tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN May 28, 2020 4:00pm-5:00pm PDT
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bakara, as long as we have breath, we're going to be here. we're going to be here, and thank you for giving us this platform. >> thank you for everything you're doing. thanks to all of our analysts, all of our reporters, and dan will be hosting a special sunday night 8:00 p.m. eastern, "i can't can't breathes," black men living and dying in america. don, thanks for everything you're doing. we will see you later. to the viewers, thanks very much for watching. erin burnett starts right now. we have two major developing stories. the death toll for coronavirus tops 100,000. and the president suggests that masks represent slavery and social death. and the outrage building over the death of george floyd. in police custody. prosecutors announce they are not ready to press charges yet. and she lost her husband to
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coronavirus. said good-bye to him. it's been two months since joe died. tonight, laura is back with me. let's go out front. good evening. i'm erin burnett. tonight, silence, slavety, social death. the president sharing that message when it comes to wearing masks. he says there are so many viewpoints, retweeting a lifrk from a columnist that says masks is about social control. the president is simply refusing to lead on this, leaving it to others. >> i wear it for the reason that i believe it is effective. i want to protect myself and protect others and also because i want it to be a symbol for people to see that is the kind of thing should you be doing. >> fauci makes it clear that masks are effective when you're with other people.
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and frankly, they work. those are the facts. and here is a model that is sited by the white house. >> we have clear ever e dense that wearing masks works. it's probably a 50% protection against transmission. >> a 50% effective against transmission. he went on to say, people should think of it like a vaccine. like a vaccine. the thing that is so crucial. masks are like a vaccine? doesn't it say it all? and from hong kong. the city of 7.5 million residents only reported four deaths. four deaths. a major reason why? they are reason to keep bafrs and restaurants open. and then take a look at this experiment done by the
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researchers. they use las lasers to see how spit droplets travel. it's a shame we have to sit and explain that masks make a difference. it's part of the reason that dr. fauci wears one and mitch mcconditional wearing one. and dr. fauci says he wants to set an example. as do leaders around the world. they all want to wear a mask. you can have style with it, look at it. i can fill up the screen after screen. the french president, the chinese president. the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. and even his alley, the presidet of brazil, he is seen wearing a mask in public.
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there are more than 1001,000 americans dead. perhaps the trump of 2020 should take the advice of the trump from 1999. >> the president has to be a great leader and you have to lead by example. >> he is failing at the that. katelin, we just showed that screen of world leaders, person after person after person wearing masks, to set an example. the president is on an island on this issue. >> and erin, you remember when the cdc first reversed course saying should you cover your face, and the president was asked, will he wear one? p and he said he couldn't feel right doing it white meeting with world leaders and you just showed, the world leaders taking advice and wearing a mask. they are not 100% effective.
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but they do help and they are valuable safeguards. but the president has not only refused to wear one. you are seeing from his twitter feed, he is continuing to drive a political wedge. making it a culture war of whether or not someone is wearing one or not. he is tweeting today, many different viewpoints, the statement that was mocking joe biden for wearing one. saying it's not a form of public safety and health. it was in a form of social control. we have seen the president frame other things like that. he has continued to prefuse to wear one. and you will see the republican governor, not turning it in an issue. you saw the governor of north dakota get tearful. you don't know if someone is wearing one, not because they are wearing it or they have a
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5-year-old who has gone through cancer. it doesn't seem like something the president has taken into consideration. and this is not a shared view inside the white house. there are many people who advised the president to wear one. and it is a symbol to the supporters and people of the united states to wear one. people do not think he is going to change his mind about wearing one public think. >> okay, thank you very much. i want to go now to dr. minor, and the president today with the retweets, one, two many viewpoints, saying this is about social control as opposed to medical reality. another one equating masks to silence, slavery and social
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death. obviously this is shocking and completely false when it comes to so many viewpoints. >> yeah, the piece that the president retweeted could have been written by a russian bot. it's essentially disinformation. and universal masks would have reduced the death rate in in country. the president has a conflict of on interest. and the conflict of interest is in this. he is running for president in the pandemic and one of the things he needs to do, to counter his election chances, he
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needs to make sure it's normal. and not only does he not promote universal mask wearing, and he promotes negative comments about it. i have lost family members to covid. my colleagues at work have lost family members and pretty soon, everyone in the country will know someone who has lost someone. and to think that the president of the united states would not promote the simple public health measure of wearing masks is insane. >> it's also the point that he, by doing it, can promote it by being normal. and now, of course, he dug in. he could have used it to his advantage of setting what normal is. he has obviously failed to do that. we put up on the screen, i felt it was so powerful to do that. just all the world leaders wearing masks.
