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on cnn. new cnn global town hall with anderson cooper and dr. sanjay gupta. they're going to be joined by mlb commissioner rob manfred and former health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius and activist greta thunberg. republican senator richard burr announced he'll step aside as the head of the senate intelligence committee as fbi investigates stock trades he made before it shut down business and travel in the u.s. and the stock market tanked. senior justice department official said federal officials seized a cell phone belonging to burr. senior congressional correspondent manu raju on capitol hill. big developments today, manu. what are you learning? >> reporter: a turn of events affecting a powerful chairman,
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someone who leads the senate intelligence committee said he'll step aside as he faces this investigation from the fbi about his stock trades and whether he trades on inside information. he sold $7.5 million worth of stocks and the same day, his brother traded $80,000 worth of stocks. did he rely on inside information in trading that? he said he's relied on public information in making those trades but nevertheless, caught enough attention from the justice department his phone was seized by the fbi yesterday. he was served with a search warrant as they continue to investigate this matter. so this morning, he told mitch mcconnell, senate majority leader he does not want any distraction to the republicans and his committee, so decided to step aside. still continue to serve on the committee and no plans to resign his seat, not going to step
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aside, any concerns about poor judgment and making these trades. he said, quote, nope. he's feeling fine about what he did. he believes he could push back on this martter. he angered trump allies from time to time. involved in issuing subpoena for donald trump jr. and offered a bipartisan report affirming the conclusion about the intelligence community it was russia that interfered in the 2016 elections with the intention of helping trump win the presidency, i asked burr if he thought this in any way was retribution for his work. he would not comment. he said, you'll have to ask the justice department about what it did but nevertheless, this is a very significant matter. richard burr could potentially be in legal jeopardy and stepping aside from a key committee at a crucial time as the heat grows about these stock
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trades back in february. brianna? >> manu, thank you so much for that report from capitol hill. head to new york now with governor andrew cuomo with how things are going in that state. >> president dewan for his hospitality. we have with us from the far right, howard zuker, doing outstanding work. mckayla kennedy cuomo. youngest of my three. she was going to come with us yesterday but she had an appointment with her pillow that could not be broken. despite an executive order. to my left, de rosa and then gareth rhodes. first, again, i want to thank all the nurses and doctors here and all across the state and the country who have done truly extraordinary work and thank u
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you, i wanted to see if there was anything we could learn. today is day 75. feels like a lifetime. but it's 75 days since we had our first case. you can see so far so good in terms of the continuing decline in the total number of hospitalizations in the state. on the three day rolling average also. the number of intubations is down and that's really good news. the number of new cases, which is what we're watching, these are the new cases statewide. new diagnoses. people who were in hospitals who test positive or people who walk in the door who test positive. much, much better than it was. the number of lives lost is also down, still terrible and tragic.
