celebrate and be grateful for. reminder, we can come through this together. all agree that change is needed and work together to achieve it. our coverage continues now with "ac-360." >> good evening. for 11 days we've been hearing the call for change in this country. from the ground up, all races and backgrounds in the middle of a pandemic. think about that for a moment as you look at live demonstrations. people risking safety by speaking out and confronting police, something most never do in their lives, also putting themselves at greater risk from virus already killed over 109,000 people, virus that is still here. that's how badly they want change after george floyd killing and change to deadlying

on standing. equal justice under the law. you can't have law and order without equal justice under the law and polling shows majority of americans, those not marching, agree with them. now mixed at best, something else entirely at very top. minneapolis city council pending final okay from judge barred police from using neck restraints and choke holds. andrew cuomo announced a new to bring accountability and transparence to law enforcement. at the same time we've continued to see instances of police hitting people with batons, not under threat or provoked but because they could. and moments like this.

police in buffalo knocking a 75-year-old man to the pavement, leaving him to lie with head injuries that sent him to the hospital. in contrast some doing the job responsibly or taking a knee with protesters. or houston's chief recounting. there's been a spectrum of responses over last 11 days. at very top, not the case. today the country got good news, economy gained about 20 million jobs, president wanted people to know it, wanted them to know a lot of things. did a victory lap on the economy, the pandemic and veterans bill he keeps claiming only he could get passed, even though passed in 2015.

and seats not arranged for social distancing because in the words of the press secretary, it looks better. so much for the coronavirus task force, it's not winning topic he's decided anymore. day after memorial services for george floyd, took him 22 minutes to mention mr. floyd and this is how he chose to do it. what he said. >> we all saw what happened last week, we can't let that happen. hopefully george is looking now right now saying this is a good thing happening to our country, great day for him, for everybody, this is a great, great day in terms of equality. what our constitution requires

and what it's all about. >> not mr. floyd, george floyd, the brother, the community member, longtime neighbor, said nothing about that or ex-police officer accused with murdering him. couldn't bring himself to utter the full name and grant him simple dignity that's been denied to generations of black men and women. instead to the president it was just george smiling down from the heavens above, happy what a great day it is. as for injustices leading up to the killing or ending them going forward, the president had nothing to say. >> mr. president, why don't you have a plan for systemic racism? why haven't you laid out a plan -- >> i would like to sign this bill. and by the way, what's happened to our country and what you now see has been happening is the

greatest thing that can happen for race relations, for the african-american community, for the asian-american, for the hispanic-american community, for women, for everything. because the country is so strong, going to have strongest economy in the world, almost there now. we have strongest economy in the world and now going to have economy even stronger. >> how would a better economy -- >> i'd like to sign this. >> how would a better economy have helped george floyd? >> will you take questions after? >> black unemployment up 8%, how is that victory? >> you are something. pbs reporter, president had no answer for effecting change or righting systemic injustice. made it plain in words and

actions that he sees this act as fight against anarchists and thugs as he says. sees it as chance to divide us further and score points with his base. protesters were assaulted and beaten outside the white house so he can pose with a upside down bible which he doesn't read? front of a church where he doesn't worship. all why the president shelters behind a bring of new fencing or at one point in the white house bunker he said he suddenly wanted to inspect. this president neither protested the war nor took part in it. but latest action persuaded some top commanders to speak out against him this week.

