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>> reporte compliant. they want to get back to work and do what they can to participate. they don't care about your financials, it is about your health and that's all it matters. >> it is an enormous test. >> stephanie elam. thank you for joining us as well. we'll see you back here tomorrow. brianna keilar picks up our coverage right now. i am brianna keilar, this is cnn's special coverage of the coronavirus pandemic. as all 50 states are reopening. more than 90,000 for death toll and confirmed cases in the u.s. have topped 1.5 million. the treasury secretary warned a damage if the economy is not opened. we'll get to details on that in just a moment.
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first we begin the president's effort to deceive and distract the staggering of lives in this country and his administration response to this crisis. he's floating baseless conspiracy like he made against president obama and his challenger. he lied in his fight against the world of his health organization. he included a claim of the medical journal's warning that the medical journal says does not exist. he fired the government watchdogs bringing a total to fiver. three of them is just april. the president slams the media and endorsing violent attacks against reporters. he continue to tout unproven drugs. he says he's taking hydroxychloroquine himself to help to prevent the virus.
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>> i have taken it for a week and a half now. i am still here. let's go to kaitlan collins and dana bash. our chief correspondent, dana, you covered the white house a capitol hill for years and you cover crisis of the administrati administration. have you seen a situation where a white house is flat out screwed up something. have you seen them spent resources wasted on this kind of thing? this blame game instead of dealing with this huge problem. >> look, all of this is unprecedented from the virus and the administration handling or not handling of this.
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that's an important thing to say over and over again. as for the president not wearing a mask saying that he's taking this drug and urging staying quote on quote, "liberate." this is the president turning back on what he calls wartime president to running for reelection president. he appealed to his base in the way he did successfully in the 2016 campaign and not so much leading up on the midterm elections. he's hoping to get enough people that's still on the trump camp and on this issue being on the trump camp means we are ready to reopen, why is the heavy hand still on us and pushing down the
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economy. it does not get more complicated than that. >> kaitlyn, he just spoke to reporters, what did he say? >> reporter: what we should know right now that he's about to have lunch with them, they're not going to be tested for coronavirus before the president arrives or before that lunch happens. that's another question that we'll be focusing on today. the white house has been testing everyone who come into contact with the president for sustained periods of time. for here the white house before the president left, he talked about the late night letter he published on twitter talking about how he's going to cut-off funding to the world health organization if they do not make major changes. he's not saying what he want to see change with the w.h.o. a reporter asked him specifically just a few moments ago. >> basically they have to clean
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up their act. they have to do a better job. they have to be much more fair to other countries including the united states or we are not going to be involved with them anymore. we'll do it in a separate way. >> the u.s. is the biggest donor to the w.h.o. it is unclear what the president is going to do. we know he criticized the w.h.o. and many leaders have as well. the president taking china at their words and having a slow response of the outbreak. brianna, i want to note one more thing is the vice president just told fox news he's not taking hydroxychloroquine. that's a surprise. unproven drug that the president announced yesterday. the president started taking around the time we reported. one of his staffers tested positive, the president had a staffer tested positive for coronavirus.
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a staffer who had not been at work for the last two weeks. he's not following the president's footsteps when it comes to that. >> dana, the president taking this drug, right? he's been taking it of ahmad concern that he's been exposed to coronavirus and even then he's not wearing a mask. >> what kind of message does this send to americans? >> a mixed message. this is the thing. >> donald trump is susceptible to coronavirus like all of us are. he's the leader of the free world. he's the president of the united states and example setting is so key for any president of any party. at any time but particularly when you look at a pandemic and when i say sample setting is how
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do you act and especially he's pushing states to reopen. how do you want them to do in a safe way. >> the mask situation, we have been talking about and kaitlan has been reporting it. it is not to see that changing. it is not who the president is. hydroxychloroquine is who the president is. >> he's been pushing it for two months and he's been doing it at the beginning. and what he heard from friends and doctors of who he knows and now he's doing it to spike his own fda saying there is no proof that it could help and in some ways it could hurt if you have a heart condition so far. he's going to do what he wants to do and he wants to prove himself right. he's going to say because he's taking that drug even though
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there is no way to prove that. >> thank you. let's talk about this with our assistant doctor of medical school infectious diseases. so doctor, in one case you are looking at whether it works when it comes to actually combatting caused by the virus, can it be used to prevent covid-19 and getting coronavirus as the president appears to be using it? that's why we are doing a clinical trial. our trial is investigating whether hydroxychloroquine can prevent covid-19. the answer is we don't know.
