hello and welcome to "cnn newsroom." i'm michael holmes. welcome, everyone. as protests against racism and police brutality entered their 13th day across the united states, the focus has shifted to the changes that need to come next. demonstrations were largely peaceful over the weekend in major cities like new york, chicago, philadelphia, atlanta, all lifting curfews. and now the many protesters chanting "black lives matter" also have a new rallying cry, "defund the police." meanwhile, president trump announced he's ordered the

national guard to begin withdrawing from washington, but warned they could return quickly, if needed. senator mitt romney marching in washington to support the black lives matter movement. he's believed to be the first republican senator to do so. and the protests aren't just in the u.s. >> black lives matter. black lives matter. black lives matter. >> tens of thousands of people jamming the streets of london on sunday and there were protests elsewhere around the globe as well, including rome, madrid, sydney, hong kong. in cities across the u.s., protests stayed orderly and organized with unified calls to end racism and to hold police officers accountable. we'll take you to los angeles. but first to an energetic crowd in new york city. >> greetings from williamsburg, brooklyn, where a massive protest of about 4,000 to 5,000 people is just breaking up in a community known for the strong hasidic jewish population here.

a very diverse, again, very peaceful crowd, but listen to police scanners all throughout the day where the word "orderly" was repeated again and again and again, thankfully, and as a result of several days of really peaceful nonviolent protests, mayor de blasio listfted the curfew in new york city a day early, 100 days after the first coronavirus case was confirmed. the first phase of reopening america's biggest city is under way. about 400,000 people are expected to go back to work, and it will be interesting to see what that does to the momentum of these protests as people slowly get back to work. the cries for police reform seem to be having some effect. after depending the nypd for a week and a half, both the governor and the mayor now are behind police reform bills, including bill de blasio's pledge for for the first time take money away from nypd, part

of the defund the police movement that seems to be sweeping the country. they get about $6 billion a year, which is more than the money that's spent on youth development, health services, homelessness combined. and people argue that if you take some of the money from nypd and give it to social programs it might alleviate all this anger and pressure that's been building up over generations. it's not that long ago when stop and frisk was the rule of the day here in new york city and when it showed a disproportionate of young black men were being stopped, michael bloomberg had to apologize for that policy when he ran for president. standing in the way of that progress is the police union. here in other cities hugely powerful to protect their own, the thin blue line that they see. and what's interesting, a university of chicago study a few years back found that when a department unionizes, citizens' complaints go up by almost 30%.

so that will be a political loggerheads going forward. as far as the righteous anger that's fueled so many people from all walks of life to take to the streets after two weeks, another peaceful night. and for that everyone is thankful. i'm bill weir, cnn, williamsburg, brooklyn. >> reporter: so, in los angeles a car caravan rally. they drove from compton to los angeles police department headquarters. and they made their point clear. if you look at this sign right here, "no justice, no peace". "we demand justice for george floyd, for breonna taylor and for all victims of police brutality." now, one of the points one of the organizers of this rally, not only do they want to stop police violence, but by allowing it to be a car rally. -- "black lives matter" this

reads, some older people who aren't able to march ten miles were able to participate. let's hear from the organizer. >> we're here to stop police terrorism. we want to stop police terrorism because this is nothing new. we want people that are watching to know that protesting is great, marching is great, but it's not enough. we have to organize every day year round. >> reporter: and there you have it, a symphony of car horns right in front of lapd headquarters in los angeles. we counted hundreds and hundreds of cars that made that ten-mile trek from compton as part of this protest. reporting in los angeles, i'm paul vercammen, now back to you. >> jasmine cannic is a political strategist. she joins us now from los angeles. great, great to see you. i mean, these protests have been remarkable and global, but i guess the challenge is not allowing that momentum to fade, not allowing, you know, george floyd to be another name on a list until the next incident.

