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successful in squashing the curb and yet those cases to be identified under those curve and prolonged and by flattening it we ensure we don't overwhelm the health system and the capacity that it has but i think this is a flattened curve into the fall and flu season and an overlap of the seasonal flu with this flu and probably see an uptick at that point in time. >> that's why there's so much focus and honest fear of what the fall and the winter season can bring with the combination. thank you so much for being here. i really appreciate it. good to see you. >> thank you. it is 12:00. top of the hour. i'm kate baldwin. thank you for sticking with us. family and friends gathering in houston, texas, to say good-bye to george floyd a. memorial and public viewing will begin with thousands expected to pay respects. the public beginning to gather.
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this is the man killed by minneapolis police. there was a memorial in minneapolis just last week. over the weekend a memorial in george floyd's birthplace in north carolina. the funeral will be tomorrow. private funeral in houston. but also this afternoon, we will see the former police officer now charged with killing george floyd in court. fired officer derek chauvin faces second-degree murder and manslaughter charges and facing a church for the jifirst time. in houston sara sidner is standing by. sara, what are you seeing there now? >> reporter: already dozens of people, some who know george floyd, many who don't, have started to line up outside of this church where they're going to be doing the eulogy. that's al sharpton. because of coronavirus, it's a different scenario.
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harder scenario if you will to say good-bye. they're letting about 15 people in at a time. once they are ready to have people enter the sanctuary. i want to give you a look inside the sanctuary. we have cameras posted inside and above the sanctuary. it is a place that seats 3,000 people. but of course, because of the situation that we all find ourselves in with this dangerous virus they are letting a few people in at a time. walking up close to the casket, not able to touch it. distanced a bit, able to say good-byes one by one and then they will be led out of the sanctuary. and this can go on for hours and hours because we are already seeing long lines in the heat of the day. people out here. you see lots of people, different colors. i want to show you a wide, big shot from our truck that is showing the outside of this church and showing the lines of
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folks that have already started to gather here. many of them have shirts on that say i can't breathe. those last words that we heard george floyd utter before he lost his life. we are told by the pr company he will be buried next to his mother who had died years before but he called out his name in his last moments of desperation. a poignant place for him to be laid to rest but he is back home and the sorrow that this has caused so many and lots of families out here, too, trying to teach their children about what this means and what that should mean and that it should mean a change in the way that we are dealing with african-americans in this country and that relationship with police and african-americans. folks here ready to say good-byes and then the family will have a private memorial on tuesday. >> we are seeing the children you were talking about, waiting in line with their families as
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you were saying that in the video. thank you so much for being there. today we will also see the fired minneapolis police officer derek chauvin appear in court. he faces upgraded charges, original third-degree murder charge now second-degree murder. that change was announced last week with the charges against the three other officers involved. cnn's josh campbell in minneapolis following this aspect of it as the first appearance is set to get under way. josh, take us through what is expected and what will be happening today in court, what you are hearing there. >> reporter: yeah. so this is going to be our first look at former officer derek chauvin. he has his first appearance, appearing by video link to a courtroom behind us facing the judge. this is a bail hearing and expect it to be very brief but looking for any indication from his attorney signaling what their defense strategy might be. last week we were inside this courtroom when the three other officers involved that incident
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had their first apoorns apearan two of the attorneys pointed the finger at chauvin saying this is the seen your officer on the scene. he is largely responsible for what happened to george floyd. we'll wait to see what chauvin's attorneys say today if anything. experts tell us a possible defense might be the notion that george floyd was possibly resisting in that encounter. at the time the policy of the minneapolis police department was that officers could use neck restraints if they were facing a resisting subject. people say you were possibly using deadly force which wouldn't be warranted in that situation and waiting to hear from the attorney the direction that defense will go and we'll be in court, kate. >> absolutely. also, josh, the minneapolis city council reacting, the president talking to you and also talking about they are -- they believe they have the votes to move forward to defund the police
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department. dismantle the police department in minneapolis. what kind of time line are they talking about here? because from this conversation have been a lot more questions. >> reporter: that's right. the more questions we ask the more we realize the idea is an idea right now and not a plan. i talked to the president of the city council who said that at this point she has a nine-person veto-proof majority on the city council to dismantle the police department. what happens next? i asked her if she's favor of abolishing law enforcement and she said no but they believe that this police department is so plagued by misbehavior they want to key yate what they call a new model for public safety. a lot of questions about what that will be but we're waiting to hear from them for some actual plan of what comes next.