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you know, it is -- it is amazing that this president seeis it as something negative. when clearly, others are wearing masks. >> dug in. that is a term you just used, erin, and that is spot on. that is this president. and the more people tell him to wear a mask, as kaitlan was reporting, the were people want him to, the more he says no, i'm not going to do it and the day that he changes is the day that something really, really significant has happened in either just his gut, which is pretty good when it comes to the politics he is trying to focus on, or in the polling that he is looking at internally. because dr. minor is not only a wonderf wonderful physician but he
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understands politics because he nailed it when he said the president doesn't want to give the appearance of a country moving on. that is a part of it. but it's more than that. this is him trying to relate to what he thinks is prthe traditional trump voter. voters in red stateses where they haven't seen the numbers. and they understand why the government nationwide is telling them they can't go to work. because they don't have days like those -- they don't have -- a broad generalization, but that is feeding into it, and this is feeding into why the president is doing, or not doing what he is doing with masks. >> and you know, dr. minor. you talk about this is going to touch people bersally. we are aware there are people places where it hasn't touched people personally. we all know people who have
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died. one place though that anyone in the country can look to for proof how it works is hong kong. four deaths so far. a study in the leading british medical journal found that 99% of people in hong kong wear masks. and the president says this is not abnormal. it could be normal. in the united states, only a third of people say they always wear masks, according to a gallup poll. and the ozarks image over the weekend, no masks. it's almost like you have gotten to a point, if you don't have an outbreak, people think, well, that that's it. that is proof you don't need to wear them. >> right, and it might take an outbreak in parts of the country to convince people they need to
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wear a mask. but it might be the leaders emulating the things that will save lives. if you look at physicians and nursing, people who work in hospitals, we get it. how the masks prevent the spread of the virus, person to person. in is how we get back to normal, wearing masks. if you want start opening businesses and restoring consumer confidence, promote mask wearing. it will dramatically reduce the spread of virus in the country and the economy will source. you can get people to wear masks. you can brand them. >> right, you can put your maga right across the front if you want. the president has made it a
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partisan issue. and there is a photo like this. my body, my choice, no mask, 2020. and that irony with that comment. this seems to be exactly what the president wants. >> it is. it is again feeding in that sentiment. and it's a very real sentiment across the country that feel like the government has too much of a heavy hand. that is the government -- there are institutional problems. that is why donald trump is president of the united states. issue is, he is now the president and the president requires liedership for all americans. that is true just on politics and much more importantly, the safety and security of americans and that has to do with health. i was going to say, let's say
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the statistics are not where doctor minor and you, erin, say they could save two lives. okay, two lives, wear a mask. what's the harm? there is no down side to wearing a mask. except for a political point that the president is grasping on to that frankly is just giving his opponents fire to -- it fuels their fire that he is -- >> and remember, he was in such fear that he could have contracted it from someone, he was taking hydroxychloroquine, and people tested around him, and he was not wearing a mask around them. thank you all, vf, and next, a new model by the cdc expects hospitalizations to go up in less tlan two weeks. cases are spiking in parts of
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the country and breaking news in minneapolis. the national guard has been activated. crowds are building again following the death of george floyd, and 1 in 4 americans are out of work since the coronavirus outbreak began. >> what has the virus done to your industry? >> nobody's working right now. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from anyone else.
