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a short time ago president trump visiting the shrine of papua john paul ii in an effort to appeal to christian conservatives. less than 24 hours after he offended multiple religious leaders when he displayed a baseball for this photo op in order to stand at this historic spot from st. john's episcopal church. clearing the streets by lafayette park of peaceful protesters. police officers and members of the national guard firing tear gas and rubber bullets on hundreds of people there. protests in several cities escalating as police officers in st. louis and las vegas were shot. one officer in new york was
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seriously hurt by a hit-and-run driver. new york police arresting more than 700 people after storefronts were looted, bricks and bottles thrown by people as you can see through windows there. today the mayor is under fire for permitting an 11:00 p.m. curfew, too late, his critics say. bryn is in new york. the president and the new york governor both criticized the city's response to the violence overnight. tell us what we're hearing from officials today. >> reporter: yeah, i mean, there's a lot of criticism right now, brianna, against the mayor and the city after seeing what broke out here. it was described as just chaos. and the mayor did have a news conference this morning essentially saying that there were small groups of people committing the looting across the city that were part of the bigger protests. while they were bigger peaceful protests, i can tell you for sure walking around this city, seeing these areas, it's not
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possible to have just a small group of people committing these violent acts because there have been so many locations hit. you have harold's square flagship store broken into despite being bored up, 5th avenue, soho, as we saw the night before. that's what the mayor is criticizing harshly about. i want you to hear from the governor who gave a news conference and addressed this after the mayor talked this morning. >> look at the videos. it was a disgrace. i believe that. i believe the mayor underestimates the scope of the problem. i think he underestimates the duration of the problem. and i don't think they used enough police to address the situation. because it's inarguable, but it
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was not addressed last night, right? facts, okay? >> reporter: the governor essentially saying this is a force that is the biggest one in the country. there are 35,000 officers at this city's disposal. they need to use them and create order in this city. this can't go on another night. he said he's offered up the national guard to help nypd, but the mayor said today he does not want that offer. he does not want to bring in the national guard at this point. and i got to say, brianna, i've been talking to a number of my sources, police who've been a part of these protests, even people higher than them and they say they really do need the support of city hall. they are exhausted and trying to control the city. they feel like they are outnumbered and they're hoping that they get that support soon. but as far as that curfew, it was 11:00. now it's 8:00. even these officers i've talked to say these people aren't going to listen to the curfew. it doesn't matter what time it is, it's not going to make a difference. let's hope there is some change
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tonight, brianna. >> the world will be watching. brynn gingras, thank you so much in new york. back to washington where protesters were tear gassed so that the president could have a photo op. police say they made 300 arrests. cnn white house correspondent boris sanchez is in lafayette park. this is the site of the protest. there are now barriers that were put up there last night, boris. tell us what's going on. >> reporter: hey, brianna, very different scene than even just a few hours ago. this intersection right outside lafayette park just at the doorstep of the white house was relatively empty just a few hours ago. police have actually shut down traffic. they weren't even allowing protesters on the street. now obviously they've taken to the white house. if you look over to our left, there's now a barrier that was put up overnight about an eight-foot tall fence to keep protesters, demonstrators outside of lafayette park. really what we watched last night about a half hour before that 7:00 p.m. curfew that was
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put into place by d.c.'s mayor, law enforcement violently pushed the protesters out of here, effectively so that president trump could come to st. john's e episcopal church. every president since james madison has attended services here. president trump using the occasion to hold up a bible. sources tell us the president has been concerned about his support among evangelicals and catholics in response to his response to the coronavirus pandemic. we saw the president go to the st. john paul ii national shrine, trying to court supporters even as there is massive unrest across the country, brianna. >> boris, thank you for showing us the scene there. the president is waging another twitter war now against how governors and mayors are handling protests in their cities and states. he says they should be activating the national guard and deploying them. with me now, cnn chief political
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analyst gloria gloria and tim natalie. what is the president trying to accomplish here? >> i think what the president is doing is what he's done his entire presidency which is reach out to his base rather than trying to unite the entire country country. in doing that and staging in sophomoric stunt that he did last night by walking outside brandishing the bible and then walking back, what he did was call for law and order. today we heard him tweet about the silent majority. tim knows more about this than i do, but that certainly sounds nixonian to me, going back to the '60s and '70s and trying to recreate that moment for himself without realizing that the country has moved beyond the '60s and the '70s. it's a very different country right now.
