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wa welcome to prime time at the top of the hour, ugly scenes here in new york tonight. there is supposed to be a curfew, started at 11:00. didn't get it done. shimon prokupecz is on the phone. along with jason carroll, outside of new york city, part of new york city but right outside of manhattan. first with you, shimon,s that quieted down now? >> it is quieted down. i'm actually driving around now, and it has quieted down. you are still seeing some people out on the street and some of the groups that have been looting. they're still out and about. but what i'm not hearing are the

sirens and police cars that were racing from location to location. >> is this a live picture we're looking at right now? all right. this is earlier tonight. so live is talking to shimon but the picture you're looking at is not from right now. why do i make the distinction? one, accuracy. and two, optimism. you know what i mean? we shouldn't be so anxious to see things as bad as possible and as provocative as that can be. there was a lot of looting and i got more calls tonight than any other night, shimon, from people all over manhattan saying there are no cops and people are busting up stores. even up the tony piece on madison avenue, north of 60th street where all of those huge stores are, that everybody comes to new york to shop at. >> yes, they were there, they were up there, looting as well. i saw looters on fifth avenue. in that area as well. yes, they knew where they were going. like i said to you earlier, it seemed like a very organized effort. some of them had duffle bags.

i saw people with backpacks. so it certainly seemed like an organized effort and it is so widespread, they're now in soho, again, last night, they're back there, and i was getting the impression, where are the police and what's going on and how does this end, and i think what's going on is that police are racing from scene to scene, having to deal with so many different locations, that it's chaos and it gets chaotic and it gets very hard for them to get a handle on it right now. we'll see what happens. the curfew time is changing. it will be 8:00 instead of 11:00. we will see what the mayor says and what ultimately happens. we may need more police here. it may require state police coming in. and it may require other agencies coming in. because what went on here tonight, it is completely unacceptable around and it is

going to pain a lot of people across this city. >> shimon, thank you very much. keep the energy up and the team safe. jason carroll, you are still around the barclay's center? >> we passed that a long time ago. we're in flatbush now. and as you know the evening started with about a thousand people and we're now down to about 50. we still have a number of police officers who are following along, and allowing this now, very small group, to continue on, and even though we're now a few hours now, two hours past curfew, which begs the question, what is going to happen next? and as i was speaking to one of the demonstrators out here. i said, curfew, we're now two hours passed the curfew, still going on, and what are you two going to do and one said i'm going to keep marching until someone tells me to stop.

>> police have not had an aggressive stand on the streets tonight. and demonstrating peacefully. unlike what we've seen in manhattan tonight, we have not seen any evidence of people vandalizing property or looting here. so this has been a peaceful demonstration. and on the onset of this, chris, when i was speaking to one of the organizers out here, i said what is what you hope to accomplish, what they were saying is they're hoping that they can get their message out, and not have it tarnished by the looting that we've been seeing, by the vandalism that we've been seeing in other parts of the city. so for now, again, two hours past curfew, and this very small group now, continues to march along, and police continue to follow. chris? >> all right, jason, thank you very much. stay safe. keep the team safe. let us know if anything changes. dallas, we have ed levadera

there, i've been watching all night, remind us of your situation. >> reporter: it was a peaceful protest here in dallas that started on the steps of courthouse just west of downtown dallas. it is the building just underneath the union tower ball there and the protest has been peaceful much of the night. started marching. made it about a half mile. and then came on to this bridge. the margaret hunt hill bridge just west of downtown dallas and this is where those hundreds of protesters met a wall of police. state police. dallas police. s.w.a.t. teams here. and there were smoke canisters deployed. rubber bullets that were fired off into the crowd as well. and this is where police detained several hundred of these protesters. a little more than two hours ago. everyone of the protesters that we have talked to on the bridge here tonight tell us as soon as they approached the officers, there was no confrontation they say between the protesters, and

