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have been upgraded from third degree to second degree felony murder. he's the one pinning floyd to the pavement. he kept him there. >> we got all four. >> demonstrators chanted we got all four after the other three former officers were charged with aiding and abetting second degree murder. floyd's death has exposed a raw nerve in this country. a huge march happened defying a curf curfew. portland, oregon, protesters were met with riot police and national guard troops. one of the many flash points has been at the trump white house.
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it has been pushing protesters further and farther away. we get the latest from cnn's alex marquadt. >> reporter: the large demonstrations have been focused for the past week on the white house. today this was as far as the demonstrators could come, pushed back even farther away from lafayette park. now about another half block away. still, protesters came in huge numbers peacefully chanting, taking a knee at times, singing, listening to music. a real party like atmosphere. at other times much more intense as they marched straight up to the line as well as officers from the bureau of prisons which really speaks to this patch work of federal law enforcement that has come to dc, that is working in dc in this time of crisis. i want to point out that church, that is saint john's episcopal
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church. that is where president trump went for his now infamous photo op in which he held up the bible. i was speaking with the rector of st. john's, he said worshippers were not allowed inside the church. it was the first time since 9/11. there is a curfew in effect at washington, d.c. that was at 11 p.m. that is long since past. they're still protesting peacefully. the mayor said that curfew would not be enforced as long as the protesters do, indeed, stay peaceful. alex marquardt. former president barack obama made his first statement. he said he's hopeful real change can come from this moment in history. >> in some ways as tragic as
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these last few weeks have been, as difficult and scary and uncertain as they've been, they've also been an incredible opportunity for people to be awakened to some of these underlying trends and they offer an opportunity for us to all work together to tackle, bring about real change. we have to highlight a real problem and make people in power uncomfortable but we also have to translate that into practical solutions in walls that can be implemented and we can monitor and make sure we're following up on it. >> obama said demonstrating is not enough. he's going to show up and vote in november. protestors have been calling
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for charges against all four officers involved. when the news broke that the officers were being accused, protesters reacted with joy and relief. >> reporter: a long awaited decision for george floyd's family and supporters. >> george floyd matter, he was loved, his family was important, his life had value and we will seek justice for him and for you and we will find them. >> reporter: keith ellison announcing charges for the former police officer who neiled on george floyd's neck killing him will be increased to second degree murder and the other three former officers who either helped hold floyd down or stood watching have been charged with aiding and abetting. ellison asking for patience as they work through the process. >> trying this case will not be an easy thing. winning a conviction will be hard, but history does show that there are clear challenges here.
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>> reporter: just hours earlier -- >> all of the world is watching. >> george floyd's son stood at the spot where his father took his final breath. >> this is for my father, and no man or woman should be without their father and we want justice for what's going on right now. >> family attorney benjamin crump making a powerful statement that floyd's life sheds a light on inequality everywhere. >> when george floyd said i can't breathe because when he can't breathe, none of us could breathe. and so this is a tipping point. >> reporter: earlier tim walls visited the same hallowed ground. >> i have to personally and viscerally feel this. i don't think we get another chance to fix this in the country, i don't. >> reporter: as protesters take
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to the streets around the country, as curfews passed in the cities, there was once again unrest. cnn cameras were there as looting continued in new york and in lafayette park across from the white house where mostly peaceful protests police used pepper spray directly through the fence at our camera. in new orleans, police officers took a knee with protesters. >> in boston and houston, a protester playing with a police chief. >> amen. >> but as george floyd's family continues to grieve -- >> she wants to know how he died. the only thing that i can tell her is he couldn't breathe. >> reporter: their hope, that his death will bring change.
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from new york is cnn legal analyst joey jackson. thanks for being with us, joey. >> nice to be here, john. >> firstly, the way this has been handled by the authorities, why did it take, what, nine days to get to this point where the people who were obviously going to be charged were charged? >> there's the problem. there therein lies the rub. communities of color feeling there are two systems of justice. one that works for one group and one that doesn't work for another. why do i say that? because in practical terms, if there's reason to believe that a crime was committed, that's the standard. it's called probable cause. there's a reason to believe a crime was committed. an arrest is effected immediately. they don't wait, police, prosecutors until they have enough evidence to prove you guilty beyond reasonable doubt. that's the standard at trial.
