three of the nation's top coronavirus officials now quarantining because of concerns the virus is spreading throughout the west wing of the white house. tonight top infectious disease expert dr. anthony fauci telling cnn's jake tapper he'll do a, quote, modified quarantine for 14 days. cdc director dr. robert redfield l will enter self-quarantines l. also for 14 days. and the fda commissioner dr. stephen hahn, he began self-isolating for 14 days yesterday. all three because of a potential exposure to a staffer at the white house who tested positive for covid-19. back with us for more analysis, our senior political commentator, david axelrod and our chief political analyst gloria borger. when you see a president holding a meeting today without masks, without a lot of social distancing after two members of

the white house staff tested positive, david, what does that tell you about how seriously the white house is taking all of this? >> what it tells me is that the president wants to sell the country on the idea that we are getting through this, that we're in the next phase of this. you know, i was saying to gloria in the break, sometimes i have the feeling that the president wanted to quarantine dr. fauci and the other scientists because they've been bothersome to him lately. they have been honest with the country about what this virus entails, that it's still out there, that we have to be very careful about how we open up. as you know, the cdc guidelines have been held up by the white house to state and local governments. so you know, i think the president has made a decision that he wants to will this to be over and to signal to the country that we're moving into a different phase. i think that's dangerous.

and the best politics here is to follow the scientists and their advice because if you don't we can get into deeper water again. >> we certainly can. and gloria, i know you've done a lot of reporting on this as well. what's wrong with going out there and showing the american public it's important to wear a face mask during sensitive times like this? why doesn't the president do that? >> nothing. i mean, there's been a lot of reporting which shows that the president feels that he would look silly and that he doesn't want to do that. and remember, at the beginning of the outbreak he was asked would you wear a mask and he said no, because i'm going to meet with world leaders, et cetera, et cetera. of course, he's not. because nobody's coming to the white house. there have been a few people inside the white house, a small number wearing masks but the example is set from the top, wolf, in everything organization, including the white house. if the president were to walk in wearing a mask, i guarantee you that the people around pimm

would be wearing a mask. and this is a president, as david is saying, who wants to kind of say okay, we're on to chapter 2 now, we're done with phase one, we're done with all the tough stuff, and now we're going to get back to work and the country's going to go back to normal. wearing a fas mask kind of doesn't fit that narrative for him. he just doesn't want to do it. >> david, former president barack obama had a private phone conversation with a lot of his former aides last night. the tape was leaked to yahoo news among other things. president obama said trump administration's handling of the coronavirus was an absolute chaotic disaster. so he's speaking out. there were a few hundred people on that call. i assume he believed those words would get out. >> yeah, actually, there were 3,000 people on the call. and you know, this wasn't his first rodeo. i'm sure he knew that with 3,000 people on the call those words would get out. and he expressed what i think

many people have expressed in terms of concern about how this has been handled. i just want to say parenthetically before we get back to president obama, you know, everybody shares the goal, the aspiration to get people back to work. this is incredibly painful to see 33 million americans out of work. but the reality is that if we do it wrong it's only going to prolong the misery, prolong the agony. and that's the message really that our leaders need to send. in terms of president obama there's no doubt that he expressed what he believes and he knew it would get out on this and other subjects, he was trying to -- this was a call of his former staffers and administration people and he was really -- it was a call to arms essentially to tell them get into this campaign, support vice president biden, and he was exhorting them and he was using examples as to why this election was so important. i suspect we'll be hearing more of that as the election

