you know, was a reminder of how long this journey has been. but i do think it can be different now, because he was not running. he was not armed. there was no excuse. you couldn't say, well, it was a split-second decision, you know, what can a cop do? a cop has to defend himself. you know, in that moment, if he hadn't talked back, if he hadn't fought back. there is nothing we can tell our children that would have saved that man's life. we have to believe as black people that we can sprinkle a little bit of dust on our children called the talk. that's a little fairy dust we put on top of our children. don't talk back. say "yes, sir," say "no, ma'am," keep your hands in sight, you know, don't have any drugs on you, you know. and we believe by putting this fairy dust on our children called the talk, they can then go out there and be protected. there is not one thing that we can tell our children that would stop a police officer from doing that. one minute, two minute, three minutes, four minutes, five minutes, six minutes, seven minutes, eight minutes.

and so, we are broken as a community. everybody i know who's african-american is so fragile right now. but there are 20, 30, 40, 50 million white americans that are also flattened by this, because they can't explain it. and they can't excuse it. and they know, you don't get to this kind of outcome with the other cops standing around, unless it's much, much worse than they thought. so, i do think that change is possible. i do think we can get together this time on a bipartisan basis and fix some of these laws. but you know, this is -- i apologize, but this is an incredibly emotional moment, because if this is okay, if they come back and say this is okay, that we can be killed in this way -- this is a lynching in broad daylight with the cell phones out and the body cameras there and the whole world looking at it. if this is okay, then what are we supposed to do? what are we supposed to do? and that's what's at stake

today. that's what's at stake today. >> no apology necessary, my friend. very poignant. very important at this moment. what could be a crossroads day. we just heard from the family there. we'll hear from the minnesota attorney general on potential charges. van jones, appreciate your help and insights. our coverage continues with brianna keilar right now. john, thank you. i am brianna keel year ailar an welcome viewers here in the united states and around the world. we are picking up with the breaking news in the investigation into the death of george floyd. the minnesota attorney general's office has made a decision about the other officers involved in his death. he will be making that announcement soon, and we are going to bring that to you. the officers can be seen on that crucial piece of video of floyd's arrest. i must warn you, it is very graphic. it's also important to see what their involvement was here. three officers who have since been fired. they are seen standing. derek chauvin, the former

officer who has already been charged with third-degree murder. they do not intervene as floyd pleads for his life, for minutes. in minneapolis moments ago, the family of george floyd and attorney ben crump visited the site where floyd was killed. this is a site that has become the epicenter for these nine days of nationwide demonstrations. we're beginning to see protesters again taking to the streets. officials are hoping the demonstrations will continue to trend toward what happened last night, although unprecedented curfews were defied in many cities. they were done so peacefully. the family's attorney, ben crump, said he expected the three other officers to be charged before george floyd's first public memorial, which is tomorrow in minneapolis. let's go to josh campbell, our cnn security correspondent, who has much more on this expected announcement, and also cnn's omar jimenez, who is on site in minneapolis where members of the floyd family just wrapped up speaking. josh, you bring us up to speed

with what we could be expecting here with the other officers. >> reporter: yeah, breanna, a major development today in this investigation involving the officers that were seen on those videos after this encounter between police and george floyd. now, we know that the investigation was under way, learning today from law enforcement sources that the attorney general's office has reviewed all of the evidence and has come to a decision regarding whether there will be additional charges. and we're expecting that here in this room where we are in st. paul, later this afternoon, from the attorney general here in minnesota. now, we know that this investigation started out under the auspices of the county in minneapolis. and one of those officers, derek chauvin, was arrested and charged with third-degree murder. we were waiting to see what would happen with the other three officers that were on that video. in that time, the investigation was actually transferred from the county to the state attorney general's office. and in talking to law enforcement sources, they tell me that they have been reviewing all the evidence, they have been

looking very methodically and slowly. one person telling me, they only get one shot to do this right. they want to make sure that everything they compile holds up in court. we're told that that review is now complete and they are prepared to announce a decision. now, our source is not telling us what that decision is at this point. again, we expect that to come this afternoon. but breanna, this comes as this community, the minneapolis/st. paul area and indeed, the entire country has been on edge following this incident. we saw protests, most of them peacefully -- overwhelmingly, most of them peacefully, across the country, but also some that obviously turned violent. we will see what this announcement is this afternoon and how that impacts folks around the country, brianna. >> all right, josh, thank you. and omar, the family has been very clear, this isn't just about one officer. and they want to see speed here when it comes to the possibility of charging these other officers. >> reporter: well, of course. and josh campbell's reporting, saying that a decision has been made in regards to these

