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hey, everybody. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to prime time. some cdc guidelines for reopening are now out. the white house, for some reason, held them back. and, as a result of the delay, almost 50 states have lifted restrictions in some way, without that guidance. now, know this. to reopen or not, is not the question. we have to reopen. the only question, has always been, how? and, when you don't focus on that, through the lens of science and smarts, you get wisconsin. packed bars, after a court overturned the governor's stay-home order. i want you to look at the case graph for the state. okay? this is wisconsin's total confirmed cases graph. and you allow people to go into packed bars? what do you think's going to happen now no?

we have the governor of wisconsin tonight. governor evers did not want what you are just seeing in those pictures. he will make the case to his state and this country. now, the day after trump says that kids are in great shape, there is a new, nationwide warning for children. we'll give you the real deal, here, tonight. and we're, also, finally hearing from the attorneys for the accused in the georgia killing. let's get to the facts. let's unravel them, and understand what happened there. what do you say? let's get after it. well, ready or not, the reality is the country is out and about, again. it's always been our fate to reopen. but how you do it matters. the president's ousted vaccine chief was on the hill today. he says the way we're reopening is wrong.

>> our window of opportunity is closing. there'll be, likely, a resurgence of covid-19 this fall. 2020 could be the darkest winter in modern history. >> that's rick bright. he testified after filing a whistle-blower report, claiming retaliation for sounding alarms. he says, not only are we reopening the wrong way but, we are in a worse position right now than we needed to be. >> i'll never forget the e-mails i received from mike bowen indicating that we are -- we are mass supplier, n95 respirator supplier, was completely decimated. and he had we're in deep shit. the world is. and we need to act. and i pushed that forward to the highest levels i could in hhs. and got no response. >> a lot of media tonight. spending a lot of time on the fact that when trump heard about

this, he trashed bright. and he called him -- you know what? i don't care. and, neither should you. that's noise and politics and changes no minds. here's what you should focus on. the president, also, said something, again, today, that should go down in history as his biggest mistake. no matter how long he's president, once again, this president made clear to you, on the record, that he dismisses the importance of testing. >> could be that testing's, frankly, overrated. maybe it is overrated. we have more cases than anybody in the world. but why? because we do more testing. when you test, you have a case. when you test, you find something is wrong with people. if we didn't do any testing, we

would have very few cases. >> you don't find something is wrong. you find out the truth. it's not right or wrong. it's called accurate. and this isn't semantics. okay? america doesn't test the most. trump is, literally, blaming the quantity of cases that we have in this country on the ability to count accurately. think about that. this is a big number. you know what i blame? math. listen. he doesn't want you to know the truth. think about that. the only way to know how many cases we have, he doesn't like. he doesn't want to use it. but this is different than all his delusions of the past. he is, finally, dealing with something, this pandemic, viruses, cases, illnesses, deaths, that is all too real to

make fake, simply by saying so. the result is, also, too real. we are a country in crisis. kaitlan collins is at the white house tonight. kaitlan, in terms of the white house response to what bright was saying, they are avoiding the substance and going to who he is, and trashing him. but what is the net of effect on what their planning will be like because of what he's saying? >> well, that's the question. we really had not seen hhs, the department of course that rick bright came from, push back on him in any substantive way until he started testifying today. and, then, they put out a lengthy statement saying here is his claims, here's our rebuttal and we also heard hhs secretary do the same when he was with the president today leaving the white house. and this is how the president described rick bright after watching part of his testimony this morning. >> this guy's fighting it. no reason to fight it.

it's no reason. but, more importantly than that, we've had tremendous response to hydroxy. but i watched him and he looked like an angry, disgruntled employee. >> so, chris, he says there is tremendous response to hydroxychloroquine. the fda has even pushed back on that. rick bright also said today that he disagrees with the president's claim he just made a few days ago, that anyone who wants a test, can get a test. he says that's not true and there aren't enough tests in the united states. and he also disagreed with what the president and other people have been saying about this hopeful timeline for a vaccine. the president said, today, he still thinks it could be done by the end of the year. rick bright said, even 12 to 18 months is really ambitious, and that's if everything goes right. and he said rarely does everything go right when you are developing a vaccine. >> kaitlan collins, you are gold. thank you, very much, for staying late and giving us the latest. appreciate it. be well. >> all right. so the cdc was finally allowed to put out some guidance on

