masks likely to be a part of the new disney experience where you are. >> all right. thank you very much. and thanks so much to all of you for joining us on this monday. anderson takes it over now. >> and good evening. today the president said in his rose garden news conference that we have met the moment and we prevailed. he said this on a day when we crossed a sickening and stunning milestone, 80,000 deaths in the united states. you may recall early in the pandemic there was an estimate that 80,000 of us would die in this country, but that wasn't projected to happen until early august. today is may 111th. more th more than 80,000 are dead. he was speaking of his administration as well, we prevailed. in other words, mission accomplished, or sure sounds like it. and sadly we know how that went. we have met the moment and we prevailed, the president says. prevailed, past tense, as in it's already happened.

it's over. prevailed, as in we won. later the president said he was talking about prevailing on testing although he didn't say that at first. he also then later said, we're making great strides towards total victory. at the same time the president is saying, we prevailed, he is unable to articulate clear guidance for this country about testing and contact tracing and all the other elements to move forward. he subverted his own administration's guidelines. 48 states are partially reopened or making plans to do so, and many of them do not meet his administration's guidelines. the president doesn't seem to be too worried about that any more. instead his answers at a form at press briefing were first misleading, then insulting, then he left. the president once again repeated a line that became something of a sick joke a few weeks ago after he first said it on a visit to the cdc. anyone who wants a test can get a test, he said way back then. amazingly he repeated that lie again today and his own people had to correct him right in front of him.

his testing czar, admiral brett, corrected the president. anyone who needs a test can get one, the admiral said. then the president ignored that correction and repeated his lie once again. >> if people want to get tested, they get tested. for the most part they shouldn't want to get tested. there's no reason. >> no reason. keeping him honest. that's not true now and it has never been true. the president's statements about testing have been all over the place since this crisis began. >> we're testing everybody that we need to test. >> anybody that wants a test can get a test. >> we took over an obsolete broken testing system. >> there's not a lot of issues with testing. >> the governors are supposed to do testing. >> we are lapping the world on testing. >> we have so much testing, i don't think you need that kind of testing, that much testing. >> the notion that everyone needs to be tested is simply nonsensical. >> we've done more testing that every other country combined.

so in away by doing all this testing we make ourselves look bad. >> i've always said test sergio garcia somewhat overrated. something can happen between a test where it's good and something happens, all of a sudden -- >> this is why the whole concept of tests aren't necessarily great. but testing certainly is an important function and we have prevailed. >> we have prevailed. the president was also asked questions today about white house staff who have tested positive. two we know of to date, katy miller, the vice president's spoke woman and white house trump aide stephen miller. the white house trying to downplay that news. >> how can you ensure americans it's safe to go to their own workplaces when the most secure workplace in the country, the white house, cannot contain the spread of the coronavirus, it's infected some of your own staff? >> you say someone. we have a person, and the person got -- something happened right after a test was done.

three other people met that person, came into relative contact, very little contact, and they are self-quarantining. that is not exactly not controlling it. >> well, he can try to downplay it, but in a new policy announced today, all white house staff are being ordered to wear masks. in fact, you can see them on display at the rose garden event today. while any american who wants a test can't get one, the white house sure seems to be relying on testing when it comes to their own employees. now, of course, the president is downplaying these infections in the white house and the change in mask policy in the white house because it offers evidence that no workplace, not even the white house, is truly safe. it also points the need to adequate testing for employees to keep offices and businesses functioning. the most graceless moment of today's news conference, that' saying a lot. happened at the very end where a reporter from cbs tried to ask a reasonable question. the president not only shut her down suggesting the chinese american reporter ask her

question to china, he then refused a question from our reporter and shutdown the news conference in kind of a huff. >> you said many times the u.s. is doing far better than any other country when it comes to testing. >> yes. >> why does that matter? why is this a global competition to you if everyd day americans are losing their lives and we're seeing cases every day? >> they're losing their lives every day in the world. maybe that's a question you should ask china. don't ask me. ask china that question, okay. when you ask them that question, you may get a very unusual answer. yes, behind you, please. >> sir, why are you saying that to me specifically? >> i'm telling you. i'm not saying it specifically to anybody. i'm saying it to anybody who would ask a nasty question like that. >> it's not a nasty question. why does it matter? >> okay, anybody else? please, go ahead in the back, please. >> i have two questions. >> no, it's okay.