calling him a threat to the constitution, calling monday perhaps the beginning of the end to american experiment and whether or not it is and we can hope it is not. what happened sends a signal about president's priorities. not addressing systemic injustice or making policing more accountable. calls for military to take the streets and doesn't believe in peaceful act of taking a knee which drew brees apologized for making critical remarks about. president said we should be standing up, no kneeling. for some might be a deeply held belief and it is. but does anyone believe it is for the president? more red meat for the beef. nfl commissioner totally changed his position it seems. and washington's mayor sending a

message, remained a street across from the white house, black lives matter plaza. painted in large enough letters to be seen from above in helicopter or air force 1. do you have any confidence that president trump will be able to lead the u.s. to kind of change or discuss the kind of change this moment requires? >> no, anderson, and think you for having me. i don't think he's capable of it. i've had to make a conscious decision past few days to stop expecting something from him he's incapable of giving. every minute that i give to donald trump is a minute less i have to give to people and thinks that actually matter. what i'm encouraged by is secretary mattis and others speaking up, even see the first

lady tweeting things contrary to the hatred and division the president speaks, that encourages me and i hope we see more of that. >> when protesters talk about police reform and the systematic change -- there's a lot of different people from different walks of life with different ideas of what they want to see. what does reform of the criminal justice system and police departments look like to you? >> it takes on all different shapes. in atlanta we've eliminated cash bail bonds. transitioning jail into a center of equity. reallocated a large portion of corrections budget to equity initiatives. other side of that, reform in the police department. earlier this week president

obama put out a call to action to mayors to look at use of force policies. we're doing that in atlanta, signed executive order to make that happen immediately. i'm going to receive recommendations the next 14 days and we'll take additional 45 days to get input from the community, and begin to move the needle because we don't have time to wait. >> there's been talk of -- we've seen reforms in police departments throughout the ages, i mean i remember as kid growing up in new york in the '70s, a very different police force than it is now. they changed the education requirements for officers, for police officers who were joining the force. used to be a lot of corruption in the police force in terms of bribes and things like that. we have seen systematic changes but obviously i think everybody

agrees more needs to be done. seeing the videos, in some cases, maybe isolated, officers whacking people with batons when they don't need to but maybe it's emotional of the moment, not sure what is going on in their minds. pushing man down on the street, tasing two college students in a vehicle. how does police reform actually happen now? >> anderson, it's very frustrating. because for every video and tragic story we see, there are other good stories on the other side of it. >> that's true. >> police officers who volunteer with kids in centers of hope, diversity training in national center for human rights. mentoring kids in athletic league and those stories are not told. what is told is stories of bad

officers doing bad things. that's unfortunate but that's why it's incumbent upon us as leaders to make sure we don't let up, miss this moment and go back to business as usual. we've got to take a close look at our policies, how are we training these officers, what is their mental and emotional state. right now i know we have fatigued officers on the streets, working 18 and 20-hour shifts. does not excuse under any circumstances excessive use of force but i think it is incumbent upon us to make sure we have the best and most mentally and emotionally fit officers on our forces across this country. >> i know you know, lot of protesters holding up signs saying defund police. talked to mayor of houston about that yesterday, saying that's last thing you want to do.

you actually want better training, more resources, the best and brightest that we have to be in the police force. >> we reallocated money from budget in same spirit. when my 18-year-old nephew was murdered, we called the atlanta police department, they solved the murder. when my house was broken into, called the police department. we need police on the streets and in our communities and we all call upon them at one time or another, but again we can't let the bad actors overshadow the partnership we're supposed to have with our police department. they're not there to be warriors. they're there to protect us, and

to work alongside us. that's part of the 21st central policing plan that president obama and vice president biden left on trump's desk alongside the pandemic plan that he never bothered to read. >> mayor bottoms, i appreciate your time. >> van jones and glorjia borger. van, when you hear police reform, what are your thoughts on it? >> out of this tragedy something extraordinary has happened, black lives matter rallies of 1,000 people with only white people at them saying black lives matter. we've crossed a threshold, the nfl, roger goodell saying they were wrong the way they handle the nonviolent kneeling

protests. they look better now, seen as scandalous at the time. he's acknowledging that should have been handled way differently. there are bipartisan we could get done this year. guarantee you next week you're going to hear a lot of proposals coming out of congress, possibly out of the administration, possibly out of governors' offices saying why tonight we ban the choke hold, train for de-escalation rather than escalation, make it easier to sue police officers for egregious stuff. you want cops to be able to do their job without losing their house but if you do something atrocious, should be able to go into civil court against a officer, and right now you can't. common sense reforms can be done this year on bipartisan basis to

