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break up a peaceful protest in front of the leading symbol of american democracy. great job done by all, the president brags in a morning tweet. overwhelming force, domination. that overwhelming force and domination was used against american citizens peacefully exercising their first amendment right to free speech, peacefully voicing their anger at the death of yet another black man in police custody. tear gas and flash grenades, you see it there, and batons used to clear lafayette park right across from the white house. a use of federal force and taxpayer dollars to clear a path for a photo op. the president, who almost never goes to church, posing in front of a historic church, holding up a bible. the mayor of washington, d.c. calls it an outrage. >> we were very shocked and, quite frankly, outraged that people who were not violating the curfew and who did not seem
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to have provoked attack were attacked and moved out by the federal law enforcement officials who were directed to clear the way for the president. >> the episcopal bishop here in washington, d.c. sees nothing christian in the president's stunt. >> let's not forget the real pain that's spread before us every second of every day in these last weeks. and so that's the real thing. this was a charade that in some ways was meant to bolster a message that does nothing to calm the soul and to reassure the nation that we can recover from this moment. which is what we need from a president. >> and the democrat looking to replace the incumbent also took issue. >> the president held up the bible at st. john's church
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yesterday. i just wish he opened it once in a while instead of brandishing it. if he opened it, he could have learned something. they're all called to love one another as we love ourselves. it's really hard work, but it's the work of america. donald trump isn't interested in doing that work. >> there is so much happening at once, it is hard to keep track and hard to keep context. the president of law and order, as he now calls himself, wants you to forget about the coronavirus and those early days when he insisted there would be no pandemic and americans were not at serious risk. the overwhelming majority of the protestors wants you to remember george floyd and the police force used to kill him eight days ago. thousands are expected to take steps in houston today to honor the life of george floyd. his family members will be there for a march to city hall. floyd george moved from houston. police is several cities raining
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down tear gas and rubber bullets on protestors. in new york city, broken store windows, looting, police trying, trying to control that situation. but we also saw scenes like this, peaceful protestors marching together, chanting the name over and over again, george floyd. the president's walk to st. john's church was part of a day-long law and order theme. he called governors weak on a conference call and threatened to send in the military if looting and chaos continued. this was his rose garden message as protestors across the street were being cleared. >> i am your president of law and order and an ally of all peaceful protestors. but in recent days, our nation has been gripped by professional anarchists, violent mobs, looters, antifa and others. by far our greatest days lie
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ahead. >> cnn's pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins us along with white house reporter jeremy diamond. barbara, i want to start with you and some new reporting you have. there is some ease in the military brass about what the president is asking, right? >> there is among some officials and we're beginning to hear more and more of this. a short time ago the head of the national guard called this admission of support to federal authorities. that's what they call it when they put the national guard out there. he called it the most dangerous mission that the national guard has stateside in this country. we had another national guard officer -- actually, the head of the georgia national guard yesterday tell reporters this is a sign of the times, we need to do better as a country if it requires basically the national guard to be out on the street. the president also very clearly signalling he is willing to send active duty forces, some are already on standby, of course. this would be a significant escalation. and he already is using the
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secretary of defense, mark esper, and the chairman of the joint chiefs mark milly, as visual signals of professional intention. they were with him yesterday, general milly walking across lafayette park in his battle fatigues, something we rarely see. general milly went back out on the streets last night. have a listen of a little bit of what he had to say. >> just allow freedom to assemble and freedom of speech. that's perfectly fine. we support that. we took an oath to the constitution of the united states of america to do that and to protect everyone's rights, and that's what we do. we've got the d.c. national guard out here and i'm just checking to see how well they're doing, that's all. >> remember, this is the chairman of the joint chiefs. he has no authority to run operations, if you will. his only legal job is to be the chief military adviser to the president of the united states. that is what a chairman of the