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the cdc projects now hospitalizations will rise. 16 states have seen an upward trend in the united states. many in the south. >> reporter: this morning in montgomery, alabama, there were just two icu beds unoccupied. covid-19 cases have quadrupled in this county since reopening began. >> we can not fast forward. we are trying to do it now in the way e we are approaching the process. we have seen the spikes in montgomery and also in alabama. california today saw the biggest up tick in cases, 2,617 in every southern state, new cases are climbing. nationally ticking down lowly. >> if we relax too much and
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don't take the social distancing measures and take the precautions, we may see it start to go up again. not just in the fall as there might be a fall wave but in the next few weeks as well. >> the cdc has posted a model predictingen up tick in hospital e zigss around june 10th and guidelines for ememployers, let lots of fresh air in, no coffee pots no hand shakes, no first bumps and bad news today for big events, the boston marathon already moved to mid september, now canceled. the wisconsin state fair that draws over a million people, also just canceled. new york city is still tries to make its mass transit as safe as possible. the city is not ready to reopen but it's close. >> i think it's time for new yorkers to see the hard work
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rewarded. >> reporter: new yorkers can be back at work maybe by mid june. since march, nearly 40 million americanses ha americans have lost their job. that is one in four workers. >> we are going to take this opportunity to restructure. we're going to get lean. you know what that means? we are going to lay off workers. >> reporter: so the boston marathon, which was scheduled for september, today canceled. today, we heard from texas that from this sunday, they going to allah pro sports outdoor with fans in the stands. 25% capacity but fans in the stands and the leagues have to figure out how to keep them safe. erin? >> thank you very much. and these are some of the balances i guess we are going to start to see ho return to life in some capacity.
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out front now, biology professor from the university of dartmouth. it's great to you have back. nick just mentioned sporting events in texas with 25% capacity. and it comes after disney world says it will start reopening on july 11th, which has gotten a lot of attention. what should people know before going to, say, disney? >> i'm glad they are looking at reducing capacity quite a lot. if you are headed to disney, you need to realize that every interaction you have with a person is a chance for transmission. waiting in lines, being close to each other on rides. thinking about what it's going to be like on a roller coaster with people screaming.
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i think it really needs to be thought through, how they make it fun and safe for people visiting the park. >> it gets to a point where it isn't fun, and your point about a roller coaster, you would not do that, because when you are yelling, there is more projecting. >> yeah, we know that talking puts out a little bit. singing, a little more of the virus. and screaming on a roller coaster will really project what comes out of your mouth over everybody that is behind you. >> so, you know, a lot of people in the summer, we have been hearing the weather might make some of it better, being outside. but you have people using air conditioning, a lot more people using air conditioning, and this is a question, we talk ababout a study in china where they showed the path of the air conditioner and you can project who got the virus. they were able to put xs on everyone who got it.
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how significant can air conditioning be? >> well, air conditioning, when we start conditioning our environment, we start changes things like temperature. but also humidity. as we drop the temperature down, the virus increases in both stability and transmit ability. and as we drop the moisture down, it makes the virus more stable and more transmissible. if we use the human coronavirus that follows that path, air conditioning could make things a little more favorable for the virus to find a new home. >> and you also point out that six feet, which we have all been hearing, when you're outside, seems to make sense. but what about inside? >> yeah, six feet when you're outside is what we want to do for safety.
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when we're inside for short, brief encounters, six feet is okay as well. if you're in that environment for half hour, six hours for a work day, then six feet is really not enough if you are just recycling the air in the room because there is a potential that the virus will be in that air and accumulating the longer that is an infected pers stays in that room. >> thanks. i appreciate your time. next, tensions tonight escalating in minneapolis. now the national guard has been activated. they are bracing for more protests after the death of george floyd. we he will go through live. . and she lost her husband to coronavirus. tonight, she is back with us. >> i think he is the most amazing husband. when you shop for your home at wayfair
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despite the video, i do want to warn you is graphic. he said he kousn't breathe while a police officer was kneeling on his neck for minutes and minutes and minutes. and the protesters, you can see from the images. miguel marquez is there. >> reporter: a night of anger turns to range. protesters around in the minneapolis third precinct. businesses in the area looted and burned. the arrests that left 46-year-old george floyd dead. >> our nation has witnessed an incredibly disturbing loss of life. my heart goes out to george floyd. my heart goes out to his family.
