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deg de dishes from her homeland and talk politics. may your loved ones rest in peace and may their memories be a blessing. erin burnett out front starts right now. out front next the president declares the united states has prevailed on testing, saying again that anyone who wants a test can get a test. but health experts say that is just not true, and the united states is not where it needs to be to fully reopen. plus coronavirus in the white house. the scramble to contain the spread and a new policy mandating mask, but why isn't the president wearing one? and the government loan program supposed to be a financial lifeline. many, though, in the restaurant industry say it is failing. let's go out front. and good evening. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight trump's mission accomplished. the president claiming victory
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when it comes to testing in the united states. >> we have met the moment, and we have prevailed. >> well, in fact the president is saying the united states is only conducting 300,000 tests a day. the director of the harvard global health institute with a very conservative estimate says the united states needs to be at at least 900,000 tests a day this week. especially considering that a lot of people right now who are even able to get a test have symptoms. they're symptomatic. something president trump pointed out himself today. >> if people want to get tested they get tested. but for the most part they shouldn't want to get tested. there's no reason. they don't have sniffles, sore throats. they don't have any problem. >> the problem, of course, isn't just the united states is far short of the tests needed despite recent improvements on testing. it's the people that do not have
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symptoms can have and spread coronavirus. first of all we do know that many people are most contagious before they have symptoms at all. even if you're going to be symptomatic it's before you have the symptoms you're the most contagious, in other words there will be no sniffles and sore throat. and by trump's sniffle and sore throat logic katie miller would not qualify for a test but she got one daily because of who she worked for. one day negative, the next positive. her husband steven miller is in close proximity to president trump. but by president trump's logic katie miller would not have gotten a test not if she was an ordinary american being told to go back to work because no sniffles, no sore throat, no symptoms. as trump's own testing chief made clear at the same testing conference today. >> so the cdc guidelines really says if you're in close contact just testing negative on that
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one day doesn't mean you won't be. later on. >> even on the same day, right, you could be negative when you're tested and that could change. it could change at any time which is why as the president says america needs to go back to work sending many millions back into workplaces, this is clearly not true. >> as far as americans getting a test they should all be able to get a test right now, and they should be able to get a test. if somebody wants to be tested right now they'll be able to be tested. >> kaitlin collins is out front live at the white house. and the president abruptly ended the briefing as you were up, what happened? >> he did not let me ask a question after he pointed to me and called on me, something he noted after the fact because i let my colleague from cbs continue asking her question, which she had asked the president a variation of why was he talking about what ranking the united states was, why was that important to him given the
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fact we are at 80,000 deaths here in the united states and clearly more americans are still getting coronavirus every day. and he told her she needed to ask china that question, and of course we did ask because she is an asian-american reporter and that is why he was asking her that question, and he abruptly stormed out of the press conference. he did not take any other questions, he left and went back into the oval office. and this comes, of course, as the main conference take away is they wanted it to be about testing. that is what the president was trying to talk about, talk about how they ramped up their efforts. he made some misleading comparisons talking about the united states and south korea saying we are doing more than south korea. of course the populations a lot more differently. south korea did a lot more vigorous testing early on and they flattened their curve. today is the marker that we hit. and also the questions that are facing the president are about what is he doing given the fact that two people tested positive here last week, two people who often work on white house grounds and are often in the
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west wing. and you saw one of his top economic advisers yesterday saying he believes it's scary to come into work given the fact they could be exposed and they're still trying to work on that contact tracing, trying to contain that outbreak. and that all comes as there's a new change at the white house which is that staffers are all wearing masks. they issued a directive telling staffers if you're coming into the west wing you need to be covering your face. that was not the policy be. but the question is the president and vice president going to follow that guidance, and judging from the president's appearance in the rose garden he is not. because everyone else is wearing one including his health and huge service secretary alex azar, so it's not clear if he's going to follow that policy going forward. but a lot of questions we had for the president he did answer any of those from us at least before he left that press conference at the rose garden. >> thank you very much. and i want to go now to the