how do you do that? what is the endgame? >> right. so the endgame is that in america we have only got any real change around human and civil rights through two methods, either a court ruling or through legislation. so i think the challenge is going to be for all of the people that are concerned about police brutality and police killings is how do you change the law, right? how do you get an independent prosecutor so bonnie isn't investigating clyde? which means the d.a.'s office, that depends on the police and the sheriff, aren't investigating these situations. in california the only way we can get an independent prosecutor is to go through state law. and so it will be interesting to see if these groups can work on getting independent prosecutors as well as getting rid of qualified immunity. which is the law that -- well, it's not really a law, but it's a thing that judges go by that basically police officers can't be sued in civil court. >> right. you know, one thing that is

interesting, and i didn't know this until the other day, is there are nearly 18,000 police agencies in the country. which kind of makes uniform reform difficult. you know, i think that, you know, as you said, bonnie cannot be charged with investigating clyde. you would like to see an independent prosecutor's office. what would that look like? >> well, we need an independent prosecutor's office in every single state. and what that looks like is that you have an independent prosecutor that's appointed, but not one that's appointed by any elected official who takes police union money or anyone who is influenced by police unions. because that is really who -- who the people who want to see change around law enforcement and criminal justice reform are fighting. they are fighting the police unions. who have a stranglehold on elected officials from coast to coast with their money at all levels of government. so when you talk about having an

independent prosecutor, you have to make sure that that person is not being influenced by the police union or being influenced by anyone who is influenced by the police union, and that can be accomplished in each and every state in this country. and that is exactly what we need. >> the officer now charged over george floyd's death, the former officer chauvin, i mean, he had 17 prior complaints against him, received i think two official reprimands, one verbal. i mean, do you find yourself wondering why he was even on the force? and, you know, how often does that scenario play out or an officer just leaves and goes to a different force, which is pretty easy to do. >> no, that is common. that is not surprising. that happens a lot, particularly here in los angeles, with the lapped a lapd and the sheriff's department. and the reason why they are allowed to have that many instances of misconduct and complaints and keep their jobs is because of the police unions. so we're going back to the police unions. the police unions advocate for

their members. out of all of the labor unions in america, they're the only union that has the optics of fighting to keep their members out of prison and jail. and their money successfully does that for them. and so, again, you know, looking at the endgame, you know, we have to strategize on how we get around police unions. and sometimes that means carrying a ballot measure. sometimes that means working with lawmakers who aren't getting police union money. and getting laws passed to create these independent prosecutors offices in each state. and i'm also very interested in what cory booker is doing in d.c. around getting rid of qualified immunity. >> getting -- getting laws passed, as you know, that require -- that means public pressure, and, you know, you seem to have that momentum at the moment. it was interesting, there was a 2014 poll taken after the deaths of michael brown and eric garner and said that 43% said the killings were the sign of a broader problem. 43%.

today, 74%. a lot of people feel this time is different. do you agree? >> you know, i've seen this happen before. everyone, you know, gets upset. >> yeah. >> and they're in the streets. but i never really see that translate into legislation. i haven't seen that translate into a sustainable change that affects generations to come. we do this watch, rinse and repeat cycle thing, right? so next week there will be a new video, new dead black body, new outrage, new anger. as a strategist i'm always trying to figure out how do we make this type of change that means future generations do not have to put up with this anymore? do not have to deal with it. and i think that's going to be the challenge on not just black lives matter and supporters, their allies, everyone. it's how do we move forward? you know, complaining has never been a strategy. it just has never been one. >> right. >> we have to move forward with legislation.

>> yep. well, hopefully the momentum keeps up. as you say. and that george floyd doesn't become just another one on the list. jasmine cannick in los angeles, really appreciate your time. thanks so much. >> thanks to having me. >> okay. well, congressional democrats are set to introduce a sweeping police reform bill on capitol hill on monday. as the u.s. president donald trump hosts a roundtable not with african-american leaders but with law enforcement. cnn has learned the democrats' bill would make it easier to sue police for bad behavior, establish a national misconduct registry so that fired officers -- and we were just discussing this -- just can't go get a job elsewhere. and ban chokeholds and more things like that. in minneapolis nine members of the city council have committed to start defunding and dismantling the police department and rebuilding it. the council president says she's looking to move to -- move funding to community-based strategies and there is no intent not to have a police