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but headed in the right direction. so all the arrows are pointed in the right direction and we're basically right back to where we were before we started this horrific situation. the question then becomes reopening. it's not a question of reopening or not. everybody wants to reopen. we have to get back to work. people need a paycheck. the state needs an economy everybody wants to reopen and from the national experts, global experts, make sure you don't reopen too soon. what they mean to be saying by too soon is you have to reopen intelligently. and you have to reopen in a calibrated way. nobody says don't reopen. they say just be intelligent
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about the way you reopen. follow the data, follow the science, follow the facts, follow the metrics. we know enough now to know what happens that every action has a reaction, if we do this, then this will happen. we've lived this enough. so based on what we know, make sure we're being intelligent, based not on feelings but facts. learn the lessons of other people who have gone through this. other states have gone through it. other countries have gone through it. and be smart. check the data on a daily basis and we have the data on a daily basis. we put together a very elaborate reporting system on testing data, hospital data from all
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across the state. that data is now available on a daily basis and you can track that data and know exactly where you are. it's like taking your blood pressure every morning or getting your cholesterol count every morning. you can know exactly where you are every morning. and not just for the elected officials. not just for government. this is all about what people do, this is about what citizens do and what the elected officials are trying to do is to inform the citizens so they can better protect themselves. they know what decisions they should make and that's why all the decisions they're accumulating, making it in a very transparent way and i hope people get up in the morning, they have their cup of coffee and they go online to find out where their county is, how are they doing, and calibrate their
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behavior that way. the state has developed a very elaborate dashboard of relevant local information. they told me they were designing a dashboard. i got very excited about it. 1964 corvette. arguably the most beautiful dashboard. i said they should consider that design when they had the state dashboard. they came back with this design. new york state dashboard. so here's the state dashboard. you notice the iconic design and curves and art used in it but it
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has all the information. not the most artistic and it has all the information for all the regions statewide. every region can compare themselves for other regions in the state. right now, the criteria we have which is basically from the federal cdc. we have certain regions that are poised to reopen tomorrow, other regions that don't suggest they're in a position to reopen and this is all based on the metrics and the numbers. how many hospitalizations do you have? do you have your testing in place or your tracing in place and obviously, we have different rates of infection across the state. hence the variance in opening times. the big responsibility is now going to fall to local government, to manage this
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situation. and my advice to local governments are, in terms of priority, daily monitoring of numbers. daily monitoring of numbers, and daily monitoring of numbers of thehree priorities. know what activities you engaged, you know how you increased the level of activity. we're measuring the effect of that activity. make sure you monitor it every morning, every morning. make sure the businesses that are open are in compliance with the guidelines that are opening. make sure individuals comply. you're going to say it's a reopening, people will say, hallelujah, run out of their house. they'll want to get out. they'll want to do things. reopeni reopening. phased reopening does not mean the problem has gone away. it means we have controlled the
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problem because of what we did and our individual responsibility and actions and that has to be maintained and i would urge local governments to be diligent about the business compliance and about individual compliance. and if you see a change in those numbers, react immediately. react immediately. if you allow this virus to get ahead of us, we will have a problem. we'll have the data react immediately. at the same time, the states need help from the federal government and that's a topic being discussed now. washington must act. must be smart, fast, new york state in a $60 billion hole. when you shut down the economy, you obviously create an economic hole for the state. what does the state fund? the state funds local
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governments, fun schools, if the state has no budget, then schools get cut, hospitals get cut, local governments get cut, then you cut police and front line workers. why would you cut that at this point? makes no sense. a lot of business incentives, great. but we need our health care institutions and police officers funded. we spoke about the state funding issues with donald trump. he heard me out. i've also asked him to expedite certain payments and he's expediting $3.9 billion payment to the mta, which is a very large transportation agency in the state. which desperately needs funding because the ridership is way
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down and the president cut red tape and actually sent the first installment today and i'm grateful for that and thank him. the house, in the meantime, proposed the bill. the bill does a lot of good. it funds state and local aid. everybody talks about testing/tracing. those operations be put in place and wind up hiring thousands of trace tracers. we need funding to do that. i understand the governors are in charge but we need help with funding. and the house bill repeals the salt tax change made in washington about three years ago and that tax change that they made cost new york state billions. the house bill repealed that