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joint chiefs does. president trump repeatedly talking about putting general milley in charge. he can't legally be in charge of any of this. he can advise the president, the president clearly putting him out there along with the defense secretary as a very visual signal to the country, john. >> visual signal, powerful signal. barbara starr, thanks. jeremy diamond, we showed the president's clip at the top where he says he stands with every peaceful protestor. as he was saying that, peaceful protestors were being shoved and pushed and tear gas was being used against them a few feet away from his house. >> reporter: it was an incredibly powerful split screen moment, john, and one that really exposed what the president is all about here when he talks about being a law and order president. the president, in his remarks, has tried to distinguish between the violent rioters and the looters in the streets versus the peaceful protestors, even declaring himself an ally to peaceful protestors. it became very clear that the president, when it comes to actually enforcing that kind of
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law and order stance, sees no distinction, because that is exactly what we saw yesterday when federal law enforcement officers, park police as well as the national guard, which was called up by the federal government, were firing tear gas and rubber bullets at peacefully demonstrating protestors just moments before the president walked over to st. john's episcopal church for that photo op yesterday. again, very clear what the president here is ultimately doing. john, the president wants this approach to be followed by others as well. yesterday on a call with governors, he berated them, saying that most of you are weak and urging them strongly to call up their state national guards in order to bring a military presence, military footprints to tamping down these protests across the country. you also mentioned, john, that tweet from the president this morning talking about total domination. this is, again, total domination not over the looting and the
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rioting that we had seen several nights ago in washington, d.c. last night, john, those protests remained peaceful almost entirely throughout, and yet the president this morning congratulating himself and talking about overwhelming force. john? >> that is the distinction the president clearly does not get. looting and violence should not be tolerated. those people across the street in lafayette park were doing as they are gifted to do as american citizens. jeremy diamond, barbara starr, appreciate the reporting there. joe biden is in philadelphia there drawing a very sharp contrast with the president. >> "i can't breathe. i can't breathe." george floyd's last words but they didn't die with him. they're still being heard, echoing all across this nation. >> cnn's arlette saenz is there in philadelphia. a rare trip because of the coronavirus for the president outside of delaware.
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it's a very detailed speech. he wants congress to move quickly on police reform. he says he can't wait for the next president of the united states. what was the former vice president hoping to accomplish today? >> reporter: well, john, joe biden came here with this message that the country is going through a wake-up call right now. and he really issued his harshest criticism of president trump to date. and what biden was trying to do here was present this contrast with president trump in both temperament and leadership style. he said that president trump is a part of the problem, and that right now he is focused on appealing to his base instead of adhering to the needs of the american public. he also said the country is crying out for leadership, and joe biden tried to present himself as that steady hand who can unite the country. take a listen to a bit of his message about his vision going forward. >> the moment has come for our nation to deal with systemic gracism. to deal with the growing
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economic inequity that exists in our nation, to deal with the denial of the promise of this nation made to so many. you know, i've said from the outset of this election that we're in the battle for the soul of this nation. >> reporter: battle for the soul of the nation. that has been a central tenet of joe biden's campaign since he launched over a year ago. you heard him reinforcing that message today. he also challenged americans to look at what's going on and ask themselves, is this who we are? biden also leans heavily into empathy. he talked about the loss of his own son, bo biden, five years ago from brain cancer and tied that into the loss of the life of george floyd, his family and others who are struggling with similar losses in their life. he said a president needs to feel pain and to care, and that's something we have seen biden project over and over on the campaign trail, those
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moments of empathy. as you mentioned, this was biden's first trip outside delaware since mid-march, since the coronavirus pandemic really brought campaigning to a standstill. he decided to come here to philadelphia, which has been the site of many of those protests that we've seen across the country, and he came here today going back to that central message from his campaign, painting this as a battle for the soul of the nation. john? >> arlette saenz for us in philadelphia with the former vice president. it's hard to keep the cal enl d -- calendar, it's hard to track five months from today is the election. nancy pelosi reacting to the president, holding a bible of her own. she says it's time for the president to be a heal erin stead of f -- healer instead of fanning the flames. >> protestors in front of the white house were beaten. some came out to beat them so
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they could clear the area so the president could come out and go forward. what is that? that that has no place and it's time for us to do away with it, a time to heal. >> let's get some perspective. brendan buck was the top aide to speaker paul ryan and george gaynor, and of course a cnn political analyst. brendan, i want to start with you. in the age of trump we think, this norm has been broken, this norm has been broken. using force to clear demonstrators from lafayette park who are demonstrating peacefully, who were exercising their first amendment right, that is not something i would ever see on national television. >> if you look at it now, the president has had two major crises in the last few months, first on the pandemic and now on these racial issues, and he's bungled it twice. it was surprising to me he was