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>> a guest said this is a conversation, a long conversation to go on amongst communities from the federal government on down to local communities on what policing looks like in america and what public safety means. thank you, josh. for more i want to bring in leslie redman who's a president of the minneapolis naacp. thank you for joining me today. >> of course. thank you for having me. >> what we were talking about with josh campbell, what happens now in minneapolis, there's a huge question. right? the city council president saying they're poised to defund and dismantle the police department. what is your reaction to this? >> first i think we have to acknowledge the root of policing in america which is slave catching. right? that's how the police has been operating for past 400 years when they were terrorizing, brutalizing and murdering black
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bodies without accountability. i'm thankful for the current chief, the first african-american police chief here and the first one to hold officers accountable and thankful for that. i think that we would have to see a reconstruction and a transformation because at this point people are sick and tired of being sick and tired. right? we know that police officers murder and brutalize the black community. what i believe has to happen is alternatives have to be created. we need community policing where community at the forefront. we are hiring young black men and women to police their own communities and then when necessary call upon the police for a specific utilizations of them. >> that is something that you -- i want do get to in a second because that's something you are involved in minneapolis right now. before that, the mayor, he spoke out this morning on this very question of decision
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manhattanli dismantling the police department. >> i am for massive structural and transformational reform to an entire system that has not for generations worked for black and brown people. we have failed them and we need to entirely reshape the system. we need a full-on cultural shift in how the minneapolis police department and police departmented throughout the country function and am i for abolishing the police department? no, i'm not. >> is that where you are, as well? >> i definitely think the mayor's headed in a right direction. we have to realize that the minneapolis police department is not the only form of policing. we have transit, the sheriff office, the state troopers. there needs to be systemic reform and change. we cannot throw the system completely away because there are a number of other systems thinking that they can continue to brutalize black bodies and we
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have to take the difficult more road less traveled and the shorter term of making sure that we are getting this done right and a reason why i say this is the 13th amendment abolished slavery yet black people are enslaved on american soil and i don't want to take the quick rush let's get it done and then not done correctly but plan it out and create systems that are sustainable. >> and one thing that you are involved with, i have been reading about, you are trying already of creating a community alternative to policing with even armed citizen patrols. >> yes. >> talk to me about this. do you think that is the solution? >> 100%. to be honest with you, i didn't know what i was creating when i created it but getting calls from the community about the community being threatened. people see looting but it's
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uprising and there were a lot of professionals coming in our community burning it to the ground. white supremists and different groups of people that didn't want to see the black community thrive and so we said patrol and police and protect our own community. and it's really taken on a life of its own and people disenfranchised are the very people willing to put their lives on the line and stand on the front lines to make sure that the community doesn't burn to the ground and solves a number of problems. they have jobs and opportunities. they have a sense of purpose. and the community is protected. we do everything from giving -- there was an elder that needed a ride home because the tire went out. there are people who need food security and then in addition to them we are armed and protecting the community but it's a holistic form and need people on the ground that know the community, from the community. we need mental health
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specialists and community members and it is a real community and that's what we need to see in america. i think that we call ourselves the minnesota freedom riders and we are on the right track. >> there's a deep history with the freedom riders there as you well name it. >> exactly. >> you alerted the police chief i read of your efforts. but do you invision working with the police department or in place of a police department with something like this? >> 100%. so we have been working very well with the police department. again, i have a tremendous amount of respect for chief arrodondo and why we can do what we do right now and blocked off the street for safety purposes and allowed to be out. i think one of the thing that is will have to evolve into, i wasn't asking permission but giving awareness and a courtesy call and we would have to be equal.