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change, which is a significant, significant benefit to this state and ironically, the states that were most hurt by s.a.l.t. are the states that have the most pain from the covid virus. so repealing s.a.l.t. is, actually, in my opinion, the best thing you can do to help the states that are now battling the covid virus. in new york state, the s.a.l.t. repeal increased our taxes 12 to 15 billion dollars more to the federal government every year. that would be a major boost but washington has to act. no delay. no special interest or special treatment here. >> when we do these corporate
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bailouts, make sure we don't make the mistake we made in 2008 where we gave corporations large bailouts and the corporations took the money and paid themselves with the money. i was attorney general at the time. i brought cases against corporations that took the bailout and gave them all a pay raise. why should the american taxpayers now bail out corporations unless they're going to rehire workers. i'm afraid you're going to see corporations that will not hire back the same number of employe employees. they're going to use this pandemic as a way to restructure or lien. if they take money, they should rehire the same number of workers they had before. i did an op-ed in the "washington post" to that effect, but i believe that should be a condition across the board. any corporation that gets money
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from the government, from the people should hire back the same number of workers. if you want to lay off workers, don't expect the taxpayer to subsidize you letting off workers. a moment in our modern history that we can get out of this gridlock, hyperpartisan moment, now is the time. my position of funding for state governments is not a democratic position. there's an organization called the national governor's association. the tchairman is a republican governor and i'm the vice chair. the national governor's association is a bipartisan to urge washington to pass the relief for state and local governments. there's no red or blue here. it's red, white, and blue. we went through all this about
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reopening. i want to set the bar higher. it's not going back to where we were. let's use this as a moment to grow and to get better, learn from the pain we went through. i talked about reimagining new york. reimagine our education system. our telecommuting. better public health system and take this experience and grow from it. life will knock you on your rear end, that's true but you get up and get up smarter. that's the moment we're at. one of the lessons we learned, speaking about it in the hearing today, we should never again be in the position where we don't have medical equipment. where we're facing a pandemic, we're facing a major public health issue, and we don't even
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have basic equipment for nurses and doctors? and so much of it came from china and governors such as myself are trying to figure out who do we know in china to get masks for nurses in our hospitals? i mean, it was terrible what we went through. it's a matter of national security. and i want to make sure we in new york are actually leading the way. let us start manufacturing here in this country, in this state, masks and gowns and gloves and the ventilators and the tests we need and let new york start and we already have but never again, as a nation, have to scramble the way we scrambled. we are now aggressively courting businesses, incentivizing businesses to build, to
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manufacture medical equipment here in this state. and the state will partner with corporations to do that. so if you want to start, grow your business, expand your business, manufacturing masks and gowns is not the most difficult situation. technological technologically. the volume is the problem. the quantity. but we want to develop that here in this state. then with this virus, we must remain vigilant. we are still learning facts in many ways are continuing to change on us, and while we're learning, the virus is still learning also. we have a situation that is serious and concerning, which is these covid-related illnesses in children. the department of health is now
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looking at 110 cases of covid-related illness in children. it's similar to the, what they call kawasaki disease or toxic shock-like syndrome. we've lost a 5-year-old, a 7-year-old and an 18-year-old girl to this disease. new york state and the department of health are at the forefront nationally, if not internationally in looking at this. and the department of health, good work of dr. zucker, they had a number of telephone conferences, web conferences. 16 other states now see cases they're investigating once the department of health explained what they've been looking at, six european countries looking at the same situation and i expect, this is only going to grow.
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parents should beware and be informed of this. the key is prolonged fever and on the chart, symptoms that parents should look for. also, it tends to present in children who were exposed to the covid virus and actually now have the antibodies from the covid virus or still test positive for the covid virus. if you have a child who has a fever who you think may have been exposed to the the covid virus, a person who had the virus where you found out later came down with it, and you see these symptoms, then you should take action. new york state has published today online the first in the nation criteria for health care professionals to isolate the
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syndrome, but right now, affecting children from less than 1 year old. so infants to 21 years old. that's, when you look at over the 100 cases, that's the span, which is obviously a very frightening development. there's more information on the web site. last point. point of personal opinion. i'm the governor of the state of new york and i take that responsibility very seriously. i'm honed to be governor but in many ways, before being governor, i'm a son. i'm a brother, i'm an uncle. and a father. as a father, i want to make sure i'm communicating, especially this last situation to the people of the state.
