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realizing they need to keep in-voting a viable option. many, many voters you see from the lines want to be able to vote in person. >> tired for calls of investigation after the fact. it's their jobs to get it right beforehand, on the way in. thank you so much for being on top of it. thank you all so much for joining us. i'm kate bolduan. brianna keilar picks up our coverage right now. i'm brianna keilar and i welcome you here in the u.s. and around the world. this is cnn special live coverage of two crises in america. the first after weeks of nationwide protests against police brutality and racism and growing calls to defund law enforcement, the police department at the center of george floyd's death announcing big changes. last hour minneapolis police chief arredondo announced he will immediately withdraw the department's contract negotiations with its police union. and he will implement an early
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warning system to identify signs of officer misconduct. >> so for the first time in the histories of policing, we here in minneapolis will have an opportunity to use realtime data and automation to intervene with officers engaged in problematic behavior. >> our lucy cavanaugh was there at the news conference. head to her in minneapolis. lucy, the chief was passionate at times talking about growing up in the city and how this is intertwined. give us more why the changes are happening now. >> reporter: brianna, he's the 53rd chief of police here in minneapolis, but the first black person to serve in that position. there's obviously been a lot of pressure within the city and also nationwide. he's found himself in this harsh spotlight mostly over a white police department that killed a
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black person. he spoke passionately and refused to eveningen mention the name of derek chauvin, the former police officer charged in the killing of george floyd and talked about the deep-seeded issue of racism within the police force. take ap listen. >> race is inextricably a part of the american policing system. we will never evolve in this profession if we do not address it head-on. communities of color have paid the heaviest of costs, and that is with their lives. and our children must be safeguarded from ever having to contribute to the horrific and shameful chapter of this country's history. my plan will focus on imperative and respected community collaboration with an emphasis on the science of justice.
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>> reporter: he said he will release more details about how they're actually going to try to deal with these systemic changes. it's not going to be easy, but on point of the first reform he brought up, this idea of effective today, ceasing to negotiate with the police unit on contracts he says this wasn't about money or wages or salaries. this is about trying to address things like the role the supervisors play in responding to calls. the difficulty he has, for example, in dismissing an officer when there's due cause to dismiss and officer, because they then have to negotiate with a third party and auv that officer ends up being back on the streets or with the police department. he's trying to do what he can to shift the system, so to speak, but in terms of how effective this will be only time will tell. >> and so many of those issues are exactly what other police departments are dealing with as well. thank you for that important story from minneapolis. george floyd's 6-year-old daughter said her daddy changed the world. well, he certainly changed the country, and the world, as you've been looking.
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just 16 days since george floyd's death, and police reform proposals are being unveiled around the u.s. three states and at least 11 cities have banned police chokeholds or are in the process of writing laws to end them. plus republicans and democrats in congress are working on federal legislation of their own to fix policing. it is a testament to the power of these nationwide protests. last week republicans dismissed the idea of a legislative response at all. now, they have the broad outlines of their own proposal. george floyd's brother was up on capitol hill earlier today pleading that lawmakers not fail his family and the tens of thousands of americans demanding an end to the police killings of unarmed african-americans. listen. >> the man who took his life, who suffocated him for 8:46, he still called him sir as he begged for his life. i can't tell you the kind of
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pain you feel when you watch something like this. when you watch your big brother, who you looked up to your whole entire life die, die begging for his mom? i'm tired. i'm tired of pain. the pain you feel when you watch something like that. when you watch your big brother, who you looked up to for your whole life die, die begging for his mom? i'm here to ask you to make it stop. stop the pain. stop us from being tired. george called for help, and he was ignored. please, listen to the calls i'm making to you now. to the calls of our family and the calls ringing out across the streets across the world. people of all backgrounds, genders and races have come together to demand change. honor them. honor george, and make the necessary changes that make law
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enforcement the solution, and not the problem. hold them accountable when they do something wrong. teach them what it means to treat people with empathy and respect. teach them what necessary force is. teach them that deadly force should be used rarely and only when life is at risk. george wasn't hurting anyone that day. he didn't deserve to die over $20. >> cnn's senior congressional correspondent manu raju joins us live from capitol hill. manu, tell us what happened in this house judiciary hearing we saw george floyd's brother testifying? >> reporter: an emotional moment that kicked off this hearing. we heard opening statements from witnesses across the board representing different aspects of this debate from civil rights activists to people representing federal law enforcement, people who suffered injustice from the hands of police, raising concerns about, making calls for