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doctors. i was referencing your numbers and you have been at the forefront of testing capabilities in america. so what do you say to the president who talking about 300,000 tests a day number which is an improvement of course from where we were says anyone in the united states who wants a test can now get one? >> erin, thanks for having me on. look, the reality is that's not the experience of most americans. doctors and nurses, you know, trying to order tests still finding in many places that's not possible, you can't get tests for people who have symptoms. and a lot of people who will need a test because they might work in a high risk environment can't get a test. so the reality on the ground is that many people who need a test can't get one today, and until they can get one it's really dangerous to try to open up our economy and tell everybody they can just go back to work as though there wasn't a major outbreak out there. >> right, and of course to the point we made about miller, sanjay, she was being tested
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every day just as a condition of going to her job which many people on the front lines in this country should also have that. because she was getting that one day negative, positive the next that's how it happens. and the president now says that all americans will be able to be tested daily very soon. here he is. >> when will it be that americans across the country will be able to get tested every day as they go back to work? >> very soon. i mean very soon. >> sanjay, to make the obvious point here there were about 150-ish million americans who work. obviously you've had huge job loss, obviously some can work from home. say that number is 100 million people. we're not anywhere chose. >> no, we're not anywhere close. i think it's very interesting people look at the white house and say, you know, this is how they're approaching this, certain people are being tested every day in order to try and give people a sense of safety. you know, it's not perfect by any means because as you pointed
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out people can be completely asymptomatic may test positive one day and negative the next day, and so it's not a fail safe by any means but we're nowhere close to giving people that sort of confidence even physically or psychologically, erin, that they don't have the virus that day, that the people around them they're about to come in contact at their place of work has the virus. i think that's what we're going to need to some extent. it looks like a lot more testing than we have now, and i don't think it's important to compare this to other countries either. we have have look at what we're able to do now and the impact will be in this country. we're not too close to it which is too bad because this is one of the many issues we could have tackled earlier and probably had a much bigger impact on. >> the point sanjay was making the president did bring up south korea and now saying we're at two times more tests per capita than south korea, so adjusted for population. however, you have a few hundred
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degs there, you have 80,000 deaths and it's going to go significantly higher than that in this country. sure, they had a guy go to a nightclub last week but they happen able to point out every single contact he seemed to have made in that time. what is it that went so dramatically different between the u.s. and south korea, because it isn't just testing, is it the timing of that testing or something else? >> yeah, so south korea jumped on this very early. so they had a lot of testing up front running by february and march. so, yes, we've done twice as much testing per capita. our outbreak is 20 times bigger per capita than south korea. so we let this get ahead of us, and we have a lot more cases in the united states. and so we actually just need a lot more testing to try to catch up. and as you said, erin, testing is really, really important. it's one part of the strat aemg. a second part is tracing, identifying who you've been in contact with and of course isolation, making sure the people who have tested positive or have been in contact with
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people who tested positive are isolated so they don't infect other people. it's a comprehensive approach that has let south korea basically keep their society open. the fact they have nightclubs that are even open is a testament to what they've been able to do which america has not because of our testing failures. >> so, sanjay, because of our failures, a key coronavirus model often cited by the white house now predicts 130,000 deaths in the u.s. by august. at one point they were citing you know 74,000. these numbers have gone dramatically upwards almost doubling. why? >> a lot of it just because of the increased mobility now of people. i mean, as these -- even as these starts started to reopen according to the modelers, chris marino's team in washington started to see increased mobility. they were looking at cellphone data that was anonymous and trying to calculate movement and ability that way.
