16 days after the death of george floyd the minneapolis police chief is announcing a major department wide change, answering demands from protesters and public figures for reform. the chief announced he'll immediately withdraw the department as contract negotiations with the police union and implement an early warning system to identify officer misconduct. >> so for the first time in the history of policing we here in minneapolis will have an the opportunity to use real-time data and automation to intervene with officers who are engaged in

problematic behavior. >> cnn sara sidnor is joining us live now. sara, we heard the police chief talking passionately about growing up in minneapolis. he also said race and policing there are intertwined. tell us more about these changes, tell us why they are happening now. >> reporter: look, this is really the department at the center of all that's happened across the country. we have never seen a response like this before. when you go back and look at other cases of police officers taking lives of black men, this has sparked a change in all 50 states with people protesting at the very least there, never mind some policy decisions that some of the leadership in some states are making at this point. but to hear from the chief, he was very pointed. and he answered all of the questions. there was no sort of trying to glaze over what has happened here. he recognizes that this is a huge moment and a chance for him

to push through reforms that he's been trying to push through for some time. you talk about two of those reforms. but i thought it was remarkable. he generated he believed the other officers who were next to now fired officer derek chauvin who had his knee pressed down on george floyd's neck those officer that didn't take part in the pressing down of george floyd's neck but stood by and watched or kneeling down near him and didn't stop derek chauvin recall complicit and he resaid that again today when asked. they have said, look, a couple of those officers were rookies, very new to force. the question remains as to whether or not it was their training, or they were just taking orders from somebody who was more senior as in derek chauvin and he said look, he would not say derek chauvin's name, he refused to name the officer who he fired and accused of murdering george floyd. he did say this is not a part of any training he's ever seen or any of his officers should have

ever seen and he said this is once you're on the force you're expected to treat people with humanity and he said he did not see that happening out there that day so rookie or not he said there are complicit. he also was asked a question and had a remarkable answer when someone said to him if this person had not recorded what they saw on the treats that day, would we have ever known what happened and should people record and really police the police? here's his answer. >> i'm thankful, absolutely, that this was captured in the manner that it was. no excuse for the actions. call a friend. yell out. call 911. we need a supervisor to this scene. absolutely. i need to know that. we need to know that. so the community plays a vital role and did two weeks ago,

absolutely. >> reporter: he is basically telling people to call the police on police. i thought that was a remarkable statement today that i've never heard from a chief in the past before. should also mention, those that there are a lot of political gears going here. you have some city council members that would like to defund or dismantle the police. the mayor said absolutely not. the st. patrick's day an integral part of the community that needs reform and signed on the chief's decision and his 0 two pronged approach at reform. >> sara, the thank you so much. sara sidnor in minneapolis. george floyd's 6-year-old daughter said her daddy changed the world and now the nation have seen police reform plans unveiled around the u.s.. police states in 11 cities banned police chokeholds or in the process of writing laws to end them. republicans and democrats in congress are working on federal legislation of their own to fix policing. this is a testament to the power of these nationwide protests we've been seeing. last week republicans dismissed

the idea of a legislative response at all and now they have broad outlines of their own proposal. george floyd's brother testified on capitol hill today. he was pleading with lawmakers not to fail his family and the tens of thousands of americans who are demanding an end to the police killings of unarmed african-americans. >> a man who took his life, who suffocated him for eight minutes and 46 seconds, he still called him sir as he begged for his life. i can't tell you the kind of pain you feel when you watch something like that. when you watch your big brother, who you looked up to your whole entire life die, die begging for his mom, i'm tired. i'm tired of pain. pain you feel when you watch something like that. when you watch your big brother, who you looked up to for your whole life die, die begging for his mom, i'm here to ask you to

make it stop. stop the pain. stop us from being tired. george called for help and he was ignored. please listen to the calls i'm making to you now. to the calls of our family and the calls ringing out in the streets across the world. people of all background, genders and races have come together to demand change. honor them. honor george. and make the necessary changes that make law enforcement the solution. and not the problem. hold them accountable when they do something wrong. teach them what it means to treat people with elm pampathy respect. teach them what necessary force is. teach them deadly force should be used rarely and only when life is at risk. george wasn't hurting anyone that day. he didn't deserve to die over