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action by congress. now, the next round we'll see democrats and republicans ask questions of these witnesses. this is going to set the stage for a fast-moving debate in the house. judiciary committee's expected to vote on the democratic proposal next week. the full house, the week after. this comes as republicans in the senate are moving on their own bill. it's different markedly from the democratic bill, but they initially had thought mostly it was a local issue, not a federal issue. in light of the unrest seen in the country and aftermath of george floyd's death republicans changed their approach and are floating a discussion draft. their planned aimed as incentivizing states to take action including to push states to outlaw things like chokeholds. that is something democrats want to ban on a federal level. one flashpoint, and the senate judiciary chairman lindsey graham explained to me they don't believe they need to do that on a federal level. incentivize states to take that action. the types of disagreements they
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have to iron out and remains to be seen what the president gets behind. we have word here the president may get behind some sort of executive action on police reform. we'll see what that says and see what he ultimately embraces here up on capitol hill. brianna? >> let's talk about how these protests and the pandemic could be impacting the november election. you're actually hearing worries from republicans that the president is losing ground to joe biden. >> reporter: that's right. concerns from republicans seeing the same polls we are. poll after poll has shown the president's political standings is slipping, falling behind joe biden. the so-called generic ballot, which tests whether voters prefer democrats or republicans to coal congress. favoring democrats by a healthy margin. talking to republicans on capitol hill, they believe things, the president needs to right the ship. they're disagreeing how he should do exactly that. one prevailing sentiment, brianna, is concerns about the president's tweets. consistently putting them in difficult spots like we saw his tweet from about the buffalo
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protester yesterday, the baseless charge about that protesters who was injured by police, one republican, lindsey graham, saying moments ago it wasn't helpful. does not advance the cause of this president. the concerns are real from republicans who hope that the economy rebounds, that they believe could help the chances, but at the moment looking at the down ticket impacts and should node, majority leader mitch mcconnell of the senate met with the president today to discuss senate races according to a source. brianna? >> all right. manu raju, live from capitol hill, thank you. with me now is mark plaqueston, director of the black law enforcement alliance and retired nypd detective. mark, thanks for being with us. we know part of the defense strategy for two of the officers charged with aiding and abetting in floyd's murder is that they were very new to the job. listen to what chief arredondo of minneapolis p.d. said about that. >> the policies that i put out
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for our department, those policies are not guided in years of service. i don't put policies out to say that you should only react or respond if you're a two-year member or five-year member or a ten-year member. and if policies were subcultured, if they get in the way, then i expect and i demand humanity to rise above that. >> mark what did you think about that? >> very impactful, and very clear and concise. and it's a, it's a valid explanation of the succession of police management, and what the chief, chief arredondo clearly indicated, once you take that oath, assume the responsibilities and the burdens of a law enforcement professional in his agency and should be the same in other agencies that everything comes with it. all of the understanding that
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you should have, you've been exposed to certain rules and regulations. you know what you have to do. and even beyond that. there's a, an obligation to really show some humanity and compassion and empathy. but he made it quite clear. day one or year 22, you have the same obligation as a professionalpolice officer. >> there's a number of reasons that experts point to difficulty in holding police accountable in situations it seems just reasonably they should be and one of those has to do with police unions. and the chief said that he's immediately withdrawing from contract negotiations with the minneapolis police federation. that's the police union there. what does that mean? what's the impact going to be? >> it's a potential to sending a widespread nationwide precedent. listen, quite clearly, chief arredondo and minneapolis, city
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government, has concerns that they want to remove the police unions if issues involving operational control and management control. they don't necessarily want to remove the union from add swring on behalf of health and pension inures. clearly they would no longer accept the union's setting the standards, establishing protocol how to deal with issues and concerns that may impact the operation of the department. additionally, what chief arredondo indicated is that he's going to be, really, using analytics to determine and make some management operational decisions. he's going to also be able to use the same analytics, the same internal management system, to identify earlier individuals who may be operating under the color of law in your agency who present challenges and issues moving forward. there's been conversation about the pride history of one or more