reduce amount of unlawful violence. you're seeing the best and worst of law enforcement every day. cops kneeling with protesters, calling community meetings, doing beautiful, heartbreaking stuff. and cops hitting people upside the head and acting like idiots. and that's what we face in the black community every day. now people are seeing both good and bad face. problem is bad face is never corrected. even the police officers who shoved that 75-year-old man to the ground and left him there bleeding, which was wrong, anybody knows that's wrong, 50-plus officers have resigned supporting the bully cops. so we've got a problem here but can be resolved, this year a big chunk of this could be knocked out and i hope it is. >> we saw the president speaking on the economy, about mr. floyd briefly, looking down from

heaven and saying this is a good day, came on the heels of meeting between president trump and his campaign advisers. how much of what we've been hearing from the president today and last 11 days is just about getting reelected? >> 100%. all of it. every bit of it. and he's looking at polls, he understands what he sees. and for the same reason he skimmed over the number of deaths in coronavirus and didn't meet with the families of those victims, he doesn't talk about social unrest. and i talked to -- >> he talked about social unrest but he talks about looting and anarchists. didn't know there were so many anarchists in the world. >> he can't talk about the peaceful protests of course because they were disrupted by bullets and helicopters, et

cetera, et cetera. i talked to somebody close to the white house, said look, the president is not conversant, as we all know, given the way he acted, tying the tragedy of george floyd's death to bright spot in the economy today, beyond tone deaf. they know he can't speak this language. they know he doesn't feel it. only thing he can talk about is the economy, because it's something he understands being a businessman for many, many years. so they're now talking about transition to greatness, which is not actually a great campaign phrase but it's something perhaps terra firma for him. he feels and they believe that's their only key to re-election to make people feel good. he told us i'm a cheerleader during covid. he's trying to be cheerleader

now while walls are being built around the white house to keep him from protesters? it's a remarkable pick. >> van, do you have a sense where this goes? next week we're going to see funeral for mr. floyd on tuesday in houston. where does this go, do we know? does anybody? >> well, there are two directions here negative is lot of lip service, no legislation, cops not convicted and on the pathway to more and more unrest. by end of the summer could have five to ten american cities on fire. that's one direction. but i think something has happened last few days. keith ellison, the attorney general of minnesota i've known for years stepping into the breach and arresting those cops. violent protests calming down at the same time the peaceful

protests are growing shows another possibility. that's to pass some good laws, have better conversations, and bunch of corporations are stepping up. michael jordan stepped up to put money on the table to help communities. having a flourishing of new conversations, philanthropy and hopefully new lawmaking and could end up better. but it's up to us. we're at crossroads, could go either direction. i'm pulling for us to notice the new common ground. there is common ground between african-americans, white folks and other folks there is something wrong with the law enforcement system that can be fixed and racism is real and we can do more about it. that's new continent that's emerged of common ground we should take advantage of.

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even as the president shows no inclination to change his views on racial injustice and police misconduct, commissioner of the nfl has.

roger goodell says the league was wrong about players protesting. colin kaepernick and others kneeled before games while the anthem was played to protest police brutality. >> we at national football league condemn racism and systematic oppression of black people, we admit we were wrong for not listening to nfl players earlier and encouraging all to speak out and peacefully protest. we in national football league believe black lives matter. >> commissioner goodell's statement follows a video from nfl players calling on him to say exactly that. sports analyst and columnist christine brennan, how did this come about? was goodell feeling pressure from players, fans, owners or sensing a change in the country? >> i think it's more the latter, anderson, sensing the change. we're hearing he was not