department in the short term. we discussed this very issue here on the program yesterday. in new york, the mayor says funds will be moved from the department to youth and social services. a real push on this whole defunding issue. monday also marks the first court appearance of derek chauvin, the former officer who pinned george floyd to the pavement with a knee to his neck for nearly nine minutes. his charges were upgraded last week from third degree to second-degree murder. which carries a maximum sentence of 40 years in prison in addition to other charges. presidential candidate joe biden is going to meet privately with the family of george floyd in houston on monday. he'll also record a video message for floyd's funeral, which is set for tuesday. people close to biden say he won't be there because he doesn't want to disrupt the service with his secret service detail. well, as the white house continues to defend some of its actions over the last few days, another prominent former

military leader is openly criticizing president trump's handling of the protests after george floyd's death. on sunday former secretary of state general colin powell spoke with cnn's jake tapper about the president's leadership. here's some of what he had to say. >> we have a constitution. and we have to follow that constitution. and the president's drifted away from it. i'm so proud of what these generals and admirals have done and others have done. but, you know, i didn't write a letter because i made my point with respect to trump's performance some four years ago when he was running for office. when i heard some of the things he was saying, it made it clear that i could not possibly vote for this individual. the first thing that troubled me was the whole birther movement. the fact that the president of the united states, president obama, was a black man. that was part of it. i was deeply troubled by the way in which he was going around insulting everybody, insulting gold-star mothers, john mccain,

immigrants, i'm the son of immigrants, insulting anybody who dared to speak against him. that is dangerous for our democracy. it is dangerous for our country. and i think what we're seeing now, those massive protest movements i've seen in my entire life, i think it suggests that the country is getting wise to this and we're not going to put up with it anymore. >> and former defense secretary general mattis said, "donald trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the american people, does not even pretend to try, instead he tries to divide us". it sounds like you agree with that. >> you have to agree with it. i mean, look at what he has done to divide us. forget immigrants, let's put up a fence in mexico. forget this, let's do this. he is insulting us throughout the world. he is being offensive to our allies. he is not taking into account what our foreign policy is and how it's being affected by his actions. >> so what is the white house plan going forward?

as cnn's kristen holmes tells us, this week mr. trump may finally make some attempt at uniting the country with perhaps an address to the nation. >> reporter: the big question is what is the messaging going to be moving forward? now, we first got wind of this speech early on sunday when secretary ben carson was interviewed by jake tapper and was really pressed on president trump's response to the killing of george floyd. in particular, to the president's retweeting of a post that attacked floyd's character. lips to what carson had to say. >> i believe you're going to hearing from the president this week on this topic in some detail. and i would -- i would ask you maybe to reserve judgement until after that time. what will help the nation heal is if we will engage in dialogue together. let's not make the solution be a democrat solution or a republican solution. let's make it be an american solution. >> reporter: now, since then, a senior administration official

has confirmed that this speech is being batted around to both my colleague sarah westwood and i, but the big caveat here is the same one we talk about all the time with this administration, which is that it ultimately comes down to president trump and the message that he wants to send. and it's unclear still if that message is one of unity. if he wants to talk about the tensions that we saw over the weekend. you know, a source that is close to the president, close to the white house, told me that the president actually came out of this weekend feeling bullish. he was really lifted up by those job numbers that we saw on friday. he was also very happy with how peaceful the protests were. he believes, according to this source, that that is a direct correlation to his message of law and order. because he was dominating the streets with all of those law enforcement officers that that's why these protests were peaceful. so you're going to hear him talk about that as well as this message we heard from protesters on defunding the police. as we saw all day on sunday,

president trump tried to continue to link that to joe biden. many officials close to the president believe this is a good idea. they believe this will help them get moderate voters who might not want to go that far. reporting from the white house, kristen holmes, cnn. the editor of "the new york times" editorial page has resigned after publishing a controversial op-ed from a republican senator tom cotton. in that piece, cotton argued military troops could be deployed to help police control the protests over george floyd's death. it was a controversial piece both inside and outside the newsroom. the editor for "the times," james bennett, initially defended running the op-ed, but later said his section was wrong to have published it. brian stelter with more on the backlash. >> first, the paper published an op-ed he wrote several days ago that was titled "send in the troops." he called for a muscular, federal military response to the unrest in major cities.