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officers involved in the death of george floyd, and i think chief arredondo quite clearly indicated he's going to use whatever is necessary in this particular case analytics to be able to identify earlier and address those potential issues with, to what individuals, in the agency early. so to prevent tragedies from occurs. >> can i ask you about those analytics? are you tries edsurprised they been used sooner? i think of other behaviors, whether it's law that is written in order to put in place protections, say, for domestic violence? there is a knowledge about patterns of behavior that need to be stopped at an early stage so that it doesn't get farther. why is it only now that that information isn't being used to
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have a good prediction of -- you know, which police officers might be especially at riskfor these terrible situations? >> well, there are agencies across the country. usually the large agencies, who have been using the analytics to determine, or be predictive about the possibility of issues with particular officers. and they've been using it for a long time. i think the -- the advent of cops that encouraged departments to use computer and data analytics as a way of providing the best possible operations, and management of your department, i think in the case of minneapolis, perhaps the resources weren't, wasn't there. perhaps the commitment wasn't there. perhaps they've been exposed to this idea of concept now and had decided it would be very useful in the case of managing the
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officers in the department. but it's been the analytics and predictive policing using data as, it's been a phenomenon many years. luke i said, primarily focused in larger departments. that's one of those things where you can look at and hope that any police reform movement incorporates on a national level, on a universal level, the use of data and analytics to engage not only in predicting crime patterns but predicting some human resources issues that you may have in your very department. >> marq, thank you. thanks for coming on. >> thank you. more ceos under for for comments about race including the head of crossfit who made a dramatic move. plus, it's one of the longest running shows on television, but "cops" suddenly is canceled. a new scrutiny on police. i will speak with someone who researched the show extensively
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sheriff deputies gbegan to chas him after he failed to dim his headlights. pursuit lasted 22 minutes and ended when ambler crashed his car. in an interview with ambler's parents say they are just learning the details of his death, almost 15 months after it happened. >> this is the first time we have some kind of information as to how the incident happened, because every time they wouldn't even allow us to go identify the body in the morgue. i saw my son the day of the funeral. that's when i was able to see my son's body. my sister was showing me what had happened with floyd's video, and when i saw that video, i didn't even finish watching it. because right away, soon as i saw that, i just pictured my son in ta situation. in that situation. i asked her, i said, please, turn it off. shut it off. because i, at the time i didn't even know what the video, whatever, it was like. but i just assumed his was
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similar to this situation. and just the way they were saying that, you know, he was saying, "i can't breathe." i just assumed that was my son. you know? he was overweight. and i knew he had heart problems. and i just knew and i just assumed that's exactly, you know, something like that is what he experienced. >> reporter: so when you saw the george floyd video. >> when i saw it, i saw my son. i just said, that's exactly -- you know, most likely what my son went through. >> reporter: and because of that -- >> because of that i can't bring myself to watch. because i couldn't even watch that video. so i just know definitely that person was nothing to me, and aknow i can't watch my son's. >> ajavier's mother described hm as a funny loving mama's boy. filming when the sheriff's
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deputies began pursuing ambler. the district attorney dick says when a case involves live p.d. if feels like prosecution is stonewalled by the sheriff's department and the show. i spoke about ambler's case and why we're hearing about it only now. >> there certainly needs to be major reforms in the way that the police departments operate. the way prosecution operates. i think one of the problems is i don't think prosecutors call out prosecutors enough and police officers don't call out their own enough. i think hopefully what year seeing here is a movement that will get the criminal justice system to critically look at itself and allow people to come forward. i think one of the things that strikes me so much is you're watching all of these story unfold and they're all so similar all over the united states, and javier ambler is one of the stories, and it's tragic, because it took a year and several months just for it to come to the public's attention. just the fact we have to ask the question is troubling. you know, did live p.d. play a
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role in this chase? it's very troubling that an entertainment television show is involved in this at all. and despite them being involved, there's no video evidence at all from live p.d. or the sheriff's department i know of in the prosecutors hands right now. certainly one of the concerns we've had with live p.d. all along is the impact it has on policing that it causes officers to act in a way they wouldn't otherwise act. >> now, a & e says it wasn't asked for the footage and deleted as part of the show's retention policy. bringing police reality tv shows writ large under scrutiny. more than 30 years on the air the show "cops" canceled. a spokesperson saying no current or future plans for it to return. host and producer of the podcast called "running from cops" joins me to discuss. pardon me, dan.