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but all of this, brianna, in the service of himself, in the service of what he believes will help his political fortune and creating one of the lowest moments in american political history last night. >> it is possible -- >> or presidential history i should say. >> which is tim's forte. so tim, let's talk about when you see how this fits into how other presidents have handled protests. >> well, i think it's helpful at such a difficult, dramatic moment to contrast the behavior of our president yesterday with what another president did. the day after martin luther king jr. was killed, and the day after the first four nights of riots took place in washington, d.c., lyndon johnson wrote a letter to the two leaders in the
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house, speaker mccormick, a democrat, and gerald ford, the house minority leader. and he said at a moment like this, all good men should ask themselves what more can i do to achieve brotherhood and quality among all americans? a few days later, the house passed the senate open housing bill, the civil rights bill of 1968. we talk about bipartisanship in this country and we often misunderstand what that means. it doesn't mean you have an ideological bridge. it's they share basic principles. in 1968, you had a congress and a president who understood there was a deep problem in american society and that the disorder couldn't be solved by cracking down and restoring order. that the disorder was a reflection of a virus, a
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political virus, racism. that's missing now. and the president yesterday decided that the way to calm the waters was to show dominance ovin lafayette park. it was a stunt that reflects his understanding of our political moment. his understanding that he has a party behind him that does not recognize that there are structural inequalities, that the covid-19 virus hit harder certain neighborhoods because of legacies. no. what he saw was that he could get the support of people and possibly be re-elected simply by pretending he's a dictator. that's the moment we're in. that's what makes him different his predecessors in the modern era. >> gloria, to that point, when you think there were things that he, i guess, utilized over the last day to create this kind of
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aura of a dictatorship, not yet at the same time, you know, this is a country that is deeply entrenched as not a dictatorship. so he can create this look on television in a moment and he seems to push the envelope on this every day. but even with people around him, either being complicit or silent in his tactics, the machine of the country doesn't really work in this way. and i think in terms of, you know, a president's only in power for eight years. >> right. well, the governors as you know, are pushing back. the governors are saying we don't want your federal troops. we can handle this on our own, thank you very much. and the president cannot force them on the governors. and the cameras are rolling, brianna. we saw what happened in
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lafayette park last night. we saw peaceful protesters being gassed so the president could take a stroll. and so he could pose for the cameras because he was apparently upset according to our reporting that there was -- that he had been spirited away to the bunker the other night because of the demonstrates in lafayette park. he didn't like that imagery, so he had to create the strongman image of himself, marching across the park, no masks in the middle of a pandemic, of course, and then just holding up that bible rather than reading from it, rather than quoting scripture, rather than praying. but just holding it up as of to send some kind of signal maybe to his evangelical supporters, i'm with you. everything this president does
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have a meaning insofar as his own political fortune come november. it is about uniting his base behind him. >> and it is a symbol. we know he's not well-versed in the bible. we've seen that in the past when he's addressed religious crowds and talked about the bible. so just to be clear on that. gloria, thank you so much. tim, thank you. we're learning that there was deep concern and discomfort among some at the pentagon turnover president's threat to use the military as his own personal police force against protesters. and the virginia governor chose to not send his state's national guard groups to counter protesters in d.c. plus, the family of george floyd is told to expect more charges soon against the other three officers involved in his death. this is my body of proof. proof i can fight moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis.
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reports which we've seen in other cases as well, omar. >> reporter: that's right, brianna. it's going to play a major role how the actions in this case are viewed. we're at the intersection where george floyd's final moments played out eight days ago now. as you may be able to hear, the mood is more a celebration of life as officials are trying to piece together how that life was lost. two autopsies concluding what happened to george floyd was a homicide. but when you look at the independent autopsy commissioned by the family, that one attributes the death to asphyxia. but when you look at the han pin medical examiner's autopsy report, that one is attributing it to heart failure. there was fentanyl and meth that was in the system, but it did not say how much was in floyd's system and whether that had a direct impact on his death. we talk about the effects that it could have moving forward.
