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social media to go to where police are not. they'll target and gather quickly and they'll do what they do in areas that are not as well protected. they got to really have a good plan and needs to include a high level of mobility for some of those platoons they got out there. >> we'll watch how it plays out. >> brianna keilar takes our coverage right now. this is cnn's breaking news. john, thank you very much. i want to get everyone up to speed on the two crisis unfolding here in america, after three nights of violent lashes with police in minneapolis. walls of officers trying to contain crowds. al police precinct engulfed in flames, demonstrators storming buildings and businesses and
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igniting several fire. the ashes symbolized the generations of pain that have gone unheard. >> we can't have the looting and the recklessness that went on. we can't have it because we can't function as a society and i refuse to have it take away the attention of this stain that we need to be working on. orthodont thank god a young person that had a camera videoing taping it. >> that video, the catalyst for these protests and i must warn you it is difficult to watch. it is important to remember why this all started. george floyd was unarmed and he was handcuffed and restrained while a minneapolis police officer kneeled on his neck even
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when floyd pleaded he could not breathe. he died as a result. charges are not filed against these officers. attorney general says he has every expectations they'll be arrested. >> everybody keeps on asking the question, when, when? this is a perfectly legitimate question. it is important to know that under minnesota statues, the jurisdiction for criminal prosecution is with the county attorney and offense occurs. i believe the message have been sent that the wheel of justice must turn swiftly. >> more than 500 national troops are headed to minneapolis. 170 businesses have been damaged and looted.
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president trump in a tweet this morning calling the protesters "thugs and seemingly threate g "thugs". first let's go to omar jimenez, he's joining us live. we heard tim walz attempting to calm tensions across the state. are they preparing for more protest tonight or are they hopeful that they can deescalate this? >> reporter: i think it is a little bit both this. they are preparing for what we have seen over the course of the past few days but you talked about the a vpreparations they in place. you heard the governor described the past 24 hours as anarchy.
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these officers are forming a perimeter as others are across this area and basically around where we saw a large portion of the protests and we have seen over the course of the past few days. it was last night where we saw after 10:00 p.m. that the third precinct or the police department here was lit on fire. that was just about a block from where we are right now. this entire area closed down for crews to get in here and clean things up and try to erase it in some ways. another big theme that the governor is passionate about at the press conference, he detailed a path forward for the state of minnesota and here in minneapolis, he says it starts with restoring orders and if we are seeing steps trying to put in place and trying to get swift justice and we are waiting to see if there are any charges filed or with the u.s.
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attorney's office from the fbi and the third one he says comes down to trust. listen to how he describes what that process is going to be like. >> i understand there is no trust in our communities. i am asking you to help us. help us use humane way to get the streets to a place where we can restore the justice so that those that are expressing rage and anger and demanding justice are heard. not those who throw fire bombs into businesses. >> reporter: there were multiple businesses that were on firem. t there were 30 different fires firefighters responded to over the course of wednesday's protests. a the national guards were esco
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escortiescor escorting police so they can put out some of these fires. trying to get a handle on the situation but just because they have a better handle of things tonight does not mean protesters are ending tonight. we know there is a thorough investigation going on. we heard from the county attorney who says he wants to examine all facts. we are not going to get answers until the process is completed. >> you and your team became apart of the story. you were arrested on television. the governor since issued a politic apolo public apology for that. can you walk us through what happened? we d >> reporter: we did not know what was going on. we gotten there in early morning hours and we were talking about buildings that were on fire and
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protests and an archarchy that were seeing. protesters were scattering and we made our way out of there path and they sort of made their line and we kept on reporting. at some point over the course our reporting seems like protests ran past us and next thing we knew they circled us. i kept reporting even though there is a state patrol under my arm. eventually they said i was under arrest. then as we were taking away, officers were cordial with us. i asked them why we were being arrested and he said look, i am just following orders here. we went through the process and we got back out and now we are
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back here on the scene trying to continue to tell the story of what has been an awful week for the city of minneapolis and one protesters are trying to demand justice for george floyd. >> did you get an answer why you were arrested? >> reporter: i did not get an answer. we saw the state patrol put out a tweet but not all of that was accurate. there were many ways to vir fie