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the united states and all around the world. i'm michael holmes. you're watching "cnn newsroom." now, on saturday johns hopkins figures showed the number of coronavirus cases around the world topped 4 million. the country with far and away the most cases remains the united states. with just about 4% of the world's population, it has a third of the cases. 1.3 million. and more states are taking steps to emerge from their lockdowns. in fact, almost every u.s. state will be back in business by monday to at least some extent. in los angeles golfers finally allowed to hit the course this weekend, wearing masks of course. as u.s. balances opening back up with staying safe, the pandemic hitting close to home for some of the most prominent doctors working on the crisis. cnn's jeremy diamond with that. >> reporter: well, three top doctors on the white house's coronavirus task force are now

going to be teleworking, working from home, carrying out some form of self-quarantine for the next two weeks after coming into contact with somebody at the white house who tested positive for coronavirus in just the last week. that is dr. robert redfield, the head of the centers for disease control, dr. stephen hahn, the head of the food and drug administration, as well as dr. anthony fauci, who has of course become one of the most public faces of this white house response to the coronavirus. all of them announcing that they will be working from home for the next two weeks carrying out some form of self-quarantine. dr. anthony fauci telling our colleague jake tapper that he will be undergoing a, quote, modified quarantine for the next 14 days working from home, wearing a mask at all times of the day. though he does note that if he is called to the white house or capitol hill he will go but will take every precaution necessary. a similar message that we are hearing from a spokesperson for

the cdc saying that dr. redfield would go to the white house if he had to fulfill any responsibilities with regards to his role there but that he would be wearing a mask. but of course very notable that we're seeing these three top medical experts on this coronavirus task force, all of which undergoing some form of self-quarantine. what we have not seen, though, is a kind of unified centralized approach from the white house as to how to deal with this. earlier this week white house spokeswoman katie miller, the vice president's spokeswoman, she tested positive just on friday and a couple days before that we saw one of the president's personal valets, a navy official, also testing positive. but again, no clear message from the white house on whether any individual coming into contact with them should go into self-quarantine. instead it seems we're learning about this really on much more of a piecemeal basis. but what is clear, though, is as the country begins to reopen, as many workers are being asked to come back to work with far less

stringent procedures, even here at the white house where there are the most strict protocols, officials coming into contact with the president now being tested daily, temperature checks being conducted for anybody coming onto the white house grounds, even here the coronavirus is seeping in. jeremy diamond, cnn, the white house. >> worth noting now that members of the u.s. secret service, the people who protect the president, were seen wearing masks on saturday. they weren't wearing masks the day before. i'll show you some images now. you can see a man there on the far left of that photograph. this is the cabinet room on saturday. a source telling us that 11 secret service personnel have tested positive for covid-19. well, it was believed that children are at less risk from coronavirus than adults are. but a mystery illness that could be related to it has made dozens

of kids sick, left three of them dead. we'll have details on that after the break. ♪

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come in who don't present the symptoms that we normally are familiar with with covid. it's not a respiratory illness. they're not in respiratory distress. but the illness has taken the lives of three young new yorkers. so this is new. and it's developing. >> reporter: these hospitalizations are certainly getting the attention of health professionals not just here in new york but also across the country, especially since from the very beginning we had heard that it was perhaps some of the younger people who were possibly not as vulnerable to this illness. but now this new information that's being released by the governor, by governor andrew cuomo, suggesting otherwise. we should finally mention that the cdc is working with the state of new york. their main goal here is to try to develop some kind of criteria that would be applied across the country as they continue to look into these illnesses. reporting in new york, i'm polo

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welcome back to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. i'm michael holmes. you're watching "cnn newsroom." more than 4 million people around the world have been confirmed with coronavirus. that mark crossed on saturday, as reported by johns hopkins university. that's 1 million new cases in less than two weeks.

