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exacerbate that. they'll be out there. you will see more community healers and faith leaders and our elders and even our youths. you will see a shift in that. i am always hopeful because it is a safe community that supported me. all right, you have been listening to city officials in minneapolis, they have been speaking of the riot that erupted over the death of george floyd. the video shows the officer pinning him down by his neck and he died after. 30 fires reported and some buildings burned to the ground
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and stores were destroyed and looted. let's go to omar jimenez for the report on the latest here. omar, this is the police chief saying even though the police department let the community down, he's not going to let them be harm and affecting individuals there. >> reporter: that's right we heard from the police chief and the mayor of minneapolis jacob frey. they spoke about a change in m dynamic that we saw in regards of the protests we saw last night. the one last night did largely start eventually evolves into rioting and looting. this autozone was fully functional last night and just within a matter of hours was eventually on fire and burned down to the ground.
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you see fire crews continue to work on it as we speak. firefighters reporting at least around 30 fires during just the protest alone and in just these few blocks here. that's a scene when we got here in the early morning hours there were multiple buildings on fire, fires seemed to be jumping from building to building. over here this is the minneapolis police precinct would have been the center location for these protests. you can see how boarded up this precinct is because all the windows were smashed over the course of the past two days. they put up these fences that went up over the course of this morning and you see this group that is newly gathered here on my right shoulder here, they are gathered -- on the edge of their
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property. everyo even days after we see the death of george floyd. there are heavy tension within this community that we have seen it played out over the course of clashes and protesters. when you get back to the crux of why these protesters, it comes down to how george floyd died and how his death is now being treated. we see protesters and as we heard from the mayor of minneapolis sas 55 they want to see charges filed against these officers, brianna. >> the mayor says there was no reason. there was no protocols to have it hold on george floyd and we heard the police chief there an
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apology. how far do you think it is going to go omar? you have a lot of folks saying they want criminal charges. >> that's right. the apology does not go nowhere. it definitely helps out for relationships here. the fact they fire these officers as quickly as they did. we looked at all the ones we are seeing across the country. this one is unique in that aspect. the fire happens largely before the protests began. now we saw two nights of protests that's gotten worse and viole violent. whether we'll see charges at the federal level or the fbi investigation plays out or as these state investigations plays
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out. it is that next step that seems to be driving along these protesters here to come out and demonstrate because only then do they feel that justice is actually served because as one protesters put it these officers are still at home with their families while one man, george floyd, will never get the chance to go back to his. >> his family is devastated. we spoke yesterday with others who spoken to them. listening to officials there, they are urging calm and just give us a sense of, we see that autozone and i think there is a lot of concerns about people being injured of course as this happens. but, do you get a sense that this is going to be be continuing in to the evening, is there any way to gauge that? >> reporter: we are seeing protests being organized by social media for this evening.
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we are right around this point yesterd yesterday. what are we going to see tonight? we started seeing protests organized and even now we didn't see this yesterday as this point. this to me is an indication as the sun begins to go down, we'll see these numbers grow. we have seen every single night when these numbers grow, it begins to crowd some of these officers, that's when they begin to use crowd dispersing mechanism they have and that's throwing tear gases at some cases and we have seen some sun grenades used as well and n non-lethal palettes. you can see some of the scenes that played out that we have seen over the course of the past few days, protesting seems to be something that officials here
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have pushed for it saying it is every has tone has the right to but it is the next step of looting and rioting. they don't want to see that. they want floyd's memory and his position is heard in the hearts of the community. it is the next step that worries individuals. you heard the next dynamic, they worry about seeing for a third night here in minneapolis. >> officials seemed to be stressing. there were a lot of people there assembling peacefully in protests but obviously there were people who were not. we heard from the family, floyd's younger brother spoke to cnn and he shared this emotional plea. >> we need justice. >> those four officers need to be arrested. they executed my brother in broad daylight.
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people had to film that and see that. i see people doing a lot of different things around the world. i don't want to lash out but i can't stop people. they have the same pain that i feel. >> he's saying obviously this is coming from pain and it is coming from anger. you can see how he's certainly suffering there. i wonder, omar, can you tell us about the minneapolis police department and these officers. i think a lot of people are. what kind of pass do they have when it comes to perhaps excessive use of force? what's the culture there in minneapolis pd known to be?