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it really would affect how they look at the criminality and thea taken either for the officer or former officer already charged in this, officer derek chauvin. but then also the three that have not faced charges just yet. those decisions are still pending. we heard from the minnesota attorney general who is heading this investigation and says that while they are still trying to get all the pieces together to conduct as thorough an investigation as possible, he said that when we are ready, and that won't be long from now, we plan on taking the proper and deliberate action. until that's at any point, we're likely to continue seeing protests, protests that here in minneapolis have become increasingly peaceful over the course of the past few days, especially last night into today. it was yesterday afternoon the family of george floyd came, again, to this exact location. terrence floyd, the brother, says he's seen the images of violence and looting and says if he's doing it, why are other people? we have to do this another way. the memorial on thursday,
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brianna, and funeral proceedings early next week. >> that was a beautiful moment yesterday with terrence floyd. omar, thank you for your report from minneapolis. just in, arrest warrants have been issued for six atlanta police officers accused of using excessive force while arresting two college students. this was an encounter that was caught on police body cam and i want to warn you, this may be disturbing to you. it was disturbing to me. tannia pilgrim and messiah young, a student at morehouse college were tased and violently yanked from their car by several atlanta police officers saturday night during the sizzle unrest. the couple said they were going to get food when they got caught up in traffic from protests. they were trying to leave the downtown area when the citywide curfew kicked in. two of the officers have already been fired. cnn's dianne gallagher is following this developing story. she has more on the charges. this was very quick.
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tell us about these charges, diane. >> reporter: it was quick, but i'm going to tell you, we were in the room with tannia pilgrim as the charges were announced. messiah young had a cast on his arm. he needed 24 stitches and the video they played, both of them had to get up and leave because it was too difficult to watch. it was too hard for me to watch. those six atlanta police officers, i'm going to read their names to you right now, lonnie hood, willie soles, i'very streeter, mark gad mer, and rome clawed. the district attorney is charging them with various counts of assault and battery. he looked at things like after the fact they claim a gun had been pulled on the officers. but it's all caught on camera. police body camera and a local news station, there's no mention of a gun whatsoever. no gun was recovered. listen to what messiah young had
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to say after how he feels about these announcements. >> i'm happy they're finally being held accountable and all i can say is i hope every police officer who thinks it's okay to drag someone, beat someone, do all this stuff because they're cops, i hope they're all going to be held accountable as well. >> i feel a little safer now that these monsters are off the street and no longer able to terrorize anyone else. >> reporter: and that was tannia pilgrim at the beginning. the police officers have until friday at the end of the day, brianna, to turn themselves in. >> diane, thank you so much for bringing their words to us. president trump wants to use the military to quell protests across the country, but what are the long-term consequences this extraordinary move cow on the military's relationship with communities of color and with
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struggle to deal with protests, looting, and violence, president trump is throning use the military as his own personal police force. he is promising to invoke an archaic law, the insurrection act if city and state leaders don't restore order. if you're not familiar with this more than 200-year-old act, it's been rarely been used. it was invoked in 1992 to quell the riots after four white police officers were acquitted in the beating of rodney king. before that- used in the 1950s to enforce desegregation and in the '60s to address riots in detroit. colonel lay ten is a retired air force colonel. colonel, the u.s. commander in chief is threatening to use the u.s. military against americans.
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you know, i know -- i've been looking on social media, i've been monitoring the conversation. there are a lot of people who don't see really what a big deal that is. they think it's just a step beyond using police officers, but it's not. so explain this to us. >> sure, brianna. the big thing here is using the military to quell a domestic insurrection or domestic disturbance is really a grave step. law enforcement agencies, police agencies are designed to take care of issues like that, unless they are overwhelmed and then can't handle the types of things that are thrown at them, whether it's from a riot or natural disaster or something like this. so when you invoke something like the insurrection act, it's not putting people in from the military into the harm's way the way that it would be in a
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foreign country. but what it is actually doing is it is using these people who are often not trained in the same kind of law enforcement techniques that domestic police agencies are trained in and putting them right in the middle of something like this. the big deal is that it can pit the american military against our own population, and that is something that we don't want to see and most military members wouldn't want to see either. >> it's not pitting the military against the population at large, right? it's pitting it against a group that is predominantly african-american, that is predominantly not fans of president trump. these are certainly not people that he would consider to be political allies and in his tent of support. what is the effect of that? >> so the big problem there if the military is perceived to be a part of one political side versus another, it's going to
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cause other to see that the military has taken sides politically, and that is a big problem. if the military is used against minority communities like african-american communities, other communities of color, then it's going to not only have a really bad impact on community relations with that particular community, but it's also going to cut the path of recruitment for potential military recruits from that community into the u.s. military. what that does to the u.s. military is it actually takes a major talent pool away from the military and makes the military far less effective than it currently is, makes it far less able to handle the kind of foreign military situations that it is built for, and that is a really significant issue. >> you believe that this could erode the civilian military bond the country has built over the past four decades. explain that to us. >> so the military bond,