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there's no requirement you interview every witness. so the fact that the officer chauvin who was the one who engaged in the knee to the neck for 9 minutes and then just today nine days later there's the arrest of the other three, it's troubling, problematic and it leads to what you're seeing in the united states, which are pockets of protest throughout the country with people saying, i'm mad as heck, i want change and i'm not going to take it anymore. so in essence the basis for the arrest now, it's inexplicable that it's taken this long. >> the attorney general upgraded the original charge from a third degree to second degree felony murder. this is how he explained the difference between the various possible murder charges he could have brought. here he is. >> according to minnesota law, you have to have premeditation and deliberation to charge first degree murder. second degree murder you have to intend for death to be the
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result. for second degree felony murder you have to intend the felony and then death be the result without necessarily having it be the intent. >> in the course of committing a felony, assault, and the victim dies, have i got this right, all the prosecutor needs to prove is that the assault happened? >> that's exactly right. so there was a lot of clamoring for a first degree murder charge to be applied here. that i believe the prosecutor felt it was problematic. you would have to show intent, premeditation, planning. that would be a high standard. what he did is pivoted to second degree murder, in the second degree murder, the theory is, just as you said it, john, you establish there was a commission of a felony, that being the assault, and in the commission of the felony even though you did not intend for the death to occur, it did. it's felony murder, that gets
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you where you need to be. remember, that's the charge as to officer chauvin. it's the second degree felony murder charge to the others. they aided, they abetted, they participated and as a result of the participation in the felony assault, they would be equally guilty. you rob a bank, you're not the guy who goes inside, you're in the get away car, you're the lookout, at the end of the day you're tjust as guilty as the person who went in with a mask and gun. >> charging an on duty police officer with murder is a very rare act in this country. between 2005 and 2015 charges have been brought just 54 times despite on average more than 1,000 fatal police shootings every year in the u.s. so is the attorney general looking what's his best chance
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for conviction? not the easiest but the most likely? >> i think that's exactly right. i think what you have to do is not with standing the public pressures, notwithstanding the public outcry for murder, murder, murder. you understand why people feel that way, but operating within the law what you're doing if you're the prosecutor is you're saying, listen, i could establish presumably that they were engaging in, the officers, that is, the felony. that felony is assault. we can see it with our eyes. if i can prove that. we know that he died as a result. therein lies my conviction. it's very difficult to get prosecutors to arrest officers. if you arrest them, it's hard for a grand jury to indict them. if you indict them, it's hard for a jury to convict them.
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i think the prosecutor sees this is his best shot, that's what he's going with and he's hoping he gets justice for george floyd and his family. >> from your lips to god's ear, joey, thank you so much. >> thank you, john. my pleasure. growing number of current and former senior military leaders are lashing out or at the very least publicly disagreeing with the president over his threat to deploy the military. james mattis has mostly kept silent since resigning last year from the trump administration. now it seems he's not holding back. he wrote this, donald trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the american people, does not even pretend to try, instead he tries to divide us. the president responded saying in part he didn't like his leadership style much less said anything else about it really and was glad he was gone. the current u.s. defense secretary, mike esper broke with
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trump. he caught the white house off guard telling reporters he did not support trump's call to use active duty troops against protesters. he also said he did not know ahead of time he'd be part of the president's widely criticized photo op at st. john's church. >> i do not support invoking the insurrection act. this should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. we are not in one of those situations now. i did know we were going to the church. i did not know a photo op was hatching. >> a form jer general criticize the president for failing to, quote, project any of the higher emotions or leadership desperately needed in every quarter of this nation during
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the dire moment. he said donald trump isn't religious, has no need of religion and doesn't care. he said this could be the beginning of change of american democracy to enlightenment. it will have to come from the bottom up. at the white house there is no one home. still to come, the outrage is going global. the international protests over george floyd's death and the surprising stance taken by the british government. want to brain better?