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i don't think it's the police given the community permission to police themselves but have to be a reverse of where the community is actually taking the lead and calling the police when we need them and i work really great with the chief. his police have been pretty well -- even when the national guard come by, they wave. we have had some issues with them. i think as more defunding efforts are coming there may be some police officer who is are upset but overall as a system they have been cooperating with us and i would like to see that grow to the next level of where we are creating something that's sustainable where we can actually hire these black brothers and sisters to police their own community and where the police have a shared respect and i think that it is there because a lot of the time the police have been saying it is great that you all are protecting the community and we can get them out of the community a little bit more and we can be the first responders i think that would be phenomenal. >> leslie, thank you for your time. >> thank you. coming up for us, president
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trump is expected the meet with members of law enforcement today at the white house. we'll talk with a police chief of a major american city, what he'd like to hear from the president. plus, the president is also facing a dropping poll numbers and a stinging attack from colin powell. how he is responding this morning is coming up. ool rush ow claritin cool mint chewables. powerful 24-hour, non-drowsy, allergy relief plus an immediate cooling sensation for your throat. feel the clarity and live claritin clear.
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president trump will be holding a roundtable with law enforcement at the white house later this afternoon. it's a chance for him to push his law and order message and also comes as police chiefs across the country are grappling with how to rebuild trust in their communities right now. joining me is a police chief of sacramento, california, daniel hahn. thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me. >> what do you think can come from the conversation of the president and members of law enforcement today? is there something you would want to tell him, something you would want to put on the table if you were in the room?
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>> yeah. i think that we are dealing with and been dealing with for a long time is not limited to a particular department or particular part of the country. this is nationwide. this is something that's ailed us since the inception of the country and law enforcement is a manifestation of what the issue is in our country, the illness in the country, and so, incidents like george floyd as tragic as they were and as hard as it is to watch something horrific like that is the match that's lit on to the kindling and the kindling is every day interactions. and what ails our country are differences and race and those sort of things that play a part in our every day interactions between law enforcement and community. >> you have a unique perspective on the protests and what is happening in the country now. you have been police chief there for about three years an innocent that time an unarmed black man stephon clark shot multiple times in his grandmother's backyard in 2018 by police that confused a cell
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phone for a handgun and those officers cleared of wrongdoing. what did you learn from that as law enforcement across the country is now facing demands for change? >> yeah. not only have i been chief for three years but i have come up in this department, lived in this city my entire life. i was arrested for assault on an officer when i was 16 and many different ways i have a unique perspective on the city and both similar in one way. and dissimilar in others but the similar way is they are examples of what ails us in our country in terms of people's belief that the police department treats everybody fairly and that it's equitable and we see what happens when these incidents occur that we have protests, we have at times they get violent and it's because people are so frustrated and so angry and they don't feel like anything is changing and so then we see this unrest in our cities. >> look.
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some of the changes called for now in response to this is defunding, dismantling police departments. i was speaking with the head of the naacp in minneapolis who very, very focused on this. for most people, that conversation means reshaping and redirecting funds. yes, for some it means dismantling police departments but when you hear that, calls for dismantling, defunding police departments, what does it mean to you? >> that's a good question because i don't know what it means. i know what defunding means, cutting budgets but i don't know what eliminating a police department means. we are personnel that respond to 175,000 calls a year which is 400-some calls a day. community members calling for assistance. we respond to over 12,000 mental health calls a day and we do a lot of stuff around relationships, implicit bias.