safely reopening. now that all but two states have already started to do just that before they are able to get any guidance. now, as for the guidance, look, i it's better than nothing. you are seeing it now. why am i underplaying it? well, if you get to see what they are, they're basically decision trees. is the property inside? well, then, you should clean. is it outside? then, you don't have to clean as much. i mean, it's not the most detailed stuff in the world. and it almost reads and plays like something that was intentionally watered down. it doesn't, really, give any direct and in-depth guidance about anything that states have to deal with. they, instead, target certain employers, like restaurant camps and daycares. that means, once again, governors are on their own. and it just wreaks of the stench of being able to do better, whatever that would smell like. now, what the governors have to deal with is a mixed bag, right?

because not every state is in the same situation. some, still, have rising cases. most are steady. seeing some small declines. you have a lot of states like that. look. all the data's on the map in front of you. it's not about how i feel about it or how you feel about it, it's about facts. now, new jersey is one of the states where, look. look at the color coding. kind of steady to dropping. so let's bring in that state's governor, phil murphy. good to see you, governor. i know you're working very hard. i'm sure your state appreciates it. we see it in the polls. but i know you see it in people's faces, and you're moving all over your constituency. >> good to be back, chris. good seeing you in the studio, by the way, you look great. thanks for having me. >> it is good to be here. do you have news for people tonight? is there something they should know? >> yeah, listen. we are taking this one step at a time. you're absolutely right the

curves -- that maps sh show icu beds, ventilators, sadly -- they're going in the right direction but not out of the woods yet. so we started to take baby steps or incremental steps. today, we announced a big one. a week from tomorrow, from memorial day weekend, under certain constraints, we're going to have beaches open on the jersey shore. that's a big step. we take it very seriously. we did it, in coordination with the shore communities and counties. we're letting them -- they've been great partners, by the way -- we're letting them execute the details in each of their communities. but this is a big step for us. >> scary, i know, we've talked about this before. beaches, especially. the culture of beach going is to be around each other. you're around each other in the water. you're around each other on the sand. what are the parameters? and what are your concerns? >> yeah. the big -- the big parameters

are twofold and not surprisingly. number one, capacity. so we opened, you'll recall, last time i was with you, we were going to open state and county parks. and that's gone quite well. new jersians, by the way, from the get go, have been extraordinary in complying with all of this. and that includes parks. the two big mantras there were social distancing and limiting capacity. in that case, it was limiting the parking lot capacities. we, also, are begging people to wear face coverings. similar approach to beaches. social distancing enforced locally and capacity executed locally. and you know the jersey shore that might be selling half the tags, the daily tags they would normally sell in one community or in island beach state park, limiting parking spaces. but those are the two big -- those are the two big themes of the constraints. and we've got, as i said, great

cooperation from the communities and the mayors. and, god willing, we'll be able to pull this off. >> now, when you say face coverings, at the beach, you got to wear a mask? >> recommended, strongly. frankly, we don't want to put something down that we don't feel that we can enforce to the max. and we think, at the beach, that's going to be hard. we've had the same imploring at the county and state parks. frankly, that's the one area where the compliance has been lower than we'd like. so we're going to amp up our communications. at the -- at the beaches and the parks, on the highways, we think face coverings, they don't trump social distancing. but they're a close second. >> the idea of what happens if it goes wrong? in three weeks, if you start to see case pops, what are you willing to do? >> we'll have to -- we'll have to pull back, chris. we'll have no choice. again, we, also, have to remember the tragedy within the

tragedy, right now, is that oat long-term care facilities, which have been ravaged in the united states but, certainly in new jersey, it's at least half of our fatalities. and we're doing everything we can to get our arms around that. so you've got sort of different elements of where we're getting hit hard right now. but if we have to, whether it's parks, beaches we're opening up. i hope elective surgery. we just did construction. curbside pickup of nonessential retail. we'll do pools. charter fishing. we're doing these in steps. and we are trying to monitor each incrementally. and, if we have to pull the brakes, we will do that. >> that'll be a tough call but it is good that you're giving people warning, ahead of time, that that is your option. governor, as long as you're straight with people and you give them the numbers, to the extent that you can, i know you don't have the money and the manpower capabilities to do the testing and tracing that you want to. but i know you're trying.

