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we don't have any profits right now. we don't know what the 18 months are really going to look like. we're talking about 25% capacity and then you add on all the ppe that we need to operate our restaurants. these plexiglas partitions, our single use menus. there's going to be a lot of additional burden that's going to be put on the restaurant industry in total, so we need to make sure that we have something that's there for us to access so we have an industry when this is all said and done. >> how concerned are you that the industry won't come back? is there real concern if you don't get this money that you have people without jobs? a lot of people, right? all across the country. >> the restaurant industry is vast. everything from mom and pop shops to high end restaurants. the small restaurants, something that's really close to my heart. those are the restaurants that, one, i like to eat in but also the ones that feed america. we need to make sure they have access to these funds so they're
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here at the end but i think we're going to come back. we're resilient. we're determined and we can get back up if we fall down. >> how hard has this been? you employ a lot of people and how hard has this been for them? >> it's been extremely difficult to not have the answers. we watch the news and try to see the unitpdates to see when citi are opening up. some cities open now and some in july. >> just to tell you, brianna, we could see two months before restaurants may even reopen in many parts of the country. here specifically in new york, restaurant owners don't expect to own until august or september in some cases. there's too much to be done but i spent a day here talking to the people who run this restaurant here. also, they say, money is the big thing right now. they need more help. they want to open these restaurants eventually, but without the money, they're not going to be able to do it and that's why they want to put
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pressure on washington, on the president to try to give them the money they're going to need to continue to employ people all across the country and as kwame said, that's key here. get the employees back in and they're going to need the help. so kwame, thanks for joining us. >> absolutely. >> and brianna, the money here is going to be the big thing and we have months to go before we see exactly what happens here in new york city. >> shimon, thank you for that report. it's the top of the hour. i'm brianna keilar and this is cnn's special live coverage of the coronavirus pandemic. at this hour, more than 93,000 americans have been killed by the virus, and as the loss of life mounts, the cdc director warns of a potential second wave. in the meantime, new research dives into the past showing how earlier social distancing could have saved thousands of lives. we'll have much more on the new models here in a moment. but first, to the president
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and his potential collision course with michigan's top law enforcement official. he's about to visit a ford plant that's manufacturing ventilators. the facility also requires everyone to wear a mask. but moments ago, the president wouldn't commit to following that rule. >> well, i don't know, we're going to look at it. a lot of people have asked me that question. i want to get our country back to normal. i want to normalize. i want to get the churches open. the churches are not being treated with respect by a lot of the democrat governors. we're going to take a very strong position on that very soon. >> michigan's attorney general has warned that if the president wears no mask, he will be asked not to return. the president updating reporters on the use of hydroxychloroquine, the anti- anti-malaria drug warned outside of clinical settings.
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>> i had a two week regimen of hydroxychloroquine and i've taken it, i think, just about two weeks. i think it's another -- very positively in another sense. so this morning, yeah. i tested positively toward negative, so no, i tested perfectly this morning. meaning i tested negative. >> cnn's erica hill in new york following the latest developments on the modelling and the states that are easing restrictions, and all 50 states, erica, now in some phase of reopening. some see signs of a spike. tell us about that. >> there's some concern about that, specifically about some of the states that opened earlier that eased social distancing earlier. warnings about those areas. they also say there's still time to reverse the trend.