staffers at "the new york times" in the newsroom and in the opinion section were outraged. they were horrified. they said it was inappropriate to publish an op-ed like that. then "the new york times" eventually agreed. they basically said the story should not -- the op-ed should not have been published at all. an extraordinary change for a newspaper to basically come out and say, hey, we are sorry, we shouldn't have printed that opinion piece. anyway, this caused cotton to attack "the new york times." the editorial painful, james bennett, a towering figure in one of the most important jobs in journalism, the brother of former presidential candidate michael bennet has now resigned. the publisher said it was clear in recent days they needed to make a change. there's been a number of controversies involving bennet and now this is the most recent of them. he is stepping down, clearly under pressure. a woman named kathleen kingsbury is taking over in an acting capacity, but this is after days of basically internal revolt at one of the country's biggest newspapers about what opinions,

about what points of view should be given space in the newspaper. >> brian stelter reporting there. james bennet had been the opinion editor since 2016. he did issue a statement on his resignation. here's part of it. "the journalism of "times" opinion has never mattered more than in this time of crisis at home and around the world, and i've been honored to be part of it. i'm so proud of the work of my colleagues and i have done to focus attention on injustice and threats to freedom". tropical storm cristobal has made landfall in the u.s. just ahead, the storm lashing the gulf coast. a lot of heavy rain. we'll find out where it is headed next. we will have a live report when we come back. ion is more important than ever. for customers 55 and up, we want you to get the value and service you need to stay connected. that's why we have a plan built just for you. saving 50% vs. other carriers with 2 unlimited lines for only $55.

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made landfall in louisiana drenching the gulf coast with heavy rain. wind gusts up to 60 miles an hour. cnn meteorologist derek van dam is in new orleans with the latest on the storm. >> so far this has been a manageable tropical storm for the city of new orleans. a city that is so susceptible to flooding. of course this one has been different because it is against the backdrop of several national emergencies taking place across the country, namely the covid-19 pandemic. we'll call this a trial run for what meteorologists believe and are predicting to be an above average and extremely active atlantic hurricane season. there are still threats going forward for the greater new orleans metropolitan area and across southeastern louisiana and the coastal areas of mississippi, alabama and into the panhandle of florida, namely storm surge threat potential overnight and the potential for flash flooding as well. in the city of new orleans, the sewage and drainage system here

is well over 100 years old and can quickly be taken over by extremely heavy rain. i'm cnn meteorologist derek van dam from new orleans. and we are joined now by cnn meteorologist karen maginnis to bring us the very latest. what are you seeing, karen? >> yes. well, even though it is a weaker system, it is now supporting winds of 45 miles per hour. it is now finished wreaking havoc for the gulf coast, especially from all the way around new orleans and into florida. now, this was never a typical-looking tropical system. its characteristics were far off from what we have ever seen. we had a lot of tropical moisture that made its way over into florida yesterday, but it has absolutely soaked the region all the way from morgan city towards mobile, biloxi and extending into the panhandle. those areas around destin, florida have received just a

copious amount of rainfall. between 4 and 8 inches of precipitation. there could be an additional 3 to 5 inches of rainfall. but as this treks more towards the north, it looks like areas around little rock, memphis and also st. louis, rivers and streams will fill up here over the next several days and the thre flood threat is going to be increasing. still just wringing itself out across the central and lower mississippi river valley. if you can imagine a 300-mile stretch all the way from morgan city, louisiana towards that pensacola, destin beach area, that is the area that has been hit the hardest, those coastal roads, those inland roads, they have been impassable in some cases. you can see on some of the enhanced satellite and rainfall imagery that we did see that soaking precipitation right around panama city, towards

crest view and into mobile, alabama. now, as far as power outages go, because we did see some wind gusts as high as 60 miles an hour, alabama has recorded the most power outages. that's been about 10,000 people just kind of in the wake of this as the bands of precipitation moved onshore. but also louisiana and mississippi power outages reported there as well. and, michael, over the last 24 hours, there were two reported fatalities on grand isle, louisiana associated with tropical storm cristobal. >> karen maginnis there. we're going to take a break. when we come back on "cnn newsroom," u.s. republican senator mitt romney was spotted at a black lives matter demonstration in washington. why he marched with the protesters. that's still to come. also, major demonstrations for racial equality continue outside the u.s. we'll have that too. stay with us. when you say what you're in the mood for,

