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washington. the nation is watching minneapolis where the city council is considering a temporary restraining order to address police brutality. the 46 years old father who died at the hands of police when an officer put his knee on floyd's neck for 8 minutes. protesters are expected continuing throughout the nation in his name. demonstration call force an end of police abuse, there are a troubling number of new cases where officers are accused of doing just that. police pushing a 75-year-old man to the ground in buffalo. police slamming -- >> [ bleep ].
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>> police slamming a woman to the ground in atlanta. and in atlanta, police slamming a woman to the ground, breaking her collarbone. when asked how this is a good day for george floyd, the president did not answer. in the meantime three additio l additional -- pardon me, i want to continue on by saying there were three additional officers vo involved in floyd's death. we know two of them were extremely new to the job. one had been in his role for just four days and another was
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on his third shift. this is his third shift that he ever had as a police officer. those cops blamining eric chauv for floyd's death. omar jimenez is joining me live now. before we talk about these specific officers, tell me about the city council vote. officials say the changes will be short term pending the results of an investigation. >> reporter: we spoke to the city council earlier this morning troig ying to get a senf what this meeting is going to be about. we seen an investigation ordered by the state into indianapolis
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police department. that review is going to take some time. officials here felt their community and they could not wait that long. these are short term measures that could include police disciplinary actions. these are measures that could impact use of force policies and we know the city council president who i have followed for a while now based on different questions that are coming into place. and today, yesterday, i should say she tweeted they would dismantle the police department in favor of moving toward as safety measure. that's going to be debated and you will see it play out in just about 30 minutes or so. as you alluded to before you came to me this comes as we saw additional court aexperienppearr
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three of the officers charged for floyd's case. two of them had their knees on his body. each of them charged with second-degree murder and second-degree man slaughter. we got a glimpse of what the strategy may be for the defense saying these officers were junior officer and they were just following orders and in regards to potentially getting chauvin's knee off of floyd's neck, one of the defense in court said that what you expect my client to do, physically pull him off of george floyd? that seems to be the dynamic in regards to where they are during the court proceedings. we have yet to see derek chauvin to appear. that's expected in the next few days. >> omar, thank you for that report in minneapolis. my next guest was a special prosecutor on another landmark case on excessive force.
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the officer involved in killi killing -- it is going to be hard to get convictions against these officers. >> it is hard to get these types of convictions against police officers. it is stacked in favor of police officers at these cases at every state of the proceedings. these cases are investigated by police officers, you are seeing t the facts. the decisions at trial weighs heavily in favor of the officers. the issue was whether or not they're kind of justified and reasonable and it is viewed from the positive of a reasonable police officer acting under the circumstances that confronts the officer. finally you have jurors that are predisposed to render a verdict
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in favor of police officers. we all grow up learning to trust police officers and i think that bias reflected in how the jury reads these cases. you add the element of race when you have for example a black witness testifying against a white police officer, you have all the biases and prejudices that come with our racial in equities in our society and our justice system. >> i wonder as you look at this and you know you must look at many cases think how you would prosecute it and how would you prosecute this case? >> well, you know the star witness in this case is the video tape that we all seen. then there will be body-worn camera that we have yet to see videos from. we have many witnesses there at
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the time. there will be expert and the medical examiners that's going to improve the cause of death, witnesses regarding what police officers, how they are trained and not trained. so that's a type of evidence that you will see by the prosecution in this case. >> you say that the strongest evidence is actually what happens after floyd was taken away in the ambulance. what do you mean by that? >> well, that's very important. what we have not seen, for example, are any records of conversations between the officers in the squad car or the police center. most critical are going to be the incident report that were completed by the officers and whether or not they contain any false statements regarding the degree to which george floyd may or may not resisted for
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their own conduct during the episode. to the extent they lie in the police report. >> two of these officers we learn were extremely new to the job. they are now blaming officer chauvin who's a 19-year veteran. what do you think about how that's going to play out here? >> that illustrates what keith ellison was saying a few days ago about the difficulty of these cases. it is up to the defense lawyers to prove number one, t they'hey going to say their conduct was justified and if they can say hey i was new to the force, this is how i was trained to handle these situations and everyon mo importantly i was following the lead and i was referring to the more senior officer chauvin
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who's been in the force for 18 years. the defense lawyers are going to offer that as an excuse for their conduct. that's why attorney general ellison recognized these can be difficult cases to prosecute. >> don lewis, thank you, we appreciate your perspective on this. >> thank you for having me. there is some disturbing vid vide video that had come to light here of an elderly man being push todd ted to the ground by even though the police claims he fell although that did not happen. we are now learning several players on alabama football team have tested positive for covid-19. this is cnn's special live coverage. we have a saying at us foods:
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welcome back, president trump's former chief of staff, john kelly says he agrees with james mattis. mattis saying he's angry and appalled by trump's actions in the last week and the president is trying to divide the country. here is what he said. >> he's quite a man, jim mattis, for him to do that tells him where he is relative to the concerns he has for our country. >> do you agree with him, john?
