this afternoon fired minneapolis police officer derek chauvin say peering in court for the first time facing a second-degree murder charge for, of course, kneel on george floyd's neck for those 8:46. also a massive turnout is expected, you're looking at live pictures from houston, in george floyd's hometown. they are in texas for his memorial and public viewing. that is starting and around two hours from now. we'll take you there live. we're also watching the minneapolis city council. the council's president says a majority of members now support de-funding and dismantling the minneapolis police force, setting is up a showdown with the city's mayor who doesn't think the city's mayor who should go that far. let's go to minneapolis where cnn's josh campbell is standing by. josh, first, can you bring everybody up to speed with what we started with off the top which is what is expected in court today as derek chauvin faces a judge. >> yeah, that's right, kate.

this is the first time we'll see former officer derek chauvin. he'll be by video link behind me in one of these courtrooms and this will be one of those appearance, and we're waiting to see if his lawyers signal what his defense will be. this will be a bail hearing, relatively short, but we could get an indication of what that defense might be. we do know when we were in court last week for the other three officers who were charged in this case. two of their attorneys actually pained the finger at chauvin and his seniority saying he was largely responsible for the death of george floyd. we'll wait to see today whether we give some indication of what chauvin's defense might be. there will be some legal experts who looked to the possibility of george floyd resisting during that encounter. we know that under the minneapolis policy that neck restraints are allowed if a suspect is resisting, at least they were until they were just voted against. that's the question. when george floyd was on the ground was he resisting? we remember that dramatic cell

phone video where you see chauvin's knee on his neck and that death being ruled a homicide. we'll see whether or not we get some signal from the defense attorney what his defense will be as he faces these very serious charges. kate? >> absolutely. george, if you could stand by. more for you in just a second but let me bring in cnn's legal analyst and former federal prosecutor for a little bit more on this. as you and i have sat through a lot of appearances, they can be short and limited on what you learn. what are you looking for today in this first appearance? >> reporter: so, part of what we see today, kate, will be nuts and bolts. chauvin will be advised of the charges against him, about his rights to remain silent and his right to an attorney. will we get a what his sentence is. and i think the only defense he has which isn't a good one given the videotape is the event.

everyone can see the physical actions right there on the videotape but the defense argument will be there was no intent to kill or assault. this was a police officer using force that was necessary to get an individual under volley and in custody. that's really hard to square with the 8:46, particularly the last couple of minutes when george floyd is completely unresponsive. >> yeah. >> josh pointed to this as well. last week two of the other officers charged are trying to pin blame on chauvin saying he was a senior officer and he's responsible for what happened. if you see that starting to come out. what do you think of that? >> yeah. this will happen any time you have a multi-defendant case here and here we have four defendants. they will start pointing fingers at one another. that will be the defense. two of it these officers were in their first few days on the job saying they were essentially following the lead of the much more experienced officer chauvin. i think the response to that is

it doesn't matter if you're in the first shift or 1,000th shift once you put the badge on you owe a duty to the public. that will be the response to that defense. >> what are the prosecutors, taking a step down the road, but what do prosecutors need to show for what he's facing right now, a second-degree murder conviction? >> the way this is charged by attorney general keith ellison is very smart. he actually does not need to prove that chauvin intended to kill george floyd. all he needs to do is prove that chauvin intended to assault george floyd and a death resulted. that's a second-degree murder charge that carries a maximum of 40 years in prison and the key question is do chauvin use reasonable force necessary to take george floyd into custody, or did he cross that line and use unreasonable excessive force? >> all of this coming down -- will be coming down the road, but today being the very critical first step of a first appearance before the judge to get this ball rolling, you