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that and right noi whiw while t governor did apologize. we did not get a clear reason why we were arrested. >> omar, thank you for your reporting. standby for us. barack obama just released a statement on floyd's death. >> we have to remember more thanes being treated differen y differently, tragically and painf painfully normal, whether it is while dealing with this. this shoiuld not be normal in 2020 america. if we want or children to live up to the highest ideal, we must
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be better. joining us now michael eric dyson, who dyson. i wonder, michael, as watch this press conference from authorities there at the state level, what did you think of what the governor was saying? >> it is time for responsible politicians like the governor and mayor and the city council and the police chief all to be galvanized. this is a systematic problem and it is structurally reenforced by practices over years and decades. the mayor of minneapolis says 400 years. there were such negative blow back and we are talking about
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got to pull back and look at how we prevent this from happening here. ism i am going to have you all standby c standby. >> we are sadden by the reasons today. we stand in solidarity of the family of joy floyd ageorge flo. know that our hearts are with them during this difficult time. this community stands with them and calling for the charges and conviction of the four officers that were responsible and murdered george floyd. we exec to see those results soon. we have been a community that has been fighting many individuals that have been
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fighting on the frontline of social justice. we are calling for safe and peaceful protesting. we are seeing the symptoms of the problem. it is a problem that we have long ignored. many people who are working tirelessly to change the condition of black and brown people in the community and state. we stand in solidarity with this family. we extend our hearts. at this time i would like to welcome nikiti armstrong. >> good afternoon, it is unfortunate that we have to be here today because another life has been taken by minneapolis police officer department. it is not as if these incidents
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simply happen over night. the social unrest, neglect of the african-american community. i have activists in the streets, i have joined them for the last several years shutting things down and fighting for justice and demanding they treat us with dignity and respect our humanity. that has not been the case. george floyd is the latest victim, in a series of flblack men. not one has been held accountable for killing an african-american person. when you think of the most
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freque frequent victims, november 2015, jamal clark, shot in the back of the head. shot by police officers unarmed, 24 years old, never arrested and still charged and still walking in the streets. he was a father and the brother, he can't live. we go back to tyson nelson. a young african-american man who did not see adulthood shot in the back by minneapolis officers when we went out to protest in front of the precinct police station, the very officer who shot and killed nelson was standing out there on duty.
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that's a mockery of our lives of african-american people. when we are being treated as if our pain does not matter, we try to peacefully protest but no we have no control what is happening in the city. people are fed up, people are angry and they have every right to be. we are asking the media to be responsible and respectful of how you cover this story. some of these young people are in the streets and they have the right to be angry. we hope today will lead to a paradigm shift and the city of minneapolis where they get bebe
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recognize black lives matter. we are here demanding charges immediately. by not holding them accountable, the only officer who had faced charges was muhammad north who shot and killed in the dark. the man is in prison until this day. >> that's right. >> excuse me. if you can be respectful. >> he's taken into custody. >> okay, one officer has been taken into custody. >> that's not enough. four of them participated in
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killing. >> until they are arrested and charged with the murder of george floyd. we are not satisfied with one officer. all of them were complicit in his murder. that's what we are here today. next i want to bring pastor brian herring who's a pastor at zion church. please welcome him. >> i don't know what y'all are clapping for. this is serious y'all. a man's life has been lost at the hands of someone who has worn and protect and serve. i don't condone the violence but
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understand it. you want to focus on that rather than focusing on the balance that kicked it all off. we are never going to be distracted. the camera is the witness so i don't know how many for witnesses do you need. it is time for justice to be served. we are tired. this is not a photo-opt or a game. we wear this everyday. y'all upset about kaepernick taking the knee but you are not upset about the knee in that man's neck. you see we are here with hope. we are here with hope because we
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are not quitting. we'll keep fighting. god says he gives us beauty for ashes. out of the ashes will rise a new minneapolis and saint paul. out of the ashes, we'll get justice and we'll walk together and live together the way we were meant to. my condolences, my condolences and i really appreciate you being here. i appreciate you all being here. god bless you all. >> we are sick and tired of being sick and tired. i stay here today exhausted. black minnesota, we are done dying. white minnesota, you are done
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hiding. this is far too long. black bodies drop like flies and nobody does anything. we want to be clear that we stand with if first african-american chief. we saw saw where you were at when it was a south woman in indianapolis. we saw how eager you were to charge a black somalia muslim man. now we want that same justice. we are reclaiming our time and humanity. enough is enough. we want all officers arrested and charged. eventually convicted.