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>> i agree with him. i think we need to step back from politics. i think we need to look harder at who we elect and i think we should start all of us regardless of what our views are in politics. we should look at people that are running for office and put them through a filter, what is their character like and what are their ethics? >> joining me now is cnn's abby phillips and kate bennett as well. what did you think of the statement from kelly? >> it is really extraordinary brianna. let's take a step back. john kelly said that in that clip that we need to think harder about who we elect. well, shortly after donald trump was elected, he agreed to join the president's cabinet as homeland security secretary and as chief of staff. there is a little bit of a why didn't this occur to him at the time. i don't think trump has changed
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all that much in terms of character. secondly, mattis and kelly when they were both in this administration were fairly close. i it should not be a surprise they agree on this. i watched a lot of this conversation he had. this is still a man, he's criticizing the president in a strong language we have seen anybody criticizing someone they used to work for. he still does not want to go too far in this criticism which goes to show people like him who has a military background, the bar is very high for them to agree to come out and criticize the president of the united states which i think tells you a lot about how far we have come and what the president did this week and how that affected people in the military world. >> yeah, they're breaking norms and they're in a place that they probably did not think they would ever be.
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for decadedecades, they serve at their thoughts private. kate, i want to ask you something about the first lady because she's causing frustration in the we winst win. >> when the president was on the call on governors calling them jerks and wanting to dominate. at the same time the first lady was tweeting the need for peace and healing and unification. the first lady tweeting the country allows for a peaceful protest and calling for everyone to come together. she has not done much with the broad stroke of the country being divided right now. however, the stuff she has done has been so converse to what the west wing and the president's
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message is that it has caused some frustration of the west wing side. we know this is a first lady who does what he want to she want s. so much of what she is saying feels counter to the president. brianna. >> that's all you need to know when someone is tweeting about healing is running extremely counter to the president. kate bennett and abby phillips, thank you guys very much. officers are now suspended showing them pushing an elderly protester to the ground. that man laid there bleeding, officers walking past him. i will be speaking with the man who reported this. an nba head coach joins me why he fears being black in america. >> plus a black flight attendant
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in buffalo new york two police officers are now spus pended without pay. another shocking incident that's caught on camera, i will warn you this is disturbing but it is important to watch. >> all of this was unfolding during the protest against police brutality outside city hall. you can see two officers shoving the man who was 75-years-old two the ground. he's laying there motionless. here is the thing that's going to blow your mind.
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police initially said the man tripp trip and fell. this video is released. a short time ago andrew cuomo condemned the officers' actions. >> i spoke to the gentleman, thankfully he's alive. you see that video and it disturbs your basic sense of decency and humanity. why? why? why was it necessary? where was the threat? and where you say the threat and you just walked by the person when you see blood coming from his head? police officers just walked by. it is just fundamentally offensive and frightening. it is just frightening.