$20. >> with me now to discuss this further is the criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor. thanks for joining us. we know that part of this defense strategy for the two officers charged with aiding and abetting in floyd's murder is they were very new to the job. you heard sara described the police chief dismissed that argument. he expects all of his people to treat people humanely whether or not they've been on the job for a day or 19 years. when it comes to legally this being a defense, what do you think? >> i mean watching the police chief say that basically judge muted any type of defense these officers can assert. thinking about how he made the statement to a possible jury pool. these people, these individuals in the community that could possibly serve on this jury that's going try these officers are listening to what the police chief is saying. he's saying forget policy, where's your humanity.

at the end of the day these officers put on a badge and they are first responders. they saw somebody physically harmed on the ground calling for breath. this individual was dying. they had a responsibility to at least interfere and get medical personnel there. so their defense is going weak at best, but even weaker would be chauvin's defense. >> could you see -- even weaker would be chauvin's defense. could you see a situation where the police chief is on the stand in this trial? >> possibly. i don't think that that's necessarily the case. or has to be the case. i think the prosecution could have more evidence -- listen prosecution always has more evidence. they know more about the case than the public does. we don't know what they actually have right now. i don't think as it stands it's notices have the police chief actually testify to this. that's a very good point. obviously would be willing to say what he said out in public

today. >> george floyd's family's lawyer ben crump called for a national standard for policing. he said that this should be considered obstruction of justice to turn off a body cam, for instance. is that idea possible? >> well, first of all, body cam should be required on all officers. absolutely no reason for body cams to be turned off if an officer is on duty. the act of obstructing is an act that someone is willfully trying to interfere with the process of justice or impeding some sort of investigation. body cams serve as that third eye for us. they serve as that replacement for the competing narrative with just one narrative and that's the truth. so body cams are extremely important. dash cams i know in the city of dallas, when the sirens above, the headlights come on that dash cam comes on and goes back 30 seconds. no reason why body cams shouldn't work the same way and

shouldn't have the capability of an officer freely to turn it off. body cams are extremely crucial. i can't understand that argument of obstructing justice. >> thank you very much. first, though, i'm going to be joined live about rapper and activist ludacris who attended the george floyd memorial service. we'll ask him about the protests in his hometown of atlanta, the voting debacle in georgia where he voted and the new video he released to help kids understand racism. it's fantastic. you should check it out. new details about the condition of the 75-year-old man who was pushed to the ground by police in buffalo, new york. his friend will join us to the talk about the president's attempts to spread respiratory theories. and lax restrictions on memorial day weekend led to more

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of state is already blaming county leaders. >> it's just totallily disorganized mess. they had three additional months to get ready for this. they had those machines for six months now in their storage warehouses that they could have gone out the train their employee, their precinct workers. what did they do? they squandered that time. >> joining me now is atlanta's own ludacris the grammy award winner singer, actor and activist. ludacris, thank you so much for joining us. what do you make of the voting mess there in your home state? >> oh, man it's exactly what he said. by the way, just so everyone knows, somebody had to let me know this, the supreme court on tuesday, effectively struck down the heart of the voting rights act of 1965 by 5-4 vote. so that's bringing nine states mostly in the south, remember that, to change their election laws without advance federal approval. we should be questioning why that is as well.

but it's definitely crazy. luckily i early voted but all of the crazy things that went on yesterday they shouldn't be happening just like he said. they should not be happening. >> are you worried that this is what's going on come november? >> i'm definitely worried about it because like you said, just like he said you don't see this going on in other communities besides the black community and he said this should have been taken care of three to four months ago. so if you look in the future three or four months this needs to be fixed immediately and we shouldn't be having any excuses like that. >> so you've been out. we've seen you out with protesters in atlanta demanding an end to police brutality and systemic racism. there's a picture we have of you holding up a black lives matter sign. you also were in minneapolis. you traveled there to attend the first memorial surface that was held for george floyd and you met with his family. tell us why you thought it was important to be there and tell us what you talked with them

about. what you wanted to discuss with them. >> it was important for notice pay my respects, one. there were so many different people there and especially to hear from his family. and, you know, i don't have all the answers myself. i'm here to learn as much as i possibly can. when i did get a chance to talk to the family i thanked them for their strength and let them month we were going to go back to our cities and make sure we continue to fight because obviously i've been taking care of my community for as long as i can remember and trying to help. it feels good there's a certain amount of change we're seeing that's going help us out even further with communities that we feel like we've been basically helping out on our own. so now we're starting to get some pep. it was just important to give them that confidence and for that family to give us the same confidence back. >> you are trying to give confidence to kids, which we look at your t-shirt there, kid nation.