officers. the people here on the ground at this site are anxious to see what that decision is going to be, because when it comes to the justice that they are asking for, that they are pushing for in this, they don't want just officer chauvin to see these charges. they want all four of them not just to be charged, but to be convicted as well. now, a few moments ago, we had the family attorney along with some of george floyd's family here at this site where just a little over a week ago george floyd took his final breaths, as we saw play out on that now-infamous cell phone video. and benjamin crump, the floyd family attorney, spoke to people here, supporters in some cases, lots of media, but also people that were offering strength to this family in what has been an incredibly difficult time, not just here in minneapolis, but especially for this family. here's a little bit of what was said. >> we are demanding justice. we expect all of the police

officers to be arrested before we have the memorial here in minneapolis, minnesota, tomorrow. >> i'm here reunited with my family, trying to get justice for my father. and no man or woman should be without their father. and we want justice for what's going on right now. >> reporter: and one of the big themes of the speech there, and speaking to everyone there in the exact spot where george floyd took his final breaths simply came down to the fact that he said, we're america, and that means black people, too. and that seems to be the rallying cry that we have seen in communities across this country, wanting to be treated fairly, wanting to feel like they get the justice they deserve in cases where police are involved and where people either get killed or severely injured. >> omar, thank you so much, to josh as well. right now we're awaiting the

minnesota attorney general's announcement. areva martin is our cnn legal analyst and a civil rights attorney. and laura coates is cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor. i just wonder what both of you are kind of looking here for. what are you expecting? what kind of charges? let me say to you first, laura, what kind of charges do you think we could see for these three other officers? >> well, they're going to be under the umbrella, likely, of a accomplice sort of liability, which says if you are aiding or conspiring with or you're participating in the commission of a crime, look, you're held to the same level of culpability as the person who was the one to fire the shot, the one to put the knee on the person's neck. and if you engage actively and had your body on and compressing his body as well, contributing to that asphyxiation, you would be held liable. and the only really way to get away from that accomplice liability, breanna, and i know areva can talk to this as well, is if you try to prevent the commission of the crime in some way, if you actively seek out a way to stop it. and as we see here, the rallying

cries across minneapolis and across the globe has been because of those failure of those individuals to either stop it and heed the begging of mr. george floyd and the community members around him. >> areva, what do you think? >> yeah, i agree with laura. and i think the family attorney is right for calling for the arrest and charging of these officers. and i think one thing is interesting, brianna, the attorney general just got this case on sunday, and here we are on wednesday and they are ready to make an announcement about charges. and i think that goes back to some of the underlying issues that we see played out in these cases, and that's the distrust of local law enforcement. we heard the district attorney initially come out some days ago and say it was going to take so much time for them to conduct an investigation before they could make a decision about charging these other officers, yet, the attorney general gets the case on sunday, and here we are three, four days later, and he's

ready, ellison, attorney general keith ellison, to make an announcement. and that just undercuts any argument that when you have videotape like the videotape in this case, you have eyewitness accounts like the eyewitness accounts in this case, that you need this prolonged period of time to get to an arrest. we're just talking about probable cause for an arrest. we're not talking about conducting the full trial or getting a conviction. so i'm haepg ppy to see that attorney general ellison has the case, that he acted quickly and that he's going to provide information to the family and to the american people that have been waiting for these other officers to be charged. >> i think there is a question about -- so, this accomplice liability, laura, that you're talking about, i mean, it's sort of like -- isn't it just part of the american value or even just the human values that you step in if you see something wrong? you don't just wash your hands of it. i know there are a lot of people who, you know, sort of it defies

what you might expect. i know a lot of people do that sometimes. but in the standards of the minneapolis police department, it sort of speaks to this, right? so, if that's actually something that these police officers, a code that they're supposed to adhere to, does that play into this at all when you're talking about what is reasonably expected of these officers to do in this situation? >> it absolutely does. it's not only a code that is silently supposed to be enforced, particularly among people who have asked to be public servants, who have asked to be in this role. you're not assigned the role of a police officer. you're not assigned the role of a journalist. you're not assigned the role of a doctor or a grocery store clerk. you actually are taking on these roles in your lives. and so, the idea that somebody was a public servant, who has an elevated level of duty and obligation, one would think, allegiance to the community than the everyday person and that everyday people were doing the right thing, begging them to intervene and they did not, it's