mentioned the attorney general keith ellison who is in charge of this case. he has said that despite the video that we now know, that everyone has condemned, a conviction isn't going to be's. why is that? >> he's absolutely right. first of all, no one can ever tell you what a jury will do, 12 regular men and women. hard to get all 12 of them to agree on somebody's guilt, by a reasonable doubt, a very high verdict. throw in the fact that this is a police case. we've seen time and again juries are reluctant to convict police officers. this is a race case, a race element here and the history of racially charged police uses of force is not a good one so keith ellison was wise to manage expectations and was recognizing a reality, that everything here is going to be important but nothing is going to be easy. >> elie, thank you. really appreciate it. >> thanks. let me get back to josh campbell and bring him back now because

there's another major story happening and a new chapter in the response to george floyd's death. the minneapolis city council is vowing to de-fund and dismantle the city's police department, josh. you've talked to the city council president about this. what exactly do they mean by de-fund and dismantle? >> yeah. that's a great question, kate, an as we've been talking about the charges against these four officers, this prosecution is still in its infancy, but the city council is wanting to move ahead immediately with reforms against this police department. as you mentioned, i spoke yesterday with the president of the city council who says that they want to dismantle the police department and rebuild it with some other public safety model. in her words, the police department here is not effectively serving the public. let's listen here to what she told me. >> we committed to dismantling policing as we know it in the city of minneapolis and to rebuild with our community a new model of public safety that

actually keeps our community safe. what i heard from my colleagues today was a commitment to an a acknowledgement that the system is not working and a real commitment to move forward together with our community at the center so listen especially to our black leaders, communities of color for whom policing is not, working and to really let the solutions lie in our community. >> reporter: now there are a lot of unanswered questions here, kate, about what happens next. the city council according to the president there has nine votes, a veto-proof majority. the purview of the police department is actually under the mayor so there are questions about whether the city council actually has authority. i think that that would probably be litigated in the courts but also we haven't got an indication of what have comes next. i asked the president of the city council if she's talking about abolishing all law enforcement in police and she said, no, that's not the case, certainly not in the short term, but, again, the question is you're going to continue to have crime, unfortunately. that won't go away. if but get rid of the police, who will be protecting the public? that's an unanswered question.

right now this is an idea, but we haven't yet seen a plan. we've been asking the questions and will continue to do so, kate. >> also, josh, the mayor has been -- he's been answering questions about it. he says that he does not support wholly abolishing the police department. he does say, he did say again this morning that i believe his terminology was he supports massive structural change and reform though to the police department. are they -- are they saying the same thing? are they more on the same page than they might be saying publicly? >> yeah. so we haven't gotten the details from the city council so we don't know exactly what they are looking at, but their position does seem a little more extreme than where the mayor is. now the mayor was asked outright at a real over the weekend whether he would de-fund the police. he said no. he was actually booed by this crowd as he left that event. now it's also worth pointing out, kate, that he's not alone. just this weekend on cnn's

"state of the union" the chair of the democratic caucus representative karen bass was asked the question earlier about whether we should abolish the police and she said no, i'm not in favor of abolishing. police but she talked about reorganizing funds to other areas of the communities where they can provide certain services. we're talking about certain extremes, some not talking about getting rid of law enforcement. it's a new position and markers set down by the minneapolis city council is the most drastic we've seen so far. still a lot of unanswered questions about what comes next. >> and real changes and reforms to policing is an important conversation that we continue to have this hour, next hour and for the foreseeable future. josh issin the ground for us in minneapolis. thanks, josh. i want to go now to houston, texas, where george floyd will be laid to rest in his hometown tomorrow and two hours from now, friends, family and the public will have a chance to say

good-bye. >> what are you seeing from folks and what are you seeing from folks? >> half an hour going we saw as the hearse was escorted to where what will be george floyd's final resting place. this is the third memorial for george floyd and i can't imagine the heaviness for the family who has had to stand up and help everyone else grieve and get through this. their memorial which will be private, where they are going to be able to say their final good-byes, will be on tuesday, but they have been in city after city, from minneapolis to north carolina and now to houston where he's from. they have been standing and being there for the public. eventually it will be their turn to finally be able to let all of their grief loose in a private memorial. we understand that the vice president joe biden, who is the