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♪ welcome back to "cnn newsroom," everyone. i'm michael holmes. nine members of the minneapolis city council say they plan to defund and dismantle the city's police department following the killing of george floyd. the council president says there is enough support to make the move veto-proof. the plan is to shift some police funding toward community-based programs instead. after nearly two weeks of demonstrations, major cities are lifting curfews. several groups of protesters marching through midtown manhattan on sunday. and new york's mayor announcing he will shift an unspecified

amount of police funding to youth and social services. the republican senator mitt romney marched with protesters at a black lives matter demonstration on sunday. as cnn's pete mantin shows us, people in d.c. are continuing to protest very close to the white house. >> reporter: this group in front of the white house is thin, but it doesn't make their message any less poignant. these are the protesters left in the newly-coined black lives matter plaza. at times this group has been quite loud and we know from our crew on the white house lawn that their chants could be heard from the white house and that president trump was home on sunday. i just want to show you a bit more of a quiet and somber moment from earlier on sunday where protesters marched down from dupont circle in the heart of washington, d.c., about 8/10 of a mile, laid down in the middle of the street, put their hands behind their backs and chanted softly "i can't breathe"

for eight minutes in honor of george floyd. we know this is not the only group that has been marching here. a group of evangelicals marched down pennsylvania avenue. with them, utah senator mitt romney, maybe the highest ranking member of the gop to join this black lives matter movement. and here's what he had to say. >> -- to end violence and brutality and to make sure that people understand that black lives matter. >> reporter: this group also marched two miles from here to the u.s. capitol. the united states senate is in session on monday. the house is meeting remotely. and protesters that i've been talking to say meaningful reform also needs to come from lawmakers. cnn, washington. now, these protests over racial injustice and police brutality are spreading to more cities outside of the u.s. cnn's max foster has some of the international reaction and he reports to us from london. >> reporter: tens of thousands again taking to europe's streets.

bigger and noiser thier than la weekend. protesters gathering around the u.s. embassy in london peaceful and upbeat as the same chants go global. sparked by protests in the united states demonstrators have come together across the continent to call for change. the killing of george floyd sparking a global movement against racism. here in london eight minutes of silence as protesters kneel in tribute to floyd. >> as you know, i think this is the best turnout. it's nice to see. no police action, unlike yesterday where horses were running through, gas canisters were thrown. i think it's a lot better atmosphere. the peace officer there is interacting with everyone. >> this is not a trend. this is not a hashtag. we're not here for fashion. we're here to change something. racism cannot be tolerated in our culture, in our society. we need to change this. >> the way that the media is

trying to portray it is people are angry, people are fighting. there is stuff going on that that the media makes it look like we're the ones doing the wrong. we're peaceful. >> reporter: while the british government has urged members of the public not to demonstrate, the uk health secretary expressed his concerns over the lack of social distancing and potential spread of coronavirus. protestors have come out in full force, but many of them wearing masks to limit the spread of the deadly virus. >> sort of upbeat tone, really, to the protest in london today. and buoyed by the fact that more protests are spreading around the uk from here in london. >> reporter: a striking scene in the city of bristol where protesters pulled down a statue of the 17th century slave trader edward culston. and in the evening in london the focus shifted to the capital's political district, westminster, were at times tensions boiled

over as they have done the night before. a sense of fervor which has spread not only across the uk but all over the globe. max foster, cnn, london. we'll take a quick break. when we come back, new zealand now officially coronavirus-free. but jacinda ardern says the fight isn't over yet. we'll be right back.

now, according to john hopkins university, at least 7 million coronavirus infections have now been confirmed all around the world. a growing number of those cases are coming from latin american countries now. most notably brazil, mexico, peru and chile. on sunday all four of them reported a record number of new deaths and infections. but in europe the situation continues to improve somewhat.