more than just that unspoken code. it actually is in the minneapolis police department manual. it was written in, in response to the shooting death of jamar clark, also from minneapolis, where they actually have a duty to act or intervene if they see a fellow officer engaging in behavior that is excessive force. now, having it in the police manual as opposed to having it a legislatively codified law in the world and in minnesota is very different. and what will factor in about the duty to intervene, what they should have done, it factored in most certainly into the chief of police's decision to immediately fire them. now, how it will play into a prosecution may be different. >> areva, how essential is it not just here in the case of george floyd, but in cases going forward, that these officers are held to account so that other officers feel that, look, at least they can sort of hang

their head on, i have to interve intervene, right? because look, the standard has been set that i am responsible and i can't just wash my hands of this. >> oh, absolutely. we should have an expectation around this country that any police officer who takes on the responsibility to protect and serve does just that. and when they see fellow officers engage in the kind of misconduct that we saw with respect to george floyd, we should be able to as the public expect those officers not only to intervene but to then engage in life-saving procedures to help someone like mr. floyd. beyond watching the cavalier attitude that these officers had as they watched mr. floyd cry for his life, you know, cry out that he couldn't breathe, cry for his own mother -- once they saw that he had no pulse, that his body went limp, not -- neither of those officers involved gave him cpr, did any life-saving techniques that could have prevented his senseless death.

we saw in laquan mcdonald in chicago, in that case, officers covered up what the other officers, the shooting officer had done. so, we've seen cases where officers not only stand around and do nothing, we've actually seen them go further where they actually engage in this conduct by lying, by covering up, by entering false information into police reports. so, yes, we need to send a very clear message that if you are engaged in the shooting, you will be held accountable, and if you are in the vicinity, you will also be held accountable. >> such a good point you bring up, areva. i'm so glad you did there, about the life-saving measures. but it's countless, how many videos we've watched where police wait for minutes, minutes that could have saved the life of someone, and they wait for paramedics, even though it's something they can take into their own hands. areva, laura, thank you to both of you. really appreciate it. so, we're waiting right now for this announcement from prosecutors in minneapolis. this is an extraordinary moment.

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all right, this is what we're awaiting right now, the announcement on the decision of charges in the death of george floyd in minneapolis.

so, we are waiting for that this moment. we're expecting this to have to do with the three other police officers who were standing by, two who helped restrained george floyd, one who stood by and did nothing as derek chauvin was there with his knee in george floyd's neck for over eight minutes until he died. in the meantime, sources telling cnn defense secretary mark esper is on shaky ground with the white house after he attempted to distance himself from the president's much-criticized photo op monday at st. john's episcopal church. secretary esper telling reporters he was unaware of the president's plans and that he believed they were going outside to look at the damage in lafayette park and to thank members of the national guard who had been called in. instead, though, he ended up being part of that all-white trump administration lineup that took part in a photo op in front of st. john's episcopal church,

very clearly there staging and posing for a photo. we saw them do that, it seemed very deliberate, as one would do when they're posing for a photo. esper also distanced himself from the president's threat to invoke the insurrection act and deploy troops to quell protests around the country. >> the option to use active-duty forces if a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. we are not in one of those situations now. i do not support invoking the insurrection act. >> cnn's kaitlan collins is at the white house. she joins me now. and kaitlan, i wonder what the reaction is to esper said. i suspect the white house didn't necessarily know he was going to say this? >> reporter: no, they did not. and so far, the reaction inside the west wing has not been great to those comments. they were not aware that he was going to go and contradict the president on, of course, whether

or not active-duty u.s. military troops should be deployed throughout the nation, something that the president had just said days ago in the rose garden before they went over to st. john's church that he believed that they should. and now esper is saying that he doesn't agree with that. of course, there had been a lot of discussion behind the scenes as the president was going to make that announcement over whether or not they should threaten to invoke the insurrection act, which the president did. you saw attorney general bill barr privately had disagreed with that. and esper is now saying he doesn't agree with it either, even though we know that about 1,600 of those active-duty troops are now in the washington area. and so, really, the question is what is going to happen to the defense secretary? his future is not clear at this point because he had already been on thin ice with the president, who had been venting about him in recent weeks, including at a recent trip to camp david. the national security adviser had also been talking about the fact that often his message was contradicting what the white house was trying to say. and now you have him going out and saying that he doesn't