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it could be leading them toward a potential spike. graduates faced six feet apart. the stadium at half capacity. >> i absolutely felt safe. >> reporter: hundreds of seniors accepting diplomas, hospitals maxed out. >> right now, if you're from montgomery and you need an icu bed, you're in trouble. >> montgomery, alabama, one of several areas that could see a rapid increase in new cases according to models from a team at the children's hospital of philadelphia. their findings show states opened early like alabama or are at particular risk. >> we need think less about opening and closing and more like expanding slowly, everyone needs to be working off of the same play book and right now, not every state is. >> reporter: starting today, you can go camping and eat inside at restaurants in ohio and west virginia. more than half of california's counties also clear for
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in-person. religious services resume in new york state with ten people or less, casinos along mississippi's gulf coast and graceland, ready to welcome visitors. more beaches and parks open across the holiday weekend but not the public beaches. in hard-hit new york city. >> my advice to people is keep it simple, keep it local. less is more. >> reporter: michigan grabbed national headlines for the tough stay at home measures begin easing more restrictions on tuesday allowing for in-person retail and gatherings of ten or less. one of 17 states reporting an increase in new cases over the past week. >> the scientific evidence clearly indicates that physical separation has worked but not completely. if you look at the curves in our country, it isn't like everything is dramatically going down. now is not the time to tempt
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fate and pull back completely. >> reporter: orlando's theme parks still figuring out their next steps. >> we'll reduce capacity so that we can maintain social distancing. and there are some attractions we'll have to change. >> reporter: a sobering report from researchers at columbia university find as many as 36,000 american lives could have been saved if social distancing measures were in place just one week earlier. the virus has now claimed more than 93,000 in the u.s. here in new york state, governor andrew cuomo saying we're on the other side of this mountain. of course, not fully out of the woods but cautiously optimistic about that. he was also asked specifically about things coming our way like summer day camp. until we have a better understanding of this multi-symptom inflammatory syndrome we're seeing in children linked to covid-19, 157 cases now investigated in new york, he said until we know more about that, as a parent, he would not send his kids to day
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camp and so therefore, he doesn't feel he can tell other parents to send theirs, brianna? >> erica hill, thank you. reporting from new york for us. for the men and women working at the nation's restaurants and stores, the return to work has also brought confrontations with angry customers. some of whom are refusing to wear masks. two men now face felony battery charges after this fight at a target in l.a. as the men were being escorted out of the store for not wearing face coverings, which have been required by the city since april 10th, one of the suspects turned and punched an employee, later breaking his arm. in colorado, man has been arrested for attempted first-degree murder for allegedly shooting a waffle house employee after he was asked to wear a mask. an affidavit said the subject initially placed a gun on the counter saying, i can blow your brains out right now but the shooting did not actually occur until the next day. with me now, mark parone, thank
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you for joining us, because you have over a million members who are in the u.s. and canada and as we see the increase in these clashes, what have they been telling you about how they feel? >> our members say they think the mask issue is politicized in a way, it's about protecting you and me. but the clashes and confrontations in the stores is in fact becoming more and more volatile. we believe that there should be security in the stores to make sure that the workers themselves don't put themselves in harm's way. it's just adding to the hazards that they're having to deal with over and above the virus. >> it's not just the physical altercations that we were
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talking about that have been making headlines. your union also has been involved in the fight to get fair pay for grocery workers. kroger replaced what was a temporary wage increase known as hero pay with a one time bonus and you told one of my colleagues that's unacceptable. what do you want to see instead? >> i'd like for them to go back to the $2 an hour pay that the other companies in the industry have implemented that safeway has done, albertson's has done, meijer's and upper michigan as well as the stater brothers. we've got on the east coast, all implementing that $2 an hour pay. the reason why it's so much different is that if you work the kind of ours our members are working, by giving a bonus, that ultimately means you're getting a pay cut that they were making more than that earlier. we had a woman yesterday that told us she's having to buy her
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own sanitation wipes and everything out of her own pocket because they can't get the supplies in the stores, and we just think they really ought to stand up and step up to the plate, and support those workers that are supporting the company. we know that the sales are up and we know profits are up and we know productivity is up. and we think that the workers deserve their share, that's what we think. >> back to the mask issue, with employees who you represent. why, when they tell you this has become a political issue where it's become negative for some people to wear a mask, what are these that i saying about why it's become a political issue? >> well, just a few minutes ago, you talked about what was happening in michigan, and whether or not the president was going to wear a mask going inside the manufacturing plant, i think it was a ford plant. when people aren't willing to respect each other's space, and
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you're not willing to protect somebody else, and i understand that we want to say that we're in america and this is about freedom and i'm all for that, i'll be honest with you, i am. but at this point in time, we can't do things that are going to put other people in harm's way, and while i am happy that you are a mask, i don't have the right not to wear one to protect you. and i just think that we need to be respectful. it's not a political issue. it truly is for us to be in this together. that's what we have to do. i hear all the remarks about we're in this together. well, we're only in this together if we're all doing it together, not if some of us are and some of us aren't. >> just real quick, marc, would it help protect the workers you represent if the president would wear a mask in public when he can't socially distance? >> yes.