presidential candidate, is meeting privately with the family today, and, you know, what that means to people. they don't want this to be political. they want this to be honoring of george floyd in the realest possible way, and so you're going to hear from friends and you're going to hear al sharpton do the eulogy here in houston. he was a -- he was houston's boy from the third ward. he was a guy who was involved in music and rap, known in that area. there's a lot of people who have a lot of things to say about george floyd and what he contributed to them, but right now this is the public's chance here in houston where he grew up to say good-bye to him and then later the families. >> as we've seen the outcry and outpouring of support for his family, for him in the two weeks since this tragedy has happened. now the public will have its

chance to say its final good-bye in houston starting in just a couple of hours. thank you so much. >> coming up still for us, the relationship between the police and the communities they serve of. can that relationship be rebuilt? 30-year police veteran says yes if one rule is followed. they will be our guest. plus, parts of new york city reopening today. the mayor of new york city says it's a triumphant moment. is the city ready? be right back. n better? unlike ordinary memory supplements neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try neuriva for 30 days and see the difference. for spending a perfectly reasonable amount

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e today, house democrats are laying out their first move in response to the death of george floyd in almost two weeks of protest around the country demanding policing reforms. just last hour we saw democratic leaders in the house and senate,

including the congressional black caucus, come together and unveil the legislation that they are putting out today aimed at ending police brutality and aimed at ending policing in america but what exactly does that mean coming from a federal level? cnn's manu raju joins us now. manu, what is is in this bill and where does republican support stand on it? >> we haven't seen any republicans come out in support of this. democrats say they have 200 people who have signed on officially becoming co-sponsors of this legislation. we haven't seen the full list but i can tell you it's very likely to be all democrats backing this at the moment. what this essentially does is imposes national standards on policing, dealing with training to try to prevent racial profiling, including a national database to include information about when an officer might do something problematic that would get reported into a database so an officer who goes to a different jurisdiction they would know what that past history of an individual officer

is but also increases how officers can be held -- can be sued in civil court if an individual's right is violated, allegedly, their constitutional rights. democrats say they want to move through this quickly. nancy pelosi and chuck schucker and the national democratic caucus leaders having this discussion right now, making it clear they want this to move through the house before the fourth of july. >> police brutality is a heartbreaking reality of a system of racial injustice in america. true justice can only be achieved with full comprehensive action. that's what we are doing today. this is a first step. there is more to come. >> democrats will not let this go away, and we will not rest until we achieve real reforms. leader mcconnell, let's have the debate, not just on tv and twitter but on the floor of the united states senate. a divided nation cannot wait for

healing, for solutions. >> now, republicans have said that they don't believe that national standards are the way to go. they think they needs to be done along the local level which is why there has not been republican support for this, but among the other measures included in this big bill is a ban on chokeholds and other uses of force like that, so we'll see how members respond when they start dealing with some of the specifics in this bill, but at the moment, kate, a democratic effort to get to the democratic house but unlikely to get through the republican senate. kate? >> man, thank you so much. our next guest says any new way of policing needs to be built around trust, not fear. she recently wrote in "the washington post" this in part. i served as a police officer for almost 30 years in denver and new york city. i can tell you firsthand that we still have too many officers who subscribe to the belief that specific communities are full of threats to neutralize, not people to serve of and protect. a new way of policing, one based on the consent of the community can never take root in that

poisoned soil. joining me right now is the co-founder for the center for policing equity. thanks so much for being here. >> thank you. >> i said to you in the break, what you wrote in "the washington post" in this piece is really thoughtful. i recommend everyone taking a look at it it, but first and foremost i wanted to ask you your reaction to what house democrats are laying out in this first move. >> well, i think what we're going to be seeing, not just with house democrats but throughout the country, are these initiatives and pushes to get some kind of reform put in place. you know, for me i'm absolutely in agreement that there has to be something that certainly cordons all of us together on a certain set of ideals, the use of support and how do you analyze it and how do you know that officers who is have been fired are still out there trying