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the reason to do the study because we don't know if hydroxychloroquine has activity against covid-19 or if it is in effective. is it odd to you that he's ta taking a drug that's unproven and requiring some investigations but this is the president investigating himself. is that something that strikes you as odd? >> it is important to do the research to understand if the drug has an effect. the risk of side effects out weighs any benefits. we don't know if there is a benefit of taking hydroxychloroquine in this pandemic. >> the president's valet tested positive for covid, that was about the time the president was asked for this drug and inquired
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about this drug. what do you make of that? >> it sounds like he was trying to take it because he was at that high risk of infection. there are studies looking and trying to evaluate whether hydroxychloroquine is useful if you have been exposed to a high risk person. the results are not out yet. we don't know if it is effective at all or has any benefits. if he's taking this under the assumption that he could contract the virus. should he be wearing a mask? >> that's hard for me to comment on. per cdc's recommendations, everyone should be wearing a mask especially if they are not
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in social distance. we are all wearing masks in any public settings. generally masks are better to protect yourself and protect the public. >> so as you study this drug, hydroxychloroquine, when you are looking for subjects, is there subjects in the study and do you screen them out if they have common heart disease? >> we do. >> we are looking at high risk healthcare workers and first responders because those are the highest risk people in our community that are exposed to covid-19. what we do is we screen them for und underlying conditions. there is a whole host of criteria like if they have kidney disease or other complications to this drug, we screen those people out so we are selecting a population that
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would not be at high risk for bad adverse outcomes. >> he has. the president has common heart disease. is it responsible that he would have been prescribed this? is it possible that his health could be compromised by this? >> i am not going to comment on the president's heart disease because i don't know what type of heart disease so it is i irresponsible for me to comment. if you have a known risk and other medication indicated if you are on hydroxychloroquine. >> what we do know is a common heart disease so i know probably that does not tell you everything you need to know. we are aware that he has some concerns when it comes to the heart. so i won't ask you specifically of the president there. i don't want to put you in a bad
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situation. you are screening out people who have common heart disease. >> we are screening people with structural heart disease. any structural defects and people with arrhythmia, known heart problems. >> so you think they may be perfectly fine taking hydroxychloroquine but you think only in a setting where it is like i guess a study, not necessarily a proourven course treatment? >> yes, i think it is important to consider this drug in clinical trial settings. that's how we'll get an answer to whether hydroxychloroquine has a therapeutic or any effects against covid-19. i would not recommend taking
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this outside of clinical settings because we do not know the benefits. >> hopefully americans are realizing that as they are listening to you, someone studying this at the highest level. we appreciate your input. doctor, thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> tense moments on capitol hill as lawmakers grills the treasury secretary over loans to small businesses. i will speak live to a salon owner in new jersey who defied the governor's order in reopening. and a disturbing study of what coronavirus do to people once they are infected, this includes dilerium. this is cnn's special coverage. ♪ you get way more than free shipping. you get thousands when you shop for your home at wayfair of items you need to your door fast
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the treasury chief warns today that the longer the nation is shout-down, moillions of people are out of work. and this comes after a new report found the treasury had spent little of the $500 billion that congress allocated for businesses and state and local governments. democrat brown pressed mnuchin on the risk of reopening the economy too soon. >> pushing people back into the workplace, there is no national program to provide worker's safety and the president says reopen slaughter houses and nothing about slowing the line down and nothing about getting protective equipment. how much workers should give their lives to increase the gdp
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or the dow jones. >> no workers should give their looif looi lives to do that. i think your characterization is unfair. >> larry, first i would ask you did you think mr. brown's characterization was unfair? >> no. i thought it was broadly appropriate, secretary mnuchin and the trump administration have a right to be concerned of getting the economy going. what they are wrong about is thinking you could just decray it and have it be so. the country should be doing a far ambitious program of testing and contact tracing and far more ambitious program of encouraging people to wear masks and far more ambitious program of being
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carefully strategic about which area you open up and which area you strengthen the protections here. if we do that we can have a stronger economy and better health status for our people. for the economy opening up when people are still scared. you look at the consumer sales data in a state like georgia that tossed things right open or a state like new york where things are restricted. there is remarkably little difference. the reason is people are not going to go out and do a lot of economic activities if they're still apprehensive. the real tragedy is the administration has set up this horrible argument about health
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verses economics and missed out on the medical of health investments that are likely to cut across both and could enable us to do better in terms of protecting the population and our most fundamental objectives and strengthen the economy. this kind of policies being suggested is an invitation is a catastrophic second wave. >> making people feel more afraid to participate in the economy. when you hear this report, you are one who can tell us whether this is normal or not. this report that the treasury spent little of $5 million allocated for businesses and state and local governments, is that troubling to you? >> is that is normal at this point in time? does that raise concerns? >> part troubling and part less
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worries to me. it is egregious that we are not giving money to local and state governments if they are going to fight crimes or fires or hospitals or ready of what's going to be a difficult hot summer. the failure to disburse money to local governments is inexcusable. the early statements of the treasury were not careful enough that we are doing it in ways that maximize the interests of the broad american people and not just the interests of shareholders. i think that it was a huge error on the part of the treasury to give large grants to the airlines with no expectations of
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repayment. if rewiwe are taking some time make sure our financial report for business is done in a way that helps workers and consumers and helps the economy and is not a bail out to their shareholders, i actually think it may be appropriate to take time whether that's what they are doing with the time or not, i am not really in a position to judge. we saw a certain amount of abuse in the ppp program, l.a. lakers getting financial assistance and being careful to avoid those errors in the future is the right thing, whether we'll find the right formula or not, i don't know. the administration does not have a terrific track record.