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so direct about being the president of law and order. that was race-baiting. we all know what that was about, stretching back to 1968. so i think for a lot of us to go back, john, you and i to go back some, i just have never thought a president would deliberately incite silence instead of calming the nation, soothing the nation in a time of crisis. it just never occurred to me that would happen. it's not the voice of democracy, that's the voice of authoritarianism. i do think the president blundered on that, and can he make up the difference? i think he should, i think he should try, i think he should reach out. i do think joe biden was wise to come out of the basement and make that speech today. it was not the blockbuster speech that obama gave in that same hall back in 2008, but it was a good speech and it was more presidential. >> and brendan, coming in on that point as you do, i want to
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read this quote to you from the "washington post." we long ago lost sight of normal, but this was a significantly abnormalimmoral a. the president used force against american citizens, not to protect property, but to soothe his own insecurities. we will all move to the next outrage, but this was a true abuse of power and should not be forgotten. my question is why do we not hear words like yours from other proud conservatives, who do not think any president of the united states, democrat or republican, should turn federal police forces against people who are peacefully demonstrating? >> yeah, it's tough, you know. it ultimately goes down to the fact that the president really has a stranglehold on republican voters and that flows up all the way up. members of congress are reacting to their constituents who think that any time you speak out against the president that you're undermining him and
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hurting him. look, there are a lot of people who think that what we did in the speaker's office enabled donald trump, and i promise you for every person who thinks that, there is another one who thinks that we were undermining him. it's a lot of stuff you don't necessarily hear in mainstream media or on this channel, but there are a lot of voters who simply believe that the president needs to be defended at all costs, and that flows up to members of congress and that's how they end up responding. they're all acting, politically, very rational. >> first we see the president standing at st. john's church quite well. the president standing outside of that church holding a bible. i just want to make that point again, he very rarely goes to church. a couple fridays ago he was in the white house briefing room telling governors to open churches and then he spent the weekend golfing. he did not go to church when he had that choice. we also saw the former vice president yesterday meeting with faith leaders at a church in delaware. the election is five months from
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today. if it were held today, all would tell us it was joe biden's to win, but it is not today. >> five months can be a long, long time especially with so many crises building up together. i don't know how this is going to end, but, you know, one of these things could turn in his direction, in trump's direction. you could have -- if there is some major looting or murder or whatever it may be coming from the hard left, i don't see that happening, but if it were to happen, then the dynamics of this race could change pretty swiftly. you cannot count on donald trump at this point, especially in the swing states. things swing in swing states, as you well know. >> brendan, to that point, you served two republican speakers. it is hard to get a house majority. you've seen what's happened in the midterms last year, and especially in suburban america. that is why nancy pelosi, not a republican, is the speaker of the house right now. when you see the president with
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law and order, it's george wallace, it's richard nixon, it's in the rearview mirror a long time ago. can you look at a map, and whether you're running a presidential campaign and trying to keep the senate, which a lot of republicans are nervous about, is that the message you can sell in today's america? >> i think those suburban women voters are the ultimate target we need to be talking about. everybody talks about the president riding out his base, and that's clearly what they're doing. but you can't win without the suburbs. that's where we got killed in 2018, and everything the president does continues to hurt us with that group, and i don't know how you can recover that way. i don't want to make predictions about what's going on, i don't even know if there is a political strategy behind this. i think this is purely what the president wanted to do on a whim. but the extent that you're driving law and order, the way the president talks really does alienate women voters in the
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suburbs. you certainly can't win a majority in the house, and i think it will be really tough to win the white house, alien ate g i ing them. >> brendan, to your point, i would make a prediction about the next hour, that is the state of america. gentlemen, thank you both. up next, independent autopsies deems george floyd's death a homicide. but the independent analysis differs from the county medical examiner on what caused his death. healthier mouth than even the leading multi-benefit toothpaste. crest.