believe these active-duty troops should be out in the united states. he says where we are right now doesn't warrant that. but also, he's coming under fire for accompanying the president to that photo op at st. john's church outside the white house. first he told nbc news last night he was not aware of the destination. he said he didn't know where they were going. today he said he did know that they were going out but he thought they were going to be speaking with the national guard troops, and he said he wasn't aware that photos were going to be taken in the way that they were, where the president posed not only with the bible but also with his chief of staff, mark meadows, the defense secretary, of course, as well, in addition to several other officials. and so, you are seeing him put a lot of distance in between what the president chose to do. we should note, a move the president himself is defending today in an interview. and esper is trying to put some space in between that. and where that ends up esper himself, we do not know, though after those comments, he went to the white house for a meeting in addition with the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff.

>> it is so interesting, kaitlan, that i suppose nobody in the white house is saying that they're looking at what esper has said and maybe actually reassessing their position on the insurrection act or the actions that have been taken. instead, it's looking at esper and being frustrated that there appears to be daylight between him and the president. >> reporter: yeah, because the president had already been complaining about him. he had already been seen as on shaky footing. then people did not think that that press conference really helped secure his relationship with the president. but it doesn't seem to be that the president is taking that, you know, hearing what he's saying about u.s. troops being deployed. the president still feels that that is very much something that should happen, and other officials have cautioned against it for now. >> yeah, and many experts as well. kaitlan collins, thank you so much. i'm going to be speaking with a retired four-star general about this who says that esper needs to resign. plus, we are awaiting an

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back now to our breaking news. we're told that the minnesota attorney general, keith ellison, is going to be making an announcement related to possible additional charges in the killing of george floyd. right now, fired officer derek chauvin faces charges of third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter, but the other three officers who were standing by, including two who also restrained mr. floyd, as they stood by as mr. floyd was killed, they have not yet, as of this hour, been charged. so we're waiting to see what happens there. we have president of the group color of change. rashad, this news of more charges. what's your reaction? >> well, i think this is an important step forward.

i think that, you know, a cnn reporter was arrested before these police officers were arrested. and so, we've been waiting and wondering why they weren't arrested. and i think it was important that this case was taken away from the hennepin county district attorney, who, unfortunately, you know, has had a horrible track record when it comes to holding police accountable. and we will see what happens. i do think that it's important for all of us to recognize, as this sort of process moves forward, that there is a deeply challenging and problematic threshold that you have to reach in order to ensure that there's justice served when police officers kill or harm someone. and that threshold is going to be something that we're going to have to fight to change, because we continue to run up against it all around the country. but it's important that these police officers are arrested and charged. it's important that we move this next step forward for justice and that we ensure that george floyd's family gets the justice that they deserve, and we continue to build the momentum

to change the rules that allow this to happen far too often without justice at all. >> i want to ask you, rashad, about a meeting that you and other civil rights leaders had with facebook ceo mark zuckerberg about his decision to leave president trump's inflammatory posts about the shootings, the lootings starts, the shootings starts, for instance, leaving those up on facebook. tell us what he said in this call and what you thought about what he said. >> yeah, it was a video call with him and some of his staff. this is not the first time we've met with him. in fact, some of the policies that we are demanding that he enforces are policies that we fought to put up, fought for them to actually implement in the first place. you know, mark zuckerberg kind of gave this answer that, in some ways did not land for us at all, because he was sort of speaking to this idea that president trump is the, as a person who controls the sort of

military, that maybe he was making a demand from the state. we were also in that same meeting talked about the ways in which president trump is sort of pushing voter suppression by spreading lies about vote by mail. as we pushed mark zuckerberg, it remained very clear that this is just a person who may be good intentioned, but no single person should control a platform that has 2.3 billion users, more followers than christianity, without any rules or regulation. 60% of the shares can make unilateral decisions. it's why private people shouldn't own public squares in our country. and be able to make these unilateral decisions. as i sat on the meeting and looked at the faces of facebook leadership that was looking back at me, i was surprised at a platform this large and this powerful, in this day in age, could have no one with civil rights expertise, racial justice expertise in their leadership.