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it's interesting a lot of people when you look at the polling will say despite the fact states are reopening i'm going to stay at home. but mobility is going up. as they get more data points, these models are fed by these inputs, and it worries me. i think the numbers are still low. remember, erin, at one point they were saying 70,000 by the end of august. we're middle of may right now and 80,000 people. it's horrific and i think sadly the numbers they're projecting is still even low if you look at how things are going, and the numbers are likely to get worse with these states reopening. >> and dr. jha, this comes as -- and i know testing is just one part of it but if you're going to put people back to work you need all sorts of testing and today the president was saying, you know, anyone who can get a test can get one, and we're very close to everyone being able to get one. false, but it's a totally view on testing than what he said
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last week. here he is last week on tuesday, wednesday, thursday and friday. >> i don't think you need that kind of testing or that much testing. >> i have always said testing is somewhat overrated. we have the best testing in the world but testing is not necessarily the answer. if we did very little testing we wouldn't have the most cases. so in a way by doing all this testing we make ourselves look bad. >> what do you say to that, dr. jha? >> well, what i would say is you shouldn't listen to the president, shouldn't listen to me, you should look at the action. when the president was worried about the safety of the oval office, which he should be and we should all be. we've got to keep that place protected. what they did is they started testing people every day. so words are fine. he can say we don't need more testing, with it doesn't matter. the action of the white house are they are testing all their employees every day, and that's how they're trying to keep the
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president safe. and i'm interested in keeping all americans safe. and i don't think we need to be testing every day but we clearly need to be testing a lot more people. >> and the fda has granted its first use for an antigen test. and dr. birx had said we needed a break through at that sort of a level. she specifically mentioned antigen testing when she spoke about a week ago. how significant is this new test? is it sort of a break through capability? >> these antigen tests could be very important because they're easier to perform than the standard diagnostic test which is genetic test earplug has to go to a lab or done by some of these machines it's just more complicated. people may be familiar with the strep test, that's the way to sort of think about this. it's an easier test. the problem is they've got to be accurate. had this is real concern the accuracy of these tests. even with the abbott lab tests which is rab up udtest in some
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of the studies they showed a 15% false negative rate. 15% of people who thought they didn't have the virus had the virus. but the antigen testing they've traditionally had high fault rates as well. it's a great idea to have a high antigen test because it's very quick, make it much more available but i'd like to see the accuracy of that test. it's got to be very, very high. >> certainly the use white house using antibiotic t test with 15% false negative we can all on a clear level see what a big issue that is. thank you so much. and next the white house now requiring anyone in the west wing to wear a mask. okay. why did it take 38 days for me to give you that headline when 38 days ago is when the white house said that's what all of america should do? and kentucky announces a 10-year-old boy is in critical condition with coronavirus. this is rare condition with kids linked to coronavirus and china
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katie miller became infected with coronavirus. and while some who had contact with her are self-quarantining the vice president was back at the white house this morning. let me show you this. it's a little difficult to see but there he is. you can see he's not wearing a mask and does not appear to be social distancing from the people with him who obviously are not wearing masks either. this on the same day at the white house finally decided to take its own advice and require staffers entering the west wing to wear a mask. i say finally because it is 38 days after the cdc asked all americans to wear a face mask. especially if they've come into contact with someone who tested positive for the virus. so 38 days after that and the vice president's been in contact with someone who has the virus. in fact, there are now two people working inside the white house who have tested positive in the past week. out front now dr. jonathan riner. he advised the medical team currently director of the cardiac cath lab.
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so white house officials now being asked to wear masks except when they're at their desks. we saw the president though and the press corp wore masks and he did not. and two people tested positive and you could not have the virus in the morning and you could have it in the afternoon. show what do you say to this? could more people in the white house be infected? >> more people in the white house almost certainly are infected. look, i think from the outset the white house didn't like the optics of people around the president or the president himself for that matter wearing a mask. they were -- at the outset they were trying to down-play the significance of the virus in this country, and everyone wearing masks would seem to have countered that. but viruses don't really care about optics. and one of the principle methods that countries that have been successful in putting down a
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pandemic, places like hong kong and china and south korea, one of the key tools,sary simple tools they used from the outset was universal mask wearing. masks prevent or sharply decrease the ability for people to transmit the virus particularly asymptomatic people to other people. it's a key tool. it's what we use in the hospital. i put a mask on before i leave my car, and it doesn't matter if anyone's around me. i wear it. i want to set an example, and i want to see that from the white house. >> so, you know, to that point we saw vice president pence, and of course this is his press secretary who has now tested positive, so he was choosing to not self-quarantine, which, okay, he could choose to do that. but he's not wearing a mask, and neither is the aide who's with him, also not wearing a mask. and as we pointed out the president didn't wear one at the presser or he did stand separately. he had his own podium. when the president was asked about peel wearing masks today i