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those four officers stood and kneeled and killed george floyd. all humanity should be outraged. i want to tell you what you are witnessing in minnesota that has been a long time coming. i can't tell you how many governors i have sat down with and mayors and we warned them that if you keep murdering black people, the city will burn. we have to stop the city from burning numerous times and we are not responsible for burning now. mike freeman is holding up progress. poverty is holding up the progress. this is not simply looting. this is an uprising. an uprising of the oppressed people. media, you need to cover the under cover cops who have been breaking these windows.
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these kids are not equipped to do those kinds of things. stop painting us to be monsters. we see what you are doing. a word to president trump and i want to make sure y'all give this word to him. i think that it is crazy that we are in a middle of a pandemic and you have not sent any masks or resources but you were quick to send your troops to kill us. we have been -- you were crying liberate min liberate minnesota when it came to the economy. anyone believes in humanity, we are asking you to stand up.
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this is not a black people issue, this is a human rights issue. we are staying with you, we want you to know there are multiple ways to get your point across, we are here to help you. you have a village that'll help you. no one else will talk to you and they keep on talking at you. we a at some point is called defense. >> that's right. so again i will say black minnesota is done dying and white men, you are done hiding. it is time for black people humanity to be recognized. >> next up. tamika mallory.
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the coleader of the national women's march. >> i heard some folks saying no justice, no peace. >> no justice. >> no peace. >> if we don't get no justice, there ain't going to be no damn peace. that's the bottom line. black people are in a state of emergency. black folks in america. those who support us needs to understand that deaths of this emergency. it did not start today, it is at a critical point. we are at a point where folks, grandmothers and all the way down to little babies are tired. people realize that we are
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attacked and it feels like every black person in america are being hunted. that's how we feel. that state of emergency is causing all types of things. but, out of the white house, last night we heard the president of the united states said that when the looting starts, the shooting starts, which we know is a reference to another racist time in a history of america where police abuse our people. that same president, he's the same man that in 2018 in one of his speeches, donald trump says he's a nationalist. this is important for people to understand what we are dealing with here. that you know when we say a state of emergency what we mean. from the president of the united stat states, his mouth, he says he's a nationalist.
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if you understand the history of white nationalist in america to have a president say that, we were in a state of emergency at that moment. he went on at another press conference or another event to say to police officers, don't be so nice when you arrest them. y'all got to remember, the history of the man who's in the white house. he says don't be so nice to them. hit him in the head when you put them in the car. these were his words as the president of the united states. this is what an isolated situation. these instances are not isolated. what is happening in america is that white nationalism,edolo idy is running wild. the reason why buildings are burning because this state preserved of that white
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white -- that's the reality of what we are dealing with. this is not just a few cops doing things across -- this is cnn's breaking news. >> all right, we are interrupting this news conference of the activists in minu minneapolis to let you know that a minneapolis police officer, the one that you saw in the video right there with his knee on the neck of george floyd have been taken into custody. i want to go right to the ground there in minneapolis where our omar jimenez has been covering this day in and day out for us. we heard from activists -- i want to bring in laura koch to talk about this. they made that clear that they feel all four of these police officers should be held responsible. what do you think about what it
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means that he has been taken into custody here on friday after what occurred on monday. >> this is one of many steps that needs to take place. we heard the press conference yesterday that they were looking at dotting all their i's and crossing all their t's whether they have anything substantial or a probable cause. it probably happened and we know who caused this. we have a video tape that shows us that. we have more than seven minutes to show what his actions were. it is a flowchart in my waany w. number one is about firing and number two is the arrest. what charges are presented here? that's the true barometer of how the county attorney's office
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truly views the action of this police officer and his three remaining colleagues. it is going to be about whether the person acted intentionally in a premeditated action and whether it is unintentional or intentional killing. whatever charges they come to will be telling. it will alert us to the prosecutors of how they intend to litigate this case. most people have the impression when it comes to first degree murder, they think of the quick sequential of hiring a hit man. and so we know here unlike most of the officers vofred police brutality cases involving unarmed black men and brown women as well in this country is
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about giving the benefit of the doubt to an officer because of their split second decisions they are required to make. well, the length of that video, the nine minutes plus talking about the amount of time he had to contemplate and withdraw and knowing that community members were standing and shouting and echoing the sentiment of mr. george floyd on the ground no longer resisting arrest. now you have a decision of what the county prosecutor will decide to lead with. whatever they decide to do right now to the charges brianna, is not t not the oecend of the calculus. you can elevate the charges or having lesser charge or lower charge including.