this is a big project of your. educating children through your organization kid nation. you released a couple of new videos but one of them is racial unity called get along. i want to watch a clip of this. >> yeah. ♪ i think we're seeing ludacris out there that there's an appetite for people who are trying to explain to their children who are honestly asking some of the most basic poignant questions about everything that's going on. it's beautiful, right, to hear

them ask questions. tell us about why this was so important to you, to try to reach out to them? >> it's so important to me just because, you know, kids are still impressionable. and they lead with love. and they are very innocent. they are very honest. so i feel like we have so much more to learn from them, than we can teach them at this moment. so i'm glad you showed a clip of that because it's bringing the world to tears by watching this video and it's like it's on kid nation.com but it's a conversation that needs had none the less depending how old your dids are. these type of music videos and type of songs which by the way is giving voice to the kids. we do research groups and find out what they want to talk about and then we help facilitate that. that's why this is so important because we know that music is very, very, you know, how much kids love music and how much it affects them and helps their motor skills and self-expression. that's why i wanted to do this

and come with answers and slugs with all the problems that are going on in the world today. it means the world to me that the world is overwhelmingly loving, this video and the things that we're putting out. >> and i think the kids are seeing things, right, on the tv. we have been watching protests in our house. i listen to one of our sons ask my husband, daddy why are they being so mean to those people when violence broke out in a protest on the end of police and it's hard to know, you know, what your kids are seeing and how to explain this to them. i wonder how you're explaining this to your kids? >> listen, i'm being the change that i want to see. so by giving all the parents that are home schooling right now another opening and giving their kids something safe to look at and there are more videos and songs on the way, by the way because we're doing a full launch at the end of the summer. we felt this was an emergency to put these song out.

you're right. having these conversations is hard to have them. that's why i'm trying to do everything i can so the next generation doesn't go through the problems and issues that we're going through and i'm just trying my best. that's what i can do. everybody is saying what is everybody doing. i'm doing a lot of things. this right here is very impactful at the moment. >> i will mention real quickly there's another great song on the website about washing your hands and hygiene which is so important to convince our kids why it's so important. i want to ask you about something president trump's top economic adviser larry kudlow just said. he became the latest adviser to say systemic racism does not exist. here's what he said. >> i don't believe systemic racism is in the u.s. i won't go into a long dialogue on it. >> you're shaking your head. there's a lot of americans who agree with him, ludacris. what do you say?

>> i don't care about americans that agree with him. that's the most ludicrous thing i ever heard. i can definitely say that. i feel like trump administration is causing more dissension as opposed to unity in the the world of today and that's how i honestly feel. you can quote me on that. >> the there's a lawyer for one of the officers who is charged in george floyd's death who is now blaming bystanders. he says if the by stanners were so concerned they should have intervened to save floyd's life. what's your reaction to that. >> man, they are looking for any excuse to veer away from the issue at hand and this video that we continued to look at over and over again which has caused all of this conversation, so like i said, it's a lot of i was the going on right now. i'm trying to focus on the positives just based on the conversations being had right now. i want to look for solutions and i appreciate love because love

trumps hate, and that's why i feel like in the end as long as we continue to preach love we'll get through this and we're going make it better for our children period. >> i wonder what you think about the nfl which we've just learned has come out and said black lives matter. we saw an apology from roger goodell. what do you make of the league's response and i won what you want to see moving forward here? >> i love that -- i think that's a great start. i feel that they should say who they are apologizing to because we have to keep in mind that kaepernick was doing peaceful protesting for a longtime and i stress the word peaceful and nobody has apologized to him yet. so i feel like they need to say his name because we're saying a lot of other names and i love that everyone is doing that but right now they also need to make sure that in this apology or in this explanation, they talk about the person who began the peaceful protest of kneeling and

why he did that. and admit. >> yeah. kneeling because he was told by a former green beret about kneeling as a way to acknowledge that people of color were being hurt and killed by police but also a way to show respect as he saw it to the flag as well. ludacris, thank you so much for joining us. we appreciated this conversation and i can't wait to show my kids your videos on kid nation. they are very cool. >> i appreciate that. kidnation.com. follow kid nation on instagram. i'm going to spread as much positivity and love as i can. thank you very much. love. >> all right, thank for coming on. we'll see you again soon. minneapolis police chief just weighed in on whether the people rioting on his looting were outside agitators. cnn has new details about that accusation and protests across the country. a friend of the 75-year-old man who was pushed to the ground by buffalo, new york police will join me live.

