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top of the hour. i'm kate bolduan. president trump is heading out of the white house on the way to dallas, texas. leaving a trail of controversy in his wake quite frankly. first the nation's top general apologizing this morning saying it was a mistake to accompany the president on the walk across the street from the white house for the photo-op admitting that the presence gave the perception of the military getting involved in domestic politics. also the president's facing backlash for the decision to get back out on the campaign trail with a first event in tulsa, oklahoma, next week. that is not all he is facing. there is the coronavirus pandemic, yes, still a pandemic and stale real problem and the calls for real and concrete police reform. on the virus, the president pushed aggressively we'll remember for states to reopen even publicly berating the states accused of dragging their
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feet and now signs that the push is coming with a high cost. take texas, where the president's headed to today. a clear increase in infections in the state. and more troubling is the spike in hospitalizations in a handful of states but the white house task force has been nowhere to be seen leading within top public expert to this conclusion today. >> it's clear to me from everything i can tell that the white house is more or less kind of throwing in the towel own this pandemic. >> as mentioned the president is headed to texas, he is holding discussions with church leaders and members of law enforcement expected to talk about the other challenge facing the country right now, demands for major changes in policing and public safety after the death of george floyd. cnn's barbara starr at the pentagon joining me now and kaitlan collins at the white house. barbara, let's start with general milley's apology. >> reporter: it was quite
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something because as chairman he really is the guardian of keeping the uniformed military out of politics, partisan poll it cans in this country. and what he is saying is when you look at that photo, when he looks at it he knows there is a perception that his walk into lafayette park next to the president of the united states created a perception he now believes was a mistake that he should not have even been there. have a listen to what he said earlier today in a recorded speech. >> many of you saw the result of the photograph of me at lafayette square last week and sparked a debate of the role of military in civil society. i should not have been there. my presence in that moment and in that environment created a perception of the military involved in domestic politics. as a commissioned uniformed officer it was a mistake that i have learned from. and i sincerely hope -- >> reporter: he goes on to say
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he hopes that everyone can learn from it. look. this period of civil unrest, they are well aware that there was a public perception if you will that this was a militarized operation. it was national guard activated by the states, here in washington, d.c. but law enforcement looking like military forces in some cases, a perception by so many americans that this was a militarized operation and milley and esper adamant they sought to convince president trump there's no need to activate active duty military and that law enforcement could handle the situation where ch they did, of course. active duty military forces did not need to be on the streets of the country. kate? >> barbara, thank you. kaitlan, facing all of this, the president is talking about this
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controversial rally in tulsa, oklahoma. what are you hearing at the white house? >> reporter: this is his first rally since they suspended them because of the pandemic. it's going to be next friday in tulsa raising eyebrows because oklahoma is a deeply red state, not like it's a state that the president is fighting to win in the november election. but this is the first one for his campaign and there are two aspects of this. one is, of course, the safety part coming to the coronavirus pandemic and the president made clear he doesn't want to attend a rally where there are people seated apart from each other. he went so far as to pull the convention, something that you don't really ever see a presidential candidate doing from north carolina because it wasn't going to look the way that he wanted to so we are still expecting the rally to look like the ones you saw before this outbreak happened in the united states and even in the early months of it so that's really going to be a question whether or not the president is following the guidelines that his own government has said about that but also the other
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aspect of this is that the nation is still reeling from the death of george floyd, the president, of course, has made comments saying he doesn't want to rename military bases that are named after con fed rate leaders and maintains that nfl players should not kneel as a form of protest of police brutality in the national anthem and now going to be in tulsa on the as far as of juneteeth, commemoration of the end of slavery and you have to realize that tulsa was a place of one of the worst marks of violence of white mobs attacking blacks citizens and the businesses in 1921. almost 100 years ago and all of the aspects are going to be at the forefront when the president does go to tulsa in just a little over a week from now. >> yeah. kaitlan, thank you. joining me now is former republican governor of ohio, former presidential candidate cnn's senior political john k
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kasich, i preerkt you coming in. >> love to be with you, kate. >> thank you, thank you. what is your reaction to hearing this apology from the chairman of the joint chiefs? i find it striking. >> yeah. it's pretty remarkable. he never should have been there and then general mattis said that the quote here is what trump has done instead he tries to divide us. and then you had kelly the former chief of staff supporting it. mattis was the secretary of defense. i was on the defense committee for 18 years and never seen this kind of unity when it comes to our high-ranking military officers taking an opposition to the president of the united states. and i guess milley didn't do that but to say that he got caught in confusing politics with his duties. hello. i mooean, this is just crazy.