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this will be the first indication of the mindset of the prosecution with respect to these officers. one more point, it will tell us about the liability potentially of the three other officers who also have been fired. if somebody is involved in this crime, those who failed to act in a way that shows their duty to protect and serve, they could have form of accomplice liability. this is going to tell us a great deal. right now we appear to be in step two of the call for justice. the charges are important. >> i want to ask you about the intent that you said. if the intent of whether the officer intended to kill george floyd verses whether a reasonable person should have known that was they are in the
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process of doing, how much does it matter? >> there are different degrees of the umbrella of murder. however, you look at the unlawful killing of somebody. one role to consider, the minnesota's code recognizes even unintentional killings, they recognize if somebody has a disregard for a human's life. the natural consequences of their action will be the end of life. all of that is taken into consideration and intent is one aspect to look at. but also here you have the shooting of jamal clark and you have written into police code of minneapolis police department about a duty to intervene. the idea that you have a duty in obligation that if you see a colleague engaging in a behavior that's excessive and does not
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meet the current threat pose thed that may have to intervene. we see it all played out intent or not. >> laura, thank you. omar hen at the scejimenez, you ground there. i wonder if people around you are receiving this news yet? are have you gotten any reaction from people around there? >> reporter: i have not seen visible reaction just yet. we know there is a crowd over there standing together as they have been in front of minnesota's state patrol here. it is big news for a lot of protesters and even the family as well who have been looking for something to happen with these officers that the very least one being taken into custo custody, the officer's knee on
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the neck of george floyd. he had 18 prior complaints against him of the police department, they would not go into further details of what those were. this is someone who has been a central figure for better or worse in the story here. to have him be taken into custody, you wonder what sort of effect it will have on the passion of protesting that we may or may not see into the evening. we may see things calmer than what we have seen. at this point, only time will tell, brianna. >> omar, standby for me. i want to head to miguel marquez on the ground in minneapolis as well.
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give me a sense of the scene where you are. i don't know if there is any people who have congregated if you are getting any reaction at this point. we heard from the activists this is not if you have fenough for . they feel the other three were complicit in this. >> reporter: it is not enough. this is the time where the state of minnesota and minneapolis needs credibility to people on the street. there are other information and everyday for this officer that was met on the streets with absolutely shock and dismay. last night was in part of probably the response to that:
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the other individuals that i spoke to, they see -- turn around and the state police here are saying that they have to sort out who they were and they did identify them. the state in the city needs to build trust with the people. they have done anything bu but -- this one arrest will be welcomed. it is certainly not going to quench the anger people are feeling in this town right now and that justice is being denied. >> miguel, thank you so much. >> let's bring in josh campbell. he's also there in minneapolis. we are hearing these developments that derek chauvin, the officer who had his knee on george floyd's neck as floyd
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said he could not breathe. he's taken into custody, we are waying for waiting for details. >> i want to hear your opinion with your fbi background. >> reporter: many people want to hear justice to be done quickly. we heard state officials described this 48 hours of an c anarchy, we are showing here protests and buildings being burned. people are being outraged. the cell phone video of a black man dying in police custody.