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we will not bring black children into a world that discriminates against them. we're not going to bring black people into a world that tries to silence them. today is the day that we stand, we walk. it's not about career, it's not about money, it's about your life as a human being. >> "star wars" actor john boyega
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gathered in london's hyde park. chanted black lives matter. no justice, no peace. in solidarity with protesters across the u.s. when asked about the demonstrations in central london boris johnson said he supported the right to peacefully protest injustice and he had this message for his friend, the u.s. president, donald trump. >> we mourn george floyd and i was appalled and sickened to see what happened to him and my message to president trump, to everybody in the united states from the u.k. is i don't think racism -- it's an opinion, i'm sure it's shared by the overwhelming majority of people in the world, racism, violence has no place in our society. >> there's been an outpouring of solidarity across the world after the death of george floyd. we have the latest with the national reaction from paris.
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the statements coming from boris johnson seem fairly boilerplate. when you look at the history of president donald trump, for boris johnson to say this is appalling, it does seem to sort of fly in the face of what the president's record -- the u.s. president's record, at least. >> reporter: it does seem to make him even more isolated than he seemed already in terms of the friends that he had abroad anyway. boris johnson has been criticized, as have french authorities, for being slightly slow to address this question. boris johnson there. we've heard from the french interior minister who addressed this in parliament yesterday. the clip you played a moment ago, it gives you an idea of the protests, the ones before yesterday in london and the ones in paris tuesday night are about black lives matter, are in sympathy with the united states but have touched a nerve in terms of the kinds of issues that people in the united
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kingdom, france, other countries face. we heard it here in the march on paris tuesday night, a sense that they are the targets of racism. the sense of impunity that they see in terms of the police ever facing justice when these sorts of incidents are -- and they are here as they are in the united states increasingly filmed. and it seems not often terribly successfully prosecuted. also timely, john, a word from the pope yesterday naming george floyd and they say this is something quite unusual, talking about the tragedy of his death, but also talking about the sin of racism and urging everyone to help brianne end to that even as the pope suppose to the necessity of these protests remaining as peaceful as possible. so all eyes very much from the rest of the world on what's happening in the united states with all sorts of reactions in places like europe and questioning how these issues are dealt with here as well, john.
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>> some good may come from this after all. early morning shift. here in the united states we'll find out in a few hours how many more americans are filing for unemployment claims last week. cnn's john defterios live in abu dhabi. these claims we've been watching. it's expected to be lower. that's a relative term right now, right? >> reporter: a relative term is a perfect way of putting that, john. the trend is down but the number remains sky high. there's some hope here because it could come below 2 million for the weekly jobless claims, which is the lowest we've seen since thisplace at the end of m number was nearly 7 million. historically claims come in on a weekly basis between 100,000 to 200,000. people say can you make comparisons to this pandemic vis-a-vis what we've seen. let's go back to 2008 and the global financial crisis.
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you can see the difference and the spread here with over 9 million jobs lost during the financial crisis or about that number and then 28, above 28 already in the pandemic. the bad news is we're not done. we see restructuring with the major fortune 500 companies. we could see the u.s. unemployment rate climb to 20% which is the depression in the . this blows out what we saw in 200 2008. >> we've seen black lives matter from tech companies but also soft bank. $100 million fund set aside for projects and startups which are owned, operated, started by those from minority communities. how does this compare to anything we've seen so far?