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this virus has been with us every step of the way. i can't tell you how many quote unquote facts i was told that then changed. when the virus started, the virus was coming from china. everybody looking at china. turns out, the virus came from europe, and nobody told us. when this first started, if you had the disease, and recovered, you then had antibodies, and you were immune. my brother had the virus, recovered, so he had the antibodies. we were told you were immune from getting it again, and we had plans to have people who tested for the antibodies, they could go back to work because they were immune. then the facts change, you know what, maybe they're not immune. maybe they're only a little immune or partially immune. then we were told children are
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not affected by the virus. that was the only good news, by the way, in the whole first evaluation. children aren't affected. okay, now, maybe children are affected. and we just didn't know it. okay. what do we know now? we're studying 100 children from 1 to 21. mckay lla, my daughter, is 22. we only have people up to 21. she's okay, yeah, until we have someone who's 22. or 23 or 24. so the facts change. i have done my best to give people the information that i know, but i want you to have the same caution flag that i live
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with. the facts on this virus has changed, and i believe they will continue to change. so take this all with a grain of salt and my basic point is do not underestimate this virus. it has beaten us at every turn and it has surprised us at every turn. don't take it lightly. don't underestimate it. i believe the facts will change as we go forward. the more we learn about the virus, the more the facts change, and the worse it gets, there has been no news since we started this where we were actually too cautious or too concerned. all the news has been bad, as far as i'm concerned. so with all this information,
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with all government is doing, hearings in washington, all this, you know who's going to protect you? you are. you know who's going to protect mckayla? 22 years old. mckayla being informed. mckayla understanding. i like to think with a little advice from a parent, which she discounts 99% but maybe 1% of the advice communicates. mckayla's graduating from college this year. they closed the college. she said, a lot of people are having parties and they're having graduation light events. should i go? 22. you can't tell them anything at 22. i couldn't tell them anything at 21, 20, 19 but here's the facts. this is what we know. is it worth the risk to do it? and mckayla's made all the right
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decisions. but every parent, every child, it's your job to understand and protect yourself and i just urge caution because everything i say, i tell you everything i know. but i'm also telling you, there are things we don't know yet. and how do you protect yourself from those things? just be cautious, be diligent. wearing a mask, wearing gloves, staying away from gatherings. i know they're inconvenient, but god forbid, you know, just god forbid, i've talked to too many families who have lost people. i talked to too many families who lost people who were not supposed to be lost to this virus. this was just about vulnerable people, senior citizens, co-morbidities. yeah, but then how do you lose a 40-year-old who had no symptom of anything? children were not affected.
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yeah, until children are affected. so caution to everyone. and whatever i know, i will communicate, but again, it's about you protecting you and i recommend caution and diligence. questions? >> all right, you've been listening to new york governor andrew cuomo there with one of his daily updates on how the state is doing. i want to bring in cnn's erica hill with us in new york. part of this, erica, was the economic piece of it. he said new york's in the hole $61 million but he gave president trump some props there for cutting some red tape and sending quickly, $3.9 billion in funding to the mta. the transit authority there. but he really wrapped up his comments by talking about don't underestimate the virus, right? we all thought that kids basically could not be affected
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by this and here we've seen this growing state of this inflammatory response that just seems awful and is becoming more prominent among children. >> reporter: that's right. more than a hundred cases are being investigated as having this possible inflammatory illness likely linked to covid-19. right here in new york state and to your point, brbrianna, the update on the mta is crucial because as you look at people getting back to work, public transportation is key, not just for people who live in the five boroughs of manhattan but includes people who live in the tri-state area, connecticut, outer regions of new york state and new jersey who commute in and as you point out, he once again as we've heard him say so often over the last couple of months that we have to follow the tscience and information an what we hear from dr. fauci, the virus will dictate the timeline, saying once again, we have been behind it since day one. the virus has been a step ahead. all the things, obviously being
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weighed as we are seeing some progress when you look at some of the numbers around the country. signs of progress as states and cities report fewer new cases. >> three for three, a perfect day, new york city. >> reporter: covid-19 hospitalizations, icu admissions and the percentage of people testing positive for the virus all down in the epicenter. nearly half the country, 24 states showing a decline in new cases over the past week. since reopening three weeks ago, new cases in georgia are down 12%. colorado eased restrictions april 27th. new cases there have dropped 36%. pennsylvania's numbers down 14%, as the voices pushing to reopen that state grow louder. >> we're not sheep! we're people. >> with encouragement frpreside trump who will visit a medical