nearly 280,000 people have now died. saturday the top three health experts leading america's response put themselves in quarantine over fears they were exposed to the virus. this after revelations that two people close to the president and vice president tested positive. now, as we heard, new york officials now say an inflammatory illness possibly linked to covid-19 has killed two young children and a teenager. and joining me now from new york is kent sepkowitz. he's a cnn medical analyst and deputy stigs in chief at memorial sloan-kettering. good to have you back, doctor. always a lot to talk about. now, multiple times in recent weeks the president has downplayed the need for widespread testing. and yet here we are with what is really a cluster at the white house. the vice president's press secretary, her husband is close to the president. a valet close to the president. secret service agents. so on. you've got the head of the cdc,

the fda, dr. anthony fauci, all quarantining. and you know, most of these cases of course wouldn't have happened without testing because most were asymptomatic. what do you say about the president downplaying the need for testing when you look at what's happening? >> i think that testing is only part of the strategy to keep people safe. if you don't wear masks and you don't socially distance, you can test all you want to but you're not going to prevent anything. you will detect it sooner and you can adjust according to that. but this shows to me that without social distancing, masking and discipline you can't control it. >> i guess too the white house, the other interesting thing, they're using the abbott test, which is quick but it's got a 15% rate of giving a negative result when someone is actually positive. i mean, is that a concern about how testing is being handled

there? people could be walking around positive when they've got a negative test. >> i was quite shocked that that's the product that they're using given the 15%-ish false negative rate. and that's people who are truly positive are reading as negative 15% of the time. you know, it's a decision that certainly needs to be looked at again. no test is perfect, though. and that's another reason that you can't just test. you have to also do the less scientific approaches like social distancing, masks, common sense. >> doctor, with 1.3 million cases the u.s. is 5% of the population and 33% of the sick people. i think globally the average death rate is 34 people per million. in the u.s. it's 232 per million. what's gone wrong? >> just about everything i would

say. i think that with any pandemic the first month or so, six weeks, is going to look pretty clumsy. things are not going to go perfectly. but i think after that there is going to be placed on the decision makers. i don't think there's ever been a decision that seemed like it came based from public health necessity. i think we're having the same conversations today, may 9th, 10th, as we were on march 9th and 10th. >> yet we have this push to reopen. and when it comes to that move to reopen in many u.s. states and other countries around the world, the thing about this virus is we're not going to immediately know the results of that. we're going to be continually looking at lagging data, right? today we're seeing the results of what, two or three weeks ago. >> yeah. because we aren't testing actively. a very sobering quick report out

of south korea today about a bar that they had reopened. they found 40, four zero, secondary cases from an infected person who was at that bar. they've closed again all the bars in south korea. and they were able to get at it not waiting for everyone to get sick and show up for diagnosis but by testing immediately. so the only way you can reopen safely or moderately safely is to have a very aggressive testing program, which we don't have. >> yeah, absolutely. and this is an administration, too, that sort of ignores its own opening requirements in the u.s. states being urged to reopen when they've not even met the administration's own guidelines. and the administration shelving guidelines written by the cdc. the mixed messaging is stunning really. it seems to be a recipe for disaster. >> yeah. i think that the recent reports

about kids getting very sick from this virus might change the hurry up and get back to open business tone. i think that we act tough when it's us but when it's our 5-year-old who might get sick because i need a haircut, i think people might change their decision-making some. that might be optimistic. but i think this is an enormously sad but important and -- development with the kids and something that might alter the debate somewhat. >> talk about that for a minute from a medical standpoint. you've got -- and just for background, in new york they're investigating the deaths of three kids with what could be they fear a coronavirus-related inflammatory syndrome, kawasaki-like condition. you can tell us how that is. it just goes to show we don't know what this thing really is. >> it keeps throwing us

curveballs. yeah, this syndrome is very perplexing. it is associated in most of the cases but not all with corona infection, with covid. the syndrome itself is one of too much inflammation. if i get an infection, i need thch inflammation to normally control it. and that's a ghing. once in a while people get this much inflammation. the whole program goes haywire. and the immune system starts to attack the person himself with the infection. that's what we're seeing. a particularly ominous problem with this syndrome and with kawasaki is not that it attacks here, there and wherever but that it actually attacks the arteries that feed the heart, the coronary arteries. so 5-year-old kids can have heart attacks.