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for the family concludes his death was caused by, quote, asphyxiation from sustained pressure. the medical examiner said mr. floyd died of heart failure. omar jimenez is in minneapolis for that story. so they both agree on what he died from, just how it came about. >> reporter: that's right, they both said george floyd died of a homicide. you touched on differences between the two, but when you look at the autopsy report commissioned by the family, they point to the main reason it being asphyxia saying it was due to compression in the neck and back. in that one they say there is no significant underlying disease of the heart. then you look at the hennepin county medical examiner's report, and they say it was due to cardiac arrest, heart failure. both agree on the cause of death being homicide, but in their reports they both say fentanyl
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and meth, but they don't detail how much was in floyd's system and whether that played any sort of role in this whatsoever. regardless of that, it is going to -- both of these reports will likely play into determining any sorts of criminality in regards to the former officer who has already been charged, and likely if we see charges for any of these other officers as well. outside of that aspect, we have seen eight straight days of protests, and in recent days things have been increasingly peaceful here in the minneapolis area. in fact, just yesterday -- >> omar's microphone went down. omar him jjimenez on the ground us in minneapolis. let's go to chairman of the black association. miss pruett, it is incredibly moving to see people coming to pay tribute to mr. floyd, but we have seen seven nights now of
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violence across the country. from a police perspective, from a black police perspective, what do you see at this moment? >> what i see is people are sill hurting. this is going to take a while. it's like we've been living with our fingers stuck in a dam and now all of a sudden the finger got tied and the dam has burst. while it may be peaceful in minneapolis, as we know, it's not peaceful in other areas of the country. >> you know the statistics all too well. what is it like to be a black member of a police force to try to convince your white colleagues that this is built into the system. you need to have pause, you need to step back, you need to have more respect. >> listen, i'm not sure that convincing is a good word. just like right now when things are being forced upon us, we have a pandemic. we have an epidemic with police brutality in the country, at least that's the perception of a
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black community. so while we're trying to convince, we're wasting time. we're past the time of trying to convince someone, now we've got it square in our faces. i'm talk to go my peers aing to saying, what are you seeing? while officers are kneeling, that's great for solidarity. but several factions of policing, several policing organizations stood against him while the national black police association stood for him because we understood the struggle. so while police officers are kneeling, i want them to say we will no longer stand for anyone, particularly black people, to be marginalized and abused by the police structure in this country. that's what i want to hear verbalized. >> and i want to ask you what you think when you hear things like this from the president of the united states. let's listen. >> i am your president of law and order and an ally of all
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peaceful protestors. we are ending the riots and lawlessness that has spread throughout our country. we will end it now. america is founded upon the rule of law. >> from a police officer perspective, does that help? >> from a black police officer's perspective, no, it does not help. listen, it's egregious to people to loot and destroy property, but people have a first amendment right to peacefully protest. we watched a crowd of people standing in front of the white house yesterday and be pelted with rubber bullets -- i'm sorry, tear gas. so now we're going to weaponize the police against people who are constitutionally in the right in terms of their first amendment rights? this is just crazy, and that whole catch phrase about law and order, we've heard it many times before, and what it really does
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mean to us is that now we're going to overpolice the black community, so no, we're not in -- we don't feel what the president is saying right now. >> sonia pruitt, thank you for your expertise and insights. >> thank you. next, theie pip episcopal outraged at the president over trump photo op. she joins us next. - [narrator] did you just reward yourself