italy's daily death toll has fallen once again to just 53 people while spain has confirmed one new death for the third straight day. and in the uk the government is imposing new travel restrictions to try to keep the infection rate down there. starting today, visitors will have to self-isolate for at least 14 days upon arrival. british airways, easy jet and rian air are urging officials to get rid of the rules saying it will further devastate tourism. new zealand reporting zero active coronavirus cases in the whole country for the first time since late february. the country has been praised for its early action and strict measures to battle the virus. in the last hour prime minister jacinda ardern announced the easing of all domestic restrictions. cnn's kristie lu stout joins us now from hong kong to talk more about it. new zealand high marks for how it handled the virus and those actions seem to have paid off. >> absolutely. this is a significant moment.

a moment to celebrate for the 5 million people who call new zealand home as it reports zero active coronavirus cases. the first time since covid-19 first arrived in new zealand on february the 28th. this also follows 17 consecutive days of zero local new infections, and as a result, new zealand and the government has announced its easing its pandemic restrictions to a level one alert, effective midnight tonight. we heard from the prime minister jacinda ardern in a press conference within the last hour. here's what she said. >> new zealanders did something remarkable in our fight to beat covid-19. we united in unprecedented ways to crush the virus. our lockdown was in place 26 days after our first case. today there are no active cases in new zealand. we have tested almost 40,000 people for covid-19 in the past 17 days and none have tested positive. we have no one in hospital for

covid-19 for 12 days. it's been 40 days since the last case of community transmission. 22 days since that person finished their self-isolation. and so today i can announce that cabinet has agreed we will now move to level one. to get our economy fully open again. >> that was prime minister jacinda ardern speaking there, announcing that her country will move to a level one alert system starting midnight tonight. so what does that mean? i mean, that means the end of enforced social distancing in the country. that means workplaces will reopen, schools will reopen. previously there was a ban on social gatherings of more than 100 people in new zealand. that ban is no longer in place. but despite the end of strict social distancing guidelines, there will still be a ban on overseas international travellers from entering the country. in fact, during the press conference jacinda ardern said it's because of the strict border controls, that's the reason why the government can

even considering relaxing these pandemic restrictions. however, there are some exemptions, exemptions for certain overseas international travellers who can demonstrate that they can benefit the economy in new zealand. cnn has just confirmed that the hollywood film director james cameron and his crew, they have been given permission by the new zealand government to enter the country to work on the sequel to the movie "avatar" in a bid to help reboot the economy. back to you. >> fascinating stuff. kristie lu stout in hong kong, appreciate it. now, dr. kent is a cnn medical analyst. joins me now from new york. good to see you again, doctor. >> nice to see you. >> yeah, new york was, of course, the u.s. epicenter. now it is starting to reopen. of course a lot of other places have as well. in a big city like new york, though, are you worried about that or what are your concerns? >> i'm always worried.

i think it's the right time to start the leveling off and almost complete reduction of new cases of hospitalizations make this as good a time as any to start to reopen. my worry is that people will taste the sense of freedom in a certain sense and will overdo it and will start to cut corners. you know, we just have to try and go from there. >> to that point, i mean, this is phase one. i mean, are you worried that phase two and three could come on too quickly? that those have to be spread spaced out. that could be trouble. >> yeah, i mean, even walking around this weekend i saw a lot of people without masks hanging around restaurants that served drinks. if you stand in the sidewalk, you're not supposed to drink them while you're standing

around the sidewalk, but that was going on. so i think even without any loosening of restrictions people have cut some corners. and it was disappointing to see that. but -- >> yeah, no, sorry. i didn't mean to interrupt. you know, it's funny, in my own life, in my own neighborhood around people in my neighborhood, i don't know, i detect a real complacency. it's like people are like this is over. i mean, is that a worry? >> yes. complacency is always the worry. it's easy to motivate everyone when the fire is blazing near you. when the fire's been put out and you have to say, hey, it might stir up again, people might intellectually accept the premise, but nobody has that same fear for their own safety and the safety of their loved ones. >> yeah. >> so i think this is a leap that we're about to make. >> yeah. absolutely.