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it would. it would be politicized, the issue. we all know what the science says. the science saying that's what we need to do. it's not a political issue. i've got republican members and democrat members and got independent members. that's not what it is about. and i really hate that it's turned into that. but we need to do the right thing by everybody. >> mark perrone, thank you for joining us. >> brianna, thank you so much. as cases are surging in southern states, i'll be speaking live with one city's mayor who says if you need an icu bed there right now, you're in trouble. plus, i'll speak with the nurse in this stunning before and after picture about how he survived weeks of the coronavirus. as universal studios gets ready to announce its reopen, we start to see more crowds across america. dr. sanjay gupta join me on the risk they pose.
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find and honor the veterans in your family. their stories live on at ancestry. you have probably heard about the miraculous survival story of the california nurse who contracted coronavirus and shared pictures of himself to show just how the virus ravaged his body. these are before and after photos of mike schultz. the photo on the left, of course, about a month before he got sick. he ended up losing at least 50 pounds after being on a ventilator for nearly 5 weeks. and mike schultz is joining us now. and mike, you are looking healthier than your after picture, so that is some very
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good news. how are you feeling? >> considering everything i've been through, i actually feel pretty good. i have a lot more energy than a couple of weeks ago. i'm walking around, outside a little bit, using the exercise bike, able to go up and down stairs, still have to take breaks and i get winded pretty easily but i am slowly, it is improving pretty much every day on that aspect. >> and we know you're from northern california. you were in boston when you went into the hospital. tell us how you felt, what your condition was that prompted you to say, i think i have coronavirus and i need to go to the hospital. >> yeah. well, obviously, i knew it was out there and didn't know how serious it was at that time, but i flew to boston on friday for the weekend to see my partner,
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josh, was fine over the weekend, then on monday, i was supposed to fly back to san francisco, and i started coming down with a cough and it was very persistent. it wasn't horrible. i was able to manage it with cough medicine, but then on tuesday, just started spiking a fever of 103. it wasn't going down and that breathing kept getting worse and worse. i was breathing like 50 times a minute, and it was very hard to breathe without -- felt like i had water in my lungs and couldn't take any deep breaths and i knew then, i should probably go to the e.r. and they took me in right away. >> they took you right away and then what happened? >> they took my vitals, did a
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covid swab up my nose and x-rays up my lungs. my oxygen level was really low. i think it was in the low 80s they they pput me on oxygen, st wasn't helping. x-rays revealed i had pneumonia in both lungs. the right side was worse, and that's pretty much the last time i saw josh for eight weeks because no visitors and i heard the doctor kind of speaking to the nurse that i would probably have to be intubated and that's when started being scared because, as a nurse, i knew what that meant. i'd have to be sedated and taken to the icu, and that's the last time i texted josh that's what was going to happen, and that i actually texted that i was scared, i obviously don't remember much after that because they started giving me medicine to calm down and control my
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breathing. >> so you were sedated and you were intubated and on a ventilator for six weeks, but when you woke up, you thought that you had only been really under for one week, and you also cried when you got a look at yourself. tell us what it was like for you to come off of the ventilator and realize what you'd been through. >> i wasn't so much sad for me, because i knew i was okay at that time. i was sad of what everyone around me was going through and i couldn't see them. i was able to facetime with them. they had an ipad there, that i was just really sad because i missed everyone and i had no idea how many people were pulling for me, and how concerned my family and josh and -- it was just a traumatic
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event. honestly, it was scary but the support of loved ones around me, it helped me get through it and wanted to get better. >> and mike, you bring that up. you said this is a traumatic event. we've been talking to a lot of experts here in recent days who say don't discount the trauma of what people are going through. it's not like you get off the ventilator, you get out of the hospital and everything is hunky dory. tell us about the long-term effect of this but maybe how this has kind of changed your perspective as well. >> yeah, definitely, like, i went into the rehab hospital right from the icu and that's kind of where the hard work comes. that first few days, i couldn't even sit up on the edge of my bed without feeling like i was going to pass out, but with pt, physical therapy in one week, i
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was able to walk around with no oxygen for a couple hundred feet and that's pretty much when i snapped back the after-poster, one week after i was able to move around, and yeah, i'm sorry, i forget the second part of your question. >> the mental health aspect. it's not like you get out of the hospital and everything's fine. you mentioned trauma, so i was wondering if you could expand on that. >> when i first woke up, it was probably from the sedation drugs, i don't know, i just thought there were a lot of monsters in the room and i was confused and agitated and even after that, i was very sad, and depressed. i was honestly, crying about everything, like my care and i
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thought i was going to be on a bench the rest of my life. it was hard to communicate because i had a trach in my neck. i couldn't even text or write because my hands were weak. it was frustrating and sad to communicate, and even today, sometimes, i think back about what happened and it kind of makes me tear up, but what i went through and what those loved ones around me went through, just worrying about me, it's going to take some time and probably a little bit of therapy or more to get back. >> definitely. you guys have been through so much, mike. you and your family and your partner. it's so good to see you feeling better. we know you still have a long road ahead of you but thank you for coming on and talking to us. a lot of people around the country are very interested in
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your story, so thank you. >> you're very welcome, i appreciate everyone's concern and kind words and definitely let them know, it helps. a lot of positive outlooks when i was feeling down, so. >> all right, thanks, mike, we appreciate it. see you later. >> thank you. in florida this hour, universal studios in orlando is announcing its plans for reopening. while all disney theme parks are holding off. cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta is here. we are waiting to hear, right, what safety measures the theme park is planning to implement, but i wonder how you foresee them pulling off this off. >> it's a really tough call, and a it have thitough thing. there's a little bit of guidance and what they're seeing in shanghai what's informing this because there's a theme park over there as well.