to find jobs in other jurisdictions, and i think what's in this bill is is also a start and i think what we also hear is folks are all over the place about what reform should look like. i think we'll have a lot of conversations around it. it's not just happening, you know, federally. >> right. >> but locally as well. >> yeah, and in your piece you also wrote -- you wrote that you served with thousands of honorable police officers and in your experience no one joins the force wanting to take a life but the country is now in this country, tracie, right, and what reforms do you -- i'm not trying to make this. i do not want to oversimplify this because this does need to be a big conversation. >> right, but in your experience in all of your years of experience is there one thing that seems that need to be included in the reforms, either

on the federal levels or that you would like to see in police departments all across the country that would be a part of the solution? >> so, i would say there's lots of things and i can't pinpoint one but i can say there has been and continues to be a reliance on policing dealing with social issues in black communities. when you have law enforcement that are put out into the community to enforce social distancing, when you have police officers responding to folks who are in mental health crisis and when you're responding to people who are homeless and have a number of other issues that are underlying that problem, you are, again, not dealing with the issue. when we talk about and when the conversations around de-funding police and, you know, collapsing or ridding communities of police, a lot of this has to do with the lack of investment in the black community. what we are doing now and what we're hearing and seeing now is

a reckoning of the fact, and so what has to happen is not only do we need to have community at the center of whatever reforms happen. i am one that doesn't really attend to the word reform because i've been in it for so things happen.seen a lot of this is we beyond programmatic pieces here. what the community is asking for structural and wholesale process change, and so the chiefs that we work with and the chiefs that you talk to understand it, but the interesting part about this is that typically the folks that are closest to it, officers on the ground and folks that i've worked, they still don't have an understanding about what's happening here so while we're also dealing with what's the best way to deliver public safety, you also have to begin to address the concerns of the officers inside, and that means those that are trying to do the right thing every day. >> tracie, you mentioned this conversation about de-funning or

dismantling police departments. is that oversimplifying it? i believe that most people do not think that -- in hearing that, they don't necessarily mean they want to do away with law enforcement in their community writ large. are you concerned that that is where the debate is headed though? >> you can tell it's happening on a spectrum in, some communities that have had ongoing experiences, that's what they mean, at least the folks i've talked to, so you're really running a spectrum with this. a lot of folks are talking about do we actually, you know, collapse like minneapolis is trying to do, or is what we're really talking about is redefining what public safety means as opposed to law and order, so i think those are a lot of things in this conversation right now. they run the gamut depending on the city and depending, of course, on how city council and local governments are with that, but i think it's going to be different. i think you'll see different forms of fighting public safety on the other side of this.

>> i also wonder what is the role of police unions here, very -- very powerful unions across the country, how do you work with them to get them on board with wholesale structural change in how policing and how policing is conducted? can you? >> well, i think the one thing we have to keep in mind is the role of unions, especially policing is to protect the right of those officers as well as be collective bargaining unions -- units. the one thing that you can not do is not do this work without the unions. one of the concerns i know folks have is that they have thwarted types of efforts in the past to get things moved or to actually do wholesale change, but you have to understand unions represent a broad swath of policing, and this work is not going to go forward without some type of conversation, some type

of understanding, and that goes back, again, to what i'm saying in regards do unions really understand what's happening here as well as the folks or the officers that they represent? >> your voice is an important one in this. tracie, thank you. >> thank you so much, appreciate it. >> still ahead for us, as new york city begins phase one of its reopening, we're waiting live press conference from new york's governor andrew cuomo. we'll take you there when it begins. attention veterans with va loans.