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pass a state budget that protects our public schools. law enforcement groups investigating the violence anticipate looting that occurred in cities across the country' height of the george floyd protests say they have identified those responsible for

the damage inflicted and they are gangs and local criminal group. this directly contradicts the president's claims left wing extremists are solely to blame. minneapolis police chief was asked about this today and here's what he said. >> i know that early on there was information that potentially there were other outside influencers that had arrived in our city during the protests and riots and what have you. i believe some of that to still be true in terms of the percentage or amount of how many were from out of state. they are still looking at that. >> evan perez is our senior justice correspondent and he has more on this. >> reporter: the reality we're hearing from new york and philadelphia and the east to bellevue, washington and los angeles is that it's not quite what you hear from the politicians and certainly from the president who blamed a lot of mayhem or all of the mayhem really on leftist groups

anticipate specifically called out antifa, which is an anti-fascist movement. we hear from law enforcement officials that, you know, what they are seeing is criminal gangs. street crews. people who were taking advantage of the peaceful protests and they saw these crowds gathering in the streets and using it as a crime, especially at a time of opportunity to be able to carry out some of their crimes. looting high end retail locations and pharmacies coast to coast. so what we hear in this building, of course, from the attorney general, bill barr and from even from the fbi is that they are still looking for indications and they are seeing indications that antifa and other leftist groups were behind some of this violence and we're told that they still expect that they will be able to bring some cases showing that, but at this point they brought about 50 cases against people who were charged with different aspects of rioting and so far all of

those cases have not shown any antifa involvement. what we've seen is involvement of boogalo boys a group on the right and they were involved in a case in las vegas trying to instigate a riot using molotov cocktails trying to set up a situation where the cops and the demonstrator would be able to essentially go at each other. . that so far is what we've seen so far. >> all right. thank you so much. it's been a question everyone has had watching all of this as we've seen these accusations swirl. evan thanks for getting to the bottom of it for us. an elderly community activist pushed to the ground which two buffalo police officers and then accused by president trump baselessly, of being an antifa provocateur. he's now reported in fear condition. video showed martin gugino being shoved there to the ground as he was talking to police.

they were trying to enforce a curfew. martin gugino hit his head on the concrete. and he was left there on the ground bleeding. as dozens of officers stepped over him to pass by. now the two buffalo officers who you saw incredible there are charged with felony assault. friends of martin gugino are speaking out. terrence is a friend of martin gugino and joining us now to talk about this. and there is a picture of your friend, right? can you first give us a sense, just tell us how, how he's doing. can you give us an update on his condition? >> well, it's actually hard for us to get the information directly from the hospitals. they don't want to give any information, so we fortunately his friend who is kelly, who is acting as his legal representation is able to regularly visit him. she visited him on sunday and it was very sad but we appreciated

hearing. he found lights very painful. he couldn't move his head without being in excruciating pain. when she wanted to read -- she wanted to read some of the emails of support that had been coming in and he was too tired to, to listen for these things. you know. so he's having a hard time. but -- >> having a hard time. okay. that's good news. but clearly he's in a lot of pain. he's been in a lot of pain. he's been in very serious condition. and when you first saw that video of him, being pushed to the ground and then just being left there bleeding, what did you think? >> well, one thing we thought we wish some of us had been with him, standing with him. but because, you know, it was sad that he decided perhaps on the spur of the moment to go down there and to talk to

people, which is in question maybe perhaps what they wanted, whether a curfew was the right way to resolve free speech issues and whether a militarized police was the best way to confront civilians. he was asking a question, we're absolutely sure of that. and tragedy, all of it. >> his lawyer says that martin gugino hold no ill will towards the president over those baseless remarks. but when the president comes out and -- sorry, what is your reaction? >> you know that's great and that's very much what i would, what i know of martin. what a great guy he is. >> he accused the president accused him of being part of antifa. i mean what do you say to that? i know -- i think i month the tans but is he? >> yeah, well, you know, i say