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president going to tulsa, the polls sinking. look, kate. i didn't support this guy the last time and i won't support him again. he is the divider in chief. the insults that he's given to mayors and to governors, the idea that he tried to say that a 75-year-old pacifist could have been attached to antifa. this ridiculous march from the white house outside of a church and holding up a bible, i mean, it's just unbelievable and, kate, we need somebody who's a unifier, somebody who soothes, not somebody who stokes the fires to kind of seasoned a signal to his base to be rehe effected. this is shameful. i'm sick over it. it's out ray jous what's happening. >> i appreciate always your candor and passion and i do wonder then as you say this the president is heading to dallas. he's meeting with law
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enforcement and faith leaders. there's all this talk of if the president should or will be giving a speech and honestly who's writing it for him. do you with all of that in mine and everything that you just said do you want to hear from donald trump on race and unity in america right now? >> i think it would be empty. but the president has a right to go ahead and make a talk but as one gentleman once told me don't tell me, show me. this all started back in charlottesville of good people on both sides. no, there were not. i think he is missing a compassion gene. one of the things you have to do, kate, you don't have to do but one things to come natural to you is your ability to mourn with people. you think about what reagan, his speech after the "challenger" accident, you think about how moving it was and george bush standing on the rubble at 9/11, you know, being right there at
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the heart of it all, or you think about bill clinton, what happened after oklahoma city, or you think about robert kennedy on the top of a car with a bullhorn the night of martin luther king's assassination, that's what we are missing today. it's too much dividing and speaking to the base and it's -- i don't know what he's going to say. what is he going to say? question is what is he going to do? we do need standards. >> i actually -- >> we have them in ohio. >> i absolutely hear you. i challenge you on one bit. i think a lot of people would take a leader with no compassion if they just got it right. i mean, by that i only mean that get it right on charlottesville. you don't need compassion to get that right. you need a brain. wearing masks and being a leader in terms of showing people what you need to do to save lives and be there for your brother and your neighbor in the middle of a
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pandemic. when they're completely denying that masks are important. look at the picture put out and deleted by mike pence at campaign headquarters. i think a lot of people would even say, you know what? i'll take something short of compassion if we got it right and don't get me started on the conspiracy theories. then you have that. >> yeah. you're right about that. i would also say, look. if he wants to apologize and say, you know, my attacking the 75-year-old man and these innuendos and that i was wrong and in terms of telling the mayors that you're incompetent and i have to put the military in there which i don't think he has the power to do, if he says i should never have gone to the church i'm willing to listen. what do we hear? it is like charlie brown and the football. i thought they'll do something on gun control. they had all this rhetoric and nothing ever happened. look. the difference here, kate, we are seeing a unified america
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saying from bottom upper with going to have change and the racism, we want to eliminate the fear that a mother of a black child when he leaves to go to the store that he can come home safely! it's taken too long. and now is the opportunity. i'm not so sure he gets it. >> i will promote your book on this because you wrote a book about bringing about change and how real and enduring change happens and how it has to come from the ground up and that is what we are seeing right now. i wonder, yes, not every republican is the same. look no further than how you see republicans on capitol hill twisting themselves up in knots to be with the president and not on some occasions. if republicans can't come together on a plan with a president that i don't know what he is going to agree to or
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support, are you concerned what that means for the party? this is a real moment that people can't deny. >> you know, look. we hear about bipartisanship. we are all human beings. forget about republican and democrat. say we are human beings that are concerned about what the lord told us, love your neighbor as you want to be loved. i had talked to tim scott this morning, senator scott. he is terrific and trying to put together guidelines, rules. i told him i would help him with that. we did it in ohio. you cannot do this with one party. ple republicans and democrats and street activists and law enforcement. you get everybody together and sit down and draft these things and then like back to bottom up. you can have all the federal law dictates and everything else but it's each police agency deciding that there are standards that police officers will understand, will be trained to and will be
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held accountable to. this can be done. this absolutely can be done. we did it in our state. we can do it nationally. >> yeah. governor, thank you for coming on. nice to see you again. >> kate, good to see you again and we'll have better times. i know we will have better times. god bless. >> we will. what better is quite relative. i feel like the bar is lowered significantly. governor, thank you. >> thank you. coming up for us, a dire new warning of a possible second wave of coronavirus this fall as more than a dozen states are seeing new cases and new hospitalizations jump up. the minneapolis police chief says that they're hiring a company to build an early warning system to help weed out bad officers, officers who pose a potential doing tore the public. we'll talk to the ceo of that company of how exactly this works and means for minneapolis. a grandfather of 14. a newlywed... a guy who just got into college...