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in the country. the stay at home order in wisconsin was unlawful and unenforceable, they say. >> welcome back, america. >> i'm more than happy to be back. >> the governor warning the move will set his state back. >> it puts our state into chaos. we have no -- there's no regulations out there right now, period. it's a bad day for wisconsin. >> the onus on the individual. if you don't feel comfortable going into a restaurant or a church, then don't go. across the country, more than 36 million americans now filed for unemployment. parents wondering what september will bring as the president pushes for children to return to the classroom. >> i think they should open the schools, absolutely. i think they should and it's had very little impact on young people. >> reporter: experts note the virus, while often less severe in children, can affect young people. who could also be carriers. in the meantime, 17 states are
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investigating cases of a rare and inflammatory illness in school age children. impacting more than 100 in new york. new findings from the national institutes of health show respiratory droplets could remain in the air for 8 minutes, raising new concerns about how long the virus may linger. >> this is a highly contagious disease. that's why we see outbreaks in call centers and choirs and other places where people are in a confined space with a lot of others. and i do really worry when social distancing guidelines are lifted. >> reporter: in orlando, and then old faithful. yellow stone allowing limited access, grand canyon partially reopens tomorrow. campgrounds and hotels at the parks remain closed for now. and we are learning about other
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openings coming down the pipe. we heard that new jersey shore beaches there will be open by memorial day, according to the governor. the mall of america set to reopen on june 1st and that's the country's largest. all of this as cnn learned the cdc guidelines we've heard so much about should be out today for businesses, and that will address guidance for restaurants, retail and also schools and day cares, brianna. >> we are waiting to see what that says. thank you so much, erica hill in new york. governor of minnesota said the mall of america will reopen on june 1st. this is north america's largest shopping and entertainment complex and cnn's amara walker joins me now with more. so this is a lot of retailers, a lot of malls are going to be looking at this. what's going to be happening, amara? >> we're talking about more than 520 retailers inside the mall of america. so as you were mentioning, brianna, the governor of minnesota, tim wells, announced
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he would be allowing state at home orders to expire effective monday on may 18th. so that paves the way for non-essential businesses to begin reopening, mall of america, now announcing it will reopen beginning on june 1st but should mention that not all the retail stores and restaurants inside mall of america will actually be reopening on june 1st. they say that for the next couple of weeks, before they reopen, many of the employees will be taking the time to implement social distancing measures, rehire staff, retrain them, try to create a safer environment. many of these stores will be operating at about 50% capacity. we should also mention that all the dining establishments inside, the sections as you may or may not know, there's an aquarium and theme park inside the mall of america. these attractions will not be reopening, but a handful of the retail stores inside mall of
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america will. they're making plans now and will be reopening on june 1st. brianna? >> all right. amara walker, thank you. just in from the pentagon, cnn learned the pentagon's point person for executing the defense production act has been removed from her job. you may recall the dpa is a tool the trump administration has used to help ramp up production of equipment needed to help combat the coronavirus pandemic. some critics have said they need to use it more, and jessica santos played a key role in this. barbara starr, this is a development that a lot of people are going to look at this and say, what does this mean? what does it mean, barbara? >> this is the question, brianna. the pentagon is not offering a lot of information. what we know is jennifer santos removed essentially fired from her job yesterday by the administration. we're told by someone familiar with the details, this was not a
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decision made at the pentagon but the white house and what they like to call the interagency process. no indication, very strongly, that jennifer santos did anything wrong. she was in a very key position. she did oversee defense production act activities here at the pentagon. that is the part of the law that would allow the pentagon to get involved in increasing supplies of that all critical personal protection equipment. interestingly, deeply involved on a very senior level with the treasury department in trying to monitor chinese investment in u.s. defense companies. it's a big concern right now because so many defense companies are being devalued. there is concern that china's moving in with its own capital trying to take over some of those companies. to o no one can tell me what they think jennifer santos did wrong. she apparently is being offered another job in the navy moving
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over from the highest levels, and going over there. not clear why this is happening. there is some indication she may have had a personality conflict. her own boss did not even know she was going to be removed. >> very curious. barbara starr, we know you'll continue to look into that story. in wisconsin, the governor there tony evers attempts to keep citizens safe during the outbreak, struck down by the state supreme court. in a 4-3 ruling, threw out a stay at home order in an attempt to extend to may 26th was unlawful and this was an overreach. cnn's omar jimenez at a cafe reopened and accepting customers. what's the business been like there? what are the owners and the customers telling you?