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going to look very different. i mean, i think that the idea that people generally know that being outside is probably better than being inside, significantly reduce capacity for the park itself, reduce capacity for the various attractions at the park. the biggest question, and i've had conversations with people around this topic at other major organizations who are thinking about how to reopen is public spaces, entry ways, exit ways, restrooms, shared handrails, seating, all these types of things. you disinfect, do all those things. if one person ultimately creates a viral load and it spreads on to objects again, has to be disinfected again. so this is sort of a constant process and on top of it all, amazing interview now with mike -- >> wasn't it, yes. >> people are frightened, right? so you're going there and you're not without adequate testing knowing, "a," am i potentially
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spreading the virus? i'm going to wear a mask, i'm going to do everything. what about that guy or that person over there? do they have the virus? it is that psychological inflection point with physical. that's one of the things, subjective, but how do you deal with that and provide that it's the safest environment possible? i think it's hard to do. >> i want to ask you about sporting events because ohio state is talking about holding sporting events and they're talking about social distancing. they have 105,000 person stadium there, they're talking about 20,000 to 30,000 fans there at football games. do you see that as possible? >> you know, i don't want to be the doom and gloom guy here. i love sporting events, although, ohio state, frankly, i could do without, i'm a michigan guy. >> sanj. >> yeah, but ohio has done a remarkable do
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remarkable job. a lot of people were surprised it seemed early at that point much than other places, so i think they've been thought aboutful abo-- this. but amusement parks or places like that, even if they do the best they can, it's not the parks but the duration and then the shared public spaces. people, again, i think if they're diligent about wearing masks, since there's a policy, we now have good evidence, brianna, that's really helpful. it's why some of the models decreased in terms of projected deaths, why? people are being fairly diligent about wearing masks, about 60% in some of the areas reopening much better than the modelers expected. people do that, i think it will help a lot but the problem s let's say somebody becomes infected, subsequently diagnosed. people come from all over to a football game or to a theme park, you have to contact trace them. by that point, they've come back into the communities and
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potentially start to seed other communitie communities. that's part of the difficulty with other events. not just time of the event but up to two weeks following when people could still be potentially spreading this virus. i don't like saying it because i love these types of events too but it's hard right now because the virus hasn't changed. it's still out there. i think it's going to be challenging in big public settings like that to provide the sense of security and safety that people are going to want. >> sanjay, thank you so much for the insight. you're dr. reality, not dr. doom and gloom. we appreciate the dose of reality. be sure to watch dr. gupta anderson cooper and for the town hall. first lady melania trump will send a message as well at 8:00 eastern tonight. moments away from the president's tour from the ford plant in michigan. the state's attorney general warning him to wear a mask but will he? as cases surge in southern states, live with the mayor of montgomery, alabama, warns
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place order to control the spread. the mayor of montgomery, steven reed joining me now talk about this. thank you so much for coming on. give us a sense. what is the state of your city and your hospitals right now? >> thank you for having me. our icu beds almost at capacity level and we're in a place that is manageable but not sustainable and when we think about this, the strain it's putting not only on our health care system but certainly those medical professionals involved, it's very alarming and probably started getting calls a week and a half ago from hospital administrators explaining to us the number of covid patients they were seeing. not just increasing but coming in worse shape so we thought we needed to remind our community that this pandemic is not over. we're still in a tough battle and now is not the time for us to relax.