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a lot are telling us they don't want to be associated with the looters but they did want justice. a major development here. i will say this is just one step. it is yet to be determined whether or not this person is prosecuted or convicted but a major development with him now taken into custody by police. it tells us that investigation is moving forward and again as the governor says swift but fair. i am getting a sense of some of the smoke in the area. swift but fair, we'll wait to see whether or not the prosecution or the officer's peers will move it to the next level. >> josh, stay with us, standby. i want to bring in michael eric dyson back in. >> we listened to the activists and they heard this news. clearly this is something they welcome. they do not think this is enough. there is so much ahead of us. we don't know what the charges
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are and we don't know what's happening with the other officers. tell us your reaction of this news of derek chauvin who is now taken into custody. >> it is tragic of all of this to make a gesture legally, much more morally that other people can take for granted. when we mention officers and the muslim man who mistakenly shot a white woman in the dark was immediately arrested and then dispatch within the legal system. black people have to fight as hard as they can to get what other people can take for granted. we are meant to view this as a ceiling and it is nothing but a floor. we should congratulate for it?
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no. this is the first step of a majestic sweep of justice that will clear the cobweb of inequality that existed in the culture there in minneapolis. this is at least the first step. we have to fight so hard to get him arrested. why do a city have to go in flame flame? the grief of black people. vicious consequences and racial injustice in that city. why does it take the flames of a city to light the path for a district attorney or whoever it is who makes the decision to do what they did today. on top of it when we have the
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president of the united states of america disregarding for the country with outlandish inappropriateness, "when the looting starts the shooting starts." and so cause and effect are confused and the president of the united states of america is a major perpetrator of that. luckily on the scene, african-american people and their allies must not forget, minnesota and minneapolis is a huge -- it is a melting pot. those people who were out there last night are a rainbow coalition of agony and anger and resentment against the vicious necessa viciousness of antiblack directness of those people. thank god people are coming together. maybe we can do it non-violently
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so we can adjudicate for justice for mr. floyd and we can prevent them from happening. >> michael, thank you so much. your words are so important during this moment as they cut through for people to understand what what what's going on. if you can standby for me, former vice president joe biden is speaking on the death of george floyd. >> you know an opportunity to speak with the floyd's family. honorable family, loving one another. once again we have words and heard words, "i can't breathe." an act of brutality so element that did more than deny one more
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black man of america of his civil rights, denied him of his life. deprivining george floyd, one o the things that every american should be able to do, breathe. the same thing happens with briana taylor and george floyd. we spoke their names and with suffering hearts of the endless list. it is a list that dates back for 400 years, black men, black women and black children. it still stains our nation today. sometimes we manage to overlook it. we just push forward with a thousand other tasks of our
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daily lives and it is always there. we see it plainly and we are a country of an open wound. none of this can be turned away. none of this can we hear the words "i can't breathe" and do nothing. we can't fail victims like what martin luther king called the si apali appalling silence of good people. we wonder who would be next? imagine every time your husband or son or wife our daughter left the house, you fear for their safety from bad actors and bad police. imagine if you had to have that talk with your child about not asserting your rights, taking the abuse handed out to them. so, just so they can make it home. imagine having police called on you just for sitting at starbucks or renting an air bnb
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or watching birds. this is a norm black people in this country deal with. you don't have to imagine it. the anger and frustration and the exhaustion is undeniable. that's not america. this is no time for tweets and no time to encourage violence. it is a national crisis, we need leadership now. leadership that'll bring everyone to the table so we can take measure. it is time for us to take a look at the uncomfortable truth. it is time for us to face that deep open wound we have this this nation. we need justice for george