>> but you pointed to me. >> i have two questions. >> next, please. >> you called on me. >> i did, and you didn't respond. and now i'm calling on -- the young lady in the back. >> i wanted to let my colleague finish. >> ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much, appreciate it. thank you very much. >> join being me now is kaitlan collins who is the reporter you saw standing near the mic called on by the president and politely allowed the reporter to ask a follow-up question, which is standard practice, and then the president clearly in a huff left. kaitlan, exactly what happened there? the idea that, you know, the president is so flustered and that he flees a press conference because you are asking to ask a question when called on is kind of remarkable. >> reporter: yeah, i don't think i've ever been called on and then not allowed to ask a question after that just because i let another reporter follow-up which is as you noted standard

operating procedure for these briefings. that's the whole point of following up a question so the president can't avoid questions he doesn't like or doesn't want to answer by calling on another reporter. it was kind of quiet in the rose garden after the president turned around and left. there wasn't applause like there is typically from his guests he invites and stop and frisk -- staffers. we stood there for a moment. clearly the president did not want to continue that exchange with that reporter. we had multiple questions he hadn't called on cnn. the mask policy at the white house, what he's doing going forward. the president refused to take those questions. >> it obviously comes at a bad time for this president who is, you know, encouraging states to defy the white house's own guidelines and encouraging protesters to defy the white house's own guidelines about social distancing. the fact that there has now been an outbreak of coronavirus in two people in the white house,

close to the president and the vice president, just explain the new policy. suddenly it seems like everybody now in the white house is being told to wear a mask. and i assume they can be tested. >> reporter: yes, they can. anyone who is interacting with the president, senior staff, are being tested. but they're kind of letting other people if they want to be tested get tested. that was what was so confusing today. obviously the point many reporters were trying to make, if you can't even control an outbreak here in the white house, which is actually really small. looks big on tv. the west wing is pretty cramped and pretty small. how should other people feel comfortable going back to work when here at the white house you can get a test and find out if you have coronavirus or not in 15 minutes or less. that is not the same luxury afforded to other people. obviously there is an important in the white house and the president and his aides getting tested. how should other people feel comfortable getting back to work if they can't get tested? before the president abruptly left, anderson, he was saying

anybody who wants to get a test can get a test. the admiral standing to his right who is really the point man on testing so far saying people who need a test can get a test. but he was making the case about who it is that needs a test. talking about people who are symptomatic. that seems to go right in the face of what happened here last week which is when the vice president's press secretary was asymptomatic. she tested negative the day before. if she was a regular person she probably wouldn't have been tested the next day. but she was tested and it was positive. she had not had any symptoms, though. that's the case for more people across the nation is if they do not have symptoms, they are going back to work. how do they know if it's safe for them to go back to work. so that was really the point so many people were trying to make as the president was talking about ramping up testing and what it's going to look like over the next few weeks. >> it's so interesting when you see a charlatan tries to convince you of something because a lot of times what they say is so obviously untrue, but it's also kind of depending on

just the brazenness of the lie. and it sort of is based on the idea that everybody else is a moron and doesn't pick up on the lie when you actually have the president saying yet again, anyone who wants a test can get one, which he said at the cdc. wasn't true then, isn't true today. his own admiral says, well, it's anyone who needs a test can get one with a doctor's recommendation, et cetera. and then he comes out and again just ignores what he just said and just repeats the lie again. i mean, it's the most obvious micro cosmic example of the president's strategy to just invent his own history and make up his own facts. >> >> reporter: and a lot of it has to do going back to the beginning of this. the united states was incredibly slow to roll out testing. you saw him today comparing it to south korea and their numbers. obviously south korea is a different population. but also they started their testing much more rigorously

early on so they were able to flatten the curve. that's why they've gotten a couple hundred deaths in their country and the united states as you noted at the beginning of the show, we crossed 80,000 today alone. so comparing those, it's not really the same thing. that was another point the president has been making about where we are in relation to other countries and other nations. but a lot of it, anderson, has to do with if you talk to people going back, the failure and the criticism about the failure of testing is something that's one of the most sensitive points with the president and that's why i think the which you see him talk about testing the way he does is because essencetive to that criticism. >> it does seem, kaitlan, the president views testing as something he has not been encouraging. it seems like part of the reason is that he believes more people get tested, the numbers go higher, and he knows that or believes that reflects badly on him. i mean, he has said such. >> reporter: he said that last week in the oval office with the