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we have a constitution, and we somewhere to follow that constitution and the president's drifted away from it. i am so proud of what these generals and admirals have done and others have done, but, you know, i didn't write a letter because i made my point with respect to trump's performance some four years ago when he was running for office, and when i heard some of the things he was saying it made it clear that i could not possibly vote for this individual. >> scathing critique there from retire general and former chairman of the joint chiefs and former secretary of state colin powell. he's now the third former chairman of the joint chiefs rebuking president trump's response to nationwide protests.

powell also told cnn that now as he's looking forward he will be voting for joe biden in november, and that all has clearly gotten under the president's skin. taking to twitter once again to attack colin powell calling him weak, real stiff and overrated are, but powell is not even close to alone here. joint chiefs i mentioned but also this. he is now one of a growing list of military voices condemning the president here. with much more to talk about with this, but i'm going to talk over to new york governor andrew cuomo giving an update on phase one of reopening. >> today i am so glad to see finally come. day 100, day 100 since we had the first coronavirus case in new york. that's when we started counting, day 100. when we first started, all the experts, i talked to all the global experts, people who had

studied this across the world, what's going to happen? where are we going to go? nobody knew. nobody knew if you could control the spread of the virus. nobody knew how fast you could control the spread of the virus, and they all said the same thing. well, it's going to depend on what people do. it's going to depend on what people do. it's going to depend on whether or not people take it seriously, people accept the warnings, people understand the virus, they understand how serious it is, and i am just so proud of how new yorkers have responded. look, i can say this. i'm a born and bred new yorker all my life. we can be a tough crew. and, noers heard the message. new yorkers did what they had to. do they did it with discipline, and if you had told me 100 days ago that we would be reopening when we didn't even know how bad it was going to get, i mean, we

had some dire predictions. remember what those early projection models said, that it would overwhelm our hospital system by doubling the capacity in the hospital system. we had -- we have 50,000 hospital beds in the state of new york. they were projecting we would need over 100,000 hospital beds. it was frightening. but new yorkers did it. new yorkers did it. it's that simple. we said thank you yesterday. we lit up all the city and state landmarks can colors of the state to say thank you because we're not out of the woods but we are on the other side certainly. and that's why we're starting the reopening in new york city. we started it all across the other regions of the state, but i want to thank the people for what they did.

new yorkers always rise to the occasion, always. they rose to the occasion after 9/11. in many ways new yorkers, i think, represent courage and unity and when things are tough new yorkers are tougher and that's what they did here, and i'm so proud to be governor of new york, and i'm so proud to be a new yorker, and i want to say thank you to the people of the state. i also want to thank all the essential workers, the police officers, the firefighters, the health care workers, the nurses, the doctors, everyone who stepped up. you know, if those essential workers hadn't showed up, you would have had total anarchy in society. if the those essential workers said, well, if it's so dangerous i'm going to stay home, too, i'm not going to open the grocery store. i'm not going to open pharmacy. i'm not going to drive the truck to bring the groceries to the grocery store.

i'm not going to drive the train. i'm going to stay home like everyone else. the if they had done that and there was no food, no transportation, you would have seen bedlam. so god bless the essential workers. i would also like to thank my team 100 days. they haven't had a day of a. we've done these briefings every day for 100 days, sometimes twice a day. and it's been hard. it's been emotionally hard. it's been exhausting dealing with the unknown. we've never gone through a period like this. we've gone through a lot. i've gone through a lot but never anything like this, and they did an extraordinary job, and i want to thank them, and i want to thank you guys for talking to me every day for 100 days. the joy of our interaction and our do i log. the joy that i had dealing with

you and the joy you had dealing with me. i think you had more joy. we can discuss that over a beer sometime bum congratulations. we are back. we are back. and not only are we back, but we went from the worst situation in the nation, frankly one of the worst situations on the globe, to not only flattening the curve but to bending the curve. remember we talked about how we had to flatten the curve. that mean we had to stop increase. we didn't -- we didn't just stop the increase. we bent the curve and we brought the spread down dramaticically. you lock apt where the we are today, 100 days later, we are continuing our decline. the rest of the country is still spiking. how remarkable is that? how remarkable is that, so