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>> reporter: they're going to make the claim to build the biggest investment fund in the united states targeting the minority communities, particularly the black american and latino communities. $100 million fund focused on tech is very large. many of the companies up to $10 million to have a racial bias wiped off the face of the united states, which is going to be a technical order. putting it into nonprofit organizations. this is to generate income and close that wealth gap as well, john. they're looking to take 50% of their profits, apply it back into the fund and also waive the management fee. it is something that is substantial from a japanese investor with $100 million in the fund. a fantastic track record in companies like alibaba. boy, is it needed. if you take a look a numbers whn it comes to that wealth gap, the incomes here, $71,000 for the
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average white family in america versus $41,000 for the average black family. household savings and wealth, 1/10 in the black community vis-a-vis the white community. health care is very expensive. you live there. the black community, nearly 10% go without insurance whatsoever. so this is a huge challenge, always has been even after the obama health care proposal. that's nearly double what we see in the white community. soft bank making something that's sustainable. they want to have a fund that grows over time. i think the one case having covered the la riots in 1992, the policies were not sustainable, john. will it change this time is the multi-trillion dollar question. >> multi-trillion. okay. john, thank you. john did he have tear yous. >> it is. >> thanks, john. after the break it seems drew brees has gone from hero to zero after criticizing players who
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security zone. floyd died while in the custody of minneapolis police. this was the scene in downtown los angeles as a 9 p.m. curfew took arrest. many were arrested even though they were given a chance to leave. the nfl's top quarterback is facing blistering blow back after his comments about players kneeling to protest police brutality. when he was asked about it drew brees said he will never agree with anyone disrespecting the u.s. flag of the country. he insisted standing when the national flag is played is all about unity. >> and is everything right with our country right now? no, it's not. we still have a long way to go, but i think what you do by standing there and showing respect to the flag with your hand over your heart is it shows unity. it shows that we are all in this together. we can all do better and that we
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are all part of the solution. >> i spoke with michael dyson how we go from protest to tangible outcomes. drew brees comments came up. >> you've got to raise the question and when you raise the question and you force the issues, then you begin to translate that into public policy. you know, some people have put forth ideas about defunding the police. los angeles, california, one of the biggest departments of police there, the lapd has said it will shift $150 billion of its budget towards other arenas that will enable the community to address some of the issues. when we move from protest to purpose, from mass movement to mission it is extremely important to identify those public policies that will
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translate that concern, but even more broadly we've got to talk about a shift in attitude, disposition of understanding and interpretation. for instance, a white famous football player, drew brees who is the quarterback of the new orleans saints, when asked the question about what was going on basically said, well, i will never -- in regard to colin kaepernick, the famous ex-footballer who took a knee to protest police brutality, mr. brees insisted rather much against the evidence that the whole issue was disrespecting the flag and his grandfather had gone to war and others pushed back like malcolm jenkins who is one of his teammates saying my grandfather went to that same war and yet when he returned he did not get a hero's welcome so the deliberate blindness, willful ignorance on the part of many white people will certainly be a barrier, but it seems many more white people are at least
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willing to be introspective and self-critical at this moment. >> speaker, author and georgetown professor michael eric dyson speaking with me a short time ago. reaction from the nfl has been quick and emotional. listen to malcolm jenkins, he's a teammate of brees. >> unfortunately somebody who doesn't understand that privile privilege, you don't understand the potential you have to be an advocate. you don't understand the history and why people like me, my skin color, whose grandfather fought and served, i protest against what is happening in america, if you don't understand that other people experience something totally different than you.
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when you talk about the brotherhood and all this other [ bleep ], it's only on the field. when i take my helmet off, i'm a black man walking around the streets and your response to me is, don't talk about that here, this is not the place, drew, where is the place, drew? i'm disappointed. i'm hurt. because while the world tells you that you're not worthy, that your life doesn't matter, the last place you want to hear it from are the guys that you go to war with and that you consider to be allies and to be your friends.
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even though we're teammates, i can't let this slide. >> quarterback for the green bay packers aaron rodgers did not mention brees by name but he said a few years ago we were criticized for locking arms. it has never been about an anthem tore a flag, not then, not now. listen with an open heart and turn word and thought into action. nba superstar lebron james treated this, you literally still don't understand why colin kaepernick was kneeling on one knee? it has nothing to do with the disrespect for the flag. the head coach of the denver broncos has apologized for what he said about racism. he said he does not see racism or criticism. later he said, i made a mistake. he has never been the subject of racism, others on his team have.