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>> reporter: the video runnings more than seven minutes. floyd pinned to ground. a knee to his neck. unable to move or breathe. >> i can't breathe. >> reporter: you can't see every vantage point but it doesn't come close to that police describe, that floyd was resisting. and surveillance video from a restaurant also smoes he doesn't resisting arrest. >> i know there is blood coming out of his nose. and he said his belly hurt. and that is when i started pleading with the officers. >> reporter: courtney ross was floyd's girlfriend. >> this is nothing but an angel, and we demonized him, and killed him. i want to get on the phone and call my baby and hear his voice.
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he cannot die in vain. he can't. >> reporter: the four police officer, now all fired. many calling to face charges. the officer with a knee to his neck, had 18 complaints logged against him. and two of them, another of the officers was sued for excessive force in the past. that suit settled by the city. >> do you they was murder? >> i do. >> do you? >> i'm not a prosecutor. but let bme be clear. the arresting officer killed someone. >> reporter: with businesses looted and burned overnight, floyd's family pleading for justice and welcome. >> i want everyone to be peaceful right now. but people are torn and hurt because they are tired of seeing black men die. >> miguel marquez, just joins me now on the phone from
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minneapolis. and miguel, you're on the phone because on of things that are happening. what is happen writing you are? >> we're actually in st. paul. there are on going reporting here on looting, tear gas used against protestors. we're in a shopping area where a local soccer team plays. there were several buses, dozens or police officers in riot gear. this is st. paul, meanwhile, firps off in the distance. looting a tj maxx, several of the stoefrs where we are, and it looked like minneapolis where it did happen last night, is also burning. people are getting very -- the recall county attorney -- across the state tonight.
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>> all right, miguel, thank you very much. i want to go out front now to the former democratic mayor of baltimore, stephanie rawlings brigs. she was mayor in 2015 after freddy gray, a 25-year-old african-american man died due to spinal cord injuries. you led the nation through this. when we look at the george floyd video, prosecutors have called it horrific and terrible, saying the death is a disturbing loss of life. but they are not charging anyone yet. and they said, there is other evidence that does not support a criminal charge. you were not just the mayor. you were also an attorney. do you know what it could be? sbh someone who to does not support a criminal challenge?
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>> my heart goes out to the floyd family and the community in minneapolis. it was a horrific act that the world witnessed. and we are all suffering now because of it. as for what other evidence, i don't know. i don't think anyone has heard anything other than what we saw. which was a man being arrested, looking compliant, yet was placed on the ground. there were several people out there. i haven't heard anything, i don't fl don't know if you have, from the witnesses that suggests there is anything else going on to would require an unarmed man who is not moving at all to be restrained, and murdered, retrained with a knee in his neck. i didn't see anything. >> do you think at this point there is enough evidence to press charges right now? are you shocked they have chosen not to do so again today? >> i'm not shocked they haven't
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chosen to do so. because as we snsaw we saw in baltimore, it's important to get it right. and not just fast. when you deal with charges against a police officer, we have seen historically the bar so high on findings of guilt, you want to make sure that you get it right. and my hope is that the community has enough faith in the prosecutors office to give them the time they need to do a nore thorough investigation. because whatever charges are filed, you want the community to have a sense that the charges are not being filed in vain. >> they did of course -- today when they were referencing it, they said they wanted to not rush to justice. they wanted to do it right. they mentioned what you went through in flobaltimore.