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we have a ton of training in how we integrate community into the police department and the police department into the community. one at a time before they get the uniform on. i would say that the thing i think would absolutely help is there's a lot of calls and a lot of issues in the community that the police department handles that we shouldn't. there's a lot of mental health calls that police officers don't need to be there and homeless type calls we go to that police officers don't need to be there and nobody knows who to call other than us, no other resources to deal with the situation and the fallback is police officers. i think one of the ways to get a lot better is that we get the people that are best suited to respond to some of these things to go there as opposed to police officers and so in the meantime we hire social worker, create a mental health team. for example. a lot of officer-involved shootings involve people in mental health crisis. so i think there's a lot of ways we can improve by getting people
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more equipped, better equipped to provide help and respond opposed to a police officer. >> chief, you kind of pointed to this in something you said just a moment ago about the ills of society and this is a big question now confronting the country. systemic race. in the country and law enforcement. several administration officials just this weekend were asked about this. and over and over from the attorney general to the acting homeland security secretary chad wolf says they do not think that we have a systemic racism problem with law enforcement officers across the country. that is specifically what the dhs secretary said. i want to ask you, do you think there is a systemic problem of racism in law enforcement today? >> i'd answer that this way. i don't know to what extent but
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we have racism, explicit bias, biases in society and whatever we have in society we are going to have in our law enforcement ranks and we do extensive backgrounds and there's absolutely no reason to believe that whatever in society is at least in some proportion in law enforcement. that's why in sacramento we spend so much time on bias training and integrating the community into the police department. we bring a group of brother to brother in to teach at the academy and they have been in prison and can humanize folks and hear real stories and build relationships and they do respond to calls. we might have somebody detained that we think would be better suited for them to help and so we don't take them to jail and we call groups like brother to brother to come get them and we have been working on things like that and -- but i would not ever be naive enough to believe if there's biases and racism in the
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larger society there's no way it can't be in law enforcement. >> first way to begin rooting something out is to call it what it is. chief, thank you very much for coming on. appreciate you time. >> thank you for having me. next, new york city is officially in phase one of reopening. what does that mean for what was the original epicenter of the nationwide outbreak? be right back. we help you make it. you, the independent restaurants of america... we've always got your back, but through all of this... you made it happen. you made our friday nights. you even made us dessert. ♪ so, to help you get back to full strength, we're giving away free re-opening kits at our website so you can safely re-open your doors. for all you do, from all of us, let us help you make it. ♪
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new york city begins its first phase of reopening today. a huge step for the city that was the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak in the country. here is what mayor bill deblasio said about this today. >> this is a triumphant moment for new yorkers who fought back against this disease. this was the epicenter and folks did the hard work, they sheltered in place. they did the social distancing, the face coverings and my message is stick to it. >> but now 100 days to the day after the first confirmed coronavirus case in new york it's still going to be a slow return. today nonessential workers in construction, manufacturing will be allowed back to work. retail stores will be allowed to open for curbside service for in-store pickup. joining me is a councilman.
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thank you so much for being here. is today a day to celebrate? >> this is an important step forward. it is an incremental step on our road back to reopening the economy. but i want to emphasize that while new yorkers might be ready to be done with this pandemic, the pandemic is not done with us yet. we are still averaging about 500 cases per day of newly diagnosed new yorkers with covid-19. the virus is still here, it is still circulating and we have to take precautions. we want new yorkers to understand that this step forward is being done cautiously and that we're going to continue to watch the health numbers like a hawk and that further reopenings can only happen if we continue to make progress in beating back the spread of this virus. >> governor cuomo made it very clear today that there is going to be a special focus. they will be keeping their eye closely on new york city to see
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any spikes in the data. what is your biggest concern then as the city now makes these moves? you have been very outspoken about the talk of possible outbreaks from protest gatherings. >> we have a massive case of quarantine fatigue in this city. the weather's getting warmer. folks have been protesting, a right i strongly support because of the stakes and the fight against systemic racism and policing and society at large. our job as public health leaders to help people understand the risk and do what they can to limit it. and we do understand that open air environments are less risky than indoors. we do understand that wearing a mask does provide protection. but we don't want people to entirely let their guard down. we need more people going in for testing. that's the way we're going to track this. we started contact tracing in new york. unfortunately i don't think a