congratulations to new yorkers. it's also day 15 of the civil unrest after the murder of mr. floyd, and now we're dealing with the two situations simultaneously, and in many ways they both then compound each other, right? it's not just the protests. it's protests happening during the covid situation. we have to deal with both. the protests continued yesterday all across the state. they were by and large peaceful, but the protesters are basically right. it's not just a new york state phenomenon or an american phenomenon. it's happening all across the globe, i mean, it is amazing. watching tomorrow, protests in rome and spain. it's all across the globe, and people are saying enough is enough, and it is -- it is enough. it is enough. it's been the same point over and over and over again. bring reforms to the criminal

justice system. bring reforms to policing. we've seen the same situation happen 20, 30, who times. how many times do you have to see the same situation before you act? and we're going to act in the state of new york in terms of transparency of disciplinary records for police officers, what they call repeal of 50, a. which, by the way, what 50a says is the records of police officers will no longer be exempt from disclosure, so the records of police officers will be like every other public employee, right? they will be like teachers. they will be like csea employees or dc-33 employees in new york city. their records will be available, and if poem made complaints about them, they will be in the record and they will be released. ban chokeholds, we went through it with eric garner. i mean, how many times?

but pass a law that says that. the attorney general, special prosecutor, five years ago i did an executive order that said the attorney general should investigate cases where police kill an unarmed person. why? because a local district attorney, and i have tremendous respect for the district attorneys. i was an assistant district attorney in manhattan, but a district attorney works with that police force day in and day out. how do you expect the public to think that the local district attorney as an arbiter is going to be unbiased? attorney general, statewide elected official who can do the investigation of police misconduct and give the people of the state confidence that it's a fair investigation and banning a false race-baized 9/11 reports. we worked with the legislature over the weekend. i think we have an agreement on

the bills that are going to be introduced. if they pass the bills a we've discussed, i will sign the billsance and i will sign them as soon as they are passed. i want to thank both of them for their leadership. this is a difficult time. people are angry. people are angry on multiple issues around feelings are intense on multiple issues, so in the midst of it you have to find out what's right rather than just what's politically expedient, and i want to praise the senate leader and the assembly leader, the speaker for their leadership, and i hope we have a good productive week this week. but this is not about what an individual state can do. it's actually broader than that. new york state will take this legislative action, and i hope it then becomes a model for other states to follow. we've done that in new york a number of times. we did it with marriage

equality. we did it with free college tuition, raising the minimum wage and new york acts, and then it provides a spur for progressive action by the rest of the country, but this is also bigger than what states can do. what this protest really is about is systemic racism and systemic injustice and systemic inequality. yes, when it comes to policing, but, frankly, it's worse than just policing. it's the fundamental institutions in our society that systematize discrimination. it's the fact we have two education systems, one for the rich and one for the poor, and poor children receive a different education than rich children because there's a gross funding digs parrot. it's the lack of an affordable housing agenda where the federal government just doesn't provide

affordable housing anymore. they used to provide section 8 vouchers and used to call what is called voucher section 8 and they used to provide public housing. that's all stopped. that's all stopped. it's the health care system what, we saw with covid, that you have inequality in the health care system, and the neighborhoods where the covid ravaged are the neighborhoods that had less health care to begin with. that's not a coincidence. that's -- that's the fundamental cause of the injustice, and that's what we should be addressing along with policing issues. and there is a moment to do this. there's a global moment, i certainly a national moment for that change. carpe diem, carpe momentum.

seize the moment, seize the moment. change comes in a moment. when did we pass gun safety? right after sandy hook. why? because people said enough is enough. people are saying enough is enough again. seize the moment and end the systemic injustice and inequality in education, health care, housing, policing, criminal justice. reopening of new york city, we did it all based on data and facts. there was no political ideology at work here. we're talking about a virus. the virus doesn't do democrat or republican, doesn't do liberal or conservative. it's based on facts, and we have followed the facts. you look at where we are now with our testing results. on sunday we did 58,000 tests across the state. we're at 1.2% positive, the lowest level in the state since march 16th. that's a fact.