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and, dan, you heard the district attorney there from the same county as the cops who arrested javier ambler. there are concerns that live p.d. and other shows like it negatively influence how officers act. what is your experience in studying it? >> you know, we watched 847 episodes of the show "cops." we watched countless hows of "live p.d." the question people need to ask, what incentives does becoming, does entertainment give to people who should be focused on good policing, not good entertainment. a similar case happened in florida where live p.d. was shooting in 2018. where a high-speed chase happened and there was live p.d. filming and the question, would they have done that live chase if "live p.d." weren't there with them. >> and 147 episodes you looked at your podcast investigated the reality show for 18 months.
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you looked at 68 now, data points and the show leads with crimes committed by african-americans as a disproportionate rate. tell me about that. >> yeah. we found basically on the whole they show the proportional number of people of color committing crimes as, as compared to real life, compared to fbi data. but what we did see is that they front load the crimes by people of color. so 46% of violent crimes committed by people are color on that show happen in the first seven minutes. same with drug crimes. whereas for white people, 24%. 29%. as a television producer i can tell you when making a show, whether you realize it or not you want to put the stuff that will hook viewers in at the very beginning. asking the question, why is it set up that way? >> obviously, right? every show. that's how they produce it, to really draw viewers in. i mean, that says something about why they think maybe who's
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watching, who they're targeting, when they think that is drawing people in. "cops" has been canceled. "live p.d." pulled from the air. do you think that these kinds of shows entirely need to go? >> i mean, these kinds of -- i don't think policing should be entertainment. i just don't. there are different things going on. cops started in 1989, and helped really sell the war on drugs in america to the america people. because, because of violent, violence committed by police, and you know, drug busts of low-level offenders. it made good television and made people scared. those shows are billed to scare people and make people believe the only thing between them and violence they see on that show is the thin blue line. i don't think it necessarily serves police officers, either. serves a policing stum i think people in the streets are telling people loud and clear that they think need to radically change. >> dan, thank you for joining us
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after looking and studying so many data points in the show "cops." appreciate it. >> my pleasure. just ahead, ludacris joins me live on what he noticed during the protests and what he told the floyd family when he spoke to them. plus dr. anthony fauci calls out the whorld health organization after its confusing remark that asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is rare. just in -- an alarming rise of coronavirus hospitalizations in at least a dozen states following memorial day. bottom line is,
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given the percentage of people, which is about 25, 45% of the totality of infected people likely without symptoms, and we know from epidemiological studies that they can transmit to someone who is uninfelted, even when they're without symptoms. so to make a statement, to say that's a rare event was not correct. >> and in the meantime, more than 12 states actually saw upticks in covid-19 hospitalizations since memorial day. arizona is one of those states and with the numbers of rising, the state has told hospitals to activate emergency plans. 76% of intensive care beds there were occupied as of monday according to arizona's director of health services. senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen joins me now, and that graph you saw there with cases rising, that's not what you want to see. tell us about this and what this increase in hospitalizations,
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how it raises alarms. >> right, brianna. that is not the direction we want that graph to go in. it is disturbing. it is not surprising. you and i have been talking about this for weeks. it's very simple. the more you get people together, the more the virus has a chance to spread. we're going to be seeing those numbers come up. it's especially notable we're seeing hospitalizations come up. sometimes people talk about infections, cases, you say just testing more. they're actually in the hospital, this isn't just a matter of testing. this is very simple. if we want to get rid of this virus we need to stay apart from each other as much as possible. because of certain jobs and theed way things are, some people have to get back to together. even then, there are social distancing and other mitigation measures that can take place. the memorial day celebrations we saw, graduation parties, those are very problematic. >> and elizabeth, after the president toured the headquarters of puritan medical