the police, that the smoke canisters were deployed and the rubber bullets were fired and that's when the protesters laid down on the ground. police moved in, and zip-tied everyone. now the question is exactly what is going to be done with all of these people. we have seen them bring in city buses. and they're pulling, they're loading the city bus, police vans, and driving them away, to another location here. so this is going to take hours and hours, and it's been interesting, we've heard these protesters as they sit here, calmly waiting patiently, some of them have been singing, they have been chanting george floyd's name, some of them unfurled a banner that said end police brutality. so a great deal of emotion. but throughout much of this night, almost an act of civil disobedience as they got here on to this bridge, essentially shut down the traffic on to the bridge and that's when they laid down in the street, as soon as they saw the wall of law enforcement, coming from the opposite side of the bridge here on the margaret hunt hill bridge. we saw some of those here, not tear gas, but smoke canisters

deployed. this is one of the rubber bullets that was fired on to the crowd, into the crowd, that we saw, just a little while ago, as we were walking along this bridge, and approaching this scene here. but now, all of these people here on this bridge, simply waiting, to be processed, and moved to another location here tonight. and chris, this will take what appears to be hours. >> and have you ever been hit by one those? >> no, no, i have not. our security officer that we're working with tonight said these look very different from some of the pictures i've seen of the rubber bullets fired in minneapolis. our security agent that we're working with tonight, who is a navy special forces officer, he tells us that these are much softer, if you will, and they clearly hurt, but he says they're designed not to penetrate the skin. so perhaps a little less painful, if you will.

i don't want make it seem like, make light of it, if you get hit with this, it is going to sting and hurt and leave a mark. >> i think we were together, i think in ferguson, i think i got hit by one off the rebound there or in baltimore and it is still almost knocked me down. i was running away. i got hit by it. off the ricochet. off hitting something else and then it hit me in the calf and still almost knocked me down. rubber bullet, yes, nonlethal but not an easy thing to deal with. >> we heard from some of these protesters who said that these were fired off at very close range, we saw one protester who was taken away on a stretcher, we don't know the extent of the injuries to the young woman that we saw on that stretcher, so clearly, not something we wants to make light of, but it does give you a sense of perhaps a different type of force was used here on this bridge. what the protesters here have a great deal of questions about is why they, they had been marching on a public street outside of the curfew zone here in

downtown, just off of downtown dallas and then they felt like they were kind of pushed on to this bridge and kind of trapped here and offices came in front of them and then from behind them and started the process of detaining them. the mayor of dallas is saying that he wants to make no comments about what happened here. he says he has some concerns but how all of this unfolded and that he will talk to police commanders and talk more about this tomorrow. so a great deal of confusion about how these people are going to be handled here tonight and a great deal of frustration on the protesters' because they feel all of this was peaceful and an act of civil disobedience. >> transparency matters. law works both ways. that's what it is all about. ed, thank you very much, my brother, be safe and be well. i bring up that thing about the rubber bullets, we say rubber bullets like no big deal. this is a significant use of force against american citizens. we shouldn't take it lightly. the use of tear gas, you know, that's been seen like a war crime, supposed use tear gas in

armed conflict, we're using it on american citizens and terrible stuff and everybody watching tonight has experienced too much of it. these are real things going on in our country now. i know we get tired of things fast in this country. you get used to it. and even covid. you get used to. everybody wants to get back. these are tough times. these are very turbulent times and we need to pay attention. none of it is normal. none of it is okay. now, the president today, may have outtrumped himself. i've never seen anything like what he did today. the combination of lying about being with the people that he was having chased out, speaking about rubber bullets, use of force, tear gas, in a way i hadn't even seen in dc, right when he was saying he was with them, he was an ally. why? so he could stage one of the most really inept photo ops, i think i've ever seen, let alone from trump. outside a church that represents