it's just as devastating a disease as you can imagine. >> it shows how much we've yet to know about what this virus can do and also what the long-term effects on even survivors is. dr. kent sepkowitz, thank you so much. really appreciate your expertise. >> thank you, mike. we'll take a quick break. when we come back, coronavirus surging behind bars. we talked to a former prison doctor on what measures need to be taken and why some prisoners are leaving early. we'll be right back. i love my house. it's just home and i love it. for over 25 years, home instead has helped seniors stay home. now, staying home isn't just staying in the place they love. it's staying safe. it's essential. if your loved one needs in-home care, we're here to help. home instead. to us, it's personal.

welcome back. prisons are quickly becoming hot spots in the spread of coronavirus. thousands of prisoners in both state and federal facilities have tested positive. more than 800 inmates testing positive at just one california prison complex. as did more than two dozen staff members. in ohio more than 1 in 5 cases

of positive coronavirus in the state are inmates. and have a look at these signs put in windows of the cook county jail. this is in chicago. inmates saying "we matter too" and "save us" as the virus spreads. now, back in april chicago's biggest jail released almost a fourth of its population over coronavirus fears. the focus on releasing those awaiting trial and low-level non-violent offenders. and joining us now from new york is dr. homer ventis. he is a former chief medical officer for the new york city jail system. the perfect person for this issue. dr. ventis, you're also the author of "life and death in rikers island," which is rather prescient when you talk about these sorts of issues. there has been a lot of talk about hot spots in meatpacking plants, cruiseships, that sort of thing, but boy oh boy, prisons have become a major issue because of close quarters.

i've read of two stilts, in ohio and california, where 70% of the inmate population tested positive. how serious is this issue in american jails? >> well, this is a grave issue. and it's a life-threatening issue for people who are incarcerated, who are dying. but it's also incredibly important for the nation as a whole. we have 5,000 jails and prisons in this country. those places are going to drive the outbreak herd straight up for the entire nation. as well as as you just referenced really place the lives in jeopardy of the people who are incarcerated there, the detained people and the staff. >> as you said you wrote a boo about health issues at correctional facilities, "life and death in rikers island." so you've been worried p this issue well before coronavirus. what's not in a prison in terms of facilities and supplies to stem off something like coronavirus? i mean, basic precautions like social distancing is just

impossible, obviously. >> well, two of the things that are in shorter supply are evidence-based practices and transparency. so we have spent decades in this country creating these silos around jails and prisons. so the health care in most of these places is grocery deficient. and we don't know when bad outcomes occur. so when something like coronavirus hits, we can't just copy and paste our community standards of care onto these places because the people who provide care, the people who are held there, who are incarcerated, have not had access to evidence-based care before. and so you're right that the congregant settings, the close quarters create a firestorm for this virus in particular. but it's also important to note that the groups like the cdc and our state departments of health have been essentially awol from these places for many, many years. and so we have a lot of ground to cover just to get to bare bones basics of being able to wash hands with soap and water

and paper towels, let alone figure out who's sick, who needs tests and who needs to go to the hospital. >> i think i read that you wrote about how, when you mentioned the cdc and major health authorities that look after people in society, it's not the case in prisons. often it's the local sheriff who's deciding what can be life and death issues of health care. >> that's right. and to be fair to sheriffs and commissioners of correction, they're not doctors, they're not health administrators, but yet we've given them these critical jobs and often not the resources to do those jobs. but the groups that decide the quality of your sxcare and my ce out in the community, they're essentially absent from these places and have been for many years. >> reporter: of course one of the major issues is just how many people are incarcerated in america. in american jails more people per capita than any other country in the world.