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>> mike desmond was in buffalo and he filmed that incident. thank you so much for being with us, mike. >> it is nice to be here. >> we seen what you saw. tell us what you saw leading up to this man. we see them approaching the police and they had this reaction. >> this is the end of more than 6-hour of protest here in buffalo. at the end the police wanted to sweep the steps of city hall so the few remandiining protesters were no longer there. they came across the city hall and how much stood some kind of a combat unit. this gentleman went up to one of them and you see the sequence of what happened. they got medics to him and they finally took him away in an
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ambulance. the difference in this incident is it was on video tape. that's the change of this period of protest from a lot of other protests i have covered over a lot of years. the public can look and see what happens. >> that's so important because the police lied about what happened, right? they initially said he tripped and felled after he was pushed i guess -- i don't know what it is but they changed their statement. if i can read this real quick, mike, the police spokesperson says once the department was made aware of a video, the commissioner suspended the two men without pay. were you surprised to learn they were lying initially? >> well, i think they did not realize that the video your viewers just saw existed. they said he tripped and felled
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well, that's not what's shown in the video tape. the public can look and see what happened. >> it looks like maybe other protesters were trying to aid the man. can you tell us what happened after the officers were just walking by him? >> there were people including me saying they had to get him some help and the officers just walked by and someone did shout eventually because there were medics seen and two medics did come up and treat him subsequently and ems was called and balance shambulance showed couple of emts and they continue to treat him and finally he's taken to the medical center which is our designated trauma center here. the police screened him and you can see the medics and the emts
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working on him and trying to help out. he was injured. >> yeah, it is so hard to watch, mike. it is so important you got that video. i don't know what would have happened if you were not there to capture it. that's honestly just makes us realize that so often there is not a mike desmond there to capture it. thank you so much for talking to us. >> glad to be on. thank you. nba coach will join me life why he fears being black in america and why protests and hashtags have not changed anything. a disturbing look shows how many officers have not faced consequences in the deaths of black men. we are learning several alabama football players have tested positive for coronavirus. i'm not hungry!
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to share his thoughts about being black in america. "feeling safe is not an option for me. we look alike to those who discredit our existence. we are recycling hashtags and protests." >> atlanta hawks' coach, lloyd pearce is joining me now. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> when you posted this, you took a photo of yourself for a reason and it was effective. tell us about this. >> the underline name is many may recognize me as the coach of atlanta but if you zoom into the picture, you don't get to identify who i am. i am still a black man and i
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have been a coach for two years and i have been african-american 44 years of my life and i dealt with injustice and inequalities not only for myself but many african-american men. people are reacting and seeing george floyd of the incidents that occurred. we don't see it until it hits home. i want to share it in the people of the platform that i can reach. >> you are hosting a company wide workshop on race right after you get off the air here. can you tell us a little bit about this and what you plan to say? >> i plan to say that we have a maj major problem in the united states and that's racial profiling and discrimination and murder of after condition american men by our law enforcement and there is a whitish and it goes into this acknowledging that we have that problem and for our
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organization, we want to be very transparent of where we stand and the fact that we need to acknowledge this is a real problem in our country and you know atlanta is a place of civil rights and a lot of forefront leaders that come out of this area and i think we have to be one of those organizations that addresses this and addresses the origins of the problem and keeps the conversations going. that's what the town hall is about and i am going to speak to the entire organization. >> i want to ask you about the nfl recently did which is passing an expansion of the rooney ru reese witherspo rooney's rule. i think people look at that and think there should be more coaches of color. the majority of nfl and nba owners are white, the vast majority, what about that and may be if that's part of the problem?
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>> well, acknowledging that you need to put in a rule to grant access is the problem. we are trying to figure out how to over come a history of oppression and put in a rule to say we are going to allow two more opportunities or one more opportunity shows the problem still exists. . yes, we need more black owners. it is the fact that we don't have the same access to those opportunities economically, systemically and whatever the case may be. we got to address the real issues and that's where i think some of this is start to come about. we are knowing that and seeing that. that's why people are protesting. >> it has been four years since colin kaepernick first kneeled
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during the national anthem protesting against police brutality. he was borrowing a tactic from the military taking a knee. when the nba resumes, do you expect nba players may be kneeling during the anthem? >> i can't speak for the players. i believe they're fwoigoing to something. they want to do something and they should do something to keep the conversation alive. what ckaepernick did was bringig the topic of racial profiling and murder of african-americans in our country to the table and so regardless of what form of protests we take, we have to keep the conversation alive and we have to address it is a real issue. i know our players and coaches, we formed a committee to address this issue and trying to impact change. we have to keep this conversation alive and not when it is emotional.