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there are now more than 2 million confirmed coronavirus cases in the united states, 20 states are trending in the wrong direction right now. cnn's ed lavandera in dallas, texas. natasha chen in greenville, south carolina. ed, many point to the fact that states are opening up and there's more testing going on in the states that are showing that's why there are more cases, one might see an uptick in cases. is that the case in texas or are you seeing evidence there's something more going on? >> reporter: right now if you kind of dig into the numbers to see, this is based on an average of what's reported here in texas over the course of the last week, we have seen an uptick in the number of new cases being reported. we are up over on average of more than 1,700 new cases per day and not seen numbers that high since this pandemic started. number of new tests and tests
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being done is slightly below that so even though the tests are going up and number of tests done daily going up, the number of new cases reported is at a higher rate than the new cases being -- new testing being done and then if you look more closely and what state officials are looking toward is really monitoring the hospitalization situation and that is of concern because now we're reporting 2,100 hospitalizations in last 24 hours and not seen those numbers since the pandemic started. one silver lining is that in terms of hospital bed, hospital bed space, icu bed space, ventilators, texas seems to be in good shape coming to that. we are in phase three of the reopening of the economy here in texas and texas was on the leading edge of reopening things here. late april, early may when the push to reopen the economy started and the governor of texas told a local tv station in
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lubbock in the last day plans to continue and fully reopen the economy by july fourth so we'll see how that plays out here in the weeks ahead. >> natasha, what's the situation in south carolina? >> reporter: right. so we are also seeing an upward trend in the number of daily new cases. if you look at the last 14 days, we are also seeing unfortunately an upward trend in hospitalizations, even the percentage of positive tests higher in the last few days come parred to the month before so this is all going kind of in the wrong direction. where i'm standing here in greenville county is a hot spot according to the state epidemiologist saying that several cases stemmed from households of families spreading the virus among each other. here's what she said about the recent uptick in numbers. >> i have to say that today i am more concerned about covid-19 in south carolina than i have ever
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been before. for the past two weeks we have seen some of our highest daily numbers since the pandemic began. we need everyone's help in re-emphasizing how critical for every one of us every day to wear a mask in public an ento stay physically distanced. >> reporter: that's why i'm wearing a mask here out on the public street and there aren't a lot of other people doing the same, a lot of people we're seeing waughing around with no mask on and that's similar to what i observed a couple of weeks ago in myrtle beach, south carolina, over memorial day weekend and south carolina was among the first of states to shut down to businesses to announce reopenings, kate. >> that's right. ed, natasha, thank you. joining me is andy slavik. andy, it is great to have you on. these numbers, seeing them in more than a dozen state that is the numbers are really seeing a spike right there. i want to kind of get your take
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on where you think we are with fighting this virus because that official in south carolina, she says she's more concerned about the coronavirus now than ever and we are three months in and a lot of people acting like this thing is over. >> that's a great point. i've been on the phone with a number of different state officials today and the thing to remind the public about is that this is base level this is how viruses behave. this is how they behave and some level nobody's fault and we start i think our dialogue saying it's the protesters' fault or memorial day fault or governor or president's fault and yes it is true how we react and how we respond as political leaders and people in the community we do control that and there's accountability there but at some level i think this denial begins by people feeling like this news is news to sweep under the rug and point of fact