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drops in his poll numbers with white christians. catholic and protestant. it is the same reason he demanded churches be reopened. it is another thing he doesn't have the power to do by himself. but let's bring in the role of faith in a situation like this. with father edward beck. it's good to see you. how you are? >> i'm good. good to see you too. >> i love you. i missed you, edward. but you know what, i'm glad to have your counsel tonight. for the audience. full disclosure -- >> you know what? >> yes, father. >> i am just so sad, though, i mean i wish i could talk to you about this in person, because my heart is just breaking, to see what's happening in our country, and the use of faith in this whole instance really breaks my heart everyone more so i'm happy to talk about it with you. >> well, help us understand that, because i'm sure you see a big role of faith in the understanding and the demand for social justice. what bothers you here? >> well, jesus was a nonviolent protester. i mean that was his life.

that's what he stood for. he was against unjust structures. and he didn't condone violence. to oppose those structures. but he certainly did oppose them. in nonviolent protests. and so to see nonviolent protesters pushed back by force, and rubber bullets, and tear gas, for a photo op, in front of a church, a desecrated church, i think you get the symbolism of holding up the bible, the word of god was on the side of protesters who were pushed back so it was so conflictual to me, i didn't understand what i was saying, what was the president trying to say by holding up the bible in front of that church and who was he appealing to. >> that's what i'm asking you. you're the priest. what is that supposed to mean when you hold up a bible in front of a church? what does that mean? that he's holy? what is he doing right there? >> or he is representing somehow the word of god or standing for

the word of god. he was standing for the be a ti, the antithesis of it though. >> that's why i wanted to have the conversation you with. i don't understand the play. just in terms of raw political persuasion, see, i'm a man of god, i'm here, these protesters, therefore i guess, are on the opposite side of god. otherwise you would node to make no show of being on the side of god, i suppose. >> and obviously, i think he's trying to play to a base that he is losing, as you mentioned, he's losing support, especially among white christians, and evangelicals because what they're seeing is that even though abortion is important to them, their there are other pro life issues and that this president is not standing on the side of those pro life issues. so abortion, important, yes. but so is the environment. so is immigration. so is care of the poor. all of these other things that this president seems to fall

short on. >> you're a little unusual, as a catholic, in this regard, father. >> tell me about it. >> here's how. the idea of pro life, the christian political position seems to be no, no, no, no, unborn life, we are in favor of protection of unborn life. once it's born, then we don't have the same feelings anymore. we're not -- >> that's not christian, is it? the christian position is matthew 25. did you feed the hungry. did you visit the imprisoned. did you clothe the naked. that's the christian position. so if you corrupt that position, or you use it for your own end, and you say this is the only one that matters, that's not representation of a true christian position. >> i agree. but in politics, that's where it's become. right? the christian conservatives, right, which that has become a political faction, they are not taking the christian position the way you just outlined it. it is really just about

abortion. and then after that, they're pretty good with just about anything he wants to do to anybody. >> well, the right wing christian persuasion, i would say, would look just at that but i think more moderate christians and certainly more progressive christians, would see what cardinal berdinad would call the full garment approach, it can't be just about one issue because life as you said after the womb is just as important, so if you're not caring for the poor, if you're not feeding the hungry, if you're not welcoming the stranger, the immigrant, how you are living the message of this nonviolent protester jesus, whom you really are maligning with what happened there tonight. >> when you see the situation, you're not, this isn't new to you, and just for people at home, father beck is a passionist, okay, he is a member of a religious community, and catholic, they spend their time going from problem area to problem area, dealing with the passion of the christ, which is of course human surf suffering.

so you've seen a lot of this. it never changes, father. why would anybody have hope that it ever will change in america. >> well, i mean that is what our mission is working for, right? because unless the hearts of men and women are converted, unless we really see and believe that we're all created in the image of god, that god has no color, no gender, no sexual orientation, no social economic strata, i mean that god, the universal god, who we say is creator, creates us in god's image, so that means it's all of us. >> edward, can you hear me? we're going to reset father beck, why do i call him edward,

why does he call me mo? he's my family priest. i'm very close to us. he lives in california now. his name is edward. that's why i'm calling him that. it is not a lack of deference. we're resetting his signal. this is a really important point. we all know that trump did what he did today is a stunt. but it is an invitation for us to think about faith as an extension of what you're going to fight for and fight against. edward, i lost you, about 20 seconds after that. >> what i said then -- >> say it again. >> i don't remember where you lost me. >> just pick it. go for it. you only made about three points anyway. so go for it. >> i was saying if we're created in the image of god, god has no sex, no gender, no color, no sexual orientation, it's universal love, so until we disspell this notion that god is a white man, with a white beard,