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lot of new yorkers know that but we need people to answer the call. if they get a positive test, talk to the contact tracer. you have to recount who you have been in touch with. this is the kind of important health infrastructure we need in place to protect us as we reopen, while we still have, again, 500 new cases diagnosed every single day. >> yeah. as this is all happening there is an important conversation going on about policing in america. and new york city is front and center and part of this, as well. minneapolis, we are hearing from council members there are moving to defund their police department. you spoken out about cutting the nypd's $6 billion budget. what do you want to do with the money? >> look. there's going to have to be dramatic changing in policing in new york city because of years and decades of police brutality and frankly because of unacceptable and reprehencible
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acts at times violent to peaceful protesters and will have to include moving money out of the nypd where it's needed into youth programs, health programs, affordable housing. we will have to take money out of the nypd for the good of this city and ultimately to make us safer by investing in young people and health and other things to be a healthy society in new york. >> an important conversation about what public safety actually looks like and should look like now. mark, thank you for coming on. >> thank you, kate. president trump looking at a slumping approval rating and as the country boiling over with -- dealing with a boiling point over race relations and the coronavirus. what a new cnn poll is finding next. when you shop with wayfair, you spend less
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a new cnn poll out this morning shows the president's approval rating is dropping. just one month down 7 points. 38% of americans saying that they prove of the job that trump is doing, overall right now, 57% disapproving. coming to race relations in the country a clear majority as you can see that they disapprove of how trump is handling the issue. let's get to cnn's katelyn collins with much more because there's a lot in the numbers that are important and you know that the president and the team watch the polls very closely. what are they seeing here? >> reporter: they just met on
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thursday in the oval office showing that biden is beating the president in key state that is he needs in november so this is not going to be a welcomed poll for them. we know that the president is already pushing back on it saying any negative polls he thinks are fake news and this morning saying that the media does not cover the positive aspects of the administration and believe this s that's part poll numbers and not just that he's behind biden but one number that stuck out to me was 65% of people say that they believe the way that the president has handled the outrage and the unrest over george floyd's death has done more harm than good. that is, of course, not what the white house is going for but that's the result of when the president comes out like last monday with the blowback of the photo-op in front of the church and not the numbers they're hoping to have going into november. of course, because they know
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they want the president not just to maintain the base but also to go after those independent voters. >> 26% of those polled saying that how the president has reacted has been helpful, only 26%. and that goes to -- i think that's an important context to the new reporting that there is a mounting pressure for the president to formally address the nation on race, on unity this week. honestly, what's the likelihood that's going to happen? what are you hearing? >> reporter: it's unclear. we know that last week when the president made that address condemning the rioting, several advisers saying that if you don't do something to quell the violence happening across the nation you're going to lose in november. it was a pretty blunt message and played a role in the response after that wanting to be portrayed adds the law and order candidate but now other aids saying you need to talk
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about why these people are protesting and address that and do something to bring the country together. that still is appeal that's made inside the white house after, of course, the backlash of what happened. it is unclear if that will happen and if the president does make the message this point, do people buy it? how do people respond to that? of course the president has before said something on teleprompter and then taking questions from reporters you see a different response. >> yeah. just look at the last three years for that. kaitlan, thanks. as texas reopens, coronavirus cases in dallas are on the rise. could the city be facing a possible spike? a second wave? the mayor of dallas joins us next. tide pods child-guard pack helps keep your laundry pacs in a safe place and your child safer. to close, twist until it clicks. tide pods child-guard packaging. - [female vo] restaurants are our family. the cornerstone of our communities.
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in dallas, a sudden rise in coronavirus cases has some experts and leaders concerned about what this means, a possible second wave, over the last week dallas county reported a series of record high daily cases of covid-19. joining me now is mayor of dallas erik johnson. thank you for being here. you have the cases ticking up in dallas county. what is behind it? >> i think it could be a lag in the data and what we are seeing from the decisions that were made a few weeks ago to start reopening our economy. i think no matter where you
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stood on whether we should or shouldn't and how to reopen the economy i think everyone understood once people started to go out more, once you started to go to bars again, once you start to go to gyms again and do those things people interact more and will have the possibility of more spread of the disease. so what we are seeing now is possibly just a lag in the data in terms of the decisions that were made a few weeks ago. >> so, mayor, do you think you reopened too soon? where are you on this? because the question is, if it's a lag in the data, do you have your arms around it now so in two weeks from now it shows that you can contact trace, test, track down those to quarantine and isolate all of the systems in place that everyone said that when you reopen you need to be ready? >> my job is not to second guess the decisions made. i refuse to do that. my job to look forward and make
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sure that the city of dallas is prepared for whatever happens. i'm making sure in dallas that we have the testing and contact tracing we need and working with the county and does the health work here locally to make sure that those things happen. i'm a little concerned about what may have accelerated spread and that is some of the lack of distancing occurred in the past week of protests we have had in dallas. folks were wearing masks but some weren't and some trying to be distant and some weren't so we have to make sure that those folks get tested and if we find out folks are carrying the virus to get those folks quarantined and do the things we were doing before a week ago so that's my priority. not looking back and questioning