martin stands always on the side of nonviolence and is a follower -- even though is influenced by martin luther king and by jesus, okay. so if they are anti-fascists then so is he. but in the peaceful strain, so it's a terrible and cruel thing for someone in power to say that about a man who can't defend himself because he's been left sick by the whole situation. >> but to be clear, terrence, he's not part of this fringe group that calls itself antifa? >> no. he's part of the peace movement, and in some cases the peace movement includes a lot of different voices, and i don't think he would want someone to

say oh, i reject one part of the peace movement. but, you know, it's harbor for me to speak for him. leapt us just say everything i've done with him and everything he stood for has been for vigils that are difficult for him to do, to stand silently in witness to causes that he believes in. and that is not -- that's not what people mean especially the people that wrote that tweet. that's not what they are talking about. so he does not fit at all what they were trying to say. and then for them to have added conspiracy, which are crazy conspiracy things to it, makes it even stranger. >> yeah. it was very strange. terrence, thank you so much. we along with you as you, you're sort of holding vigil i think for your friend martin and, you know, we're with you.

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phase of re-opening is going there. >> reporter: yes. it's moving forward today. mayor de blasio announced he's expanding testing and wants everyone in the city to get tested. i can tell you there's another state that will hop schools in the fall. the governor of rhode island announce ad short time ago schools will re-open for in person learning on august 31st. much of what we're seeing around the country it will look different. beaches in miami-dade county are open today. >> i missed it. it's the reason i live here. >> reporter: the mall of america also re-opening and more americans are getting out. new cnn polling finds half said they left home in the last week to visit family, friends or neighbors. they are still split on returning to their regular routines and already the worse is behind us. women are more likely than known exercise caution. just 38% say they are ready to resume those routines as new research finds lockdown restrictions should be lifted gradually to avoid a spike in

new cases. >> what concerns me is do we have the systems in place to ensure that a case in our community doesn't lead to a cluster, doesn't thread an outbreak, doesn't thread a health care system once again getting overwhelmed. >> reporter: since memorial day weekend the number of covid related hospitalizations has increased in at least a dozen states. in arizona health officials say 79% of the icu beds are currently in use. the director of health services asking hospitals to activate their emergency plans and reduce or suspend elective surgeries. more than half are also among the 18 seeing a rise in new cases over the past week. >> when you open that doesn't mean that everything is okay and you just can do whatever you want. you the still have to practice a degree of caution. >> reporter: the u.s. government says it will fund and study three experimental vaccines this summer. >> even with the vaccine there

may be other steps we have to continue to take to control coronavirus. >> reporter: face coverings and social distancing likely here to stay. meantime major league soccer will return on july 8th as the mlb players association propose july 10th for opening day of a shortened season and new cases are reported among football players at florida state and the university of central florida. now nascar will be welcoming fans at homestead in homestead, florida this weekend. we should point out once again dr. fauci expressing concern about protesters and folks mingling so closely together likely we'll see more positive cases coming out of these events. >> all right. erica hill thank you for that report from new york. major league soccer among the pro sports returning soon. the commissioner of that league will join me live to explain how that will work next. plus the president makes a proclamation over the debate of

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soccer fans rejoice. major league soccer announced it is coming out of the shutdown and will resume play on july 8th at the walt disney resort outside of orlando. don garber is the commissioner. this is exciting news for all sports fans who have wanted to see some live games. tell us how this is going to work and then tell us what happens when, because it is probably a when not an if, a player tests positive for coronavirus. >> it starts with returning to play and finally after only two weeks of our season starting with what was the beginning of our 25th season which was shut down with the pandemic. and many months later we brought all of our teams and our players and owners together to try to find the right to return to play plan. that will bring us to walt disney world where all 26 teams, 800 plus players and several

thousand in total who will work to try to create the safest and most exciting environment. we'll have 26 teams playing in a group format and then they'll going into a knockout tournament and ultimately the winner will be of the tournament will be receiving both prize money but also recognition for winning and earning the right to compete in this important tournament that exists later in the year. this is been a long time -- >> don, i'm sorry, it sounds cool. i'm going to give you that. it sounds great. but what do you do if someone tests positive. >> no different than what every league will do. if we have a positive test, that player will be removed from the tournament and go into quarantine. we'll contact trace anybody that that player has had exposure to and then ultimately those players would get tested