iowa governor kim reynolds talking about that. he was saying, it makes us look worse because the more people you test the more likely the higher numbers are. my home state of alabama struggle with, they didn't have the capability to do testing early on. when they started doing testing, you're seeing a spike in cases happening now because not enough people took it seriously enough early on to stay home and to do the things they needed to do. so it is so important and that is why you hear the health experts. none of them have said -- tried to downplay testing or dismiss it or anything like that because they know how critical it's going to be and how much it can change the trajectory of what this looks like over the next several months. >> today we prevailed on testing is -- well, it is what the president said. kaitlan collins, thank you very much. joining us is chief medical correspondent sanjay gupta and

director for research and policy at the university of minnesota. sanjay, the president saying we prevailed when it comes to testing in this nation. based on what you've seen, what you know we need, is that even remotely accurate? i know obviously the tests have increased greatly, but there is still a rush to get more tests out, better tests, faster tests, more accurate tests. and not everybody can get tested. >> right. sadly we're not yet where we need to be. i think most people recognize this. in order to start reopening, you know, businesses, the economy, we need to be testing a lot more. we need to figure out who has the virus. i think the fact that this virus can spread a symptomatically before or without any symptoms, it complicates things. if you could use screening tests to test for symptoms and have reasonable confidence, that would be good enough. that would make things a lot easier. that's not the case here. we need to be able to test because people may not have any

idea they are carrying the virus and they are potentially spreading the virus. i think this idea of comparing the tests we have to other countries really -- it doesn't make any sense. it doesn't really give us any more information. we need to know how many tests we need here. kaitlan is quite right, i think. the fact that we started late -- anderson, you and i talked about this a few months ago now. if you're going to do these things, put these stay-at-home orders in place, start robust testing, all of it makes a bigger difference if you start earlier. we started late, which is why we have more than a quarter of the world's confirmed cases right now and we're not even 5% of the world's population. we've been behind the curve on testing. >> michael, i'm wondering two things from you. what you took away from what you heard today out of the white house and also just where you think, looking where we are right now tonight on this night, where we are in this pandemic, what it's looking like you to.

>> i think sanjay really summed it up very well. testing is critical. we need it. we don't have a system for testing. even the test we have, for example, the ones using at the white house, gives us an unreasonable number of false negatives. even if you were tested, you could still be positive, infected and be there. so we really need to do much, much more to complete the entire system of testing in this country. not just getting the results, but how it's used. in terms of how we're at, when i hear we prevailed, that's hard to understand because as i've said before, we're only in the second inning of this nine-inning game. we have between 5 to 20% of the population in this country that's been infected. most of the country closer to the 5% range. this virus will not stop transmitting at the level it is until we get to 60 to 70%. if you think about all the pain, suffering and death we've had, the economic disruption from 5 to 20%, we still have a long ways to go, i don't know how you can talk about prevailing when

we still have such a road ahead of us. >> gloria, from a political standpoint, does it seem to you the administration would sort of like to -- is sort of trying to basically get as much distance between the president and this virus as possible, you know, question death tolls, raise questions about death toll, don't be promoting testing or encourage people to go back to work. essentially to make deaths from coronavirus just -- somebody else i know has made this comparison. i can't even remember where i read it, but i thought it was an interesting comparison. the administration wants to get businesses back up and have whoever dies from coronavirus just be deaths like school shootings. just things that happen that people say, thoughts and prayers, but there's nothing that can be done about it. >> well, this is a president who is living in an alternate

universe right now. and the universe that he is living in is saying, okay, the coronavirus is going to be behind us really soon. we're going to get back to normal. and the phrase that really struck me today, anderson, at his press conference, he talked about a transition to greatness. think about that. what that means is that, okay, now that we're opening up the country, now that we're getting past all of this, we're going to be great again. you know, this is my plan to let the american people know that i'm in charge and everything's going to be fine. don't forget, this is also an administration who promised to have 27 million tests by the end of march. that didn't happen. so the question is at this point do the american people believe the messaging coming out of the white house particularly what