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only a very small portion of the country's been infected even though we did a great job of staying home in april nothing magically happened to the virus to make it less infectious so even if the governors telling us that the bars are open or churches are open, that doesn't mean that they're safe and so we need both political leaders and people in the community to understand that they have to protect their own safety from a virus that's still a risk to them. >> i want to ask you about there's a new study out of the uk showing the very important and positive impact that wears face masks has had and could have and the study said that widespread use of face masks to prevent a second wave and a study you were looking at closely and highlighted. can you give me a take on why this study is so important? >> yes. i'm glad you asked about it. it's consistent with several
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other studies which essentially show that if you get the majority of people wearing masks, the virus really has no place to go. i remember my mask to teprotect and yours protects me. when the virus spreading less than 1.0 it dies very quickly and for proof of that look at the czech republic. the czech republic wore masks for a short period of time and now they have basically eradicated the virus at least for now and able to go back to the work and their jobs without masks. i have been a proponent of saying if president trump did one thing, if he wore a mask and encouraged supporters to wear a mask three weeks straight he would be -- he would be sitting here four or five, six weeks from now with much of the virus behind us and so that's the kind of leadership that i know he doesn't want to put forward for a variety of reasons but if he did it's a simplest thing to
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save a lot of lives and get the economy back. >> so many thoughts. one being i have never really understood what the distaste or fear or dislike of wearing a mask is. it is really easy to do. it really doesn't do anything, doesn't change anything. it is strange to me that people have such a problem with mask wearing, certain people. a segment of the population i guess i could say but on that point one thing we are definitely not seeing is we haven't seen an update from the white house task force anymore n weeks and no more information leading the way. one said they think the white house has thrown the towel in and you see this picture that mike pence put out and then deleted of a campaign office and very obviously zero masks and zero social distancing happening there in that office. from a public health standpoint, andy, what is the impact of if you don't have leadership from the white house, when you're
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facing down a crisis like this? >> to my knowledge, dr. birx has been asked not to speak to the press any longer. remember, dr. birx was the person who put forward the gated reopening plan. that the country's no longer following. the day after she put that plan out president trump tweeted liberate minnesota, liberate michigan. he clearly wasn't on board and wants to pooh pooh the scientists and one thing to change that, one thing i believe to get trump to take this seriously again and that's losses in the stock market because he does pay as we all know riveting attention to that. as for your point on masks, if you have a face like mine it's easy because you don't feel like you lose anything. maybe the president believes everyone needs to see his face all the time and that's something important, special to look at and maybe that's the issue but i think most of us can control our vanity enough to say
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that there's a lot at stake here. >> i'd say so. good to see you, andy. thank you so much. next for us, a change promised by the minneapolis police chief, an early warning system to alert the department of bad behavior by officers. the role that this new technology could play in police reform is next. s a second for an everyday item to become dangerous. tide pods child-guard pack helps keep your laundry pacs in a safe place and your child safer. to close, twist until it clicks. tide pods child-guard packaging. i was told to begin my aspirin regimen, blem. and i just didn't listen. until i almost lost my life. my doctors again ordered me to take aspirin, and i do.
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new video released and an arrest under investigation. you see here. just released body cam video showing officers in oklahoma, tulsa, oklahoma, arresting a black teenager and handcuffing another one last week for, get this, jaywalking as they were walking down a peaceful street with which also appears to not have a sidewalk in any view. you can tell right there. the video shows an officer force a teenager on to his stomach before arresting him and the second handcuffed and also repeatedly telling the friend that it is not worth it to fight back. watch. >> why are you putting handcuffs on me? >> because. >> why are you putting handcuffs on -- >> all he was doing is jaywalking. >> does he have anything? act a fall like that. >> i appreciate you being cool, man. >> the tulsa police department says that it cannot comment while an investigation is under way. so that is that.