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he says he looks forward to listening to his players and working with them t american tennis sensation co coco gauff is calling out people. >> i think it's sad that i'm ago. protesting the same thing i heard many things this past week and one of the things i heard is, well, it's not my problem, so this is what i have to tell you this, if you listen to black music, if you like black culture, and you have black friends, then this is your fight too m. >> only 16. too young to vote but she told the crowd, it's in your hands to vote my future, my brother's future and for your future. pro athlete and a victim of police brutality said the fight for social change must continue.
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welcome back, everybody. just hours ago hong kong's legislative session was suspended following a scuffle as legislators debated a controversial bill which would make it a crime to disrespect china's national anthem. two pro democracy politicians were kicked out after they took to the floor to disrupt the meeting. cnn's will ripley live in hong kong. not much of a scuffle. it was enough to bring the session to a halt. they're still going to vote on the bill, right? where does it stand right now?
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>> reporter: so our producer spoke with some lawmakers. they expect the bill to take place tonight and they expect it to easily pass. this fits the theme of beijing wanting hong kong to be more respectful. when lawmakers and protesters were saying derogatory versions of china's national anthem that was very upsetting to the communist party, they tell their hand picked lawmakers they want to do something. since the legislature is set up, stacked always in favor of beijing's interests despite the fact that there's widespread opposition to main land policies, it is expected to pass. police presence investigating the scuffle that broke out. one of them spraying some liquid around the room apparently. you can see how tense things are around the city. this is a building you used to be able to walk into. the barricades are up. this is the anniversary of the tiananmen square. every year hong kong has held
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huge and peaceful vigils. this year because of the coronavirus pandemic, they're not allowing people to gather, they're shutting down victoria park and they will send people away. people have been encouraged to turn out in groups of eight or less. the coronavirus laws have limited it. we've seen in recent weeks protests. police have been much more aggressive in their tactics. it seems like a national security law is in place and will be in effect. we don't know how it will be enforced. you have police officers arresting people and clearing out areas before events have begun. this year if this protest is effectively stomped out, it will be the first time hong kong has not held a large formal remembrance of tiananmen square. that's something the government would be happy about. they've been trying to erase it from the history books since it
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happened. >> you've done a great job in mainland. hong kong is next. william, great to see you. live for us in hong kong. racism in america is like dust in the air. basketball legend kareem abdul-jabbar describing what it's like to be a black person in the united states. more in a moment. ♪ we all need somebody to lean on ♪ ♪ i just might have a problem that you understand ♪ ♪ we all need somebody to lean on ♪ can start investing today wherever you are - even hanging with your dog. so, what are you waiting for? download now and get your first stock on us. robinhood.
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in the air. it seems invisible, even if you're choking on t and then you let the sun in, then you see it's everywhere. we have a chance of cleaning it wherever it lands but we have to stay vigilant. it's always still in the air. and speaking with cnn's anderson cooper abdul-jabbar explained why he wrote that. >> i tried to set up an analogy that people could understand. you know, there's another way of describing it. it's like the united states is this wonderful bus with great seats in the front of the bus but as you go further to the back of the bus the seats get worse and the fumes from the exhaust leak in and really wreck with people's 4e8 ae's lives bu people at the front of the bus have no complaints. when i describe the dust in the air, that dust accumulates in the lives of black americans and
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it just eliminates all of the mechanics of democracy. democracy doesn't work for us. we are last hired, first fired. we have a different set of expectations from the criminal justice system. so many ways of american life discriminating against black americans and, finally, i think we've come to a moment of clarity here where it can result in such a horrible incident that we saw with mr. floyd's death. >> president obama spoke today about -- and i'm paraphrasing because his words were far more eloquent than my memory of them, but of essentially channelling the energy that we are seeing in this extraordinary outpouring and sustained outpouring to real systematic change, and i'm wondering how you think that is
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possible. i mean, do you think it's possible? marching the streets is extraordinarily powerful. where does it lead to that makes real change? >> i think it's possible, anderson, if it leads to forming a political will within our country to do something. something has to be done. it's not enough to say that was terrible and my thoughts and prayers are with you. that's not getting anything done. we have to -- we have to change the circumstances. it's been almost 30 years since the rodney king incident. did you see that as a routine traffic stop? if any white american had a relative get drunk and get stopped by the police and have that relative beaten like that, those people would be up in arms but yet 30 years passed, nothing has changed. there's been a lot more other dead black americans and they've died really for no good reasons.