pressured by the donald trump statement, didn't need to react when donald trump was saying positive things about drew brees. wasn't that. certainly been four years in the making, wasn't a rush job. here we are now. i have known roger goodell a long time. grew up together, he on the padpr side and me as journalist. these are things he cares about. people criticize him all the time but can see him watching what's going on, listening to his players, like he said, if there are no black players, there is no national football league, he knows that and means it. would have loved to see him apologize to colin kaepernick or say something about kaepernick, maybe that's another day. but nfl has gone out in big way

and i'm sure one of their biggest fans donald trump is not happy about it. >> would the owners have to agree to him saying that? >> usually owners would have to agree or goodell does what they want. i don't know. at least ten nfl owners have given to donald trump's campaign, big supporters, including jerry jones with the cowboys, dan snyder here in washington, i'm going to guess some of them are not entirely pleased about this either because they're trump guys and have not signed colin kaepernick, no one has. and they definitely put their money where their mouth is with trump. so now you've got roger goodell going against the wishes of donald trump. that's a fact. i think that roger goodell is sensing the mood of the nation and with the majority of the nation, and something that

should be said, young fans are big fans of kaepernick, bought all the nike jerseys and t-shirts a couple of years ago in between 19 with successful marketing campaign with nike. for the future fan base, a positive move. maybe not older people. fans going to be around 50 years buying season tickets i think will like what roger goodell did. >> author of "under our skin: getting real about race and getting free from the fears and frustrations that divide us." you wrote about this in your book, what do you make of his statement? >> whether he's sincere or not, good things can come from this. listen to what he said, we the

nasl condemn racism and systematic oppression of black people. next step is start addressing that within the nfl. this is great announcement and i do agree that goodell cares about the issues. now look at the nfl. watched the draft, weren't many blacks in "c" level positions, or many minorities much less black people in ownership, three head coaches are black. that's where the action comes, addressing the nepotism problem that still exists in the nfl. great statement, applaud it, whether pressure of the players, which i applaud the players for leading this. go to the next step in action and see the proof with nfl clubs moving forward. >> your former teammate drew

brees had controversy when he said would never agree with kneeling in the national anthem. since apologized. do you accept that apology? >> of course. i know drew and played with him for several years. we have to collectively understand when somebody says something they didn't mean or misinterpreted, they apologize and we forgive and move on. drew said he's going to with his actions proof how he feels. biggest thing, he said he was going to listen. what roger goodell said. we can have multiple perspectives. if he doesn't agree with people kneeling for flag, mine but he has to understand the plight of brothers and pain of brothers. step into their shoes, i may not agree or understand that, but because i love your humanity, willing to listen where you're coming from.

i know beyond a shadow of doubt that's what he'll do. >> when this was being discussed with colin kaepernick and others, there were a lot of fans who seemed to not appreciate the idea of players taking a knee. certainly the president didn't. and it seemed like the pendulum once games started again and games were being played, seems like a lot of owners backtracked as well. >> i think things have changed dramatically, far beyond football. about our country and what you're seeing and talking about on air. nfl is a part of our culture and clearly they're seeing this. everything we thought might have ago is no more. >> yeah. >> and i can -- go ahead. >> no, you go ahead. >> so i think this shows if anyone is doubting how big a deal this is, tragedy of george

floyd and all the issues we're talking about with black lives matter, if anyone doubts this is a watershed moment in nation's history, sports league seems insignificant except it's the nfl, our national pastime, and goodell is giving that statement today, that signals that things have changed dramatically. >> bring in aaron jones, running back with the green bay packers. how do you think goodell's message will be received by players? and by you? >> by me, just glad to see he's listening. note he's made, collect himself and has open ears. so what's in store ahead, i mean i think everybody -- i can't tell you how somebody else is going to react. >> benjamin, you did an