i mean, people forget there are still 1,000 people dying a day in the u.s. >> yes. >> and 20,000 cases. >> yes. >> that hasn't slowed that much. i mean, new york state, talking about them, they're going to conduct i think it's 35,000 covid-19 tests per day. in new york city. >> yes. >> all protesters eligible to be protested. is that enough in a strategic sense going forward? >> no. i'm someone who thinks that we need to test exponentially more than that. we've been testing in new york city about 25,000 people a day, and that's a good number when you're trying to get the right measurements of an ongoing and now less ongoing outbreak, but we're shifting the strategy now. now we're talking about public health surveillance. not containment but surveillance. and 25,000 is a drop in the bucket. you need to know what's going on in all the corners of the city

with 8.8 million people. and 25,000's not going to -- not going to give you enough information. >> you know, we talked a lot about, you know, the protests and the cdc director said that he fears it could be a seeding event, and there is already talk about bringing back sports, you know, in the u.s., but also around the world. >> yeah. >> several colleges have already reported footballers testing positive. are you worried about that? >> oh, yeah. like i say, you know, my job is to worry. full time. i think that in an odd way professional sports, which is closer to starting than amateur sports, professional sports are gonna lead the way whether or not they realize it. they were the ones, i think in march, who made this pandemic a reality for americans.

the national basketball association cancelled the league. they just cancelled all their games. and then the rest of the professional sports did as well. now, at the other side of it, they're the first ones to try to jump back in. i know that in korea, different country obviously in terms of the response they've made, but they're testing their baseball league players every day. i have read. and they've had the baseball up for weeks now with no particular untoward events, but they are testing left, right and center. i don't know what the american professional sports leagues are planning. i've read that they'll be testing everyone. everyone in their microcosm. once a week. i don't think we can test 8 million americans -- new yorkers once a week, but we need to move

way more than 25,000 if we're going to get away with opening. >> yeah, yeah, exactly. exactly. south koreans have been way ahead on this from the start. dr. kent sepkowitz in new york. doctor and professional worrier, appreciate it. glad you're there doing the worrying for us. >> yes. be well. >> all right. lance armstrong was a hero to millions before his cheating was exposed. a new documentary has been looking at whether he's a changed man. eight years after that fall from grace. we'll have a look when we come back. comes to longevity, who has the highest percentage of its vehicles still on the road today? subaru. when it comes to best overall value, who does intellichoice rank number one? subaru. and when it comes to safety, who has more 2020 iihs top safety pick+ winning vehicles? more than toyota, honda, and hyundai-combined? subaru. it's easy to love a car you can trust. it's easy to love a subaru.

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a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! welcome back. lance armstrong was once on top of the cycling world if not the entire sporting world. his admission he took performance-enhancing drugs put all of that to a crashing halt. now espn documentary entitled "lance" charts his path in full. >> if i was competing today, i could tell you who my peers would be. my peers would be michael phelps, lebron james, so i see

where they are. and so only now do i realize okay, that's where you were, that's where i was. i really don't miss that. ♪ ♪ >> he was untouchable, a force of nature whose fight back from cancer to win seven tour de france titles captured the imagination of the world. it was a legacy built on lies. ringleader of biggest doping conspiracy in cycling history. stripped of titles, reputation in tatters, it's been years since spoken publicly, but in "lance," he's given a platform to try to redeem himself.

>> lance is a complex character who did a lot of good and bad. what i love about the film, he's just there, warts and all. did he give me the gory details of what a lot of people want to know, no, but think you see him in way you haven't before. >> not everyone is buying his version of the truth. betsy andresio who helped discover this and suffered as a result. >> you can't believe everything he says. if a man gains the world but loses his soul, is that okay? he's a lost soul, pretty sad. >> remains a polarizing figure, many asking whether or not that justifies four-hour documentary on man who destroyed lives around him. >> people want to watch drama,

see people fall, suffer, rise up. >> i don't think he to this day realizes the damage he's done to people. i don't really think he cares. i think he missed the aduelation and fawning of the public and media and wanted to get back into good graces. >> you're not going to please everyone but some people want to hear, others no. it's controversial, he's controversial. >> we have a guy who was top of the world and all of a sudden you got to wonder, does he get it? does he really realize what he's done? and i don't think he gets it at all. and think that aspect of it is fascinating to people. >> it's such a big story and think so many people felt so taken by him and his rise and the cancer survival, then to

find out that he lied, i mean it's a once in a lifetime character for me. >> thanks for watching this past hour, i'm michael holmes. i'll have another hour of newsroom comeling up next. - i'm jeff anderson.

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