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>> so just a note at one of the things they are coming to look for assurances perhaps not as strong as you would like. larry summers, thank you so much for your input. >> thank you. >> next, i will be speaking live with the salon owner in new jersey who's set to reopen his shop. he'll talk to us why he's defying the governor. a new study shows if you have this heart condition, you may be at higher risk of dying from coronavirus. what is it? is airlines report an uptake in passengers? what you need to know about flying and the risks that's involved. ck w from home and here to help. hey lily, i'm hearing a lot about 5g. should i be getting excited?
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fearing they can't survivor. some owners are defying state and local owners to follow their own plan. new jersey's owner opening their doors despite the governor saying i had enough. they' the owner of this salon is joining me now, george, there are so many small business owners who are in the same situation like you guys. i understand this is a family's business and it is your father's salon. tell me why you are opening despite new jersey's orders. >> what it comes down is honestly we have families to feed and we have employees that have families to feed. we are told from governor murphy that we'll be opening 15-day and it went to 15 more day or 30. there is not a plan on his end what day to open up. we discussed with our staff and
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my partner and implemented all the proper sanitation stuff that we need to follow the guidelines. we decided june 1st, we'll reopen and we'll be ready for business. it is on them if they want to come into our salon. it is their choice just as our choice to open up. it is people's choice to stay home if they feel they are affected by covid-19. we'll take every proper measure and step and we'll be reopening. >> nick, tell us the steps? >> everyone is going to wear masks. if you can't wear masks, we have a protective cover for you. we'll have our staffs in protective equipment and we'll sanitize each station and leave 15 minutes between each client. we have 15 minutes to clean all the station down and wipe the tools off and have the customers wait in the car and when we are
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ready, we'll call them in. we went through extreme measures to get our license. >> we have strict code to follow sanitations. >> when it comes to spaces, we are spaced out. we'll limit everybody in and out of the building. >> nick, have you had any employees who had health concerns of coming back to work or have said i am not comfortable? >> majority of them are dying to go back to work. we have one employee she's a little concerned, we told her to stay home. i don't want to force anyone to do anything they don't feel comfortable. >> correct. >> will she get paid staying home? >> she's unemployment right now. they're collecting unemployment. >> the way we run our business is commissions.
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>> no, i understand. i want to ask you, george, actually both of you this, new jersey has been hard hit, you know that. more than 10,000 people have died there. >> your state is not out of the woods yet. do you worry, george, that opening your salon could contribute to people getting sick or maybe dying. >> you know i got to be totally honest, home depot is open and target and all these places are opening. i asked all scientists does covid only exists in air salons. the governor made it pareappare that this is not essential. i am concerned of everything. everything is concerning. we can't live in fear.
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after 9/11, we would all still be home. we can't live in fear. we take as much precautions as we can. from then on in, it is what it is. it is not about making money. it is about survival. we are trying to get our business opened and get our staff here working so they can feed their families. unemployment can only do so much. it is expensive toll li live he. >> sure is. >> it is nothing comparison in making in working at the salon. >> what will you do if you will get fined? they get fine to a tune of something they can't afford and ended up having to shutdown? >> be honest, we have legal council and we'll defer to them and let them take it up the chain of command and do what we have to do. if we got to pay to survive and let our employees survive, that's what it is about, it is about our team. i don't mind getting fines if
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the girls and men that work for me could support their families. i am taking that risk. >> nick and george, thank you for joining us. we'll keep an eye on things as you do reopen. we really appreciate your insight in this difficult situation for all small businesses. thank you. >> thank you. once you are infected, there are new warnings of the psychiatric problems that we'll discuss. the nypd shut down an orthodox jewish school over crowds. (♪)
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what can people do and i know some people if they had to fly for medical issues, what do they do to protect themts selves on planes? >> as much as possible try not to fly. it means some airlines are struggling to enable as much as social distancing on flights as possible. that's why we end ed up with these photos where they are stuck on the plane that's quite crowded. if it turns out that you have to fly then do some planning in advance. book with a carrier that's perhaps keeping middle seats semity empty and try to book the isle seat. and pack your gloves and pack your ppe. in some airports across the country, tsa are doing
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temperature checks. and same thing when you are on the plane trying to keep your masks on as much as possible, wipe down those high contact area that others are touching too. stay hydrated. be ware when you eat or drink, you have to take off your mask and you want to minimize that as much as possible. >> is there an issue of recirculated airs th that may m it worse in other confined areas. >> that's not really true. you are not breathing in the same air for like a four-ohour flight. the concern is you can't control. at least you can pull yourself out of that situation but you board a plane and it is packed and you are sitting in coughing