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but also in minneapolis, the center of the nationwide unrest as protests there after george floyd was killed by a now former minneapolis police officer, the police chief there promises that they will be better, laying out some reforms yesterday in his department tacking on right now and also saying that more is also coming. part of the solution the chief says is data and using it to identify and then get rid of police officers who commit misconduct before they do something like we saw with derek chauvin that we saw. will be here to the chief. >> chief, in your remarks you mentioned the use of realtime data to intervene with problematic officers or interactions. can you go more into dedale what that means and what the community would expect that to mean when the problems arise in the public? >> yes. so we have been very fortunate to bring a benchmark and lit eks which is a national company that
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expertise and specializes in this. >> so joining me right now is ceo of benchmark analytics hired there as the police chief mentioned. thank you for coming in. can you help us understand how this works? how do you weed out bad police through technology? >> yeah. you know, the university of chicago starting about ten years ago, kate, began to do a longitudinal research to understand and ask a question, can you use every day data exists in police departments to identify officers who are off track, officers engaged in fundamentally problematic conduct? benchmark was used to that research and operationalize it and the punch line is that it's predictable. we know through research, through data, the officers that are going to be and are involved in these kinds of incidents. >> that's really interesting. what are the types of -- so
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sorry. with the delay between our feeds. what are the types of behaviors or actions that the system flags? how does it work? >> yeah. you know, so we use as many as 25 different data variables to identify problematic patterns. these are patterns that the research identified. when you see these patterns you know you will have problems and will have them with specific officers. and so what we do is analyze the data, we look for these kinds of problematic patterns and provide that information that's very descriptive to police leaders, to organizations like the minneapolis police department, the minneapolis chief, so that they can intervene, determine what are the right next steps to hopefully get the officer back on track or at the very least intervene before you have a horrific incident of the type we have seen on video occur. >> ron, this is an impossible
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kind of question but it is kind of the fundamental question you're looking at in minneapolis, right? can you say with any level of confidence that data analysis that like what your company can provide could have or would have prevented george floyd's death? >> look. that's a very complicated answer to that question of that specific case. i can tell you that there are identifiable patterns that unequivocally identify problematic behavior. when you have an officer involved in problematic conduct they tend to work with other officers involved in problematic conduct and that can create a core of problems, whether that's in a precinct, a part of town. and what we do is we partner with police agencies to identify where you have those problems so that you can get in front of it and what's different about this next chapter of police reform, because as you know and i know
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this is talked about for 100 years, the professional model of policing in the '50s to solve it, '70s and the community policing in the '90s and nothing, there's been a lot of great progress but fundamentally we can see from the rage across the nation that things haven't changed and i would argue the single biggest difference about the opportunity before us for this next chapter of police reform, however it will be written, is whether we use modern data tools to identify where the problem exists and take action. because -- >> more data -- more data and more transparency i think is definitely, definitely part of the solution going forward for sure. thank you for coming on. real really appreciate your time. new for us, the sign at economic pain of the pandemic continues. 1.5 million americans filing unemployment claims last week, first-time unemployment claims. what this means for the road ahead.
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at walmart. new jobless number this is morning showing another 1.5 million americans filed for first-time unemployment claim last week which means 44.2 million americans applied for benefits in past 12 books sense the economy shut down over the coronavirus. joining me right now is mark sandy at moody analytics. what do you think the people learn from the number this is week and the trend that we are seeing? >> thank you. well, the trend is things are improving. if you go back a few weeks, a couple months ago we were
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getting 6 million, 7 million nirnl claims for unemployment insurance every week but the message is we have a long, long way to go. you know? just to give you context, in a reasonably good economy we would be getting 200 to 250,000 initial claims for unemployment insurance. it's long way from 200k to 250k and people are still losing the jobs and indicates the recovery is a slog, it's going to be sliflt. >> in terms of the recovery, the fed chair suggesting now coming to unemployment a full recovery is unlikely to occur until 2022. do you see that, as well? >> seems very likely to me. we'll get a burst of jobs here june and july, august will feel pretty good. unemployment will come down and on the other side of labor day the unemployment rate will settle in to double digits and
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where we stay until we get a vaccine, therapy, something widely adapted and distributed in the globe and even after that we got a long hole to dig out of so i think the federal reserve's forecast is consistent with mine. even under the best of circumstances it won't be until 2023, 2024 until we get back to -- get out of that hole and something we feel comfortable with. >> help make sense of -- on the screen we have where the dow is now down over 1,000 today but make sense of kind of an overall what's really been the market bouncing back really aggressively and quickly. >> a couple things. one is the federal reserve has got investors' back saying yesterday, for example, that they will not be raising interest rates until after 2022 so if you're a stock investor you say that sounds pretty good
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and i'm going to buy stock. of course, the other reason i think investors they were buying -- kind of sort of hoping that there wouldn't be a reintensification of the virus and second wave and so-called v-shape recovery straight line forward and starting to re-evaluate that. clearly the information with regard to the virus isn't all that encouraging and then you listen to the fed chair tell you, look, this is going to be a long, difficult road. i think those things came together and thus the correction in the market. it's still tested, it is not a straight line up. >> you've said that you think we're out of the recession that began back in february. when you talk about kind of the uncertain road ahead, what do you think are the chances to dip back into another one before this is out? >> well yeah. i mean, that call that we are out of recession is based on two big ifs. if number one is if we don't
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have a second wave. you know? and that's the pretty tenuous assumption. second is that policymakers, congress and this administration, come together pretty quickly and pass another package of fiscal rescues to help the state and local governments so they don't lay off hundreds of thousands of middle income workers, teachers, because as i said on the other side of labor day we are going flat and un. close to 10% and if those workers run out of support they run for the bunker and the economy will go back to recession and we'll avoid a recession if we do the right thing here and don't have that second wave and we don't -- do get the policy support that we need. >> yeah. good to see you, mark. thank you. >> sure. a big announcement from nascar banning the confederate flag from all racetracks, how this major move is being received by drivers and fans. hey there people eligible for medicare.