sitting on throne of judgment, if anybody doesn't look like that is somehow less than god and i think the hearts of with men and women have to be converted that we're all equal and have the same opportunities and should have the same opportunities and dignity and respect and i just don't think we're there yet. think we don't believe we're equal. we don't believe we're created equal. and i think until that happens nothing is going to change. and i've seen my mission, and the church's mission, is to really reveal a god of love, who says yes, i am for all of you, and you are all the same. >> although, you know, then we see faith, not co-opted by any liberal political entity, but by conservative ones, that are usually about restrictions and con straints. gay is wrong. this type of behavior is wrong. this kind of identity is wrong. you know, there seem to be in the no business. not in the love mercy business. >> but mo, they get the attention, and they get the press. but i really don't think the majority, that's not my

experience of ministering in the church. i mean i meet very balanced, middle of the road, sometimes somewhat progressive, and the other element that i see and hear is a minority. they do net a lot of attention granted but i don't think where most people come down. i think most people are about justice, most people, most christians are caring about the environment, they're seeing it as a need, they're seeing immigration as a gospel issue. i think that's where most people come and i think that's why i think trump is losing some of his base and i can't just go with one issue and if you look at what the man says and does, he does not walk the talk. so how can i align myself with that? i think that's the question that's arising in people's minds. >> one thing is for sure. if the majority doesn't start seeing itself in the minority, we'll never fix the problems that bring us here tonight. it will never happen. you can call them an other all

you want, you can call them thugs and say they deserve it, they don't listen, they don't do this, you ascribe any negative tendencies you want, it's still your problem if you're in the majority of this country because only you can change it, the minority doesn't have the power to change prejudice and systemic prejudice on its own so unless the majority embraces it and sees themselves in the problem, they'll never fix it. father edward beck, you're always a gift, i mess you, every time i see you, i'm reminded that i want to see you more. >> thank you. >> love you, father. >> love you too. >> i always feel a little bit better when i have some beck in my life. father edward beck. as if new york city hasn't already been through enough with this pandemic, right, the epicenter, the city is now being torn apart, literally, by rioters. now again, you know, a protester, and a rioter, are different people. if you just run up and down madison everybody trying to

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lieutenant darren, good to have you, first of all, and thank you for your service. >> thanks for having me, chris, and i'm glad to have you back on the air with the covid pandemic. >> thank you very much. first of all, feel free to disagree. i think 11:00 is too late. they should have started it earlier tonight, the curfew, give themselves more time to kind of put suggestions in people's head and organize in certain areas. >> that could be subjective. like you mentioned, we could agree to disagree. when we look at the covid pandemic, the covid-19 pandemic, we have gotten to this point, because we've been on a lockdown for i want to say two and a half months, so as a result of that, we've become more accustomed to being at home, more sheltered and in place so to speak, so in the wake of the recent, what happened to mr. floyd, is creating an outrage throughout the community and not just here in new york but i want to say nationally, and you have a lot of people that have a lot of frustration, just based on being in a house for that extended period of time.

and they have resorted to coming out. but it is just so unfortunate is we have two different factions, as you pointed out earlier, we have people who are protesting, which is within their constitutional rights, but then you have a small component of people that are engaged in riotous behavior and those individuals engaging in that riotous behavior is garnering the attention from police departments and not just new york but on a national level because you can't have lawless. because when we take into consideration the social contract, it affords us as citizens protections by government. and it's just not coming to fruition as it relates to managing and marshalling in these rioters as we speak. >> the mayor is moving the curfew, extending it to tomorrow, tuesday, and moving it back to 8:00 p.m. what do they need better to give themselves a better chance of saving more property or is that not a focus, you are worried about life and fires and stuff like that? >> well, i think it is a