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products in maine, the facility discarded the swabs that it actually produced during his visit. tell us about this. >> yes. it's very interesting. they're now saying that they discarded those swabs because of the number of individuals present. because obviously with the president there's a whole entourage of people that visit. they said a limited run. only for 15 minutes. they shifted the manufacturing to sort of make up for the time they weren't manufacturing. and they planned this. this was not something they decided afterwards. you know, in this time where we have such shortages of medical equipment, obviously better now than before. system, one has to ask, why did they do this production if they were then going to throw them away? couldn't they sort of demonstrate in other ways without actually wasting the actual product? >> yeah. or make, like, one swab. i don't know. just seems -- just sort of -- doesn't make sense. elizabeth cohen, thank you so much. appreciate it. as more companies push to
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make change, other ceos are not. how some are quitting or apologizing for comments about race. plus, hbo pulling "gone with the wind" for its racial depictions, sparking a debate about censorship. and context as well. we discuss. we went back and looked at the original police report describing george floyd's death. you will want to hear it, see what it says. straining, and bloating, again and again. no way. more exercise. more water. and more fiber is the only way to manage it. is it? maybe you think... it's occasional constipation. maybe it's not. it could be a chronic medical condition called ibs-c, and time to say yesss! to linzess. linzess works differently than laxatives. it helps relieve belly pain and lets you have more frequent and complete bowel movements. do not give linzess to children less than six and it should not be given to children six to less than 18, it may harm them. do not take linzess if you have a bowel blockage.
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to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! multiple companies and ceos under fire for controversial racially insensitive comments they made about george floyd and the black lives matter protests that have been sweeping the nation. in north carolina several professional and collegiate teams including the charlotte hornets and carolina panthers cut ties with a local security firm after the ceo criticized protesters and admonished people to focus on black on black crime. he has since apologized. now the ceo of fitness firm crossfit resigned after apologizing for a tweet some called racist and insensitive. there was a reason why they called it that. greg glassman tweeting the phrase, floyd-19, in response to a tweet from the institute for
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health metrics and evaluation saying racism is a public health issue. backlash. you can imagine it was swift. cost him a corporate sponsorship with athleticmaker reebok. several gym franchise owners pulled their affiliation. in glassman's statement announcing his resignation of retirement he said in part "i create add rift in the crossfit community and unintentionally hurt many of its members. those who know me know that my soul issue is the chronic disease epidemic. i cannot let my behavior stand in the way of hq's or affiliates' missions. they are too important to jeopardize." the new streaming srz max is pulling "gone from the wind" over a platform how it depicts race. the nim will not be gone forever. it will return but with discussion of his historical context. a spokesman for this company says "gone with the wind" is a
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product are its time and depishgts prejudices unfortunately commonplace in american society. we felt to keep the title up without an explanation and announcement of those depictions would are irresponsible. i want to discuss this fou with cnn contributor and entertainment tonight host nichelle turner and hosting the national sindt kated show "the list." nichelle first to you. i mean what do you make of this development? >> you know, i think it's interesting. i wouldn't be in favor of just pulling the film, you know, all the way. but i do think that there is something to be said about maybe adding some context to it. maybe an artist roundtable or discussion along with the film when it comes back. i know personally everyone that, pretty much everybody that i know that's watched the film and myself, we have this -- this conversation along with the film, because we know that, yes, indeed it does glorify the south, and whitewash slavery.