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>> so you heard that about a week and a half ago, you said, from hospitals, and yet a week ago, restaurants, gyms, and salons opened up across alabama. so what do you think the spike is due to and are you fearful it's about to get a whole lot worse? >> i think it's hard due to the fact we opened up the economy too soon. i would have liked to see a more cautious approachto to us. i was a small business owner, i was in the restaurant industry. i understand the challenges there, but i think we went about it prematurely and you combine it with the fact people have stopped practicing some of the disciplines they had maybe just a few weeks ago when we were making progress has thrown us right back into this place where we are right now that we're in a very precarious situation across the board and we have to make sure we're doing things that are
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necessary to beat this covid-19 virus and to make sure that we aren't acting out of a sense of haste and out of a sense of premature relaxation of what we want to do in order to get back to our previous way of living and daily activities and things that we're all looking forward to doing, but not too soon. >> so you're considering issuing a shelter in place order. how do you think your city is going to react to that? >> well, my hope is that we don't have to do that. that's why we had the press conference yesterday to be transparent and let people know exactly where we stood in this community. we wanted to let them know that cases have more than doubled over the last month, and we have seen not only a rise in deaths but we also have seen a rise in positive cases, so we wanted to try throo let people know where are so they can go back to
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sanitary guidelines that they were using at the beginning of this pandemic. and the community has been great. they've really done a great job of going over and beyond to look out for their neighbors, their loved ones and to help even small businesses and entrepreneurs, but it's not over. and we can't decide when it's over. i think as dr. fauci said before, the virus will decide when this is over, and we aren't there yet in montgomery and other places are, so we wanted to kind of sound the alarm and remind people they should wear masks in public, continue washing their hands and disinfecting everything that they can, and most importantly, they should stay at home as much as possible even though restrictions have been eased around the state of alabama. >> so i'm assuming you're looking at some of these in person graduations of high schools in your state where many people are not wearing masks and that's probably the advice you have for those folks, right? they should not be out doing that. as you look at your icu beds
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being almost full, what do you think about those kinds of things happening? >> you know, i understand a family's joy in celebrating a graduate and celebrating a milestone and many families doing that with friends and classmates. i had a daughter who graduated college but commencement exercises were postponed until next year, so i understand that, but we can't get back into those habits and those behaviors at the risk of our loved ones, at the risk of people that we come in contact with, other coworkers and o and our colleagues. each statistic is a person, each statistic is someone that has a loved one that's counting on them and that wants them to be healthy, and so we're not going pulling ourselves at ri -- putt
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risk, not something i recommend but respect their rights to do what's in the best interest of their residents but in montgomery, alabama, we're not there yet. >> mayor reed, thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me. the urge to get back to normal is driving some bizarre innovations including plexiglas pods for restaurant tables and disinfectant sprayers at pubs, plus we'll take you live to brazil where nearly 20,000 new cases of coronavirus were just reported in a single day. if you have a garden you know, weeds are low down little scoundrels. draw the line with roundup. the sure shot wand extends with a protective shield to target weeds precisely and kill them right down to the root.