compilation of things. i'm disappointed in the mayor's leadership as it relates to managing this crisis in particular. i think that he's going more towards a regressive stance, and i think this, he's looking to echo the sentiments of the public in connection to what happened to mr. floyd in minneapolis, minnesota. we all agree that that was a tragedy. that was a classic example of overpolicing in a particular community. but what we're trying to right the ship here, in a place like new york, we need to have a formidable presence. when i say a formidable presence, i don't mean overpolicing or an aggressive stance but merely setting forth an agenda that can protect us as citizens and i clearly see that mayor deblasio has failed as a result in connection to protecting us because when we look at the looting that has happened in these stores, commercial businesses being burned, these shop owners are the people that are going to be the key to the economic revival of when we come out of the covid-19 pandemic. and if their businesses are not

up and running, then it sets us back, because we need the socioeconomic empowerment to move forward. and it just hasn't set forth the necessary agenda for the nypd to secure these businesses as a result. >> what do you do better? >> well, there's a compilation of things. one of the first things that we don't see on camera is there's a back channel negotiation that should be occurring between police executives and elected officials, and community leaders. the triangulation of that group is going to focus on a lot of the agitators that we have that are sparking the violence, and we can get those people removed, because we have to take into consideration, in a place like new york, with 365 square miles with 8.5 million people, with a police department of 38,000, and i should say sworn officers of 38,000. 38,000 officers pales in comparison to 8.5 million people. therefore, it's necessary that we engage a symbiotic

relationship with the community, and have the community assist us in removing these agitators. and once these agitators are removed, i think we can gradually get to a point of normalcy. but right now, that back channel negotiation should be happening. >> so when people say to you, listen, you were on the job, you know what it's like to be brown in new york city, as a man, it will never change, it will always be like this, it has always been like this, since you and i were kids, the generation before, and police do things, and minority communities, that they don't do elsewhere, the system doesn't fix it, people say they have been fixing it for years, it has never happened, what do you say? >> well, i think it bifurcates in two different directions. the first is social economic empowerment. historically when we look to communities of cover they have been a recipient of a miscarriage of justice in connection with the

socioeconomic empowerment. and then when we look to the second component of the miscarriage of justice, when we look at the african-american, i should say the black and brown communities, oftentimes, they have been subjected to overpolicing in those communities. so when you look at those two aspects, it's a very arduous and difficult task and i don't think it's a one fix solution. i think this is more a geographical strategy that needs to be applied. you're a native new yorker, chris and you can understand there is a tremendous difference between the population of staten island and the south bronx so it is not a one fix all solution. so therefore, we need smart people at the table to device a solution, a strategy on how to engage each community in the city of new york. because if that doesn't happen, it's going to continue to spiral out of control, and this is something that has been happening consistent for years on end. what often happens, not just with the nypd, but i want to say all police, police departments nationally, they will put in place a provision based on a

situation that went left, and i'll give you an example. eric garner for example. right after eric garner's situation, we saw this outcry forri implicit bins training within police departments nationally, and the nypd implemented implicit bias training and there was no sustained way. let's look at it six months, a year later and evaluate the process and make sure it is sound. unfortunately that has not occurred. so as a result of the failure to implement a sustained peace, we still continue to have these incidents such as eric garner here in new york, and we even go back as far as the lapd, the rodney king situation. and there is a gen remark we can go on but i think the revolutionized professional development in police departments and the assessment of peace and that's something that has been a void for years on end. >> thank you so much for your

service. and thank you for your intelligence. appreciate you making this much more understandable for the audience. god bless, and be well. >> all right, thanks again. >> all right. all right, so for all the protests, anguish, outcry, we've all seen it. we can't forget it. that this is also about a community of pain, and mourning. now, earlier, george, floyd's brother, visited the spot where his brother took his last breath. he took a knee where his brother died. and the crowd mourned with him. in silence. his family says they don't want their loved one's death to be in vein. that real change can come from this. and that violence is not the way. >> i understand you're upset. i've dealt with that. so if i'm not over here loud

enough, if i'm not over here blowing up stuff, if i'm not over here messing up my community, then what ya'll doing? what ya'll doing? ya'll doing nothing. because that's not going to bring my brother back at all. my family was a peaceful family. my family is god-fearing. yeah we're upset. but we're not going to take it. we're not going to be repetitious. in every case of police brutality, the same thing has been happening. you protest. ya'll destroy stuff. and if they don't move, you know why they don't move, because it is not their stuff, it is our stuff, and they want us to destroy our stuff. they're not going to move.