they see going on inside the white house itself right now, with people getting tested and getting re-tested and people showing that they are positive for the virus. i mean, if it can't be controlled there, how can it be controlled anywhere. so it's a really strange message he's delivering right now and a little too rosy, particularly for a lot of those governors in states who are slower about opening up. >> michael, the idea that, you know, we're not going to get to a place where everybody can be tested every single day, at work, that's not going to happen just logistically. so what would it look like to have enough tests that -- what would that look like >> first of all, we have to have what we call smart testing. people rob banks because that's where the money is. we need to be testing anyone who has any clinical signs or symptoms that could have this disease. that's where we're going to find

the most important activity in terms of what's happening with spread. next we need to be able to test health care workers who are in contact with patients who have some symptom. we need to test people that are in hospitals. they could be infected, but not hospitalized for covid infection. we want to know. we want to know if there is a scheme we can prioritize. we're not even close getting through what i just shared with you. so that's why we need to concentrate our testing, but eventually expand it. we need expanded testing. anderson, just to put a context to this, when you think about that 60 days ago today, this disease was not even the top 100 causes of death in this country. this past month it was the number one cause of death. there is no other disease since 1918 that's done that. and we're just getting started in the second inning of this nine-inning game. you understand why we have to have a comprehensive plan for

testing and so forth than what we have right now. we're just getting started. >> yeah, and federal leader sthip, not just a piecemeal state by state approach. appreciate it. gloria borger as well. sanjay, stay with us. the president with the chinese american reporter in the rose garden event. andrew yang will join us. a lot more to discuss. stay with us. feel the clarity of non-drowsy children's claritin allergy relief. and relief from symptoms caused by over two hundred outdoor and indoor allergens. because to a kid, a grassy hill is irresistabale. children's claritin. feel the clarity and live claritin clear.

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we've been talking about the president's news conference today including the way he ended it, sparring with a reporter after she asked a very reasonable question. the cbs reporter describes herself as a chinese american. he told her to ask china. >> you said america is doing far better than any other country. >> yes. >> why does that matter? why is it a global competition if every day americans are losing lives and we're still seeing more cases every day? >> well, they're losing their lives everywhere in the world. maybe that's a question you should ask china. don't ask me. ask china that question, okay. when you ask them that question, you may get a very unusual answer. yes, behind you, please.

>> sir, why are you saying that to me specifically? >> i'm telling you, i'm not saying it specifically to anybody. i'm saying it specifically to anybody that would ask a nation ti question like that. >> it's not a nasty question. why does it matt sner? >> please, in the back. >> you pointed to me. i have two questions. >> next, please. >> you called on me. >> i did. and you didn't respond. and now i'm calling on the young lady in the back. please. >> i just wanted to let my colleague finish. >> ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much. thank you very much. >> and he left. joining me nose is cnn political commentator andrew yang, former presidential candidate who endorsed joe biden. andrew, thank you for being with us. the idea that the president -- i don't know if it's to say that he became unhinged or if he left in a huff, but the idea that he, you know, couldn't deal with

kaitlan collins asking him a question and yet again calling a female reporter's question nasty and telling her to ask china. i'm wondering what you made of this. >> well, there was a memo that went out to republican political operatives recently, anderson, and it said to blame china for the coronavirus because distracting the american people from the failings of the trump administration and helping address this crisis is just about the only way they can put this in some kind of light that would enable him to win in november. so that's out there for everyone to see. and when trump got a question about his administration's handling of the virus, he went straight from that play book. he said, talk to china. blame china. the fact that it was a chinese-american reporter serves as a distraction. we have to keep the attention focused on what americans care about, which is our health, our communities, our economic

recovery, and not let trump distract us from the real issues. >> it is clearly the play book. obviously early on the trump administration, which was in negotiations with china over trade, you know, was praising chinese leadership, of all things, praising chinese transparency which was obviously not actually occurring. now as you say, i play book has been written and that's when the president is following and trying to make this as much as possible something that they did rather than the failures of his administration, the missing month of february where he was hanging out with diamond and silk talking about miracles happening and this disappearing by april. >> that's exactly right. there are very few narratives he can present that don't call attention to the fact his administration mishandled this pandemic in unprecedented ways,