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a historic move by nascar, it is banning confederate flags from all of its events and races after the sport's only full-time african-american driver bubba wallace called for the change. with me now sports anchor andy shoals. what is the reaction to this move? >> reporter: well, kate, many people applauding nascar for
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finally making the decision to ban the confederate flag. bubba wallace on cnn monday night speaking with don lemon said that the flag has no place at big-time sporting events like nascar races and should be banned and 48 hours later the voice was heard and nascar banning the confederate flag at the events going forward and wallace reacted earlier on "good morning america." >> it's a tough situation, been in a tough situation for a long time but this is the most crucial time and time is of the essence right now in the world we're in and nation that we are in to create change and create unity and come together and really try to be more inclusive. takes all of us, to create change and unity, love and compassion for everybody. >> reporter: the decision to ban the flag hours before wallace
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got into his car and raced in his car that had a black lives matter paint scheme. wallace finished 11th, best fennish, cup finish ever and he said it's the most important race of his life. there were no fans at martinsville last night and will be fans at nascar races soon. in miami on sunday, they will have about 1,000 fans there and then talladega in alabama on june 21st they allow 5,000 fans so that's when the first potential for the confederate flag to show up at a race would be, miami or alabama in the coming days and nascar has not yet announced how to plan to enforce the ban of the confederate flag. >> that's a good question. thank you, andy. coming up for us, cnn confirmed that u.s. spy planes flying over recent protests.
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cnn learned government spy planes flying over several of the protests sparked by the killing of george floyd. cnn tracked several aircraft, piloted and unpiloted over protests in washington, minneapolis and las vegas. government watchdogs fear the planes were used to track protesters and perhaps capture cell phone data. let's go to cnn aviation correspondent pete muntean. what is going on here? >> reporter: i'm following this for a week figuring out why the government planes were over the protest cities and congress is demanding it stop fooring it was used to capture cell phone data of protesters on the ground. this flight path of june 1st that protesters cleared from in front of the white house and took off in northern virginia,
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climbing to about 17,000 feet and circled washington, d.c. 20 times at low speed. the actual plane here is a se cessna but from being a pilot i know that this plane would not loiter in the highly restricted air space over washington and i point out what's on the belly of the plane. you can see that bump there in front of the wing. congress says it may have been used to carry a dirt box to capture cell phone data of those on the ground and not only flight over protest cities. national guard aircraft used for drug intradiction over protests for several nights in d.c. and las vegas. this is the type of plane used that infrared camera on the bottom and it can track anything to give off heat and the fbi is not confirming or denying the involvement in the flights.
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west virginia confirm -- west virginia national guard con frmed the involvement of the flights and don't know whether or not the flights stole data from those on the ground and government watchdogs call this a major overstep. congress asking for more questions. >> for sure. thank you all for joining us. brianna keilar picks up the coverage from here. brianna key la. the nation is experiencing profound change since the killing of george floyd memorial day. look at the transformation of policing. at least a dozen cities or states banned police use of chokeholds or strangleholds and the republican leader of the house said he supports the ban that's a key