over the past -- past few days, 58,000 tests we did on sunday. 1.2% statewide. saturday 60,000 tests 1,ment 3, friday, 77,000 tests and 1.4 and thursday 66,000 tests. why are we reopening? because these numbers say that we can. there's no guess. there's no ideology. based on the numbers we can reopen. we are doing more tests than any state in the united states. we're doing more tests than any country on the globe per capita. that's why i have confidence saying to 19 million people we can do this. based on yesterday 58,000 tests. that is a lot of tests. that is a large sample, and i feel confident making a decision on these numbers. now, we can change the numbers, just like we changed the numbers

the first time and reduced them. new yorkers get sloppy. you can see those numbers go back up, because they are purely a function of behavior. you tell me what new yorkers do today. i'll tell you that number tomorrow, and we literally study it on a day-to-day basis. if you look at yesterday's numbers, just yesterday across the state, new york city nine weeks ago, 59% were testing positive. four weeks ago 10% were testing positive. two weeks ago 4% were testing positive and yesterday 2%, just yesterday, and you see the other numbers for the other regions, mid-hudson 1%, long iland 1%, western region 2% and capital region 1%. that's how we're making decisions. the westchester and hudson

valley the valley will enter phase two on tuesday, long iland on wednesday. what does reopening mean? it means companies, businesses can reopen pursuant to specific guidelines. this is not reckless reopening. we know what happens when that is done. this is by the guidelines. construction and manufacturing, wear masks. no congregate meetings, curbside pickups only if inside is not practical, and that has to be with pre-arranged orders. you're just going into a store to pick up an order. that's because you can't do curbside. that's all that is. curbside, obviously in new york city is a different phenomenon than curbside in other markets

with less traffic, but that's what store shopping is. these guidelines work. they have been enacted in every other region in the state. those other regions have entered phase one, followed these guidelines, and there has been no spike. we know that it works if it's followed, so the same guidelines apply to new york city, and if we follow those guidelines in new york city, there should not be a spike, just like there hasn't been a spike across the rest of the state. we're also going to keep a special eye on new york city to see what happens. we'll do 35,000 tests per day in new york city. take a snapshot every day. if you see any increase in the infection rate, then react

immediately, and 35 tests-35,000 tests per day is a healthy snapshot, a healthy sample and then watch it literally every day and calibrate what you're doing. again, i'm asking all the protesters to please get tests. that is a new question that has been dropped into the mix. we had all these at-home measures and then we had thousands of people show up for protests. did that -- did that affect the spread of the virus? we don't know. we don't know. so i'm asking the protesters, please, go get a test it. it's free. it's available, but there is a chance that you were in proximity to people. again, we've gone through this, what we call a super spreader.

one person in a crowd of 100 people can infect dozens. we've seen it. please, we have 15 testing sites in the new york city we are also focusing on the hot spot neighborhoods in new york. these are zip codes where we know there's a much higher infection rate than other parts of the city and it's dramatically high. overall the infection rate in new york city about 19%. some of these communities are over 50%. so we're targeting these hot spots, more testing, more treatment in the hot spots and more awareness. we're also setting up additional testing. thank you very much, northwell health and somos community care. for people in those zip codes to get tested. 240 testing sites alone in new

york city. you can get a test. it doesn't cost anything. and there are 240 sites available so there's no reason not to do it. there's a website where you can go to the website, pumplg nch ir address, find the availability. i'm asking the protesters to get tested and take as a precaution, act as if you have been exposed. and you may want to tell people that, who you're interacting with. stay away from people in a vulnerable population until you take a test and you know that you're not infected. people in those zip codes -- >> we are listening to new york governor andrew cuomo talking about three important things right now. as he started off how he was applauding new yorkers on day 100 from the first confirmed coronavirus case in the state saying we are not out of the woods but on the other side.