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>> reporter: well, within this police department as we have seen troubles with police departments across the country, there are history of excessive violence and you talk to anyone in this community and the majority black community, you don't have to go far to hear some of those stories. one of the officers in particular when you look at the cell phone videos have been circulating. it is the officer that's standing in front of where you see floyd pinned down to the ground. we know there is an excessive force situation with him and 2017, it was settled eventually but that alone seems to be a red flag for many people in the community that you have an officer that even though it was settled prior, now involved in a situation that a man is losing his life. those are things that investigators are going to be looking into as well when they try to piece together if there is any potential motivation leading up to this. that's something we typically
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see on the federal side of this when they're looking at civil rights violations. regarding to the pain, the family and this community is feeling, you can see people walking by and in chants a few moments ago. all of it stemming from what ended being george floyd's final moment and some of his final words saying "i can't breathe" and a matter of minutes transitioning from saying those final words into what became internal silence, brianna. >> omar, if you can standby. i want to play some of the sound that we heard from the police chief. if you are joining us, what we heard was from minneapolis city officials, we heard from the police chief because here you see this especially this night we heard omar reported on. there were fires and injuries, this is a community in a lot of pain after the death of george floyd. let's listen to some of what the
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police chief said. >> i am sorry for the pain and devastation and the trauma that mr. floyd's death left on his family and loved ones and our community here in minneapolis and across the country and the world. i noi that our community know o trauma trying to find a place to heal. i want to make sure and ensure that we'll continue to do that that those who wants to express their first amendment rights and go through this healing process, they have it from me. that's a guaranteed from your chief. >> joining me now, the president of the urban league twins city. steven, i want to ask you, i am curious of your general reaction of what you he said. on one hand there is an apology, he's saying the police
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department injured and hurt the community and on the other hand, he's urging calm. i don't think anyone wants to see what we have been seeing happening in minneapolis. i think that we have now observed situations like this one for years now and city after city it gets to this point because of a lot of things proceeded and we are not just even talking about the george of floyd. it is about a systematic issue that is there and at this point once things boil over, it is very hard to calm the situation. what did you think of highwow c officials are responding to this? >> the chief is responding responsibly and predictively. he's trying to create a line between preserving and protecting the community and at the same time protecting the infrastructure that the community relies on along with everyone else. i am outraged by what we witnessed in the video in the
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murder of a human being, taking a life without due process. i am angry at the way of the few demonstrators hijacked this moment and taken us out of our grief and our indignation and putting the focus now on their lawless activities. this is an opportunity for us to consider this systematic issue that brought this and allowed it to occur. we a among all the thing that is were destroyed last night was construction of affordable housihous housing unit in a community that needs affordable housing. threatening the community that's
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already trauma minimitized and victimized. it has to stop now. we have the right to focus the attention on the family of george floyd and his friends. he deserves better and his family deserves better. >> his siblings are just really communicating how that family is feeling and the pain they are feeling at this moment. you mention there, state, sanction, and execution. you mentioned that's what it is if there are no charges filed here. what is your expectations verses what you want to see from city officials? >> do you think they'll file charges? >> i live between the tension of history of hope. our history is the fbi come to investigate and returns no charges. they find the police acted within their authority. our his strategitory that the s enforcement including the state
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of attorney and minneapolis police where they investigated their own and returning of no indictment. that's the history. our hope is in this moment after trayvon martin and eric gardner that we'll see something. >> steven belton, thank you for joining us. we have much more on this as we are watching what's happening on the ground. a story that's still developing here. the president's breaking his silence on 100,000 americans losing their lives yesterday from coronavirus but at the same time with the cultural war. (soft music)