unthinkable ways. we're all paying the price. one of the few ways that he can frame it is saying that this is china's fault. this is a foreign effort. and it's us against them. instead of saying, well, we're dealing with this pandemic that experts have washed about for years, and we dropped the ball. he can't win saying that we dropped the ball and we're seeing great depression-era levels of unemployment, 3 million plus jobs loss. that is not the winning case for an incumbent and he knows it. this is one of the few things he can draw on for voters to give him a path to victory. i don't think it will work. it's one reason i'm thrilled we're talking about this because we have to kpaul it ocall it ou time he tries it and make sure this particular play is a total . >> what this reporter was calling out, the president turns everything into, i don't know if a game is the right way, but a competition with another country where he is the only victor, where, you know, he wins, where

america wins when, in fact, it's very interesting when you see that mentality play out because you heard him last week suggesting that more testing means his numbers go up, the numbers of people who are actually infected goes up and that reflects poorly, he believes, on his administration, on the united states. it's such an odd way of looking at this, and it's clearly -- i mean, if that is the way he's looking at not having so much testing because the nuns wimberl go up and make him look bad, that's a dangerous thing. >> we know that we're number one in the world in cases, in deaths from the coronavirus. and you're right that he likes to frame everything in terms of a competition in terms of numbers. unfortunately here the numbers are disastrous for us all.

not just in terms of the cases, but also, again, 30 million plus jobs lost. record numbers of americans are trying to figure out where their next paycheck is coming from. presenting it as a zero-sum game to me is something that they've written out as one of their few recourses in the situation. but what we care about as americans is not what's going on in other places, it's what's going on in our homes, our local hospitals, our communities every single day. >> andrew yang, i appreciate your time. hope you and your family are staying safe. >> congratulations on being a dad. i'm so freaking pumped for you. >> thank you so much. i really -- it's just extraordinary as you well know. it's incredible. i'll probably be calling you for some advice because i don't know what i'm doing. >> any time. i can give you advice as to how to keep them alive. [ laughter ] >> that would be good. thank you. all right. you take care. there's breaking news ahead on a study done on the drug

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when it comes to using hydroxychloroquine? >> well, thank you for having me, anderson. when we looked at these just over 1400 patients who were living with coronavirus and were hospitalized in new york, we really looked at three questions. did physicians actually use these drugs? were they prescribed or not and for whom? and then we looked at three outcomes. outcomes on the basis of in-hospital deaths, cardiac arrest, and abnormal heart rhythms. what we found is there were far differences of illnesses upon admission to the hospital and other factors. hydroxychloroquine was not associated with a benefit of in-hospital death nor was it associated with a benefit in terms of abnormal heart rhythm. when we looked at cardiac arrest, what we saw was the combination of a azithromycin and hydroxychloroquine did seem

to be associated with elevated levels of cardiac arrest. and that was true even after we made our statistical adjustment for differences in illness upon admission to the hospital. >> so not only was it not effective in what they hoped it would be effective for. it actually was associated with more cardiac arrest. am i summarizing that correctly? >> yes, you are, anderson. exactly, in terms of in-hospital deaths or abnormal heart rhythm, we didn't see a significant benefit or significant effect of harm. but when it comes to cardiac arrest, especially for patients who got the combination of these two drugs, we saw that there was an elevated level of cardiac arrest, and that remained true even if we made these other statistical adjustments for things like patient, age and gender and level of illness upon

admission to the hospital, absolutely. >> just a reminder of the importance of actual medical professionals being people who discuss medication, not politicians or newscasters recommending it, saying things like it's not going to kill you when, in fact, it's actually associated with elevated cardiac arrest. and you point out that your study does have limitations and you write about in your report that we need -- we still need clinical trials. >> absolutely. this was an observational study. not a randomized controlled trial which the researchers would be assigning whether or not by randomization who got the drug and who got placebo. in our case we did an observational study because it was we thought it was important to look at quickly what was the real world experience of physicians prescribing these drugs and what occurred with their patients when these prescriptions were made. and the kind of observational study we did, it's weaknesses in

terms of randomization, not being able to randomize to different conditions. but its strength is you can do something in the real world looking at a timely way and much shorter time period to see what the effects would be. but i think that you want to take into consideration what were the findings of our study, of our observational studies that have been released. maybe other randomized control trials. our study was very consistent with recent fda statement concern with hydroxychloroquine. it is also consistent with a recent n.i.h. treatment offer hydroxychloroquine and a azithromycin together. the n.i.h. guideline said they made the recommendation in a strong way but needed to see more empirical dat saw and hopefully studies like ours are filling that gap in terms of empirical information out there. >> it is such an important point you make your study, your