i spoke at their shareholders meeting last week and pushed for more civil rights and racial justice expertise, human rights expertise on their board. and of course, because mark zuckerberg was against that proposal, it doesn't even matter what the other shareholders believe because, once again, he owns 60% of the shares as chairman and ceo. this is the problem with consolidated corporate power in this country. and it does deep damage to all of us when he can just sort of decide whether or not he thinks that something's a problem. >> you've said that you had to explain things to him or that you and others had to explain things to him when it came to things about race. i think these were things that you communicated you thought he would already have a grasp of. what kind -- like, give us an example. what did you have to explain to him? >> well, we really had to try to walk him through how voter suppression operates. you know, he's giving an

exception, an exemption to donald trump to suppress the vote. it's sort of like a political exemption. he may say that he's not, but in practice, he actually is. and we had to sort of help him understand that voter suppression is not just something that is about whether or not you like trump or not, right? when you open up the sort of avenues for politicians to lie about voting and lie about the census online, you're not just opening it up to whether or not people are debating back and forth about what the president says on twitter, which we may be able to push back on, on your platform and others, but it's about that sort of local sheriff in a town that may be targeting immigrants. it may be the local city council person that tells people that, don't show up to the polls if you think you owe back taxes because we'll arrest you. all the ways in which we have seen for literally generations, since we've gotten the franchise in this country, that powerful forces have sought to suppress the vote. he simply did not have a grasp

on it. you know, to be clear, i probably don't have a deep grasp on the intricacies of a back end of facebook's platform. i probably -- i definitely couldn't help you with the coding. and that is why when people are in leadership, they need people in positions that can actually help -- >> i have a question, though. do you think understanding sort of basic history about how voter suppression has been carried out is as difficult to a noncoder as understanding coding? >> it shouldn't be, but as a person who continues to have to show up to these meetings, continues to engage, continues to push, i also want to say that we are also seeing an uprising of facebook employees who are speaking out on twitter, on facebook themselves, who are outraged. we're not just on the outside pushing, but we are seeing folks on the inside. and i want to say to the facebook employees that are pushing up and standing up for our democracy, that we see you

and we appreciate you, because part of how change happens is not just on the outside, but folks on the inside pushing and fighting and demanding for change. right now, we only have so many levers, because the rules of the road for big social media platforms were written before there were big social media platforms. and so, we've dealt with this sort of interesting thing where, sometimes, facebook has argued that they're a media platform, like you all. and then when the rules of media platforms have to apply to them, they go to capitol hill and say, you know what, we're not a media platform. and so, being able to have it all different ways means that they can keep moving the ball on what's acceptable or not acceptable on their platform. there are probably people who are watching right now who have had their content taken down or flagged. but the most powerful person, you know, in the world, can get on the platform, attack, target, harass folks, but also use the

power to actually create problems in our democracy by telling lies about voting, which could actually suppress the vote and have real harm. >> yeah. >> those are things that facebook has to make a decision about. twitter has made some good steps. not enough, in our opinion, at all. but actually, mark zuckerberg's on the record now criticizing twitter for the steps that they took. there's a lot that has to change. facebook has such a huge platform, such a huge reach, 2.3 billion users. and we need to make sure that they platform has to operate by of rules. >> no, it is, the reach is extraordinary. rashad robinson, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> we are awaiting an imminent announcement on possible additional charges in george floyd's death involving the officers who where seen on that tape standing around as floyd died. plus, we're expecting floyd's family to meet with the nypd commissioner any moment.

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president's much-criticized photo op monday at st. john's episcopal church. i want to bring in former cia director and former nsa director general michael hayden. and we just heard from our kaitlan collins, general, that the white house is not happy with esper's press conference. are you surprised by that? and what do you think that means? >> no, i'm not surprised at all. and i'm glad he said some things, but you know, he didn't do enough, okay? two days ago, he was there with the chairman of the joint chiefs, and, well, it was very, very political. >> you had a very advivisceral reaction to seeing esper and general milley walking over to st. john's church. >> he was in the picture. he should not have been there at all. >> secretary esper directly

contradicted the president today. he said he does not support the use of the insurrection act, which is, of course, using military force inside the united states to quell these protests. how significant is that to you? >> that's very important. and i watched him and i said, okay, that's good. but you know, there's still much going on, you know? well, for example, two days ago, i thought, maybe he should resign. >> do you still think he should resign? >> yes, i do. >> you tweeted that general milley should not have walked over to the church -- >> absolutely. >> -- in his uniform. >> that's exactly right, okay? i've been many times to the white house, okay? but i didn't wear that uniform. i wore a different uniform,