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>> with the supreme court order, it took out the statewide stay at home order, which means it put the onus on the individual jurisdictions to put in place a framework they felt matched up with their health officials. here in wakashaw county, they felt it was safe enough for their businesses to open up as long as it's done safely. they leave the responsibility in the business's hands. at this particular cafe, we went inside a few moments ago and spoke to the owner. and when you walk people, there are people in what is a sight he hasn't seen for a while but things are not the same and likely won't be the same for a long time because of the new measures he's had to put in place as he works the cash register, a barrier between himself and the customers that come inside. the way that the tables are set up, they're spaced out even more so even if there are people inside, they're not seated right next to each other.
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he tries to limit the amount of people in there at any given time so it doesn't get more crowded at any given point and that is the reality for him for the foreseeable future but much better than where he was from a business standpoint. and when i mentioned it came down to the local jurisdictions to decide now that the state order was thrown out by the supreme court, milwaukee county already had an ordinance in place for their cities. even though the statewide order went away, the stay at home order in june wuone county aren to open like we see in the state capitol of madison. >> thank you. president trump taking his criticism of dr. anthony fauci public and contradicting him on several things. plus, a black light experiment shows how fast the virus can spread. you're going to want to see this. it's going to show how it spreads inside of a restaurant.
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a new study shows the virus can stay in the air for 8 minutes after someone just speaks loudly. cnn special live coverage.
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we've heard from so many people missing, what it was like to dine out before coronavirus. but now a video from japan may have you rethinking the safety of some restaurants as they look to reopen. the experiment aims to show how quickly the virus can spread when just one person is infected. >> reporter: common on resorts and casinos, piles of hot food in communal trays. each patron helping themselves to as many servings as desired. if just one is infected, it may be the perfect setting for a virus to flourish. new video out in japan helps show how fast it could spread. medical experts teamed up wiwith the country's broadcaster to
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simulate a cruise ship's buffet style restaurant. one of ten participants rubs hands with special liquid only visible under black light. he represents an infected person who had coughed into his hands. then he joins nine others as they spoon food on to their plates and sit down to eat. after 30 minutes, the room goes dark before an ultraviolet light goes on. the fluorescent liquid visible on a lot of surfaces. items the so-called infected person has touched. left residue others picked up. and in turn, spread to silverware, dishes, glassware, clothing and phones. after half an hour, every participant had come into contact with the liquid. three of them had gotten it on their faces, a visual show of how easily a contaminated substance can travel. >> the video, there's a lot of material which is put on the hands, so that's a very
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artificial situation. but i think what they've been able to do is to actually show just what the consequences are of the spreading of potential infectious disease when hand pr hand hygiene not performed. >> it's been viewed millions of times since posted by nhk. the joint project supervisor meant to illustrate how often some surfaces are touched by many people like handrails, light switches or door handles. >> it may seem radical but i think that video should be put in front of every single public restroom. many opened up said it's linked to small clusters, what people call not necessarily the spreaders but locations, which highlights the need that people must be having much more attention to hand hygiene as well as the social distancing. >> nhk and collaborators did a
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second cleaner version of the experiment. using hygiene changes like separating dishes, replacing tongs frequently and asking participants to wash their hands during and after the meal. >> 30 minutes into that experiment, no one had picked up the fluorescent paint. anna, cnn. >> this comes as 100 health governors urge to require masks. research shows that cloth masks can slow the spread. and with me now, one of the authors of this letter, jeremy howard. he is a distinguished research scientist at the university of san francisco and led an international cross disciplinary review of the scientific research on masks by 19 medical and scientific experts and nearly all of the states, jeremy, will be partially reopened this weekend. you just saw a report on restaurants and how quickly viruses can spread there. this is really the reason why