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military civilian bond is something that's very, very special. people who grew up during the vietnam era remember when the military was not held in as high regard as it is today. the military has a special place in american society and in american culture. what's interesting about the civil/military relationship in the united states is that relationship is based on a voluntary force, a democratic system that takes people who want to join the military and allows them, if they so choose, to make a career out of that. the military is respected because of how it has behaved, how it has professionalized itself, and how it is able to interact with all elements of society. if that disappears, then what we're going to end up with is a military that really doesn't have the kind of civilian support that it really needs to have in order to be effective, and it would go back to the
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situation in the 1960s where the military was not an al all-volunteer force, and that is something we don't want to see ever again. >> you know, one of the things is, the military, right, members of the military, they are there to serve their country. they serve on the orders of the commander in chief. many of them hold personal and disparate political views, but it is in their code that they do not -- that's not something they are public about. what does this do to people in the armed forces -- i know on social media traffic there are people who think that the military is monolithic. it's not. what does this do to members of the military being forced to carry out very divisive
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policies? >> well, i think, brianna, the potential is that this could be something that could divide the military just like the military was divided in the run-up to the american civil war in the 1860s. that is something we really don't want to see. you're right, the american military contains people of every political stripe, every ethnic group. they bring a whole bunch of diverse opinions and different ways of doing things into the military. and the military is able to provide services to forge a unique bond between people from different backgrounds. if we pit them against each other, that's going to be a major problem, something that can destroy the bonds of cohesion that have made the military such a good force. and it plays into the hands of of our rivals, and that's not what we want to see from the united states' viewpoint. >> colonel, thank you so much.
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the president making another photo op stop at a religious site today. he and the first lady visited the st. john paul ii national shrine in washington this morning. the archbishop of washington saying it's baffling that the shrine is being egregiously misused and manipulated in a fashion that violates our religious principles. a follow-up to the scene that played out yesterday where the president marched from the white house to st. john's emispiscopa church when they were driven back by tear gas, rubber bullets and blunt force at the hands of police and military police. the president then posed in front of the church and held up a bible for a photo op, a baseball, he said. asked if it was his bible, he
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said it's "a" bible. this from the bishop of that very church. >> this was a charade that in some ways was meant to bolster a message that does nothing to calm the soul and to reassure the nation that we can recover from this moment, which what we need from a president. >> diane butler bass joins us now. she is an author and historian of christianity. diana, thank you for joining us. tell us what you make of the president using kind of appropriating these places and the bible for himself during these crises. >> well, in certain ways, it's not unusual at all for a president to appear in front of a church or another religious building. but as the bishop of washington so rightly pointed out, that is
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usually the background towards a speech about unity or the brotherhood or sisterhood of the american people. what happened yesterday was not that. the president used is made episcopal church as a pack drop for a message which is, indeed, at odds with both the church he was standing in front of and the bible he was holding up. >> you have a bit of a personal connection. a friend of your daughter's was there outside of the white house and she told you about her experience. what did she tell you? >> i was actually at another church. i thought that yesterday was so upsetting, that i walked around the corner to the church in my neighborhood. i was sitting in the garden praying when all this came on. my daughter said, did you see what happened at st. john's? and i said, no. i was not watching television.
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and she said, well, a friend of hers was at this protest, a friend who had been holding up a black lives matter sign. and just all of a sudden the national guard appeared from nowhere and they were gassed and sent down the street. and so we heard about it directly from someone who was there, and then, of course, the president walked across from the white house and stood in front of the church, didn't even say anything, simply held up the bible and seemed to want to use that to rally people to his law and order cause. >> diana butler bass, thank you so much for joining us. we really need the perspective. thank you. looters, protesters, and police clashing on new york city streets last night, including one officer who was run over in a hit-and-run. plus, the most comprehensive data to date that shows masks and social distancing help
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we're going to keep an eye on this. you see the peaceful protesters. they're walking. they have signs. they're near one police plaza, the headquarters for the police in new york city for the nypd. so we'll be keeping an eye on this and we'll revisit this as we see developments there. amid all of the scenes of unrest and chaos as protests have erupted across the country in the wake of death of george floyd have been these touching moments between law enforcement and protesters. in fort worth, texas, at the end of a tense confrontation between police and protesters, there was this. instead of arresting the demonstrators for breaking curfew, the fort worth police chief kneeled and prayed with protesters. >> i think it's a good step. i hope it -- i hope it was meaningful. i hope that they -- the people here saw our hearts. we certainly saw their hearts and that they were hurting.