and as long as you're straight, you will always have an opportunity other o hehere to g case to the people of the state and the country. good luck what you're doing, governor. >> great to be with you. thank you. >> why do i say good luck? just so you know, the governor can go he's very busy. i don't believe in luck. sometimes you have preparation meeting opportunity but i don't believe in luck. you get what the likeliest outcome is. nobody wants to see people get sick. okay. i don't want to see people go to the beach and get sick. i want to see them have a good time, not get too sunburned, sun tan, but you have to be prudent. and when you do things, you got to be ready for negative outcomes. it's good to hear the governor say if it goes the wrong way, i'll pull back. might not be popular but the right thing to do. listen to the scientists. that's what the ousted vaccine chief said on the hill today. what happens if they're not listened to? certainly, not by the white house, right? my next guest says everybody should be resigning. if you don't like how it's going, resign.

and he knows bright and he is a top scientist, himself. let's talk about why he says that's the right course. next.

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cnn medical analyst professor arthur kaplan. professor, good to see you. >> hey, chris, how are you? >> so i'm doing well. thank god. rick bright said some damning things today. azar pushed back on some of them. the head of hhs. even if bright is right about everything, what's going to change? >> well, nothing's going to change. and i know bright a bit. and he's honest. he's dedicated. he's fact-driven. he is one of the most experienced scientists that had been around the white house over the past decade. expert on flu. expert on infectious disease. worked in private industry. worked at the cdc. this is a guy you want to listen to very carefully. what we're seeing the president do and his allies is try to suggest that this guy is some kind of disgruntled employee. of course, he's disgruntled. >> right. >> the administration is not paying any attention to science, and what they're doing is

attacking this guy, fauci, other others. it's clear that the new strategy is go to war on science. and i think it's nonsense. i think it's time for us to say, to scientists at the white house, federal scientists, and inde the whole scientific community but mainly people at the white house, it's time to rethink resignation. the reason i say that is, if trump is going to distort things, if trump is going to basically put his science under attack, just be window dressing for a fact-free day of policy, is not something scientists should do. >> professor, just for the audience's edification and judging what is about to happen, if i were going to believe one of the two of us, it would be you, ten times out of ten. that said, i don't agree with you, for the first time ever, professor, and i have been talking to you for well over a decade. if they resign, then, we lose the only competency that we have in the place.

god forbid tony fauci says, you know what, i'm tired of the media trying to play got ya with me and put me in a box where i have to correct trump and trump talking trash. i'm out of here. can you imagine how desperate a day that would be for the american people? and if we lose the competent minds, then all you have is trump and the minions. >> well, you know, we've got trump drinking bleach. and. >> god forbid. he did kind of suggest it. >> and i am hearing this. i hear what you a're saying, chris, you know, are you really going to have the last competent members jump off the ship? but if he's got them under attack, and he's already decided he's not paying attention to them, we're at the spot you don't want to be at. he is taking them out of the box. so the reason i'm talking resignation, and i would like to see some noise made by our

medical societies. like, let's knock off the war on science, mr. president. let's get him and his allies to say we're not going to try and disparage those who try to give us data and the facts. chris, you know, if he is just going to bring these people out there when he feels like it and then do what he wants or make the facts up. that seems to be where we're at right now. we need a tough response. i don't want, you know, the only competent people around washington to run away. look. i know the history of epidemics. you know how many epidemics were cured by politicians? >> zero. >> were cured by right-wing militia? zero. polio. small pox. scientists did it. doctors did it. that's who we have to turn to, if we're going to beat this thing. but if he is just going to basically say i don't care and his white house is going to say, you know, you're just under attack, then we need a counterresponse that says we

aren't going to put up with this. you can -- you can -- you know, ignore the data if you want. but you can't disparage it. you can't walk up the science guys' hallway where half the people that are supposed to be speaking about the science seem to have disappeared like it was chilly. >> well, as long as they are able to do their jobs and get the policies in place, and get the money where it needs to be, then, i think that the war of words, leave it to the president. leave it to the polls. and the emphasis that i think you're asking for, i, frankly, think we need to see more of it in the media. chase trump about what he says but don't chase the scientists about what trump says. and, when they speak about science, keep it at that. don't ask trump about science. he doesn't know science. and he only muddies the waters in a way that the scientists can't fix. but i get what you're saying, art. the professor is asking for accountability. and, at the end of the day, that is the media's job to do, through exposure of the truth. and it's the people's job to deal with the truth, at the