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the movie has its place in history but definitely is a problematic movie in a lot of ways. i think having a conversation about that is appropriate, and so i know there's been a lot of kind of outrage about this, this morning, but i definitely think that it does deserve to have some conversation with this movie, because in the time it was made, there was a lot of problems with films made about slavery and the south. >> i would appreciate i know, some sorpt t of roundtable or discussions about it. so important to learn from that. i wonder what you think about this development? segun? >> reporter: for me, as a black person i don't need the whitewashing of history to appease my blackness. pulling the movie doesn't -- it kind of moves the goal posts and makes us lose focus on what we're actually asking for. i do like that they want to have
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a discussion about it, but let's talk about the haddie mcdaniels and the fact she was the first african-american to win an oscar because of this movie. it's a piece of art and, yes, to nichelle's point it does glorp phi the antebellum south and is a product of its time but not the same as the rebel flag or confederate flag that still flies in southern states. it's not the same as statues of confederate generals or schools named after confederate general. let's understand what it is and i love that hbo, which does amazing documentaries, is willing to put some talk around this movie. i would love to show the evolution of a haddie mcdaniels to halle berry and how roles for black women haven't necessarily moved since this movie. like, there's a lot of discussions that could be had, but i don't like the pulling of art just because it may offend people, you know when it was
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made. i think discussion needs to happen, and hbo can do a really good thing here. >> good point. so much of it. where is the conversation with that. i want to ask you both -- >> brianna -- sorry. i didn't mean to interrupt you. a good question. a lot of the conversation we have today are movies that people think are problematic, made today, that depict white savior, whether "the help," "green book" movied like athe bli -- "the blind side." and they were made in modern days. there is a place to have discussions around these movie, and things like this for sure. >> you're right, nichelle. "driving miss daisy." there's too many movies. right? do we go back through each and every one? i don't think that's the answer, but the conversation. like, these movies don't exist
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in a vacuum and the actors portrayed in them, i'm sure some of them would have a lot to say about what they feel about it. that's where real solutions can come about. >> it would be fascinating to know what they think about it. what do you think about something john ridley, academy screenwriter "12 year as slave" said, wrote an in op-ed, a film glorifying antebellum south, a film not ignoring horrors of slavery pauses to perpetuate the most stereotypes of pain in people of color. what do you say and what's the precedent for other movies or books or music? >> nichelle, you go first. >> answer that and keep it short. he's right. >> segun? >> yeah. i mean, he's 100% correct.
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again, let's tell the truth. like, don't glorify a past that is steepedblood and pain and degradation. like, if you want to tell the story, we're asking for equality. okay? equality and fairness. tell the whole truth. show what the civil wartruth. show what show the truth. don't show people saying frankly my dear i don't give damn. yeah i do give a damn. at any point truth. let's show it. >> thank you both so much for this conversation. >> can we say before we go, hatty mcdaniels will always be intact. it's her birthday today and this feigned outrage i heard from conservative voices that hbo is erasing hatty mcdaniel. that will never happen. her legacy is intact.
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the talk about fact she couldn't sit at the table with the cast in 1939 when she won the oscar. a favor had to be called in that she could even attend the service at coconut grove that night. let's add those things while you're feigning outrage. >> absolutely. tell the truth. >> thank you so much for saying that. thank you for your insights. we appreciate both of you. a day after george floyd was laid to arrest the chief police in minneapolis announced new reforms for his department the that include a warning system for overseas with bad behavior. plus police blame gangs and local groups for riot damages and it directly contradicts who president trump says is responsible.
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