interview i think yesterday, talking about you had racist teammates. do you wish this came from goodell a lot earlier? >> i wish we weren't dealing with any of this. truth of the matter is we live in a fallen world, we have sin in our world that manifests in a bunch of things including racism. my wish is wouldn't have any of this going on but we do. wish not just a statement be made but not be dealing with disparities we are in the culture. the 200 years of slavery, years of jim crow, red lining, resident segregation, everything. here we are. question is how we collectively, white, black, rich, poor are going to make this country

better. has to be about america looking in the mirror. right now seeing reflection of ourselves and deciding what we need to do to make it better. >> aaron, when the season starts again and players are on the field, how do you think this changes things? >> back then we knew what it was about, solidarity, we all knew. for us nothing really is going to change, continue to go about ourselves the way we do today. because we don't see that. we know we have one common goal. >> aaron jones, i appreciate you joining us, thank you so much. benjamin watson as well and

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upper east side of new york. couple of arrests, large numbers of police. don't know the situation. curfew began at 8:00. protests have brought out best in many people, worst in others, looters and some law enforcement. closer look. >> no justice. >> no peace. >> justice now! >> reporter: after 11 days of nationwide protests, growing number of disturbing police incidents on video emerging from across the country. in buffalo, new york, two officers suspended after 75-year-old protester was pushed and left bleeding on the ground. initially police said the man tripped and fell but video shows two officers pushing him before he falls backwards to the ground. >> when showed the video, got

sick to myself. >> reporter: all 50 members of the emergency response team have resigned from the team, but not the department. said the sofrss were executing orders. >> oh, my god, so scary. >> reporter: new video appears to show officers violently striking manuel ellis as he lies on the ground, holding him telling him to put hands behind his back. died after being physically restrained by police. his family calling for the four offers to be fired. medical examiner ruled his death a homicide. >> he was a blessed child, okay? blessed, good and did not deserve to be murdered at the hands of the police. >> reporter: and in atlanta, new video of a woman being body

slammed by a police officer, breaking her collarbone at protest may 29th. no word yet from the atlanta police department whether the officer involved will face disciplinary actions. while in new york city last night, a small siphon hope as police chief in brooklyn de-escalated a situation with protesters by shaking hands and listening. as african-american officer, how does it sit with you? >> black man but love being a police officer, not resigning, going to make sure everybody's safe. >> joining us now with someone familiar with communities and police experience, auj of "the third option: hope for a racially divided nation," thanks for joining me, you reached out to me on instagram and i'm happy

you're willing to come on. unique perspective. dad was police officer, son is currently, and you've had profound comments about what is going on. for you right now, what do you think needs to happen in this country? in this moment? >> i'm so glad you asked, thanks for having me. so glad you asked. we have to get to solutions. wrote book because we live in us versus them culture. for or against the police, for or against blacks or whites. third option is honor what we have in common. we have more similarities than differences, if we focus on that, all in a journey. all bleed red. like our sleep, our food, all want to get along and have peace. we have to take steps to bridge that gap. one of those things is acknowledge we have blind spots. blind spot is you not knowing what you don't know.

lot of times we don't know when we're offending somebody. it's gap between intent of what you do and impact of what you do. lot of times people say things that are offensive they don't realize. when you say i don't see color, people are trying to build a bridge but person of color just feels like you invalidated everything they are. this color has burdens and things they've been through, when you tell them you don't see color, tell them you don't see them, don't acknowledge what they've been through and you can't love them properly because not adjusting that. tan we get in hawaii we celebrate, tan someone gets in the womb we invalidate. >> lot of people watching the protests who see different things. kareem abdul-jabbar wrote about it eloquently, spoke to him, people can look at one protest and see different things

depending on the side of the aisle or zip code they're in, whatever point of view they have. not sure how one overcomes that but i think there are a lot of people not sure about where this goes and maybe some people focus more on law breaking and looting and others focus on police actions that are brutal. and yet the vast majority of police and vast majority of protesters have been trying to follow the law and peaceful and -- how do you get away from the us versus them? and this polarization, stoked by our political leaders, media, everything. >> first you have to acknowledge it is us versus them and you have blind spots. social narrative shapes your world. information you got from parents, school, neighborhood.