polls. >> and this sort of, you know, if you will, public shaming of dr. bright, who is supposed to be the guy who was going to lead us to a vaccine. who told us that they had to plan. who basically said the vaccine sfa statements coming out of the white house are a dream, which i happen to agree with. this 6-month, 12-month business. it doesn't make any sense and no one knows better than he does. but i think if you ask most experts, they would agree. we got to get the science back. so you and i aren't fighting so much to say, look, if there's this war on these -- on our science. if we don't care about data. if we are going to disparage it, make it up, basically denigrate those. that's got to stop. and i'll go all the way towards saying then threaten the resignation or let's have a day of protest. and let's get the media onboard saying, you know, we're tired of just taking the best scientists we've got, and putting them on these show trials.

this isn't north korea. >> i'm with you. you listen to the scientists about the science. you don't ask a president about the science, when you know he doesn't understand anything about it. and you hold the science -- you hold the science sacrosanct by not muddying it with the president's mouth. go after the president for what he says. keep the science separate. we'll be okay. but, professor, i get your frustration, and i get your desire for keeping science above the fray. appreciate it. be well. god bless. >> thank you, chris. >> all right. so the president is thrilled about wisconsin because it's bustling again. he wants to reopen. he doesn't give a damn how you do it. and that is not just offensive to science, it should be offensive to you. what you're seeing now, god bless them, i hope they're all well and healthy. it's stupid. maskless customers, flooding bars. what do we know? distance and duration equal spreading of this disease. why are we doing this? we have the governor, next.

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crazy situation in wisconsin. it really is. now, governor tony evers is joining us now. he calls the situation in his state the wild west. now, here's the scary thing, as he well knows. geographically, wisconsin is really like the middle of the country. and, metaphorically, it is, literally, the middle of the crossroads that we're at. reopen or not reopen is not a proposition. you have to reopen. staying closed is -- is death, over time. it's pain. it's distress, before that. but, over time, it will be death. people's dreams and livelihoods will die. but, look at their case curve there. this is what i want to be the context for our conversation.

it is going up and up and up. okay? how do you look at this case curve and not think that how to reopen has to have conditions? so, here's what happens in wisconsin. they have a state law that makes them different than -- than new york and a lot of other states and places that have high cases. we'll bring the governor in now, so he can tell me if i am getting any of this wrong. welcome to "prime time," sir, it's good to have you. so your state has a law that says this kind of order has to be done through the appropriate state agency which, in this case, is hhs. then, they sue you. essentially, the republicans in -- in the state legislature. and they win because the court says, yes, you cannot have unelected lawmaker -- unelected people doing the equivalent of making law. that, that has to be through an elected body. so that law is in conflict with this ruling. and, really, it leaves you in nowhere land because you can't

fix it by just doing it yourself. i thought that would be an end around. no, the state law says you can't. so there is no way, unless your legislature wants to, for you to have a rule in wisconsin that people need to stay home or some degree of that? >> that's absolutely right. and not only -- it's -- it's different. it's more than just the state law. the republicans convinced four supreme court justices that, a, facts don't matter. b, the law doesn't matter and, c, that presidents don't matter. so it -- it -- it -- you know, they talk about unelected person. she is not unelected. she is appointed by me. she is an outstanding health -- health policy person. but the bottom line is, it was -- it was -- it was a horrible decision. not unexpected. not unexpected because, clearly, there were four justices that were looking for any way they could to -- to concur with

republican majority in the legislature. so it happened. and, now, we have the wild west. >> so, when you say wild west, everybody is going to reopen. you have to. it's about -- it's about life and, let's be honest, the american people. i know the polls say 60, 70, even sometimes touching about 80. we don't want to reopen too soon. we don't want to do it the wrong way. i don't buy the polls. people want to reopen. it's always been about how? will the republicans in your legislature work with you so that how does not look like what i am seeing right now, which is basically the most dangerous way to have people in proximity, over time. >> absolutely. the first -- it was within hours of this decision, the wisconsin tavern league sent out a notice to all their members saying you're open, get open. and that's how it plays out. you know, anybody that, you know, you don't have to be a science person. you don't have to be a