okay? he shouldn't have been there either. >> do you think he's making a political, i guess, statement when he wears his uniform like that? >> absolutely! right when he walked out to the church or to the park, okay, that was wrong. i was watching tv, and i saw that and said, oh, my god, he's going there, and that's not good. >> yesterday, a former top pentagon official resigned from the advisory board over esper's perceived support of using pepper balls to clear out protesters there in front of the white house. he said that esper violated his oath of office. do you agree with that? >> well, i think he should resign. >> a former cia analyst who told the "washington post" that they've seen this kind of violence before while tracking

developments in china, in south as asia. this is what autocrats do. that's what they said. and they said, this is what happens in countries before a collapse. >> that's exactly -- >> obviously you agree with that. >> absolutely. and i said before, okay, if one term for president trump, it's okay, but two terms, and i think we'll be another country. >> general, thank you so much, general michael hayden. >> thank you. new york governor andrew cuomo now addressing his criticism of police after stores were vandalized in the city, this after the new york police department chief says cuomo apologized. plus, president trump says he went to the bunker during the peak of friday's protest to, quote, inspect it? we're going to fact-check his remarks today. it only takes a second

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the president, his white house, the u.s. park police are engaging in revisionist history. they're not telling the truth when it comes to that photo op stunt that they pulled at st. john's church. first off, they claimed that protesters were throwing things. that's why they had to bump them back so forcibly, well, our cnn team was on the ground. teams, i should say. we had many of them. they did not see any projectiles. then officials from the administration claim they did not use tear gas. already, they used pepper balls and smoke flash bangs, which caused these images that you're seeing right now so all right,

if you want to split hairs there, it's a distinction without a difference, right? pepper balls and flash bangs share many similar effects of tear gas. including excessive tearing, cnn's team on the ground witnessed, experienced this. you can see the folks in front of you experiencing it. the president wants a correction from the media that tear gas was not used, but in fact, by his own cdc's classification, it was tear gas. the term tear gas is often used to described different substances that are used for crowd control. quote, riot control agents are chemical compounds that temporarily make people unable to function, causing irritation to the eyes, mouth, throat, lungs and skin. so all leads to the question, if you can't be honest about your tactics that are verifiable, on

camera, how the hell do you expect people to trust law enforcement? with me now, daniel dale, gave an interview to brian today, and asked about the photo op at the center of this incident. let's listen. >> and i said, go to the church. i didn't know, protesters, nobody tells me that. they say, yes, sir, we'll go to the church. so we walked over the church. it was very fast. i think it was very symbolic. i did hold up a bible. i think that's a good thing, not a bad thing, and many religious leaders loved it. take a look at franklin graham. so respected and so many others, take a look at robert jeffers, these are all people you know. they thought it was a great symbol, and i thought it was a great symbol. >> all right, daniel? over to you. give us the straight deal here. >> there were a lot of religious leaders who loved it but many prominent in the washington area

denounced it strongly. the catholic archbishop in washington was sharply critical, he said, pope john paul ii would not condone a stunt like this, speaking to anderson cooper of cnn, the episcopal bishop of washington said she was outraged, her church had been used as a prop, and even the southern baptist convention, non-raving liberals changing from sharply critical to a more veiled but certainly not strongly in favor, brianna? >> in this interview the president had here, he took what seemed like a number of liberties here. he was asked about the reporting that he was taken to a secure and that's what stuck that led to him going across the street for the photo op, but here's what the president said about his time in the bunker. >> it was a false report, it wasn't that. i went down during the day and i

was there for a tiny short period of time, much more for an inspection. there was no problem during the day. these have gone down two or three times, all for inspection, and you go there, some day you may need it and you go there, i went down, i looked at it, it was during the day. it was not a problem. and i read about it like a big thing. there was never a problem, we never had a problem. >> it's almost like the repeating of we never had a problem, put it through the translator box. actually, we had a problem. is that fair, daniel? >> i wasn't in the bunker in the white house, so i'll be cautious in asserting that the president was false but what he said here contradicts news accounts not only from cnn but "the new york times" and fox news, the very outlet that employs the host he was speaking to here. all of us reported that the president was rushed to the bunker by secret service on

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it's the top of the hour. i'm brianna keilar. we begin with what could be a pivotal moment in the george floyd death investigation. we're awaiting right now an imminent announcement from the minnesota attorney general keith ellison who says he has made a decision about whether or not to charge the other officers in the death of george floyd. so these officers who have since been