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deaths. cnn international security expert nick valencpaton walsh a of the largest cemeteries in sao paulo. what can you tell us? >> reporter: behind me, the new graves from april. i have to tell you, it's startling here. the scenes here. a funeral pretty much every ten minutes filling them up, and this is just the beginning. we were at a hospital earlier on where we spoke to a doctor and they believe here in sao paulo, close to capacity, the peak is possibly two weeks away, not even at it right now and an idea behind me here what they're kind of bracing themselves for because these are the empty graves, freshly dug. we just see how many thousands there are here. 8,000 dug since the pandemic hit here and expecting many more to be needed. now, the numbers are already staggering, brianna. the problem really is that
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they're not the full picture. testing simply isn't as widespread here as brazilians would like, and much of the problem, this is half of the new cases currently in latin america which i should point out over the last three days has in fact had more new cases than the u.s. or europe has. the government here giving contradictory advice and sometimes dangerous advice. president bolsonaro called this a little flu. a little bit more cautious in recent statements but the government too has recommended the use of anti-malaria drugs, you heard president trump talk about them and how he's been taking hydroxychloroquine himself as well but they don't have a proven benefit against coronavirus. in fact, some say they may even cause you harm. we spoke to a woman here who was burying her mother, her only mother taking hydroxychloroquine and that she blamed that drug
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for contributing to the death of her mother. as i speak here, another funeral procession passing by us. it is a startling sight to see. this is a density populated city in latin america where, as i say, the health care system is beginning to groan already. the icu we were in earlier, one of the biggest in this city is already full, and they're still two weeks away from the peak. this is going to get an awful lot worse. >> what practices are businesses taking, are individuals taking as you see them, nick? are they taking this seriously despite mixed messages from the government? >> reporter: yeah, so far, what we've seen here is they are taking it seriously. sao paulo is not the entirely of brazil. the government of this particular state is much clearer about the need for people to take preventative action. wearing masks anywhere you go and rare to see someone not wearing a mask. to some degree, that's being taken seriously but not about
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what you do now but two weeks ago when you could have been infected and still, so much of the time, brazil could have used to repair itself was perhaps lost toi lost to its president, there will be deaths but more if the economic damage is substantial as well. you've heard that kind of health versus wealth problem. no more acute frankly here where we see these numbers escalate so terrifyingly fast and i have to say, not really seeing anything quite so enormous in terms of effort in terms of this. this just tells you how worried sao paulo is about what the next few weeks could bring. i have to stress, they haven't hit the peak yet and their hospitals seems to be getting full. >> yes, you really put it into perspective there as you said, a funeral every ten minutes there in sao paulo there in brazil. thank you, nick, for that report. still, ahead, live in
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. golf superstars phil mickelson, tiger woods are teaming up with nfl stars tom brady and peyton manning this weekend for a golf charity evident that will benefit covid-19 relief efforts. they will make a donation of $10 million but even though it's all for charity competition is fierce among these four. >> i think we'll have a lot of fun. there's been a little trash
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talk, you know, as you've seen a little behind-the-scenes. there will be a lot more of that. i have to get it out early because once i'm out on the courts i'll be very quiet because of all the [ bleep ] shots i'll be hitting. >> joining me now, our sports commentator, brian anderson. i kind of enjoyed that. i'm looking forward to this match. i'm wondering what it will look like. >> in the middle of this heaviness anticipate you're doing a great job reporting all of that. we're glad to be able to present a little bit of a distraction and some entertainment. that's coming up sunday. golf felt like the first sport that was going to be able to offer that kind of entertainment value and so we found the match. it happened once before at thanksgiving 2018, tiger and phil. that was a much talked about. but this time around they added
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their quarterback fans, they will all be mic'd up. the charitable donations are in place for good reason. we can get that out of the way and watch these guys compete. it will be fun. five announcers basically all with microphones and four competitors all with microphones. what could do wrong. we have a lot of open mics out there. >> judging by those bleeps something may go wrong. >> tiger is on his home course. the last match was in las vegas. i think tiger feeling like he's going to do this again he wants this on his home turf. tiger and peyton manning will be a team and then tom brady and phil mickelson. i love those teams. i think we'll get a lot of banter back and forth. tiger and peyton have played in a lot of events together.
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they have been in pro-ams the together. played social golf together. peyton is like this world class trash talker, very subtle in the aw shucks way. he brings the best out of tiger. we have charles barclay in the booth with us. the 2008 master champion is with me. dust dustin johnson will be one of our announcers. a new experience for him. so, they will have ear pieces. they will be on a listen and interact. they will be in golf carts which is interesting. we'll have cameras in the carts. nascar style. so we'll be able to interact and charles will be able to throw his addition. charles is actually competing on one hole following the event. i don't know all the stakes just yet but we're the actually going to see charles swing a golf club which who knows how that will go. i hope he makes contact.
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the ground in michigan. he's about to tour a ford assembly plant about 30 minutes from detroit. the president made mitch the center of a big fight the past few days. in the mid-of a pandemic where that state is one of the hardest hit president trump is threatening to pull funding for the state. over politics. his dislike of mail in voting. something he has railed against without any credible reason. and it can't be ignored this is a state that's crucial to his re-election chances in the fall. a state he won by the narrowest of margins in 2016. but back to the pandemic at hand. ahead of the visit a major question has become will he or won't he wear a mask when visiting this plant? he's in the first event in michigan right now. no one has seen him yet since he entered the plant. but as he was leaving the white house this morning he was asked about this very thing. >> well, i don't know. we'll look a
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