what we're very diligent about. we have a slogan, slow is smooth, smooth is fast, blood is slippery. we don't want to have a slippery finger on a hot trigger. we want to make sure people are not getting a false negative. our teams our volunteers are extraordinary. what we've seen is you can take -- people have great will in these cases. we already are, as you said, we're in atlanta, we're in new orleans, we're in detroit, and all of the sites throughout california because we're also working with the governor's

project in bakersfield and the napa valley. we only hire locals to -- we pay -- because a lot of these people had jobs as well. it's a stimulus for them. they come out and work their you know what's off. >> right. >> they come out because they care about their community. >> let me ask you one more thing before we go, which is the idea of what we're hearing from the white house, that, you know what, testing's a little overblown. you know, it works, but you can't test everybody, and some governors think there is a better way than testing to know what's going on. what do you believe about the reality of testing in terms of its value and getting us through this pandemic and giving the confidence to reopen? >> well, i'm not going to spend any time arguing. i'm not a scientist. my belief is in the scientists, and the testing does two essential things. one is it will tell somebody if they are positive or negative to covid-19. if somebody is positive, they immediately isolate. and then comes the contact tracing component.

the other part of it is that all the information provided from the people who come in, and i think in great citizenry, especially the asymptomatics who don't know for sure, come in to test. that goes to the public health surveillance, and that's part of what we are told is going to get us to a vaccine. so we're mission focused on testing and we're trying to be fluid. we may have to pivot. and we'll be ready to do that. >> the reason this resonates with me so much is not just because the godfather of one of my kids is a good friend of yours and a good friend of mine and told me about it, but it is the linking mechanism between the federal government putting it on the states and the states not being able to do it all themselves and not getting the funding to do the same. ngos can fill a very important space. you are proof of performance in that regard. sean penn, i salute you as an ameri-can and thank you for being with me tonight. let me know how i can help. >> you and your family are an extraordinary force of service

here, and we thank you. >> thank you. you know you can get me. i'm a call away. god bless and good luck. be healthy. >> thank you. >> all right. sean penn making a difference. period. we'll be right back. when you shop with wayfair, you spend less

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tonight's cheer for health care workers is a little different. take a look and i'll explain. >> woo! thank you! >> i was finally in the city for when they do the cheer. i'm taking a shower. i start to hear all this noise outside and i realize what it is. >> did you hear me? >> i almost bust my ass getting out of the shower and i start cheering for them and recording it while i'm doing it. i had my thumb over the -- >> i wish you would have busted your you know what. did you hear me say -- i wasn't

sure i was on. i said, is that him? >> i was so pumped up the whole block, everybody was at their windows. it was such a cool thing to see and be a part of it. i was terrible at shooting it, but what an amazing thing to witness firsthand. you know, i'm on the upper east side there and the whole place came alive for them because there are so many hospitals in the area. >> it's amazing to be there at 7:00. i'm glad there were no reflective surfaces to see you jumping out of the shower. >> i actually said that to rosily when we were looking at it. you don't see anything, do you? speaking of cheers. from cheers to jeers. did you hear us in the truck the other day? >> no, i didn't. >> when you were jogging across the street, somebody said "keep running, fat boy." and you turned around. that was bella driving my truck. >> i figured it was -- you know, i'm used to people yelling at me. >> you had the mask