that is a certainty. he said that as phase one in new york city is taking place of reopening starting just today. the governor talking about response to the protests that have been happening nationwide and in new york after the death of george floyd in minnesota and talking about the need for policing reforms saying he's ready to sign the bills and laid out the reforms he would like to see and will sign it when they get to him and then talking about where part of the conversation is now, the combination of these two very important things happening in the nation and new fears about what the nationwide protests could mean for the spread of the coronavirus. we have a doctor, what doctors are now advising is 22 states seeing an uptick in cases and we'll talk about all of this after a quick break. tifully,

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as governor cuomo was talking about there's growing concerns of the spread of the coronavirus and the recent protests we have seen for nearly two weeks across the country and what that all means. governor cuomo saying he basically asked a rhetorical question, did the protests have an affect on the spread of the virus? we don't know but the cdc director last week said anyone who marched in from tests should in his view highly consider getting tested. the backdrop for all of this is that the number of confirmed cases in the united states is approaching 2 million. while more than 110,000 people have died from the virus. joining me is dr. lamar hasbrook with the cdc. thank you so much for being with us. from a public health perspective what is your reaction when you see we heard from governor cuomo and his view that we don't know the impact of the protests and the gatherings of the protesters over the last two weeks on the

coronavirus but what's your reaction from a public health standpoint when you see the images of so many people gathering for protests? >> well, i would say that context matters. i would say that each and every day individuals take kind of a risk assessment, a personal risk assessment and balancing their health and safety on one hand with the daily needs and this is why we see folks go out for groceries and gas and get on public transportation, take flights so they're doing this risk assessment every single day and we know that when you look at a hierarchy of needs of food, she shelter and income and breathing at the top of the list as well and the difference to compare it to spring break and the gatherings are that folks are taking an informed and calculated risk and saying that in this case the risk is worth it and i can't say i disagree with them. >> when will we know if protests

led to a spike in one place or another? >> well, you know, it is a little bit to tease out because it's a coming together of a perfect storm. we have the memorial day weekend, a lot of folks being lax and relaxed of precautions during that weekend. and then after that we have been having a backdrop of states reopening and laxing, some laxing of the precautions and things like that. we know there's more testing as the governor cuomo cited and more testing going on as well. so all of that's kind of coming together plus the protesters and the mass gatherings and not able to disaggregate the contribution and we know that even though they're gathering what i see from my eyes is most of those crowds are younger, meaning less than 50 and i know that they're outdoors and not indoors so the transmission rate is going to be somehow decreased that way. i see many of them if not the majority wearing face coverings and i have to believe they're

not actively sick and there's some mitigated factors happening but i think it's hard to tease out what contribution this is making. >> that's a really good interesting point. as of today we have when we look at the count 22 states seeing a rise in new cases. we heard governor cuomo talking about how we're not out of woods. we are on the other side. this is a map we watch every -- week to week to see the direction that states are headed and the trends here is what's really important. florida, for example, saturday the state department of health reported a fifth straight day of more than 1,000 new cases. are we going to -- what do you see in that? there's constant fears, doctor, of a second wave. is this an ebb and a flow? is this a natural progression of the virus or something that concerns you? >> it does concern me. i think what folks have to understand is we have been

successful in squashing the curb and yet those cases to be identified under those curve and prolonged and by flattening it we ensure we don't overwhelm the health system and the capacity that it has but i think this is a flattened curve into the fall and flu season and an overlap of the seasonal flu with this flu and probably see an uptick at that point in time. >> that's why there's so much focus and honest fear of what the fall and the winter season can bring with the combination. thank you so much for being here. i really appreciate it. good to see you. >> thank you. it is 12:00. top of the hour. i'm kate baldwin. thank you for sticking with us. family and friends gathering in houston, texas, to say good-bye to george floyd a. memorial and public viewing will begin with thousands expected to pay respects. the public beginning to gather. this i t