politician to figure out you got a lot of people in a place and you're going to -- you're going to spread a disease. and so, no, there are -- there are -- there are no solutions to this problem, chris. and, on top of it, we just came off a marquette poll that said 69% of the state supported my administration. our metrics, frankly, by donald trump's metrics which were pretty hi-- on a per-capita bas. so we are in a good place. we just did do some opening up. we brought 14,000 small businesses online, with 90,000 people. the day after that, there's some irony about that. the day after that, we were -- we were doing things slow, deliberately, thoughtfully. the day after that, the supreme court says, well, we don't care

about facts. we don't care about the law. we don't care about precedent. we are going with the republican legislature. now, we have -- there are some counties that said we're sticking with a safe route home. we are going to stay tough on this. we have others saying doesn't matter. bring it on. and it's -- it's confusing to people. >> so it's county by county? who -- who decide what can happen and where? >> well, if -- if the counties don't take any position, then, whatever they want to do, they can do. it's -- it is -- our state is open. from top to bottom. and there are a handful of counties that said they have the ability, under state law, to say, no, we're not going to be open. wref we have -- we have to take care of the people. now, chris, what drives me nuts is that, all along, i've been told by business folks in the state of wisconsin that, a, people have to feel comfortable and confident in their health

and safety or they're not going to be consumers. they're not going to be good customers. and they're not going to be good workers. and this confusion takes us back. it is a step in the wrong direction. we were headed in the right direction. >> well, look. here's the thing. for better or worse, you guys are a laboratory now and we will see in about three, four weeks or so, where the cases are because you guys did this at a bad time. your cases are not plateauing, and they're not on the way down so we'll see what happens. god willing, it's not a tragedy there because nobody wants to see that. but, hopefully, we'll see what happens. and it somehow opens our eyes to what prudence should look like. governor evers, anything we can do to help the cause of informing the public and giving the reality, we're a call away. >> thanks, a lot, chris. appreciate the time. >> absolutely. all right. the case in georgia. of ahmaud arbery. can't let up on the investigating because we're still not hearing anything.

and, look, i know they're supposed to be able to investigate in peace. but not when two months and nothing happened. we have not heard from the inside of the case for the accused. until now. they say the public is rushing to judgment. so, what should slow down a rush to judgment? what do they have to offer? next.

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all right. for the first time, we are hearing from the lawyers representing the accused in the georgia shooting case. gregory and travis mcmichael. the father and son are facing murder charges, in the shooting death of the 25-year-old ahmaud arbery. now, we have martin savidge on the story in glenn county, georgia. it's good to see you, my friend. counsel for the accused tells the news conference today did

they offer anything that changes what is known in the public record? >> right, chris. good to see you. there are two defense teams, as you know now because we have two people charged in this particular case. greg mcmichael, the father, he is represented by a husband and wife defense team. they are out of macon, georgia. they issued a brief statement that goes something like this. while the death of ahmaud arbery is a tragedy causing deep grief to his family. a tragedy that, first, appears to many, to fit into a terrible pattern in maesh o americameric case does not fit that pattern. and, then, there is travis mcmichael. he is the one that was holding the shotgun that eventually went off and killed ahmaud arbery. his defense team. they are from decatur. they spoke out and basically said, look, everyone's seen the video. they've heard the narrative. but they shouldn't jump to conclusions. here's what they said. >> don't rush to judgment. we will be presenting our evidence in a court of law.

whether it's in glen county or some place else, the government will have an opportunity to present its evidence, in a court of law. and, then, and only then, then, you can judge. >> then, you got this rebuttal that came from the attorneys that are representing the family of ahmaud arbery. and they went along and said that, yeah, the attorneys with travis mcmichael are right. the justice system should afford all citizens the presumption of innocence, and there shouldn't be a rush to judgment or stereotyping. but then, they went on with this line. we only wish that their client travis mcmichael had provided the same presumption of innocence to ahmaud arbery, before chasing and killing him. so, chris, the legal lines are being drawn. >> yeah, you know, it's interesting. there's a contextual play here that, really, doesn't fit. the pattern that we're used to in this country. these two were not police officers. they had no color of authority. and, it's interesting to hear

the counsel reuben saying we will present evidence at trial. will they? they're going to put on a case in chief. you know, the defense has no-such requirement on it. the prosecution does. they have the burden. it's very interesting to hear from counsel that it seems they assume to put on a case in their defense. that is, actually, noteworthy. many don't do that. >> one of the things that's, also, noteworthy is that, in that news conference that was held for the team that's representing travis is that they said, just because someone has died, it doesn't mean that there was a crime. so, clearly, self-defense is going to be played very highly in this. >> self-defense is going to be played high. i think it will be a better avenue, legally, for them, than the citizens arrest statute. again, these were not police officers. they do not get the presumption of a use of force in the line of their legal rights and responsibilities, here.