and develops the lens and filter through which you interpret everything. social filter determines how you interpret what you see on the news, people rioting and protesting and police. my social narrative is one of 7 billion. i don't know everyone's. i have to humbly say help me understand your perspective. people coming together, talking, listening to each other, learning from each other and learning to love each other. but if it has to be my way versus yours, not going to get anywhere. have to rename people. everyone was made in the image of god, even the people looting. doing bad things but made in image of god and having the potential to have productive lives. if can see them not through the lens of looter or thug, all the names we give people, see god's

potential in them and treat them that way, can see it move forward. >> one of the things i believe as reporter is importance of walking in someone else's shoes and trying to see things from different vantage point. online somebody said the other day, think to themselves, what if i'm wrong. don't do that often. what if my perspective is wrong on this, being open to that possibility can lead to interesting places. >> brother, you hit it on the head. when people saw george murdered, the reason people on the streets -- some of them because just fed up with it absolutely. but i believe a lot of people are out there because they realized, i was wrong, kaep was kneeling for a good reason and if we had heeded his kneeling on the field, might not be mourning

the kneeling on george. people realizing maybe i had this wrong. "the third option" is about having race consultations not conversations. we do see color, because of that, we have assumptions of who we see. instead of claiming those assumptions are facts, suspend them, have a race consultation. let people self-disclose to you who they are. your assumption might be wrong. lady in new york city said african-american man was harassing me or whatever because didn't have dog on a leash. he was harvard grad. she saw one thing, had it wrong. we have to listen to people, learn from people, get to love them. >> pastor myles mcpherson, wow, this confirmed that instagram is worthwhile. appreciate you reaching out. >> appreciate you responding. >> would love to come to a

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in minneapolis, demonstrators are calling for removal of the police union chief, lieutenant bob cole. one of the few people defending the officers involved in mr. floyd's death and wants them to fight for their jobs. in letter printed by star tribune said they were terminated without due process. protesters saying for real change he should turn in his badge. >> reporter: bob crowell always had hard-nosed approach to police, warrior style training, use more force. when the mayor banned such training, crowell began offering it to every officer who wants

it. also accused of excessive force and racist remarks. was suspended nearly three weeks in 2004 after he and another off-duty police officer allegedly kicked a man for brushing against his car in backpack. has harsh words for black lives matter. >> i don't see black lives matter as voice for black community in minneapolis. real black leaders tell you this is a terrorist organization with false narratives. >> reporter: lawsuit brought by five minneapolis police officers suggest racism in the ranks, referred to keith ellison as a terrorist. he's a black muslim. accused of wearing a motorcycle jacket with white power patch on it.

denied the allegations and settled. crowell found a supporter in the white house. >> the obama administration and handcuffing and oppression of police was despicable. the first thing president trump did when he took office was turn that around, got rid of the holder/loretta lynch regime and started letting the cops do their jobs, putting handcuffs on the criminals instead of us. >> reporter: review of his time on the force revealed at least 20 internal affairs complaints against him, including excessive force, wrongful arrests. three complaints ended in disciplinary action. crowell told the paper he's not a racist or the boogie man some have made him out to be.

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the maryland national capital park police are asking for help. cyclist was caught on video assaulting group of people, including children, putting up black lives matter flyers. >> hey, leave her alone.

>> do not touch her. do not touch her! she has nothing, do not touch her, sir. >> leave her alone. sir, just walk away. hey! >> get off her. >> on monday park police say the suspect is 50 to 60 years old, clearly a white guy waddling around in biking cleats. 6 feet, short brown hair. man who recorded the video has been back on the trail, putting up more signs and others have offered to help him. jerk. hand over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> what a world. they're going to find him. >> of course. it's not a big pool of people like him. >> going to find him and interesting part will be who starts to explain this as something other than what it obviously is.