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u.s. war since world war ii. the president broke his silence this morning. the country hit the 100,000 deaths milestone yesterday. the president tweeted yesterday to all who have passed. is t the president also tweeted in opposition to the use of masks which reduced the transmission of coronavirus significantly and in doing so he defied his own administration's guidance. the governor of new york taking a different route, allowing businesses to deny entry to anyone not wearing a mask. cnn's brynn gingras is joining me on this. >> governor cuomo is taking a firm stand on this. this executive order allows
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business owners to deny entry to a customer from coming into their business if they are not wearing a mask. it is protecting the health of that business owner and that person's business but also from any retribution that could happen if that person was denying customer's entry because of not wearing a mask. i want you to hear more from what the governor said about this exec tiutive order. >> we are talking about reopening stores and places of business. we are giving the store owners the right to say if you are not wearing a mask, you can't come in. that store owner has the right to protect himself. that store owner has the right to protect the other patrons in that store. you don't want to wear a mask, fine, you don't have a right to get into that store if that store owner does not want you to. >> this is cuomo doubling down on something he's been firm
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about many times before in his news conference and even his twitter handle, healthcare workers wear masks for five plus h hours, you can wear one for 45 minutes. many parts of the states are in that phase one of reopening and new york city is just weeks away which of course having the largest population of people gacongrefgating congregati congregating in the city so the issue is big here. >> brynn gingras, thank you so much. there are 100,000 families grieving. most of them have not been able to hold a funeral or hold the hands of their loved ones. the virus touched millions of
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americans mourning the deaths of friends and colleagues, and family members. a president consumed with twitter, tweeting conspiracy theories and shaming people who care enough around them who is wearing a mask. after a day of silence, president trump tweeted, "i want to extend my love to all the families and friends of those who have passed." we saw it with barack obama after the shooting of sandy hook elementary school and bill clinton after the bombing of oklahoma city and even in the midst of this pandemic. former president bush released a video reminding the country, empathy and simple kindness is a powerful tool of national recovery. our cnn's presidential histor n
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historian. why is the president avoid peekipee speaking about these americans. i think the emotional terms would describe how people are feeling. i think that's something people need but it is something that would serve him, would it? >> i can't explain the psychological of this man. i can contrast his behavior of every other modern american. the country is hurting because of 100,000 lives loss. we are hurting because many of the people who are sick and dealing with the consequences of having had the virus. we are dealing with the fact that many americans are fearful of contracting the virus.
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we are dealing with the feedback that many people are suffering deeply, economic pain as well. all of that is a signal. in the past, presidents have tried to take the burden of pain and fear and caring it on their shoulders, using words, not only i caribou i understand. roosevelt at world war ii and ronald reagan and bill clinton after oklahoma city. these are moments when we demand and expect our presidents to lead. donald trump with all that history behind him has chosen to advocate those responsibilities and focus on his reelection it seems. instead of dealing with the facts that that has hewlett packarded on hpa this has happen
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his watch, he's pretepnding it s not his fault. we do not have the resource s t do so. why is he acting this way? if i were a psychologist, i may have an answer. my fensense is having watched h now, he not only have empathy, he does not really care. >> it does make you wonder and it is hard to know you can't get inside his head but he has not demonstrated empathy on so many occasions where he has had the opportunity where something that would serve the country and quite honestly would serve him politically which is something that he seems to be tuned into, looking at the political advantage and yet he seems to not be capable of digging in the that place where you show empathy and one of the other things that we noticed that the political opportunity that he's seeing in this moment is in
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stoking cultural ward. that's becoming very clear from politicizing masks to talk about social media and politicizing churches and the reopening of churches. what do you think of this, tim? >> that's on us i am afraid. the fact that a political figure can believe that he may win a presidential election by dividing us. the sense that he has no political gain to be made, from finding sub common ground and reaching across the isle if you will to others who may not have voted for him before that he has decided he does not need that, he can win and hold onto the presidency just by being sectarian? that says a lot during this