it's a narrowly defined statute. and we know more and more now, in part -- large part, thanks to you, martin, that these two men very well may have taken off after arbery on the 23rd because they thought they knew him from an event on the 11th. and, whether they were right or wrong, it's going to put them in a tough spot to justify their actions with the prosecution. what else are you hearing? >> well, one of the interesting things that came out yesterday was this note. there is a memorial set up in scintilla shores and got a small area where ahmaud arbery fell. and people left things, as they do, in these cases. there was a note left behind and i will just read you a bit of the text. it says ahmaud, i am so sorry, i should have stopped them. i'm so sorry. that sounded, to many, like a confession and it triggered an immediate buzz of people thinking, well, wait a minute. is there someone in the community here that may have seen something or participated in some way that, now, has had a change of heart or a change of

mind? the gbi investigated, and they put out a note today. they said the gbi has identified the individual that wrote this note. the individual is not connected to the ahmaud arbery murder investigation, in any way. this person was expressing their condolences for arbery's death. so it just shows you that emotions continue to run very high in this case and in that neighborhood. >> boy, i got to tell you. it's an impressive change in play, also, in a case where they did nothing for months. the idea that the gbi could trace down somebody who left a random note at a memorial, very interesting. martin savidge, thank you for your continued depth on this story. appreciate it. all right. now, another story that we got to kind of get you straight on. this new coronavirus warning for kids. i know this is very scary. we are getting the volume of response. i feel it. i got a kid who had covid. now, he's sleeping like 12-13 hours a day. i heard about these warnings issued by the cdc. it got me just as worried as the rest of you. so i promise you, we're taking

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new york state health department tonight is looking into over 100 cases of a rare covid-19 related illness in children. it is believed to be covid-19 related. what are the symptoms? persistent fever, inflammation, poor function in the organs.

kidneys, heart. abdomen pain. does this shatter the notion that children are immune to anything to do with covid-19? that's the question that our chief doctor sanjay gupta took a closer look at this unusual pediatric covid-19 disease. >> my stomach started to hurt. and it felt like my legs were weak. and i was tired. >> i started having blue lips. her extremities were cold. this is not a normal flu. >> did you think this might be a covid-19 or coronavirus? >> my wife thought it was a possibility. she called the to see if she could get tested. she didn't meet the criteria. she was a healthy 12 year-old.

>> by that evening, juliette was nearly dead. >> they had me leave the room to intubate her. and she went into cardiac arrest for two minutes. and performed cpr. >> what was her condition when you first saw her? >> she was about as close to death as you can get. >> a pediatric cardiologist for children. in new orleans. >> her heart was barely squeezing. she was going into kidney failure. liver failure. intubated and put on a ventilator. >> it's hard to believe we are talking about this same beautiful little girl. it's also hard to believe all of this was possibly related to covid-19. a disease that wasn't supposed to severely effect kids. now it has a name. multi-system inflammatory syndrome in children. >> there's cells and cell signaling.

that is going crazy. that's creating a lot of inflammation effecting the heart. the liver and kidney. and really all the cells of the body. >> it's been described as a kawasaki like disease. that's another inflammatory disease common in children. awful rashes, a strawberry appearing tongue and destructive inflammation. this is also different. there are so many questions. like why now? why months into the pandemic are we first seeing this? why so devastating to the children many united states and europe. but not asia. >> we have interesting information coming in from japan. as well as korea and taiwan. that no one there that we have been in contact with has seen this severe form of the collapse in children.

>> director of the kawasaki disease clinic. in san diego. >> no one can tell you for sure that these sars virus is a trigger for kawasaki disease. but there's certainly is circumstantial evidence. >> we're seeing this in kids who don't have active covid-19 infection. some of them do. a lot of them are testing positive for antibodies. >> a study published wednesday found the numb of children diagnosed with kawasaki like disease in italy jumped 30 fold after the pandemic over took the region. still in the united states as frightening as it is, for now it appears rare. juliette was discharged after ten days in the hospital. >> how are you feeling now? you look great. >> i'm feeling good. and there doesn't seem to be long term effects. >> are you back 100%?

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