so let's do this another way. let's stop thinking about it in this manner. for everybody. and agitate yourself, don't wait for somebody else to tell you who's who. educate yourself and know who you're voting for. do it peacefully. please. my brother moved here from houston and i used to talk to him, he loved it here, he started driving truck. he was good. so i highly doubt, no, i don't know, i know he would not want ya'll to be doing this.

>> i mean sometimes you just got to keep it very simple. can you imagine george, your brother, your father, your son, and this happened, you saw that video, you saw those officers standing around, all that time, all those people, asking them to stop, and imagine that, being in a moment like that, and still having the wherewithal to talk to people, and say, here's what i want, here's what you should do, you ought to be thinking of others and how to motivate them, at a moment when you happen to be so, so low. if nothing else, i just really hope that everybody's able to grasp the pain that is being experienced. that's the word you just don't hear enough. maybe it's just me. maybe i don't think about it enough. hurt and pain. i think anger. i see anger. anger in the streets. righteous indignation. and then anger that's carried off into ways it is not righteous. but maybe if we just focused on

the hurt and the pain, and understanding that that's what is being felt, maybe we would see it differently. maybe we would think about how to address it differently. maybe that's what it is. maybe it is because we just see it as anger, and we don't see anger as having any kind antidote other than mourning. when you see someone who is angry, you don't think about helping them, or at least understand, sympathy, not empathy, very powerful moments, and now it is about what happens next, to what an elected official in new york, who is trying to bring about an end to the protests. so how did the official who went there and tried to get us to a better place wind up in handcuffs? let's get his story next. how do your teeth get a dentist-clean feeling?

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hit by a bike. pepper sprayed. handcuffed. that's a description from one new york state senator of what happened to him at a peaceful protest in barclay center recently in brooklyn. his name is state senator zelner myra who joins us now. myrnie. senator, how did this happen. >> thank you for having me, chris. i am from brooklyn. i happen to represent a huge swath of central brooklyn and when i heard there was a group of folks protesting police brutality i decided to make my way down in one, solidarity and two, in my position as elected official, someone who has relationships with law enforcement. someone who could act as a liaison between those who were protesting and the law enforcement officers present. as i was obeying orders, they were telling us to back up, i was backing up. trying to protect some of the

protesters behind me. being compliant. i started getting hit in my back by bicycles wielded by the police officers. i was pushed. i was shoved. ultimately pepper-sprayed. and subsequently handcuffed. simply because i was there to forcefully protest. >> did you, did they know that you were who it says you are on the back of your shirt and did you make it clear to them that you were a state senator? >> so chris, i alerted law enforcement as soon as i arrived that i was there. i made sure that those who i had relationships with knew that i was coming beforehand. and as you mentioned, i had a neon green shirt on, with my name and title, emblazoned on the from escalating out of control. >> did they, when they arrested you, what happened after?

>> so i was pepper sprayed. and, to be frank, crying out because my eyes were burning, and my hands were behind my back. and i was asking why i was being detained and not getting an answer. and it took a couple of minutes for some of the chiefs to realize who i was. i was, then, taken aside. i had my zip ties cut. and i received medical attention. but it was only because of my title, that i was able to not be processed. >> if you were just black man, on the street, you think they wouldn't have been listening to you the same way? and you wouldn't have got -- what was that that they sprayed on you, milk, to try to help with the teargas? >> yeah. so the unfortunate reality of this is that it was an indiscriminate pushing. indiscriminate spraying. indiscriminate handcuffing, and had i not had the luxury of my