regularl regularly. so all players will be tested before arriving in orlando, and while competing in the tournament and all of those people around them will get tested as well. >> do you have any fear that when you have asymptomatic players together, what is the determination that it isn't safe, that maybe play might need to stop completely, do you have a plan for that? >> even if a player is asymptomatic, they'll be tested so if they test positive they'll be removed from the tournament and put into quarantine. and similarly the staff that is around them is going to be tested. so we don't have any plan to shut the tournament down if we have a positive test and i don't think you'll see that with other tournaments that are going to be launched in the time period to come. but we will have to manage if we have multiple players that test positive, we're going to have to manage that should we face it during the tournament. >> and your league does not have

rules against anthem protesting. according to espn, the united states soccer federation is now considering a repeal of its policy which requires national team players to stand during the anthem. would you be supportive if some players decided in light of what we've seen in the last couple of weeks that they want to kneel, take a knee during the anthem. >> we had a policy that we passed several years ago, 2017, that said we will respect any players right to compress their right to free speech and if they wanted to kneel during the national anthem we would support that. that policy hasn't changed. if any player in this tournament or throughout the year wants to kneel during the anthem or at any other expressions, then we'll support that. >> don garber, thank you so much. the major league soccer commissioner. we're looking forward to having the league back. >> thank you. just in, not 24 hours after

we learned the pentagon is considering renamed dozens instillations that bear the name of the confederate commanders, the president said that is not happening. >> want to bring in kaitlan collins and barbara starr. and many former military top brass say they would like to see this. what is the president saying, kaitlan? >> reporter: he is telling them that is not going to happen. let me tell you what happened in the last few minutes. the briefing was supposed to start at 2:00 p.m. and it was delayed until 2:30 and the president tweeted and they handed out a printout of the president's tweet to reporters in the room a few minutes before the briefing and the press secretary came out and also read the president's tweet where he said in part these monumental bases have become part of a great american heritage and a history of winning victory and freedom and

therefore my administration will not consider the renaming of these magnificent military instillations and our history is the greatest nation in the world will not be tampered with. he said respect our military. now if you noticed over the last few days there have been discussions about this. the president had been completely silent. which was raising questions among some of the adviser as to how he was going to respond to this. the press secretary said he worked on the tweets for quite a while and it reminds me that you'll remember in 2017 after the neo-nazis protested in charlotteville, the president came out against the removal of confederate statues then and believed it was foolish and now the president is telling his defense secretary they are not going to be renaming these bases. >> there is this debate, barbara, about the symbols of southern heritage but on the

other hand you have something like fort bragg which is in north carolina which is the center of the military universe as it is called. but it is named after a confederate general who, you know, frankly sucked at his job and it is sort of a wonder that he even was held up as someone who is a real a good general. and he was a slave owner. and so it really just makes you wonder, as the military is trying to deal with the fact that, yes, they do pull a lot of recruits from the south, but then le also kind of have some of this why is this base named for this guy, how is the military handling this? >> reporter: well, here is where we are right now. and i think it could not possibly be overstated, the president of the united states has just told the defense secretary the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the secretary of the army and several members of the joint chiefs if not all of them to basically forget about it. to not even think about it. not going to happen. what is so mystifying as it

always is with president trump's tweet is why he says some of the things he does. respect our military. it is the military leaders in this country who want this open debate, this bipartisan conversation. i could tell you they are already had been talking about establishing a blue ribbon type commission of people who are very respected in the united states to think about renaming these bases, how they would go about it and how they would actually work with the state, local governments, the cities where these bases are located. they wanted to be able to do it the right way. this is a question for some of southern heritage, for many of honoring confederate generals who took up arms against the united states and were responsible for killing american troops. very divisive issue. very controversial. but what the president told the defense secretary and joint chiefs don't come to me to even talk about it. brianna. >> it is not an easy discussion.

the marines have banned the confederate flag this spring and the army and the navy is looking at following suit. but these are serious issues that need to be discussed and the president suspect shut it down. thank you so much to both of you. and we have breaking news from the minneapolis police chief. why he's cutting off negotiations with the local police union and what he thinks of the accused officers planning to use their rookie status as a defense strategy. hi there, n

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