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wanted to play for you, dr. rhiner, what he said. >> well, they're a certain distance from me or a certain distance from each other they do. in the case of me i'm not close to anybody. i'd like to be close to these two gentlemen. they're hardworking great men, but they just said, frankly, let's keep it this way. so obviously in my case i'm very far away from everyone. >> is he taking this seriously enough? >> well, he's taking it in the wrong way. there are two reasons to -- for the people in the white house to wear masks. one is to protect the president. but that's only one of the reasons. the bigger reason is to protect everyone else in the compound from contracting the virus. but the president only thinks of that as how he can be protected from getting the virus. if i was part of the white house medical staff i would tell him
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something very simple. if he and the vice president both contract this disease at the same time and they were both sick nancy pelosi will be president. he needs to understand the stakes here are very, very high. >> put it in terms he cares about. >> right. >> i want to show you a video we just got in, dr. rhiner, from the vice president event in iowa. this is on friday. food industry executives removing their masks just before pence's arrival. a source says she told the attendees they could remove their masks since everyone was 6 feet apart. this video from the des moines register where, and obviously this was the day the vice president found out his secretary had coronavirus. is this good advice? >> no, it's horrible advice. there was a piece in the federalist today that suggested
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that the president or the vice president wearing a mask would be a sign of weakness. how insulting. how insulting for the heroes who spent every day working wearing a mask. i think when you wear a mask you're showing that you care about your community, that you care about trying to put this virus down. wearing a mask is not a sign of weakness. it's a sign of incredible strength, and i want to see that message propagated by our leaders. >> dr. rhiner, thank you. and i want to go now to david gergen, our senior political analyst who advised four presidents. the president today taking some questions after talking about testing and the white house is now frantically trying to figure out how the vice president's secretary got coronavirus. there was the testing part, she was getting that, but then there's the contact tracing part, and obviously they're really scrambling on that. as someone who's advised four
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administrations, what would you tell this one? >> you're sending out very confusing messages, mr. president. we just saw your clips, erin, day after day after day he's saying testing is not important. now when he's got five people in the white house, two of whom have tested positive, three of whom are in self-quarantine, he said suddenly they test everybody. and they're also requiring everybody in the white house to wear masks. so first he confuses people about the test and now on the mask no one has to wear a mask except one person, and that's donald trump which sends a signal they don't have it straight. i just theest problem here, erin is there is no strategy. if you're going to fight a war and you're going to go all out you have to have a plan for victory and there's no plan here for victory. it's all based on hope. and as the military says hope is not a strategy. i think that's causing a crisis of confidence in the country.
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people do not want to go back to restaurants or get on airplanes or do a lot of things they used to do regularly in the past until they have confidence they're not going to come down with this virus. we're flauts going to get this economy back until we have a strategy, we have a commander in chief who persuades the country to follow that strategy. >> here's what he said to that. >> obamagate, it's been going on for a long time, before i got elected and it's a disgrace. >> what exactly is the crime you're accusing him of? >> you know the crime. the crime is obvious to everybody. all you have to do is read the newspapers except yours. >> obviously not making an accusation. what is he doing here?
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>> he's just stretching it. he was on twitter much of the weekend just with a lot of nasty stuff. and i think he's gotten into a childish place as he showed with kaitlin collins in that press conference, that it's just -- you cannot lead the country, you can't lead the world unless people think you're stable, that you're an adult, that you're thoughtful and that you're honest. and we're just not seeing that. and it goes on and on and on. >> you mentioned the exchange of kaitlin collins and that is how the briefing ended with a heated exchange of a cbs news reporter who is chinese-american. let me play the clip. >> why is this a global competition to you if every day americans are still losing their lives and we're still seeing more cases every day? >> well, they're losing their lives everywhere in the world, and maybe that's a question you should ask china.
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don't ask me. ask china that question, okay? when you ask them that question you may get a very unusual answer. >> sir, when i saying that specifically to me? >> i'm teing yolling you -- any else. you in the back go ahead. no, that's okay. >> maybe they should go back to not having press conferences. when he's unleashed as i say it's childish and increases the crisis of confidence. people need to know we have a stable, competent group of people in the white house and they're not making it up to day and not sitting around trying to figure out how do we stop him from doing this or saying that today. i think of course he saw an asian-american woman, he must have known she came from one of the networks and he saw her and
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what did he think, china. it just triggered him because he wants to make china the punching bag. he's found them as one of had scapegoats, obama is a scapegoat. but it's not helping the country. >> all right, david gergen, thank you very much. i appreciate it. and next the president says the administration is now investigating a serious illness that could be linked to coronavirus that has left at least three children dead. plus as more states reopen what do restaurants need to do to keep people safe? celebrity chef tom kalikio is my best. like, quitting every monday hard. quitting feels so big. so try making it smaller, and you'll be surprised at how easily starting small can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette. many of life's moments in thare being put on hold. are staying at home, starting small can lead to something big. at carvana, we understand that, for some, getting a car just can't wait. to help, we're giving our customers up to 90 days to make their first payment.