title, i would have been in the system and processed, much like any of the other protestors there that night. now, i've never been arrested in my life. i have never been pepper sprayed in my life. and the first time that both of those things happened was as a state senator, protesting police brutality. >> so when people say to you, senator, you see? i mean, you can't even control what they do to you. it'll never be what we want it to be. we'll never be equal. we'll never be loved by this country, the way we love it. there will never be fairness under law. this will always be minority and majority country. what do you say, to give people hope? >> this speaks to the pain, the rage, the passion, that we're seeing on the streets right now. because it doesn't matter what your station in life is. in the dna of this country, unfortunately, is brutality against people that look like me. and what we're doing right now, on the streets, is expressing that rage.

we are expressing the hope that this country can be what it professes to be. and we can achieve that, only, when we have justice. we hear that common refrain. no justice, no peace. that is a two-part equation. one precedes the other. there needs to be justice, in order for there to be peace. and until we have accountability, until we see that there are consequences for police misconduct, we're going to continue to see unrest. >> senator, thank you very much for being on the show. i want you to come back and continue this conversation. i'm sorry that the context tonight, is you having to go through all these horrible things. but, look, you always have to go through life as having a purpose. you will now understand when this happens to other people, what it feels like, what it means, and why it demands attention when it is done in the wrong circumstances. senator, thank you. i'm glad you're feeling better. and i'm glad you were there for your constituents.

it means a lot to them to see their leaders in their midst. god bless and be well, and i'll speak to you soon. >> thanks for having me, chris. >> all right. it's not a position. it's a right to protest. constituents appreciate it. their leaders should be there, right? that's why you put them in office. those men and women are supposed to be by your side. they work for you. a lot of hurt, like the senator said. like i hope we all understand now. seven long days. but, amid the pain, there have been moments of light, of hope, of truth. protestors helping police keep the peace. police making peace with protestors. cnn's tom foreman has more. >> that is a target store in new york, and those are not police but protestors protecting it. standing up to potential looters and vandals, telling them to go away, and that is happening in communities all across the land. >> people work too hard, too hard. you ain't gonna do it in front of me. >> don't push the gate! stop!

but when you do that, they don't come after them, they come after us. >> amid the images of destruction, these moments of people incongressly fighting to keep the peace are captivating. in d.c., a hooded man is breaking up pavement, what some have thrown. protestors rush him. in moments, they strip away his mask and drag him to the police yelling, take him, he's yours. >> i want to make this a parade, not a protest. >> in other places, the quest for cooperation has gone even further. >> we hear you all. >> with officers lowering their guard, taking knees, exchanging handshakes with protestors, and marching for the cause. >> what we had tonight was a peaceful protest. and us joining them, in a symbolic way, to kind of recognize what had happened, that's the least we can do. >> even comforting the weary.

>> no justice, no peace! >> i'm hurt, same way you hurt. like you hurt. like everybody out here is hurt. >> these quiet, little acts of kindness and pleas for peace are easily lost amid all the noise. but they are occurring everywhere, giving hope to those looking for someone to lean on amid the fear and fury. ♪ we all need somebody to lean on ♪ >> all right. that's all for us tonight. thank you for watching. the news of course continues right now. you know what's good about this? your sign's pointing at my sign, so people are gonna look at my sign.

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in the united states and all around the world. i'm natalie allen. >> you're watching cnn's breaking news coverage of the ongoing racial protests across the u.s. >> we are witnessing the seventh-straight night of heated protests on a night in which president donald trump has threatened to send soldiers into the streets. these protests, of course, sparked by the death of an unarmed, black man, george floyd, while in police custody, one week ago now, in minneapolis. >> across the u.s., another night of looting has been met, once again, with teargas and dozens of arrests. retail giant macy's says its flagship department store in new york was breached. curfews are now in effect in major cities, like new york, philadelphia, washington, atlanta, chicago, and los angeles. and with army helicopters hovering over the capitol, president trump issued an ultimatum to state governors. if they fail to bring the violence under control, he will send in federal troops to restore law and order. in