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>> cnn's tom foreman has been keeping an eye on these moments of hope and unity that are playing out across the country. >> reporter: just minutes ar the president promised a crackdown denver's police of chief was on the move with protesters in body and spirit. >> working together is the only way we can get through this. >> reporter: police in minnesota stopping traffic of protesters, copping kneeling with them in georgia, too, and in indiana, this was the scene outside the governor's mansion. >> i'm not here to disturb the community. >> reporter: it goes both ways. that is a target store in new york and those are not police but protesters protecting it. standing up to potential looters and vandals telling them to go away and that is happening in communities all across the land. >> people work too hard, too hard! you ain't going to do it no front of me.
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>> don't push the tape. stop, stop! >> reporter: amid images of destructions these moments of people in congruously fighting to keep the peace captivating's in d.c., a hooded man breaking up pavement, protesters rush him. in minutes strip a away his mask and take him to police. telling them, take him. he's yours. on it goes, one community after another many finding ways to lower their guard, occupy common ground and embrace the moment. >> what we had tonight was a peaceful protest. and us joining them in a symbolic way to kind of recognize what had happened in the least we can do. >> reporter: in some cases even comforting each other. >> no justice, no peace! >> i'm hurt same way you hurt. like you hurt. like everybody's out here hurts.
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>> reporter: these quiet acts of kindness and pleas are peace easily lost amid all the noise but are occurring everywhere. giving hope to those looking for someone to lean on amid the fear and fury. ♪ we all need somebody to lean on ♪ >> reporter: tom foreman, cnn, that th bethesda, maryland. i certainly needed that. breaking news. keeping an eye here on these live pictures. so this is coming to us, this is a peaceful gathering in lower manhattan. this is outside of one police plaza. police headquarters there in new york city for the nypd, and you're seeing people walking by, carrying signs. it appears most of the people we're seeing, not that. aa -- gentleman, are wearin masks. this after a very, very tough night in new york city. what are we seeing here?
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this is los angeles on the left. police headquarters there. you're seeing another gathering, peaceful protesters there on the west coast. we will be keeping an eye on these pictures of peaceful protests from coast to coast. we'll take a quick break and be right back. when managing diabetes you can't always stop for a fingerstick. with the freestyle libre 14 day system, a continuous glucose monitor, you don't have to. with a painless, one-second scan you can check your glucose with a smart phone or reader so you can stay in the moment. no matter where you are or what you're doing. ask your doctor for a prescription for the freestyle libre 14 day system. you can do it without fingersticks. learn more at freestylelibre.us. dropping to near record lows, my team at newday usa is helping more veterans refinance than ever.
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let's head back now to some live pictures that we're seeing in new york there. on the right side's your screen, los angeles. on the left side of your screen, peaceful protesters gathering at police headquarters in both of these cities. cnn's reporter joining me on the phone from new york. tell me about the protests we're seeing in new york. >> reporter: it is peaceful. these protests remarking that the police are allowing them to proceed. you see protesters on the street. police are closing traffic off. there are people in cars honking in support and people all around coming out of their apartments offering support. now there are thousands. they are marching through lower
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manhattan and to it looks north, heading uptown. you see the signs. you hear the chants "no justice, no peace." and it's peaceful. they're going to allow this to pursue, the police. they're on the outskirts. on the outside of these prote proteste protesters. they're in the front, in the back but allowing them to proceed through the streets. it's a very large protest that you can see and thousands of people cheering. there are signs, black lives matter, justice for george floyd. all kinds of people down here, black people, white people, a mix of all kinds really coming together and wanting action, wanting change.
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these are the people that the mayor says they want to allow the peaceful demonstrators to come out, voice their anger and opinion and they're going to allow it. what we see late at night, as we did last night, is much different than what we're seeing here. . >> that's right. and can you tell us what -- tell us what people are chanting? i was going to comment on, as we were sort of people-watching of this protest with people uk waing by, like you said, shimon, it is a very diverse crowd, and i think we're seeing someone walk away who must be only 14 or 15 years old, it looks like. tell us what you're hearing the crowds saying? >> reporter: black lives matter. no justice, no peace. chanting, "black lives
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