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the president and the first lady are visiting st. john paul's shrine in washington today. it's a follow-up to the bizarre, seemingly, made-for-tv moment in three acts. first, the president marching to st. john's episcopal church. then the photo op, the president posing in front of the church holding up a bible. finally he coaxed over several members of his administration team, including the defense secretary, the attorney general and the national security adviser to join him for more photos. you see his press secretary there as well. with me now the bishop of the
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episcopal diocese, reverend megan bootie. when you see the president in front of a church which has been symbolic because of its location to the white house. what did that mean to you seeing the president not read the bible, but shake the bible? >> there was an abuse of political power with the way the nonviolent crowds were cleared with tear gas and riot police so he could make his walk to the church. i would say his appropriation of the bible and standing in front of the church was a misuse of sacred space and sacred symbols. somehow aligning himself and his immediate rhetoric with that of
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god, the word of god, and the ministry of the church, and i felt that i needed, on behalf of all of us, to disassociate that, to separate those two things and to say that his words and his actions are, in fact, empathetical to the teachings of jesus. >> for those who do not understand the presidents' roles for years, it goes back to abraham lincoln. look at the importance of this in terms of, as the bishop of the episcopal church in washington, knowing you have this sacred church across the street from the white house, help put it in context for us. >> let me be clear that every church is a sacred church, and st. john's has the distinction of being the neighboring church to the white house. as such, presidents have, from time to time, come there to
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worship, to worship god alongside their fellow citizens in humility and in generally calm decorum. it's also been the chosen site for a prayer service for the president and family members and cabinet members on the day of the inauguration. that is the role that it has played. it is no more or less sacred than any other church in this country, its gift is its proximity and its offering to presidents as fellow believers to have a place of prayer and communion with other christians. >> help me understand how you viewed this from the church perspective when you have this president who very rarely goes to church. you have this president who just a couple fridays ago came into the briefing room demanding governors open churches and then he did not try to go to church that weekend, he went golfing
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instead. to see the bible and to see one of your churches -- i'm sorry, i didn't say it quite right, altars are sacred, i didn't mean to suggest that one was more superior than the other -- to see the united states essentially try to use your church as a political prop. what went through your head? >> exactly what you said, that the president is using sacred symbols for a different agenda and that needed to be called out, and frankly, we needed to turn our attention yet again to the real suffering and the real agony that is facing our country right now. and so for a minute, i don't want to linger on the outrage of this act without turning our attention again to the real issues that we are facing as a country and the need we have for anyone in leadership to address our people with words of solace,
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with words of resolve, with words of hope. if the president had come to pray, if the president had come to offer words of consolation to give people hope for a better day in this country, he would have been welcome. that's the message that we need to offer and proclaim as both political and religious leaders in our country right now. >> bishop budde, thank you so much for your insights and your grace this morning. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. still ahead for us, staggering losses in nursing homes across country from the coronavirus. e first and only full prescription strength non-steroidal anti-inflammatory gel available over-the-counter. new voltaren is powerful arthritis pain relief in a gel. voltaren. the joy of movement.