observational study. it's not an outlier. when you look at it in the context of the other studies that have been done, the advice from fda and others, it adds to that and it's so important in that sense. i really appreciate what you do and thank you very much for coming on and talking about it. thank you very much. while questions pile up on that drug, the biotech firm regeneron says it expects to begin clinical trials next month of an antibody cocktail it hopes will prove critical adds a treatment, not a vaccine. want to bring sanjay back and also joining us dr. george iancopolis. thank you for being with us. you said the antibody testing could actually prevent people from getting the disease. can you just explain to me how that might work and how optimistic or if you're optimistic about that? >> right. the antibody cocktail, not the antibody testing. let me just remind you what our cocktail is. we all know when you get a vaccine that's intended to make you immune against the virus.

what does immune against the virus mean? it means the vaccine is making your body make antibodies, antiviral antibodies that will attack and kill the virus. that's why the vaccines are so important. we hope it eventually obviously to have a safe and effective vaccine, but we've heard from so many people, from dr. fauci, those could still be a year or two away. what we've done is over the last many decades, we developed a whole new set of technologies that we've actually invested billions on to make these sort of antibodies, antiviral antibodies outside of the body without a vaccine, recombinantly it's called. grow them in these massive bioreactors, purify them. we give back the antibodies like the vaccine does, but much more potent, much more concentrated, much more powerful. instantaneously they would make somebody immune as if they had

been vaccinated. more powerfully. they can work. where as vaccines, you can't give them to somebody who is sick or infected. these things have been shown to work in other diseases in cases where people are already sick and infected. so there is reason to have a lot of hope for this is because these exact approaches in technology we invented and we've applied over and over again to many other diseases, on the order of ten or so antibodies using these approaches have been or will soon be approved by the fda. most notably, we use these in the ebola epidemic. and showed rather dramatically that it could save people in the early stages of infection with ebola or even the latest stages. as we know, ebola is much more universally lethal disease than the koechltcovid. that provides a lot of confidence. >> sanjay has questions as well.

sanjay? >> yes. you take these antibodies, you give them to somebody. do you have any idea how long that might last, then, in terms of giving them protection? with a vaccine, the body is essentially making antibodies and it may last a long time, maybe the rest of their lives, the protection. what about with this antibody cocktail you're talking about? >> that's a great point. that's why we need both of these approaches. vaccines, the goal of vaccines is they may actually make your body provide these antibodies forever. the limitation of our approach is you will have to take them once a month or once every few months. however, as we know with vaccines, they also have their limitations. they don't tend to work as well, for example, in the elderly and the immuno compromised. some of the people that are most likely to be affected by this virus, where as giving them these antibodies that we're talking about allows those sorts

of people to immediately fight against the virus. so there's reason to have both. we need to have a lot of effort on the vaccine front for the exact reasons you talk about. you can create herd immunity in the population. they can immediately cure people or protect people before a vaccine or those people who won't ever be responding well to a vaccine. >> wow, that's incredibly exciting. i wish we had more time, but i appreciate you coming on. it's fascinating work. i look forward to following your progress. good luck. we all need a lot. thank you. up next, a special family reunion in texas. a dad who left his job as an attorney to volunteer as a nurse is finally, finally out of quarantine and back home. to everyone navigating these uncertain times...

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>> daddy! >> that is gracie. now she and her mom dr. gina mullen are reunited with jim mullen. we are happy they join us now. thank you for being with us. as a family thank you all for the sacrifice you made. jim, you went out of your way to do something like this. you don't even work as a nurse any more. you're trained as a nurse. you're an attorney, if my memory serves me correct. you volunteered to come here in a different state. it's amazing to me you were willing to do that. when you look back on it now, what do you think? >> you know, i look back on it as an amazing opportunity. it's something i'll never forget for as long as i live. now that i've had the opportunity to come home and finally be with gina and grace, i look at it slightly differently just because, you know, you see how it affects the 2-year-old even when she seems so happy normally. overall it was an unbelievable

experience i'll never forget. >> dr. mullen, what went through your mind, first of all, when you saw your husband but also when he first told you, you know what, i'm going to go to new york and do this. >> i -- you know, you're just kind of like in shock and you have a few selfish thoughts that go through your mind, but at the end of the day, i wanted to be supportive and, you know, i -- i knew that he had been on the front lines with me in atlanta and i wanted to support him in this. >> gracie. >> grace is so beautiful. and she's just glowing. and so adorable. what -- gracie, what'd you think when you saw your dad come home? >> what'd you think? hugs and kisses? yeah. >> happy?