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>> have you thought about what you personally may do in that situation? do you think it is important for you to kneel? if you should shed light on sort of your internal thoughts on that. >> well, i am doing it. i am on cnn, we are working at the koercoaches' association, t is not the act. what are we trying to do? we are trying to keep the conversation of a systematic racism and blatant racism. we are trying to keep the conversation going. the act is not important, it is the action that's really we are called upon and we all have a plate form and t platform and the player havess platform. we all have a platform where we can impact change and bring people together to address the issue. that's all we are trying to do. that's all the kneeling and protesting is all about. we want to keep that conversation going. >> well, thanks for keeping it
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going with us, lloyd, it is so important to have you on talking about this, lloyd pierce. >> thank you. a reminder that cnn is teaming up with "sesame street" for a special to help you talk to your kids about raise ycism how to embrace diversity. you can submit questions on cnn.com/sesamestreet at 10:00 a.m. eastern. be sure to watch that. >> a flight attendant had an emotional conversation with a passenger and only learned who he is at the end of the flight. she's joining us live. >> reporters upset as the white house stopped social distancing at the president's event today. bottom line is,
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you know noknow those interactions between flight attendees and passengers go viral because someone acted poorly. driving into work, she prayed for work and understanding and peace. some of those prayers were answered after an incredible passenger named doug parker where she learned it is the ceo of american airlines. thank you for coming onto talk
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about this. tell us what happened on this flight. >> well, we board like any other flights and at the end where i noticed his book by robin angelo. i made it a mental note that when i finish with my service that i am going to talk to him. he was sitting near the window and i asked him about the book, so how is the book. oh, it is great. it tells us that it is our fault, we have to have those conversations and he goes, he keeps on talking and i respond and i just -- all the tears came out because i had to bury that to be a good flight attendant. i know all the stuff that's going on in the world and i had to bury that to put on a good
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face to be a flying attendant that day. all that came out. i appreciate him for that and we talked and it was a great conversation and then at the end he's like oh, what's your name, oh, jacquerae and he was like oh, i am the ceo of american airlines. >> and i reached over and gave him a hug. i pray for you this morning. i didn't know what i was praying for but i literally pray for you this moment and i appreciate you for that. >> jacquerae, i know you are talking about how important that interaction was for you. i think of how important that interaction was for him. if he's trying to seek out information and he's in charge of this giant company then he
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must be looking for something too. and i think is crazy. the only thing that brought us together is in the sky. it is crazy that in that moment he's doing the same thing that i am doing for him. he does not have to educate himself. he can run by me without having to pay attention to those things and that speaks to who he is and that i am so thankful for it. >> how important is it that people in positions of power and authority and who control the employment of so many people are trying to educate themselves and understand what's going on? >> it's important on all sides. it's important for him because he has to manage people. it's important for me because i have to understand and then grace and forgiveness have to come when people realize, which i'm noticing now, i have to
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offer grace and forgiveness because people are just realizing it. i thought it was a choice at one point, if you didn't want to see what we've been saying for so long, but people really did not know, and that is something that i have to shift my mind towards and that's what he did for me too, so it's just so important for all of us to learn from each other. >> certainly is. jacquerae, thank you. i can hear your phone. they didn't know it was going to be so big. >> thank you for everything, just, thank you so much for what you're doing. >> thank you. george floyd is just the most recent high profile case of black americans killed at the hands of police and right now, we want to remember some of the others. shaun bell was 23 when new york police officers shot him outside of a queens bar on the night before his wedding in 2006.