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. democrats are outraged after learning a colleague diagnosed with coronavirus days before they learned about it. a representative took to social media after he was informed. >> you have no [ bleep ] right. you are a scoundrel, you have no
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business in government and no business in the private sector. i believe you should be prosecuted and i believe you should be in jail. how dare you? i will continue to report back. i am a democratic member of the pennsylvania house that just found out my republican leadership in a cover up to make sure that we didn't know covid-19 reached the house of representatives was lying to their members and covering it up. the only way we found out because of a reporter asked one of our members and our members got it out of their leadership. you belong in jail. thank you for everybody asking us how we are doing and what's going on? the answer is we don't know. a whole bunch of my colleagues are on the phone right now with their loved ones, i am sorry for what i have done to you. it was a republican leadership that did it. every single day slamming us for
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saying it was risky for us to be together. every single day walking around this house without a mask, where are you right now in you are in quarantine because you may be spreading the deadly disease to all of us and our family. this is shameful and disgusting. which is what happens when it is republicans gerrymandering state and what happens when republicans taking over control. now that partisanship grown deadly, deadly. >> republican lawmaker andrew lewis says his last day in the capital was aprmay 14th. the press secretary of the pennsylvania house majority leader sent out this response. a person's medical history is
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that your republican colleague tested positive and break down the concerns here because what we know is that he found out on the 20th, backtracking, may 20th and tested on the 18th and he had been on the house floor on the 14th where democrats and republicans were obviously present. >> you got that timeline perfectly right. thank you for having me brianna. that's where we began to learn about this ongoing cover up which is still ongoing. i am still here in the building. how many people have been tested positive or tested or under quarantine. i understand there was a question raised of a tip of violation. we did not ask the name of any person who tested positive but we do need to know what committee they served and what day were they entering the building. again, we learned it by out of
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republican leadership. we learned this member got results of his test on the 20th and he tested on the 18th. for the cdc's guidelines, the incubation for covid-19 is 2 to 14 days. this member was infected and infectious from the 4th on. we as a legislature were in session on the 5th. this member interacted in the committee that i serve on. there is no essential distancing on the floor and the vast majority of them are not wearing masks and not taking it seriously. this idea of simply quarantining maybe the last two or three of his own colleagues he interacted with after finding out he's positive is the same as contact trace that's required by the
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public's health. >> one of the frustrations is the fact that republicans wanted and sort of against the advise of health experts. they wanted to convene in person. >> that's right. the pennsylvania legislatures have met more than any legislatures the in the country during the crisis. there are more than democrats in the state than republicans but using gerrymandering, republicans are still in control of the house. and so they used these months to grand stand and hurt our governor and hurt our secretary of health for doing impeccable work and saving thousand of lives. everyday they come in and told us they would be safe to interact and restrictions were over be overbearing. now what we were learning is that was a lie and they were not
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following those guidelines themselves. >> they're saying it is about hippa law and to your point of not identifying the person, leadership also saying it could lead to him being identified. you do not believe the statement put out. why do you think then, what is your opinion of why republicans kept this quiet? >> i think it is twofold, we are in the middle of negotiating a budget right now. we gotten indication as republicans used these last months to grand stand that they'll dramatically impact our state's budget. for them to be testing positive at the same time that they're telling everyone else that our governor and secretary of health are wrong for requiring the lockdown for requiring masks and social distancing, i think it was counter to theed to their narrative. >> it is worth noting for you personally and i think a lot of people saw the video of you very
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upset and once you dug into it a little bit, we realized that you were someone who were compromised. you donated a kidney and this puts you at risk. there are a lot of people and i imagine who are at risk in the pennsylvania legislature. tell us about that factor into you thinking about this? >> sure. every one of us takes the people that we interact with in our lives, we don't know what our lives are like, after we learn of the potential exposure, most of the caucuses getting on call with the secretary of health. the stories that were shared were heartbreaking. people talking about the risk to their children. for me, i donated a kidney back in january, he's doing fantastic and i am doing fantastic.