what would you see as immediate possible moves in this current crisis? what sort of moves can be done? things like releasing non-violent minor crime inmates. what would you recommend? >> sure. i think the first step is to release people. they can be released from jails, prisons and i.c.e. detention settings because first of all there are very, very high-risk folks behind bars, people with health problems that we know if they become infected with covid-19 have a much higher risk of dying. secondly, in order to manage the outbreak behind bars, the facilities need space to move people around, to separate the sick people from the well people. facilities can't do that basic job if they're at 100% or even probably 75% capacity. so release is job one. not just to save the lives of high-risk people but to allow for effective management of the outbreak inside the facility. >> there are people who will say

hey, they're in prison, they're there for a reason, they don't impact me. but of course staff in these prisons have been heavily impacted as well. they go home, go back into communities. what sort of attitudes would you like to see changed? >> well, you're right. many of the people who have become infected with covid-19 and who have died behind bars are our staff, correctional staff. but it's also important to remember that when people get sick behind bars they go to local hospitals when they -- should go to local hospitals when they need a higher level of care. this virus spreads like wildfire when it gets behind bars. we've seen already in multiple places around the country one single jail or prison can completely overwhelm a local hospital. so that's exactly the opposite of flattening the curve. when the rest of us are trying to engage in social distancing and doing -- taking all these measures to flatten that curve, just one facility can completely overwhelm a local hospital. that is something that impacts

everybody in the community. >> and just finally, speak to policy changes that are needed for infectious diseases. covid-19 has highlighted some of these institutionalized issues. what needs to change after this as well? >> sure. right now we have some fleeting attention from the cdc, state departments of health, other health structures that we think are evidence-based. behind bars. thinking about covid-19. those organizations need to stay. they need to help us improve the quality of care but also the transparency of how service is behind bars. going forward not just for covid-19. >> dr. homer venters, great to have you on. and your insights into this, it's a very important issue in the u.s. thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. when we come back, a musical legend has died. ♪ good golly miss molly he gave us rock and roll, gospel, even a little bit of

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. it's hard to imagine what music might be like today without little richard, the flamboyant singer died saturday at age 87. his former agent said he had bone cancer. there was simply no one like little richard. as george howell tell us, he revolutionized rock 'n roll but just wanted to have some fun tonight. >> reporter: little richard changed the course of rock 'n roll history with that iconic song. he sang "tutti frutti" with no inhibition and it became a hit. the singer who inspired the evolution of rock 'n roll was born richard wayne penniman in macon, georgia in 1932. he signed with speciality

records in 1955 and began his journey to becoming a rock 'n roll icon. ♪ good golly ms. molly >> reporter: during the '50s, he made several other songs, including good golly miss sally and "lucille." he landed a part in the musical comedy "the girl can't help it" in 1956. his flamboyant persona captivated audiences, and his piercing screams made him a household name. however, at the height of his stardom, the self-proclaimed architect of rock 'n roll quit the music business and became an ordained minister and traveled across the country as an evangelist and recorded gospel music between 1959 and 1963.

>> i went through those different periods, but i've always loved rock 'n roll. >> reporter: during the late '60s and '70s he began recording rock 'n roll again, his influence on many unknown artists at the time proved to be invaluable. >> beatles were with me. jimi hendrix was my guitar player. >> reporter: for a period of time, little richard lived the wildlife wild as many as life life of a . he was involved in a car accident and thanked god for saving his life. >> to have god, oh, glory to god. >> reporter: he experienced a career resurgence in the '80s after landing a coveted role in "down-and-out in beverly hills", then he was inducted into the

rock 'n roll hall of fame in 1986. >> i'm glad to be in cleveland, i'm glad that i'm the architect of rock 'n roll, i'm glad that god through his mercy has seen fit for me to still be here. >> reporter: in 1993, the national academy of recording arts and sciences awarded the fiery performer with the lifetime achievement award. he performed well into his twilight years. >> true legend. thanks for your company this hour, i'm michael holmes, do stay with us. i'll be back with more "cnn newsroom" in just a few minutes. ♪ good golly miss molly ♪ woo ♪ ♪ st visionworks locations are

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