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you're pushing masks. >> yeah, that's right. it's not enough to just wash hands. hand hygiene is important, but respiratory hygiene is also important. there's so many examples of cases of restaurants where people are passing the virus across to many other people in the restaurant just through speaking, talking to each other, the droplet clouds that are created can move all over the restaurant. i would be terrified of eating in a restaurant with people without wearing masks there. >> and we've heard of new information that even someone who is speaking loudly can create virus in the air that lingers for 8 minutes. so that creates concerns about people being in an area and they may not even be there. you may walk into what is a cloud of germs and what do you need to combat that? what kind of mask? >> and that cloud of germs can spread out to 5 meters.
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6 foot sober distancing isn't enough but if you wear a mask, the research shows that cloud does not go beyond 1.5 meter boundary. so 4 or 5 feet. what people need to do is cover their face. it doesn't matter too much what they cover with, a paper towel. a bandanna or a scarf, or a sewn cloth mask. pretty much anything does a great job of dropping or blocking the droplets on the way out. they're very hard to block on the way in, because the science shows that they evaporate into much smaller nuclei. we have to hit them at the source and remember, you don't know if you're sick, so everybody needs to wear a mask to keep their communities safe and avoid a terrible second outbreak that could cause all the lockdowns to start again and for longer. >> let's talk about places where masks are important. what about if you're outside, you think you're pretty far away from people. you just described it's not sufficient but if you're outside working out or you're near
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anyone who might be running by or walking through a park, should you be wearing a mask? >> it depends how cautious you want to be. the research suggests that the transmission rate outside is about 20 times lower than inside, so this letter from the 100 world class academic experts today specifically says we want to make sure that masks are required in all states in indoor places and indoor stores, transit and so forth. when you're outside, it's a case of how far away you are from people, is there a breeze, how long do you stand to next to somebody for, just make sure you're not in a situation where somebody else is in your droplet cloud for an extended period of time. >> we also have new video i want to share with our viewers, the president in pennsylvania at a distribution center and he's the -- i think he's the only there who's not wearing a mask.
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he's inside. is this proper behavior? i think i know the answer but you're the expert, you tell me. >> it can be said that the president is almost a unique situation that he gets tested so often but we really want to see leaders providing a great role model for everybody. and so to me, that means every leader whether it's political or scientific, has shown wearing a mask when they're around others in public places. jeremy howa >> jeremy howard, we appreciate this. president trump in more disagreement with the top infectious disease expert thinking that grade schools should come back . >> i think that we have to open our schools. young people are little elected by this. and we have to get the schools open, we need to get our country
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open. i disagree with him on schools. and i call you them spikes and he used the word spike. well, you might have that and we'll put it out. >> this as vice president pence held a virtual session with the universities and colleges seeking answers on when and how to bring students back to campus. mike due value val is the presia university and he was on the call. >> and first of all, i have honored to be part of the dialogue. and it was an informational session for us to hear from some of the administration, some of their experts. and likewise for them it hear from us about what our desires are and our needs to try to reopen our campuses. >> so i understand that marquette is planning to allow students back on campus in the fall. did you get anany guidance on h
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tosafely? >> one of the things that the white house talked about specifically is having additional guidelines from the federal government, in particular the cdc, guidelines about classrooms, guidelines about residence hall and open spaces on the campus so that we can ensures health and safety of our campus community. obviously the faculty, staff and students are our first concern and we want to ensure that we have proper guidelines and allow the experts to be able to implement the guidelines. >> so is it fair to say that you don't feel like you have the specifics that you need on exactly what it will look like to reopen? >> we would like unambiguous guidelines on how to reopen safely. and many of the presidents what we would like from the federal government is more specifics.