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it does not change the fact that i am compromised and it was not for republicans to lie and cover up and put all of us at risk and i look at the chairman of the committee that we have been serving on for a number of these members, he has two small children. i have a colleague that has a newborn baby, and you have a colleague that has a 14-month old baby. we go home to these people at night. little did we know because of a lie and cover up and dirtiests of politics that we are put at grave risk. >> brian sims, thank you so much. >> thank you, brianna. the republican leadership did not respond to our invitation to come on air. president trump is set to announce an executive order
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especially in times like these, strong public schools make a better california for all of us. president trump is looking to curtail the power of large social media plat foforms after twitter labeled his tweets on mail-in voting as potentially misleading. facebook entering the conversation. ceo mark zuckerberg criticizing
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twitter this morning. >> i don't think facebook or internet platforms in general should be arbiters of truth. i think that's kind of a dangerous line to get down to, in terms of deciding what is true and what isn't. and i think political speech is one of the most sensitive parts in a democracy, and people should be able to see what politicians say. >> executive order against social media companies is being prepared by the trump administration. the president is expected to sign that today. cnn legal analyst and former media law professor paul callan with us. cnn reviewed the draft of this executive order, this targets a law known as the communications decency act, section 230. tell us what this law is and tell us if the president has a case. >> well, this is probably the most famous law that governs the internet and it was passed, the regulation was passed in 1996 by
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congress, and what it does is it protects internet service providers from being sued for things that get posted on their forums. you have to remember back in 1996, we lived in a different world. google didn't exist, facebook didn't exist. there was a company called aol that's still around which had forums and there were, you know, free ranging political discussions on those forums. but lawsuits were being filed against people who said they were being treated improperly, so to keep a free internet and to keep this ability to have these free-wheeling political discussions, congress passed this law and said, hey, if it's an internet service provider, which, by the way, twitter is, it fits the definition of the law, they can't be sued and they can't be censored as a result of things they post, so that's in general what has arisen from that section of law. >> and then he's blasting, mark
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zuckerberg is, blasting twitter's stance on fact checking. you heard him say that social media plat foforms are are nono place of saying what is or isn't true in terms of speech. >> he makes an interesting point. i think, frankly, the president is causing a lot of people to panic with this executive order of his, which another lawyer friend of mine described it as having the force of a tweet on fancy paper, because his executive order, at least the parts we've seen at cnn would be a violation of the free speech provisions of the u.s. constitution. so that's going to go no place but i think zuckerberg is afraid of something legitimate. if all of these companies start fact checking statements that they don't like, don't agree with, you really will have a
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kind of one sidedness and sensorship on the internet and i think zuckerberg is acutely aware of this because remember, facebook tried to get into this business of posting that certain things were false that were being posted on facebook, and they got into a lot of trouble, a lot of disputes about whether something was accurate or not. they're really not equipped to be fact checkers in the way, say, that journalists are, and i think that's what zuckerberg fears and he fears, i think, that this idea of trump's executive order to shut down the internet, i mean, what trump is trying to do is scrub the internet and make it something like the one in china where you can't criticize the government because that's considered to be an inaccurate fact whereas in america, we're used to free wheeling expression, and i think it would be a big, big mistake for an executive order like the one the president is proposing to be upheld.
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>> all right, paul cruickshanl thank you. continuing to emphasize social distancing and for wearing masks but some warn 6 feet may not be enough to stop the spread of the virus. experts writing in the medical journal of science say that the problem has to do with how far respiratory droplets can travel. dr. dave montgomery, preventative cardiologist at the clinic joining me to talk about this. i mean, this is -- there's all kinds of things, doctor, that are -- have been signs that have been made. right? everyone has hung their hat on 6 feet here, so what is a safe distance and this may be changing, what do people need to know to make sure they're safe? >> yeah, brbrianna, you hit rig on the point. what we know for certain is we don't know much for certain.
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think about this. just a month ago, we thought 6 feet was fine, we thought that a month ago, not wearing masks are fine and we're changing all that. here's what this study really shows us. the 6 feet recommendation were based on old science, old technology and the technology that the investigators used in the top journal of science to investigate how aerosolized particles, when you talk or breathe, which everybody's doing, not just cough or sneeze, can not only go 6 feet but further and the second part, not just go straight down by gravity, but depending on, let's say, air-conditioning in the room, can literally live in the air, swirling around in that air for hours, and it's terrifying to many people. >> it is terrifying to just hear you say that and doctors trying to understand why african-americans are disproportionately hospitalized, more likely to die. researchers conducted autopsies on ten black patients. they found their lungs were
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riddled with blood clots. can you shed any light on this? >> yeah, we're getting more and more information about this disproportionate death rate with covid-19 and what seems to be playing out is that this is not about a race or the part of the gene that makes one darker complexion or textured hair but more about the underlying conditions that one might have. let me give you one of the ones they point out. obesity. we know there's a disproportionate amount of african-americans that have obesity than other populations and when i was studying obesity, it leads to inflammation and to clotting, all before we learned anything about covid-19. now you learn that into the setting of a very aggressive coronavirus and an aggressive response some people are having in their immune system to this response that leads to more inflammation and more clotting and you can see how it compounds the effect.