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new tonight another case of the mysterious illness in children possibly related to coronavirus now reported in kentucky. that on top of 100 suspected cases in new york, and president trump tonight saying his administration is looking into the rare condition. all of it comes as parts of the new york will reopen friday as the number of coronavirus deaths reported in a single day fell below 200. nick watt is out front. >> reporter: today in kentucky horses are training again. they'll race this weekend but
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with no one watching. 48 states in all now on the road to reopen this week, friday in new york our epicenter -- >> this is the next big step in this historic journey. >> reporter: landscaping, tennis, drive-in movies and the like will be allowed statewide, and a regional phased reopening will begin. >> you are going to increase activity depending on how intelligently you increase activity will be the possible effect on the spread of the virus. >> reporter: the projected death toll does tick up as we reopen, according to that well-known university of washington model. it's now over 137,000 by early august. >> as people started moving second week of april, which of course will increase the circulation circulation of the virus and unfortunately number of deaths. >> reporter: in arizona the number of reported degs near
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tripled. today restaurants can reopen across the state for dine-in. in florida projected deaths just jumped a third. today hair and nail salons can open across that state, and restaurants and retail reopen with limited capacity in hard hit palm beach. >> the lack of adequate testing, i think, along with reopening and people getting together more just projects a pretty grim outlook over the summer. >> reporter: look at this. a packed mother's day at a colorado restaurant and a new york to san francisco flight packed full, tweeted by a doctor flying home after helping fight the virus. >> now we're worrying about we have 93 cases we're investigate of young chirp who have covid-related diseases. >> reporter: for most kids covid-191 mild, but we're now discovering that for a small minority there might be a toxic shock-like reaction. for juliette daily, her heart
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stopped beating properly. >> mom told me what was happening and it was pretty hard to comprehend. >> reporter: three have died already in new york. the challenge ahead reopen and stay safe. >> we believe we can do two things at once. the coronavirus is going to be with us throughout the rest of the year. we need to learn to live with it. >> reporter: one ohio restaurant prepping for its reopening still ten days away hanging shower curtains between tables. so connecticut and massachusetts the only states holding out. they haven't published reopening plans yet. california opened the door a little on friday, but lax still looking pretty quiet. masks, by the way, mandatory inside the terminal. they say even if it's a towel or t-shirt, rubber bands around your ears just do it. finally erin, here is an eye
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popping headline. four gumps haovernments asking trillion in relief and even that they say won't be enough. >> these numbers are really scary when you look across the country what it's going to mean, and it's money needless to say we simply don't have. thank you very much. and out front now the chief of pediatric critical care at cohen medical center is dr. james snider. i appreciate your time. how many cases of this mysterious illness have you seen at your hospital, and what are the symptoms? >> well, thanks for having me, erin. in our hospital we've actually had quite a few. since the beginning we've had close to 40 cases so far in the hospital and the majority have been in the intensive care unit. most kids they're presenting with a typical story of never
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having had symptoms of typical covid related infections like cough and fever, but they're showing up with persistent fever three or four days perhaps as well as gas trow intestinal symptoms so belly pains, vomiting, diarrhea. there are others that kind of look like this kawasaki disease we've been talking about which the includes some rash, maybe some red injected eyes, red lips, things of that nature. >> so why do you think we're now hearing about this, right? because now we're hearing about it and in several places. we didn't hear about it in april. we didn't hear about it in march. why now? >> well, this is a brand new disease for us, and so we're still learning a lot as a community. what wethink is going on we're seeing a post infectious inflammatory reaction to a previous infection. meaning kids had infection early on in the course of corona's
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life here and if you imagine in new york we've only seen corona for about 6, 7 weeks now. and kids who get infected early on a few weeks later as their bodies responded to this infection it's leading to an increased immune response and causing the symptoms we're seeing. >> so basically you're saying these are children who it seems had coronavirus, maybe even asymptomaticical asymptom atly and no one even knew. this is terrifying for lot of people but when things involve children people are deeply concerned. so how can a parent try to pick up a symptom earlier? i would imagine in all these cases the earlier you're able to get it the better the chance of a positive outcome. >> well, that's very true. time does matter. it's important to know this is not an asymptomatic disease where children have been sitting
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at home with this unknowingly. it's really now a matter of being aware on our part as a medical community and as caregivers when a child presents with these typical symptoms in our institution every child has a fever for at least 3 or 4 days and has these other symptoms. so they're quite ill appearing when they show up, so as soon as these symptoms are visible in a child seeing the pediatrician, getting evaluated is really, really important. and the sooner the better. >> dr. snider, thank you. and next celebrity chef tom kaulike yo colicchio is my guest. and new outbreaks reported as disneyland opens in shanghai.