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floyd. hold bad cops accountable and repair relationships between law enforcement and the community they sworn to protect. we need to stand up as a nation with the black community. we need to come together as one america. that's the job. it is going to require those of us who sits in some position to deal with the abuse of power. i believe the beauty of every american to grapple it now. with our silence, we are complicit. nothing about this is easy and comfortable. if we allow this wound to scab over once more, without treating the underlying injury, it will never truly heal. the soul s of america is at
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stake. we must commit. we have to pursue it with real urgencies. we got to make it real. we promise america. we never fully grasp that all men and women are equal, not knowing their creation. i promise you that we'll do everything in our power to seek through it that justice is had and yo. folks, we got to stand up and we got to move and change. >> all right, joe biden with a
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message about george floyd and about the broader situation. i want to bring in michael eric dyson to talk about this. he's discussing this as a wound in the soul of america. he quoted martin luther king jr., talking about the appalling silence of good people. it is the duty of every american to grapple with the issues that are being raised by this moment. micha michael, what did you think in. >> this is leadership. identifying the insight and deepen empathy. i just spoke to the floyd's family. have the president of the united states of america reached out to that family of emotional terms to embrace them his empathy or sympathy for the loss of their beloved family. this is american leadership promise to address this specific incident of justice but draw back and look at the broader
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sweep of america's history and to assign words and balance to black people who have been dehumanized in this culture and redouble so that they will no longer cloud our democratic possibility. this is america. this is not a black versus white issue. this is a right versus wrong issue. in all americans of conscience must be galvanized by the recent events in minneapolis but more broadly, what happened in georgia, what happened in kentucky, and the loss of black life becomes the kind of pornography of black death. the repetition of a cycle of black loss, seeing black people breathe their last minutes on earth beneath the knee of a man who we are told according to the vice chair of the council in minneapolis worked with mr. floyd as a bouncer at an
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establishment. this makes it even more heinous, the disregard for a fellow citizen, a fellow worker. we must come to a point in this nation where we are no longer afraid of black people, not skeptical of their humanity, rejecting the possibility of their essential worthfulness as human beings and until we address that issue, these are smoke clouds. and look, let's be certain. i can't breathe. isn't it interesting that the unprecedented pandemic is symbolized in, i can't breathe, and now the pandemic of racism that has been equally and powerfully appropriate in this country, not being able to breathe. the oxygen of freedom not available for us, not because of the capacity but the air is
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polluted by the refusal to recognize our humanity. that's what must be addressed and joe biden has begun the process, as a political leader of tremendous worth, and sensitivity to address it. >> michael eric dyson, thank you so much. i want to head to minneapolis now where our miguel marquez is there on the ground. he's been covering this story there and miguel, tell me, i understand you have someone with you. >> reporter: i spoke to an activist earlier today about this, and the simple fact is, mr. floyd, with that knee to his neck days ago, if evidence, one hundredth of a percent of that sort was found on anybody who lived in this neighborhood, found on me, was found on you, brianna, we would be arrested and held almost immediately,
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based on probable cause, they say. that is not the sort of treatment that people in this city get, several days, an investigation, we have to see both sides. that press conference yesterday, if they meant to quell concerns and bring the level of anger down, the only thing it did was drive home just how unequal the system is here, people on the ground say. and then to see our own omar jimenez arrested, activists here, people here, they saw a black man arrested on television because he was black. after showing his id, after indicating that he was a reporter, and then afterwards, the state police says, oh, we were just making sure who they were, we didn't know. we had to check their ids. the whole world saw it. and i think people here got that message entirely.
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it will be welcome news that mr. chauvin is arrested but they're expecting that the bar is a hell of a lot higher today, bree ya nah? >> i think you're speaking to a frustration with how many folks they've spoken with who feel they're being told to be satisfied with incremental change, i spoke earlier this week with gwen kracarr, the mot of eric garner and happy to see the officers fired so quickly because it was five years before the officer who put her son in a choke hold, killing him, that he was fired. but at the same time, she said, while she was happy things had moved more quickly, it was so frustrating how things move so slowly, that after all these years, she's grasping at some sort of improvement, but it's such a small one.