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kind of trap. that's why the advise is not fly if you really, really need to. >> as we heard from some airlines, some people are not wearing masks and they're not enforcing it. they're encouraging it. there is a 19new study foun patients hospitalized for coronavirus having hallucinations. tell us what the dangers are associated with these symptoms. >> this is a very large study that came out of the u.k. they aggregated 72 studies looking at data on 3,550 people who did not just suffer with severe covid-19, but they also look back receivsuffering with virus including sars and mers. be aware that this infection is causing depression and fatigue
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and anxiety and ptsd in people. of course it is lumping into people who have sars and mers all together. we should not focus on physical manifestation but also be mindful of what your mental health needs and now and in the long run. >> dr. seema yasmin. thank you. how california is training thousands to track cases and some colleges are shaking up their fall schedules to avoid a second wave this fall semester. here is the plan from one university, next. ] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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colleges and universities are being forced to rearrange class schedules for the fall sples er many are trying to resume and avoid a second wave in september and october. notre dame, purdue, creighton and university of south carolina will resume, but end classes before thanksgiving. creighton will go a step further, ending its fall semester before thanksgiving. i want to bring in the president of creighton. so tell us how you came to this decision, to allow students back to campus and they'll be leaving before thanksgiving. >> we're excited tower our
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student community and faculty and staff back on campus. we want to do so with all the safety and protocols as possible. we certainly don't think we can outsmart the pandemic, but we believe we are poised to have a safe environment. we anticipate a flu and cold season coming up. that would be confusing for any of us to try to understand who is sick and what do they have, so trying to end the semester about of that occurs, and in anticipation of the second wave of the pandemic, we said to get this semester started and ended on an earlier schedule. we've also been able to work out -- go ahead, please. >> i'm curious, you know, how do you protect everyone? this is what so many universities are grappling with. how do you protect everyone, especially with kids living in dorms? >> we're going to work on issues around density both 1/2 residence halls and classrooms
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and courtyard. we want to provide ppe for folks, other kinds of protocols that can ensure that safety for us. >> so, then, if there is a second wave that hits before thanksgiving, are you ready to make maybe a different plan than you originally put in place here? >> we are. we actually have a full complement of health science and health care programs on this campus, all from medicine to nursing to dentistry to therapies, so we're turning to our faculty and staff and getting a lot of advice. we have an epidemiologist with us and healthcare enterprise, so a lot of good consultation and partnership. we rotated to full online earning on monday, march 23rd. we did that pretty easily as most institutions were able to do so. i was surprised how quickly and effectively we maintained that.
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we learned how to do it quickly without a lot of notice, appeared we've asked our faculty and staff to be prepared to go back online quickly if we need to. >> you're on sort of the frontier of this, as so many universities are trying to figure it out and we certainly appreciate you talking to us. >> thank you very much. the president is taking an unprecedented drug. plus how the navajo nation has surpassed new york in the highest infection rate. and events and the risks they pose as we see more and more crowds. at university of phoenix,
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the stockpiling of groceries, toilet papers and other household items gave walmart one of the best quarters in decades. online sales are up 74%. let's look at the other big coronavirus headlines across the country. i'm sara sidner in arizona, the tribal headquarters of the navajo nation. this nation now how the highest rate of infection per capita for
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covid-19 in all of america, but the president of the navajo nation says there's a reason for that. they also have done more testing than any state in the nation with 11% of its people tested. 3900-plus people have tested positive for covid-19. they've had a spike in deaths this weekend. so they us have one of the strictest state at-home orders. marvs are required in public, and there's a curfew every night at 8:00. on the weekends, especially this weekend there was a 57-hour lockdown. the nypd has shut down a jewish orthodox school they say was operating illegally inside a brooklyn building. the nypd responded to the building after receiving community complaints there were students inside the building, that people inside were operating an illegal school. of course, all schools across the state and city have been
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shut since the pandemic. the nypd says they removed everyone and shut the building down. ai'm rosa flores in miami beach where they plan to reopen tomorrow morning, both cities allows retail stores to open at 50% capacity. barber shops will also reopen, restrictions will apply. restaurants will not reopen until next week. the city of miami will also reopen 26 parks for walking, jogging, cycling. in miami beach museums will reopen at 50% with harsh sanitizer. the area's popular beaches remain closed. i'm stephanie elam. california is growing an army of contact traitors. they plan on having 13,000 by the end of the month
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