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strong public schools make a better california for all of us. tonight the u.s. trashteasu secretary says the small business loan program is working great but admits the government will look at making fixes. this after business owners say
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the loans could stick them with even more debt. phil mattingly is out front. >> reporter: the government small business rescue program was designed as a treme lifeline for business owners. >> i actually think they did the right thing. >> reporter: but for some ravaged by the pandemic who owns a series of health clubs in massachusetts and utah it has become a nightmare. >> we're in a situation all of a sudden we find out we don't have the ability to spend 75% of what we got from the ppp. >> reporter: after a rocky rollout the program has kicked into gear. more than 4.2 million loans, more than $500 billion to save small businesses all of which can be forgiven if certain rules are followed, but those rules 75% of the funds must be used on payroll, 25% for things like rent or utilities and all within 8 weeks have become a dramatic problem with businesses like his still unable to open on states orders and many workers still
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making money from enhanced uninsurance employs. >> not only it doesn't help them out because if the business is not around they're not helped. >> reporter: the sba's own inspector general says, quote, tens of thousands of borrowers won't be able to have their loans forgiven because of the rules. >> i describe as this long gigantic pothole. >> reporter: mark harmon has watched not just his business but the restaurants it serves struggle with the programs rules. >> they're all decimated. they seriously are decimated, and the ppp loan while its intent was i think good it's not practical for what they do. >> reporter: harmon contacted tod yung with his concerns and young along with senator michael bennet have drafted proposals to
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try to address the issues. the question now, is it too late? >> what has happened with this kind of a -- the pandemic essentially it's catastrophic what it's doing to our industry. and it's going to be really, really hard to come back from if we're not saved. >> reporter: and erin, the reality is at this point in time there is bipartisan agreement that changes need to be made. there's just a recognition this crisis is far deeper than anybody expected. small business owners want to be able to use the money, want to be able to pay their employees, but they need more time to be able to do that. i think the big question outstanding when even if there's agreement, will changes be made? still negotiations ongoing on capitol hill right now, erin. >> and out front now tom colicchio celebrity chef and judge on the tv show "top chef." and whereby look, tom, you obviously are in the middle of this and you heard that food service company in phil's piece
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say the small business loan program is not working for small restaurants. you've got to use three quarters of the loan for payroll, on represent and what problems do you see with this? >> well, the big problem is that restaurants aren't open, and so i could bring my staff back now, i can pay them for the two months and i'm probably not going to be open for -- yeah, for the two months and i'll probably not be open and i'll have to lay them off again. and that's if they come back to work. what we really need to do is move this date of origin from where we got the loan to somewhere in the future. i spoke to senator schumer today and he has a plan to move it to december 31st. trying to address the inadequacies of ppp. if maybe 20% of your business is depressed and laid off a few workers this is great because you can hire those few workers back and you're only 20%
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depressed. that doesn't work for restaurants that don't open. >> right, you don't have revenue and you've got all these small restaurants rent, everything else you're dealing with. so you are part of a trade group i know, tom, that's been advocating on behalf of restaurants. you mention what you're talking about with senator schumer, but what would you do right now to help restaurants? is there something specific and very clear that could be done right now? >> we're advocating for a restaurant stabilization package, asking for $120 billion to give them some runway to stay open. what i'm concerned about is getting open is half the problem. staying open past two or three months number one if we open up we have to practice social distancing in the restaurant. we have waiters and bartenders with masks on, we're going to have to take out half our seats. so perhaps we'll do 20% to 30% of our business. opening up just to lose money
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doesn't make a whole lot of sense. >> a lot of restaurants i know, they're not going to be able to pay the rent with the amount of money they'd be getting in and never mind the twisted citrus reopened. hanging up clear shower curtains between the tables. of course, you've got social distancing. you know, what's it going to be like in a restaurant? there's the financial part you point out. you can't just open an restaurant and it won't work, the math won't work. there is a reason people go to a restaurant, a person like you creates the restaurant, which is the ambience, the noise, the togetherness without necessarily being together. that's the point. what's it going to be like in a restaurant? >> well, you're going to have waiters wearing masks, you'll smell disinfectant in the air. every time someone touches a door you have to have someone come behind them and clean it
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up. paper napkins, paper plates, shower curtains around the tables. perhaps if we open up, there is a sense of solidarity, we want to help the restaurants, people realize how ridiculous it is to eat in a public space that is not conducive to dining. and so, you know, i just don't see us getting past that 20 or 30% mark unless we have a vaccine and we're far off from that. listen, this is a hope and a prayer and it's one thing for the president to say, hey, let's start opening up businesses. it's another thing. it's not when we can open the business. it's when customers feel comfortable coming into that restaurant so they can be together. this just dupzaoesn't make sens me. in the long run you'll see restaurants close if they open up, and then they're going to close for good and those employees will be gone for good. we're talking about independent restaurants. we employ 11 million people. if you think about the supply chain, all the farmers and
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fishermen and cheese makers and winemakers, we're talking about 20 million people. so we have a ways to go. we need help. >> wow, all right. tom, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> as i said, chef tom. news out of china. one city going into, quote, wartime mode. there has been a surge of new cases. what is going on? we're live in shanghai. eds a cf- confident financial plans, calming financial plans, complete financial plans. they're all possible with a cfp® professional. find yours at letsmakeaplan.org. many of life's moments in thare being put on hold. are staying at home, at carvana, we understand that, for some, getting a car just can't wait. to help, we're giving our customers up to 90 days to make their first payment. shop online from the comfort of your couch, and get your car with touchless delivery to keep you safe. and for even greater peace of mind, all carvana cars come with a seven-day return policy.