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it is not the sea change that folks you've been talking to there on the ground in minneapolis want to see, and miguel, if you can stand by for just a moment, bring in josh campbell on the ground in minneapolis as well. josh? >> reporter: yeah, brianna. we've been learning more about this officer who we've just reported was taken into custody. this is the officer who was seen on that cell phone video footage with his knee on the neck of george floyd. now, i want to talk here with, this is maya santa maria that owns a nightclub behind us as well as other businesses and you knew this officer. you worked with him. what was his role there? >> he was our offduty police officer for the better part of two decades. >> reporter: what was your interaction or experience with him? obviously, worked in security, you were saying, what was he like? >> he was off duty officer. he was kind of a calm gentleman, i never would have expected
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anything like this from him at all, but i did notice that he got very anxious when there was an urban night with a lot of african-american people and officers, certainly not the only one. >> reporter: you saw a different tone or different posture from him when you had african-american patrons versus other races, is that what you're saying? >> yeah, ours is a predominantly latino nightclub. with the latino staff, people behaved in one manner, and then when we had a predominantly african-american clientele, the way in which, the entire event was treated was completely different. >> reporter: give me details, just for our viewers. what are you talking about when you say he treated them differently? >> it's systemic, because it started all the way from licensing and went through the third precinct and then was an expression of also how the officers reacted when they were there. i would just kind of characterize it as skittish, so
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they would get very nervous very quickly and went to pull out the pepper spray with any little thing that might happen, and they certainly acted very kind of group mentality, they always had to call back-up, little tiny thing happened. it was different than what we saw with the latin nights. >> reporter: your club employed the victim here, george floyd. tell me about him and his role. >> george was called in to do extra security as a support on our urban nights, which were usually tuesdays or sundays, and he was just a really nice guy. everybody liked him. that's why he got called in by some of my guys. they come and help us out, we need some help, and he was very well liked in the community, both the latino and the african-american community. >> reporter: going back to officer chauvin, did it surprise you when you saw him in this video? did they know each other based on your experience? they both worked for you at the club. >> i don't suspect they
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recognized each other. even though they may have crossed paths working with me and my team. i don't think they recognized each other. i just like to think that had chauvin realized that was one of my boys, he would have treated him with more humanity, but either way, he should have been treated with more humanity and given mercy when he was begging for his life, and so it's really something that i can't explain. i can't believe that derek chauvin did this. >> reporter: i want to go back to something you just said, because i think it's important. and this is your view of the officer and we're welcome to hear from him and his attorney. we want to know his side but one thing you said is how he treated african-americans saying that he would, the posture was different, they were skittish, you said they would call police as back-up. what did you mean by that? >> one little thing would happen. maybe a fight would break out and then go down stairs and five or six on-duty patrols were there, and that is not what i
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was used to seeing with my regular latin nights and i thought it was a little bit unjustified and just always having to resort to spraying mace everywhere and hitting women and people that had nothing to do with the altercations. it was just unfortunate that it was a very different vibe when we were doing our urban nights on behalf of the police and licensing as well. >> thank you, maya, so much, for giving us your perspective. appreciate it. obviously, brianna, we continue to talk to people here in the community, people who knew both the officer and the victim to get a sense of what they were like. these are were important aspects we're learning about them and obviously, once this moves into the prosecution phase, if it gets that far, we'll learn more about what officers are doing, but until they are transparent with their investigation, we'll continue to keep digging in regard to people that actually knew them to get a better sense of who the victim was and who this officer was, brianna. >> josh, you really gave us a sense of that with that interview with maya santamaria.
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laura coats, next steps here. george floyd with chauvin in custody. where does it go from here? >> what are the actual charges? being arrested essentially means that you have been brought under the custody of the police but what charges are you actually looking at? you can't just simply have somebody handcuffed and bring them into a holding charge and not state any charges for an extended period of time. the question is, what will be the underlying charge? it need not be a comprehensive set of charges. they could add some later, they could take some away. but normally you'd have one lead charge to present to the judge as to why this person has been arrested and why they're asking the person to be detained. that's the second issue everyone's going to watch for. if he is, in fact, held on murder
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