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dr. eng eelsby, thank you for being with us. we were told as america reopens, the case count is going to go up. when you look, and we can show you the top states reporting cases yesterday, massachusetts, california, illinois, new york and texas were the states with the most new cases yesterday. again, we were told this is inevitable. as you watch this data, are you nervous? is it a manageable number? are there some states where you think we have a problem? >> i think we need to know a little bit more about the data in each state. we are doing much more diagnostic testing over time than we were before, so that will help us find mild and moderate cases and that will drive our numbers up somewhat. how many deaths, how many icu beds, those will make it more concrete to watch. of course, when numbers go up, we need to watch it more carefully, but we need more data
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to know if there is actually a problem in the health care system or a problem with more people dying from the disease. >> the lancet medical journal made it clear and said there was no disputing that physical distancing and wearing a mask are the two most helpful things. some are in a political debate necessary. any doubt of the science? >> there is no doubt at all that this is something we should all be doing. i think that lancet paper helps further the evidence behind it. it's especially important for people to take these measures now as states are beginning to reopen in different ways around the country. these are all things we can do even with reopening happening. even a little bit of distance, six feet of distance, is enough to demonstrably, to substantially lower your risk of getting the infection or giving that infection to others. same with the mask. the main purpose of the mask is to keep you from giving it to
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someone else, even if you don't feel sick, you may have the virus and we don't know it, and so it's protection for you as well. there are other countries having much better success than even the u.s. in controlling the virus. they're using masks and they're physically distancing. >> you mentioned earlier a very important point, that we should look at rate of hospitalizations, rate of infection, not just the case count. so i want to go through this, i want to put the california cases in the past several days and it's moving up. south carolina cases over the past 14 days, the red line trending up a little bit. so you are absolutely right to tell us don't focus just on these numbers. but in terms of lag time, what is it you look for? a state reopens, then it accelerates the reopening, more people are back to work. two weeks, three weeks, a month or two? what will it take for us to be able to say this was the impact of america's reopening on covid-19 and whether or not it's manageable. >> i think it's probably going to be a few weeks.
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you might see the first patients -- let's say a change is made on a sunday and that change led to a new case in some way. you might see that new case five or six days later start to get symptoms, and if they're sick enough to be in a hospital, it might be another three, four, five days before they're hospitalized, so it could take time from that change for that to happen. but small numbers of cases are hard to see in the overall background noise of what's going on. so to really see a big change, i think it probably will be weeks before we really notice a big change in numbers following a reopening change. >> i just want to tell our viewers what they're seeing. the president and the first lady on the right of your screen are visiting the st. paul ii national shrine in d.c. before i let you go, dr. anthony fauci says he hasn't met with the president in two weeks.
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curfew in new york city will begin earlier today. firms there are hoping it will stop the widespread looting. we're now told about 700 people were arrested, most of them in manhattan. at least one police officer sergeant was struck in the hit-and-run. the mayor, bill de blasio, responding to the violence just in the last hour. >> a police officer was hit by a car yesterday and appears to be quite purposeful. that's unacceptable. police officers shot at, unacceptable. that does not move us forward. anyone who does that is a criminal, not a protester. an attack on a police officer is an attack on all of us. >> tough words from the mayor there, shimon. >> it is tough, john. we had this curfew, right, they set up for 11:00 yesterday, but most of the violence, all of the
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looting really started hours before. so you have to ask yourselves why do they set the curfew to 11:00 p.m. it seemed a little too late. today, of course, the mayor coming out saying we're going to now move it earlier to 8:00. the looting, i was out there. the looting started around 7:00. you have to wonder if the looters knew that this curfew was coming so they needed to hit hours before. of course the big question on everyone's mind is how does this stop? here is the mayor talking about this. >> the vs. majority are doing their job because they have been trained incessantly to act with restraint. the national guard, a member of the guard called up from any part of this state doesn't have that particular training, doesn't know our environment, but is carrying a loaded weapon. that is a bad scenario. i want to just put down the
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marker. the national guard should not be brought here. >> there are a lot of police officers here that were on the streets last night here, john. it's not that they were overwhelmed, but it was just pure chaos all over the city. and so that's a lot of what we saw last night. >> governor just moments ago, andrew cuomo, outraged by what happened. we'll see what happens with the earlier implementation of the curfew. why louisville's mayor fired the police chief after a business owner was fatally shot. grubhub's gonna reward you for that with a $5 off perk. (doorbell rings) - [crowd] grubhub! (fireworks exploding)
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that shooting now under both state and federal investigation. hello to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm john king. president trump today taking what you might call a bit of a victory lap visiting a religious shrine a day after doing this, posing with a bible in front of a church. after peaceful protesters being pushed back with tear gas and flash bangs, being moved away from the president's doorstep so he could act out. i spoke to the archdiocese moments ago. >> if the president had come to pray, if the president had come to offer words of consolation to give people hope for a better day in this country, he would have been welcomed. >> all t
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