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tonight china facing new coronavirus outbreaks. a city in the country's northeast going into, quote, wartime mode. more cases appearing, and wuhan where the virus started is seeing its first cases in a month. all of this as shanghai reopens disney today. the first time there since january. david culver is outfront. >> reporter: disney cast members lined the street to welcome guests back. reopening monday after 3 1/2 months, it closed as the novel
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coronavirus ravaged parts of chan. the latest government figures claim far fewer cases, particularly in shanghai. disney felt confident to reopen the gates, limiting admission to 30% kapcapacity or 34,000 guest. they said far fewer guests would be allowed initially. on day one cnn noticed a smaller crowd coupled with several new safety measures. >> we have cast members here monitoring the ques asking guests to maintain social distance at all times. >> reporter: senior vice president of operations says temperature screening starts before guests walk in. all visitors need to register online and book for a specific arrival time to keep from congregating. to enter you must have a green shanghai qr health code. that's the government's way to track potential exposures. inside the park reminder to keep your distance. yellow tape added to lines to attractions and restaurants.
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safe spaces for performances, this is one of the stages. look here on the crowd. pick a box. that's for you and your family unit will stand, keeping that distance. every other table blocked off to space out diners. after stepping off each ride you'll find a row of hand sanitizer stations. one thing that stands out to me is constant sanitation. >> yes. with he have a dedicated team of custodial cleaners that we've even increased the number of those in the park constantly wiping down all the surfaces. >> reporter: for now you can no longer hug mickey or minnie. a safe high five will have 0 to do along with a face mags being. to me it means the magic starts again, she tells me. but the joy here is not felt everywhere in china. as disney reopens in shanghai, a city in northeast china has gone into wartime mode, locking down
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to stop a recent spike in cases. and at the original epicenter of the outbreak, wuhan, after weeks without any new cases, the city has reported six over the past two days. dimming the festivities a bit at shanghai disneyland. they've tried to balance celebration with remembrance. creating tributes to front line health care workers. this a projection of gratitude. and behind me, erin, you can see just over my shoulder the iconic castle as they prepare to open the second day after the outbreak and having to be closed for that long period of time. it is a delicate balance between finding that celebratory mood and at the same time acknowledging the pain around the world. and perhaps, though, something for folks closer to where you are, yirerin, to look forward t on disney's site in particular, looking to book reservations for folks starting july 1st. it seems availability has now popped up. what we showed you happening here, though, including the face
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masks likely to be a part of the new disney experience where you are. >> all right. thank you very much. and thanks so much to all of you for joining us on this monday. anderson takes it over now. >> and good evening. today the president said in his rose garden news conference that we have met the moment and we prevailed. he said this on a day when we crossed a sickening and stunning milestone, 80,000 deaths in the united states. you may recall early in the pandemic there was an estimate that 80,000 of us would die in this country, but that wasn't projected to happen until early august. today is may 111th. more th more than 80,000 are dead. he was speaking of his administration as well, we prevailed. in other words, mission accomplished, or sure sounds like it. and sadly we know how that went. we have met the moment and we prevailed, the president says. prevailed, past tense, as in