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misdemeanors. eric garner died because he was selling cigarettes illegally. you know, these are trivial things to take someone's life over. we have to get to the point where we have to do something about that. this cause for political will maybe can grow and maybe we can get something done. >> reporter: anderson also spoke to abdul-jabbar about the charges against the officers. he said, that is a step towards justice. global pandemic and missing sports will be different. many players are changing as well. cnn's "world sports" spoke to a player from the houston rockets. >> having been through an experience like that yourself, did you see yourself in george floyd when that was happening?
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>> yeah. yeah. i think every black man in america in my opinion from the 14 years i've lived here can feel that way. it's -- again, it's that ultimate bullying. so i think it's just an abuse of power that you see in preschool musical bullying. it's at such a high level that the people have to be fed up. and something has to be done about it. >> reporter: as a former pro athlete, i don't know where my head space would be in light of the pandemic amid racial injustice and protests happening all across the country. how is your heart and mind right now thinking about potentially going back to play? >> you know, with everything that's going on, the main priority should be about fighting for sustainable justice and can we do that while playing basketball? i mean, obviously the athlete's not the only one that needs to step up and do things. i think it will be great to have the outlet in times like this for everybody. for the ones on the court and
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the people watching, but at the same time, myself and all the rest of the athletes with a platform, it's time for action. i want to stress that. i think it's time for all of us to take it up and be about action right now. >> do you think the country needs basketball back? >> good question. it can use some entertainment. can use some spotlight to put your mind to somebody else. the rivalry i think is going to be a little bit different with other fans in the stands and what's going on in the black community, you know, especially sports like nba where there's a lot of black athletes. i think the brotherhood and togetherness will definitely be felt. >> well, meagan duchess of sussex has called the civil unrest absolutely upsetting. meagan said george floyd's life mattered along with the lives of many others.
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she called on the graduating class to action. >> we are going to rebuild and rebuild and rebuild until it is rebuilt because when the foundation is broken, so are we. you are going to lead with love. you are going to lead with compassion. you are going to use your voice. you're going to use your voice in a stronger way than you've ever been able to because most of you are 18 or you're going to turn 18 so you're going to vote. you are going to have empathy for those who don't see the world through the same lens that you do because with this diverse, vibrant teachings of immaculate heart are, i know you have great hearts. >> the only thing wrong to say is saying nothing. i'm john vause. "new day" is up next.
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demand justice. >> trying this case will not be an easy thing. >> winning a conviction will be hard. >> massive peaceful protests all across this country. >> there are about several hundred protesters who headed towards downtown brooklyn. >> we saw a small group of them break off, surround a police car. that's when officers were called in for backup. >> when i hear secretary mattis speak out against donald trump, that's what we have been looking for. >> talked about providing america. we talked about immature leadership. this is a powerful statement. >> this is "new day" with alisyn
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camerota and john berman. >> we want to welcome our viewers all around the world. this is "new day." overnight we saw some of the largest demonstrations yet in cities across america even after the remaining three police officers involved in george floyd's death were arrested and charged. these were largely peaceful protests demanding justice and fundamental change to a system that has made it dangerous to be black in america for decades. this morning we are hearing for the first time from a key witness. it's his long-time friend who was in the passenger's seat the day george floyd was killed. he said george floyd did not resist police. despite that video showing a police officer putting his knee on floyd's neck for more than eight minutes, minnesota's attorney general is warning it could be hard to win a conviction against the cops. >> so much news this morning. also, new
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