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three officers are indicted but later cleared on all charges. new york city settles a lawsuit with bell's family for more than $7 million. oscar grant, 22 years old, shot in the back by a bay area transit officer while laying face down on a platform at the fruitvale station in oakland on new year's day in 2009. officer later receives a two year sentence for involuntary manslaughter. in 2014, eric garner who uttered the words, i can't breathe, tackled to the ground by a new york city police officer while allegedly selling cigarettes illegally outside of a staten island store. grand jury decides not to indict the officer who used a department band choke hold, five years later, took five years in 2019, the nypd fired the officer. michael brown was just 18 when an encounter with a white police officer in ferguson, missouri, ended up with him fatally shot
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in august of 2014. the grand jury in this case also decides not to indict the officer. days later, the officer resigns. 12-year-old tamir rice was playing outside a rec center in 2014 when a cleveland police officer mistook the child's air gun for a real firearm. the entire incident unfolded within two seconds. the tofficer fired but cleared f any criminal wrongdoing and also in 2014, 20-17 laquon mcdonald t 16 times by a chicago police officer. dash cam shows him down the street but strolling away from the officers. officer shot mcdonald currently serving a six year sentence for second-degree murder. in april of 2015, walter scott is stopped by police for a broken brake light in north charleston, south carolina. cell phone video shows scott
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running from the officer directly away from him, as the officer shoots him in the back. the officer is charged with first-degree murder, but his state case ends in a mistrial and he later pleads guilty to a federal charge of violating scott's civil rights and tis sentenced to 20 years in prison. in 2015, baltimore police arrest 25-year-old freddie gray on a weapons charge for having a knife in his pocket. he suffers a severe spinal injury as he's being transported by police. he falls into a coma, and later dies. all six officers. philando castile in a minneapolis suburb, his girlfriend live streams the aftermath and says he was reaching for his id. following a two-week trial and a day of deliberations, jurors acquit the officer of all charges. also, 2016, alton sterling is
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confronted by officers outside a baton rouge convenience store, cell phone video shows him pinned down to the moment, that they shot him. police say they thought he was reaching for a gun. louisiana's attorney general later says an investigation determines the shooting was justified, and breonna taylor killed inside her home two months ago. a nurse who had been on the front lines of covid. officers broke down her door in the dead of night as part of a drug sting and according to a police warrant, they believed that a man was using her home to traffic drugs. over the course of the raid, taylor was shot at least eight times according to a lawsuit by the family. those officers are currently on administrative leave. and today, june 5th, would have been breonna taylor's 27th birthday. we have a saying at us foods: we help you make it. you, the independent restaurants of america...
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several university of alabama football players have tested positive for coronavirus after arriving on campus. this is according to "sports illustrated." the school would not confirm the cases because of privacy concerns. cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta is joining me now, and sanjay, tell us, how should the school be handling this? >> first of all, if this is true, it's not that surprising, right, i mean, we're now in this process where people are returning to campus. you're testing people. we know the virus is out there, so the idea that people are going to come back and have a positive result is not that surprising. the second thing is that, and we hope this is true, that these players will remain asymptomatic. they are not likely to get that
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sick, so those are the two sort of first pieces of how to look at this. i think now, what to do about it, is the big question, right, brianna? i think the players, clearly, who tested positive are needed to be isolated, they need to figure out what kind of contact did they have with these other players. these were supposed to be physically distanced workouts. what does that mean exactly? what about the few days before they tested positive? family members, friends, how's that all going to be handled? ideally, the players, again, would be isolated. their close contacts would be quarantined but how big a concentric circle is that going d to be? we know coach saban is taking this seriously and if we start to see outbreaks or clusters, we're going to have to shut things down. are we going to see these stutter starts, brianna? this is one of the first examples we see now of what's happening as people return to campuses. >> i want to ask you something that we saw about something we
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saw at the white house. referenced how they were sitting close together but look at these before and after pictures, because the white house, if we can pull those up, do we have those pictures? all right, we're trying -- we're putting them up here. so the white house rearranged the chairs deliberately trying to avoid social distancing. how problematic is this? >> i mean, this flies in the face of the cdc guidelines. it flies in the face of the advice given by all of the top officials on the coronavirus task force. i mean, we know that it's impossible to have not done that, so the pluses, it looks like the majority of people wear masks, they're outside. we know that's a positive. we know that the majority of people, though not everybody, gets tested on a regular basis. the problem is, why wouldn't you
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do everything you can to mitigate the exposure as much as possible? i mean, the guidelines are very clear on this. we are learning, as we go along, but in situations where it is possible to physically distance, to wear the mask, to be outside, all those things make a difference. nothing has changed about this virus, brianna. the only thing that's changed is how we are thinking about it, but the virus is the same. it is still a very contagious virus and it's out there, as we see in alabama with these football players, as we see in other places around the country. so i think what i would say is this flies in the face of the exact recommendations made by the federal government itself, and we know it is possible to actually separate out reporters, so why wouldn't you make that as safe as possible? >> yeah, it is very bizarre, very curious. sanjay, thank you so much. >> got it. thank you. i'm brianna keilar. this is the top of the hour. the nation is watching
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