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i want to replay again, what we have seen. and again, i want to warn the viewers, the first video is graphic. i know you of course have seen it. but a police officer is kneeling on floyd's neck as he pleads for him to stop. he says he can't breathe. and police claimed it happened after he resisted arrest and we have surveillance video from a nearby restaurants. he is put in custody. he is placed against a wall. then he sat down. and he is qured and walked back across the street. we sue the door of the police car opening up. so if you see anything in this, all the difference videos show or suggest that floyd did what they said, which is to resist arrest? >> i haven't seen it. and i'm also -- number one, i'm glad there is a video, number
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two, i am -- i am very glad that because the officer acted in very specific contra zix contradiction to police policy, the officers were fired. they are not going to be entitled to their pension, and laus of the law enforcement, bill of rights in so many places across the country, prevent moir mayors and police chief doing what happened in mims. that is not for me in baltimore because of the bill of rights and reform, systemic reform in the police department and taking a hard look at what can happen, what can a mayor do what can a police chief to do to make sure the officers are taken offer the
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street. >> i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thanks. >> and now next, 40 million americans are now out of work because of the pandemic. that is one in four. >> i never imagined we would live through something like this. >> plus, she lost her husband to coronavirus and her bravery, honestly touched so many when we spoke. she is back with was tonight on the message on pain and perseverance. it's time for the memorial day sale on the sleep number 360 smart bed. can it help keep me asleep? absolutely, it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both comfortable. it's the final days to save $1,000 on the sleep number 360 special edition smart bed, now only $1,799. ends sunday.
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tonight, 40 million americans are now out of work since the pandemic began. it comes as new numbers released today show 2.1 million people filing jobless claims. one of the states hit hard is california. the governor is warning of an economic fall out, the likes of which a country has never seen before. a tourist free hollywood.
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a traffic free street. and the symbols that covid-19 has conflicted on the large interest most diverse economy. 1 in 4 californians can be jobless this year, 1 in 4 in a state of 40. people. >> what has the vire virus done to your industry? >> nobody's working right now. >> reporter: 720,000 people work in film and entertainment in california. >> the majority of the industry are blue collar workers who are showing up at 6:00 until the morning and leaving at 8:00 at night and people who are living paycheck to paycheck, job to job. so it's really trough. >> reporter: the industry turning to food banks to now feed their own. in napa's vineyards, business has cratered.
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>> i never imagined we would live you this this. >> reporter: they are part of california's $57 billion wine industry, now, corked. >> a lot of our sales are to hotels, restaurants and country clubs. they are all shut down. we are about 50% under what we were last year. >> there's no doubt that the pandemic and the closure has impacted tourism. >> reporter: the san diego zoo has gone from 5.5 million tickets sold at the zoo to now zero. >> question have 20,000 people in the zoo in one day. you hear every language on the planet. >> reporter: california depends on air travel for visitors, domestic international. through be are signs of recovery. small businesses employ just
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other half. >> we are ready. >> reporter: california governor gavin newsom says the recovery will slow, and they see a massive drop off. >> by no stretch of the imagination is the virus behind us. we're moving forward. we're not looking back, but we are walking into the unknown. >> reporter: these are the the types of bill bards you see all over los angeles with so many unployed here, and it bears remindsing, because california is the largest economy in the country, as the state goes, so does the u.s. erin? >> thank you very much. next, a mother of three, she lost her husband, 42 years old, to coronavirus. her story moved so many of us. tonight, she returns to
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as the nation mourns, more than 100,000 lives lost to this virus, one powerful response from you, the people watching, joe passed away, he was 42 years old. he left behind a wife and three children. he was absolutely beloved by students, school in new york on long island. he spent 20 years working as an assistant principal and a girls basketball coach at a catholic high school. he had no known preexisting conditions. it started out as just a virus, a little sick, his health deteriorated quickly. he end bed up on a ventilator and died. and because of the virus, his wife maura was not allowed to be with him physically as he passed away. she did say she felt she was with him and here's how she described that moment. >> i thanked him.
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i thanked him for being the most amazing husband and for making me feel cherished and loved every single day. every single day my husband wrote me beautiful love letters in my "lurch" box. not just have a great day, but just beautiful letters about what i meant to him. i thanked him, and then i prayed, and then the doctor took the phone and he said, i'm sorry, but there's no more pulse. and then i played our wedding song for him. and then, um, and then that was it. >> joe passed away two months ago today, and maura joins me tonight. maura, it's impossible for me, for anyone to understand how you're feeling every day with your loss. what can you tell us about these two months and your life now? >> it's hard to believe that
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it's two months already. i explain how i get through the day by saying that i pretend. i pretend that this awful thing hasn't happened to us and our family and our friends and community. i pretend that he's not going to be missing from every event going forward. that's the only way to get through the minutiae of the day and being able to care for my children and being able to smile at my students through the screen. >> and i know some of the smallest, some of the seemingly smallest things have just been the things that have brought this to you more than anything else, just everyday things. >> as far as reminders, everyday things? >> yes.