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and i think that when we have those and are rmarmed with those -- >> do you feel like how many students per this size classroom other best practices with masks or cleaning? is there something else there that you are looking for guidance on? >> first it is the physical space. how many students per class, should we have less than 50 students per class. and also tratracking and testin studentsen about many 18 to 24-year-olds that get the coronavirus are asymptomatic and question need t we need to ensure that we can track the students that if they have been in-effected that they have won't come into contact with others on campus and isolate them if that happens.
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so guidelines on how we can test and things of that nature. >> all right, thank you for joining us. >> thank youyou. and senator richard burr is stepping aside from the intelligence community as stock trades are being investigated. and the senator sold up to $1.7 million in stocks in february after he received closed door briefings about the virus and then today the doj has confirmed to cnn that federal officials seefed seized a cellphone belonging to senator burr. and you say this is a ws is big? >> it is. tlrm repo there were reports that richard burr and others engaged in questionable trading.
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and i know that often reports don't wrbear out any fruit. but it takes a lot of layers of review before you can get someone's cellphone because it goes all the way to the top of the u.s. attorney general's office. and because this is a sitting senator, i don't think that my office would have undertaken to do such a thing without advising and probably getting the blessing of the attorney general of the united states himself. and as people also know, you need the blessing of a district court judge which is probable cause that crime has been committed. and further that the device that was seized was used in connection with the commission of the crime. so now you have something much more tangible and concrete so that is why i think that it is a big deal. >> burr says that he was relying on basically public information
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when he made the stock trades. of course doj has reason to believe otherwise. there is another layer here that ae adds complications. and richard burr has been a burr in the side of the white house. and kelly loeffle represent is aligned with president trump and she is accused with trading more. ly husband er husband is chairm the new york stock exchange. and she is accused of selling stocks afterattending this series of briefings. so what does that tell you if anything about the fact that we vfr haven't heard anything about her situation? >> and she bought stock in one company involved in telework that we're all using now on lockdown. and i'd like to think that the justice department takes action based on facts and law and depending on what the particular
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tirks circumstances are. i don't have any evidence so i won't make any allegation. but one thing that we know is difference, richard burr has made clear and has not denied that he is the one that authorized the trading in those stocks and that it was related to the coronavirus. and kelly loeffler has said that she had no role that it was third parties that don't consult with her or her husband. and so i would hope that investigators could track that and make sure that she is telling the truth. but if other people are make in the decision for her, it is hard erd to bring. >> and what message do you think that this sends to other members of congress. and the stock act is in place and it isn't even that old and they even tightened it up after great reporting by dana bash. so what do you think?
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>> i always found it remarkable that people with a lot of power and privilege lijun wouwould en inside trader. we had a lot of people nothing to cry about in terms of personal wealth. but the stock act passed overwhelmingly over only objections of three he senators a and one of those was senator richard burr. and so there is no law against it, but i don't know whyhe sena and one of those was senator richard burr. and so there is no law against it, but i don't know whye senat and one of those was senator richard burr. and so there is no law against it, but i don't know why senato and one of those was senator richard burr. and so there is no law against it, but i don't know why that you should have ownership of any individual stock. this becomes a very difficult thing to engage in the duty that is required by their office and not run afoul of at least appearance that they are getting briefings on things that affect their own pocketbook. and the other point about all this, separate and apart from whether or not a crime was committed is the hypocrisy on
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some who were saying that publicly we're only, but privately we're selling stock. and i think that that is a lesson that other senators should learn as well. >> it really is an important lesson. and thank you so much. and more on the breaking news now. damning testimony against the trump administration accusing them of ignoring his warnings. i had a heart problem.
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