>> yeah. >> aw. >> take your finger out. >> and i also understand that gracie received a special gift. is that right? something that dad had been putting -- that dad has been putting -- having to put together. >> yeah. did you get a dollhouse? >> yeah. >> did you like it? >> yeah. >> yeah? did you say thank you to mr. cooper? >> thank you, mr. cooper. >> dr. mullen, i mean, just the community outpour iing, you kno we're watching again on our tv screens. it's so uplifting to see given what a sobering time this has been and to see, you know, people clapping in their windows and banging pots and pans and to -- for the nurses and the doctors and you've been working in a hospital in dallas. what message do you have for those who, you know, who came out, even decorated their cars, to welcome you guys back? to welcome jim back?

>> you know, i think we're just so appreciative, but we don't want to forget that there's so many people out there on the front lines and, you know, that we're just two people who are trying to serve our country and serve the people here, and so, so many people, you know, we could never say thank you to everyone. we just hope that everyone continues to stay safe and continues to take this seriously. >> jim, just lastly, you know, to those watching right now who may be missing their own loved ones who reason are on the fron, what message do you have for them and those on the front lines and you know what that's like, what's your message to them? >> i would say keep doing the unbelievable work you're doing. five minutes before i hopped on this call, i was scrolling through my facebook feed and saw a patient at the hospital in queens where i was that had been discharged after 29 days intubated, 49 days in the hospital, so, you know, your

work -- >> wow. >> -- is making a huge difference and paying dividends for families all over the united states. so we really appreciate you. there was over 4,000 nurses and emts and paramedics where i was in new york city. they were doing exactly what i was doing and i thank you all so much for everything that you're doing. >> jim and gracie and dr. gina mullen, thank you so much for all you have done and do no doubt will continue to do. we wish you the best. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. >> say thank you, mr. cooper. >> thank you -- >> nice. bye. up next, we remember a really special lady, a mom, a grandmother, and a moving tribute that her grandson made for her. in a moment. we'll be right back. ght so...oh. i'll start... oh, do you want to go first? no, no i don't...you go. i was just going to say on slide 7, talking about bundling and saving...umm... jamie, you're cutting out. sorry i'm late! hey, whoever's doing that, can you go on mute? oh, my bad!

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as often as possible we try to end our show remembering some of the lives that have been lost during this crisis and tonight we want to honor margaret mackenz mackenzie. she passed away from the coronavirus on saturday. she was living in a nursing home in new jersey when she became infected. she was a mother to four girls

and a grandmother to 15 grandchildren and great-gra great-grandchildren. they all called her nana. because of the lockdowns they can't be together to mourn their nana, to have the memorial service she deserves. she can't give each other hugs or laugh or cry together or tell stories to remember her all in one place, so her grandson, jamie, posted a tribute online as a way to remember her. he sent it to me on instagram and i wanted you you to see it. we've had to edit it down, but we think it's worth watching. it's a beautiful tribute to his nana. ♪ >> it's amazing to look at this family and know she's responsible for all of this, and a piece of her will live in all of us. she's helped mold eed us into t men, women, uncles, aunts, mothers, and fathers, that we all are today.

i'm going to miss her calling me after the 1:00 and 4:00 games during football seasons to confirm the results for her pool. i'm going to miss surprising her with a visit. i'll miss making her laugh. i'll miss the way that she would smile at me when we would make eye contact across the room at family parties. i'll miss her singing "happy birthday" over the phone to me every year. i and our entire family are going to miss our nana. we love you. >> hi, jamie. it's just nana. i called to talk to you. i love you. >> beautiful tribute to a wonderful woman who is very much loved and missed. what an incredible life she lived. our thoughts go out to all the families who lost loved ones due to the