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>> yes, i see him everywhere. i see him everywhere when i'm sitting on the couch having my morning coffee and i look across. that's where he's staring back at me. and i'm in the kitchen and i'm at the sink and he's over at the stove or vice versa. he's everywhere. he's in my children's faces. he's in every song that i hear. he's in all my thoughts, spending time in the backyard and having a fire pit and watching the logs burn and thinking about lava, looking like lava, and thinking about how we were supposed to go to hawaii in 2023 as a family trip and wondering, do i still do that? do i celebrate him and go? or not? it's a constant -- it's a constant in my mind, constant how do i get through the rest of my days without him. >> and i know part of how you
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are doing that and will do that is your children, these beautiful children that you have. you say you see his face in them. your three children, two in high school, your little one just 6 years old. how are they doing, maura? >> they're doing amazingly well. they're such well rounded joys. my older two have been through a lot in their life, so having the experience they did when they were small has just made them these guiding lights, spirits of beauty. they have an amazing presence, kind souls, loving. and my little one, she just wants to be them, she wants to follow everything and do everything they do. they just -- they talk about joe. we talk about him. our family is based on
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communication. we just always talked about everything, how we feel and what we think of things and views of the world and how they have their own opinion of things. joe and i didn't always agree on everything about the world and they always knew that listening to each other and supporting each other is the foundation of family and great relationships. so that continues. that definitely continues with every day. >> they learn that from their parents. you know, people were so moved by you, maura. you know, you just were an unforgetably great presence. larger than life for so many. you know, one of our viewers who is especially moved by your story, i no know he wrote a son and reached out to you after you saw you. you inspired this and i wanted to play a bit of it.
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♪ facetimed his wife to say good-bye ♪ ♪ she said thank you for being the best ♪ ♪ thank you for all that we have ♪ ♪ but i can love you from anywhere ♪ ♪ >> it's a beautiful thing. he had a message for you, maura, that he shared with us today. and he -- i want to read it to you. he said, this song is a love letter from a first responder. what touched me so deeply was your emotional interview with maura, the face time with joe and story of love. thank you for sharing your story, for what you have done and helped me believe the power
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of love is infinite and healing in writing this song. that was incredible what you have given so many. >> when you suffer such a great loss, you expect to be and are so thankful, which i am so thankful and grateful to my family and friends and community for their amazing support, every day, continuous messages of support. but what is so striking is the messages from complete strangers. whether they reached out on facebook or through another friend or these connections and just getting their love and support to us has been amazing. but to -- and i receive letters in the mail. it's just not something i would necessarily think to do, is to pick up a pen and write a complete stranger a letter and send it. but people did that. and just the generosity and
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care. but then to have somebody create and be inspired to write a song and make his own experience in that song -- austin is a doctor. he also is -- he went to school with my husband. didn't even know it. so that connection that we didn't even know existed was brought out because of joe's message. and joe's story and joe's life. >> well -- >> forever grateful. >> his light burns in you. and i know as i said, maura, the courage and bravery that it takes to share, somehow letting us all be a small part of your loss has, i think, just been a very big and beautiful thing. and i am grateful and we are grateful.
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and i thank you. >> i thank you as well. it definitely has been a healing experience to be supported by so many, including yourself. so i thank you sofrp. so much. >> i thank you. you are in our thoughts always. and i thank all of you for being with us. our global town hall starts now. ♪ ♪ >> good evening. welcome. i'm anderson cooper in new york. >> anderson. i'm dr. sanjay gupta and this is our 13th consecutive cnn global town hall, coronavirus facts and fears. this program tonight is being seen around the world on cnn international, cnn espanol and streamed on cnn.com. >> in the four months since this virus started to kill in this country, more than 100,000 people have died here. when we did our first town hall, 12 people had died. not 12,000 or even 1200. 12. a dozen weeks later, the death toll has surpassed 100,000. it's hard to even imagine that
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