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whether or not we should or shouldn't be making sure we're safe going forward. >> that is something we hear from a lot of state officials to the cdc that with these protests taking place across the country the need for getting tested for those who are protesting is certainly high and certainly important. this weekend the protests were largely peaceful. last weekend, though, was a different story around the country including in dallas. i was reading about a protester, mayor, who's now recovering from losing his eye saying hear was t by a rubber bullet. are you calling for changes in your police department? >> i'm looking for answers from our law enforcement leadership in the city, from the police chief and the city manager right noy. i'm trying to get to the bottom right now on what happened, not just in the incidents early on in our protests. the protests early on and continue to be largely peaceful but early on we had a couple of
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folks who came out with the intent of causing trouble and they were looting but i want to understand how we used force in the situation and the decisions to use rubber or wooden bullets or tear gas or smoke or whatever the things we are hearing from the public were used on peaceful protesters on june 1st, on the margaret hunt hill bridge in our city and before that in the week during the more violent or nonpeaceful situations. we need to understand all of it and i'm calling for us to as a city to look those uses of force and understand what we have been doing this past week. i'm also interested in making sure that any reforms that we discuss in going forward in the city of dallas have input from the people. i have signed on to the obama mayor's pledge to look into these practices in our police
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department and i'm committing to bringing about change in the people's input and need to have those discussions. >> one city council is minneapolis city council that's outspoken and poised to move to defund and dismantle the police department. that's where the conversation is right now. would you support defunding the dallas police department? >> oftentimes -- i've been a legislator for ten years and i understand that policy and legislation is a lot more complicated than can be reduced to a couple words or phrases. i don't know what people mean by defund and dismantle but i will tell you this. i believe that in the city of dallas we need to have a robust conversation about the police and about the relationship between the police and the community and about the use of force. and the city council needs to be involved that decision and the
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people need to be at the table as part of that decision and we need to proceed from there but i don't believe that we can do without a police force so if by dismantle we mean not have the police exist anymore i do not support that and by defund i'm not sure what people mean but i think the budget process coming up we need to look at every department and we need to look at every part of the city and determine whether or not we are adequately spending on social services and that's something to do as a council with people's input. >> mayor johnson, thank you for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >> appreciate it. coming up for us still, president trump is going after nfl commissioner roger goodell after the statement of supporting player's right to peacefully protest.
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as athletes, coaches and teams using the plat forms to call for change, president trump is once again trying to resurrect an old debate and insert himself in a conversation again. athletes silently protesting in
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the national anthem. the president going after nfl commissioner goodell's new statement of support of players to protest. cnn's andy shoals is following this and joining me now. good to see you. we have seen massive protests bringing back this conversation, this debate. what is this going to look like this time? >> reporter: kate, you know what? when the nfl season rolls around i fully expect players to peacefully protest once the games do start. last time president trump inserted himself into this debate was back in 2017. remember colin kaepernick started the kneeling trend and some players carried on the movement and president trump early on in the season said owners should fire the players kneeling and it was right after that he said that, that players around the league in a show of solidarity many took a knee that sunday before their games. and i fully expect something like that to happen when this
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nfl season rolls around and some players are saying that they will be doing. runningback of the washington redskins peterson said we're getting ready to take a knee together going into the season without a doubt. we have to put the effort in as a group collectively. playing football is going to help us save lives and change things. and with players saying things like that, kate, commissioner goodell saying they were wrong when they tried to silence the players, they did come up with some rules after that about players kneeling in the national anthem and stepped away from that and the league saying they were wrong in the situation. players saying they will do it and i expect it to happen. >> real quick, andy, news of major league baseball restarting. >> reporter: well, yeah, according to espn sources saying the owners with a new proposal and saying 76 games and the players get 75% of prorated
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salaries. last week players proposed 114 games and full salary. it seems like they're far apart on a deal but they said they wanted to try to start july 4th or that week. doesn't seem realstic at this point. >> thank you. thank you all so much for joining us. brianna keilar continues our coverage right now. i'm brianna keilar and welcoming viewers here in the u.s. and around the world. the public visitation for george floyd has just begun in houston where the city is expecting thousands of mourners to pay their respects to the unarmed black man who was killed at the hands of police. his death exactly two weeks ago today sparked nation wise protests and calls for changes in police departments around the country. sara sidner is at the memorial
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