west virginia confirm -- west virginia national guard con frmed the involvement of the flights and don't know whether or not the flights stole data from those on the ground and government watchdogs call this a major overstep. congress asking for more questions. >> for sure. thank you all for joining us. brianna keilar picks up the coverage from here. brianna key la. the nation is experiencing profound change since the killing of george floyd memorial day. look at the transformation of policing. at least a dozen cities or states banned police use of chokeholds or strangleholds and the republican leader of the house said he supports the ban that's a key priority. some cities cut police budgets

and more people than ever support black lives matter, both parties in congress crafting reform legislation, more cities and states calling for opening of records on past conduct of officers and making them public. we saw more departments quickly fire officers seen using excessive force and dmo demonstrators said they had officers walk with them in solidarity and americans experiencing a culture shift. more companies and brands acknowledging the problem and nascar just banned all confederate symbols, the nfl commissioner apologized saying the league was wrong not to listen to the players' protests during the national anthem. the ceo of crossfit resigning after saying he was not mourning for george floyd and groups received mayor donations including a $100 million pledge by michael jordan and nike and lebron james helped form a group

to protect voting rights. networks are pulling programming like "gone with the wind" and "cops." statues of figures including jefferson davis and christopher columbus are being toppled. sephora dedicated 15% of the shelf space to black-owned brands and americans want to know more. 15 of the 20 top selling books in thest right now about race, racism and white supremacy. the president appears to be digging in on racial, cultural wars including the refusal to even consider renaming the bases honoring confederate leaders. as for the military, it's the second time in a week that he's been rebuked by a pentagon loader. this morning joint chiefs

milley. saying this to the graduating class of the national defense university. >> as senior leaders, everything you do will be closely watched. and i am not immune. as many of you saw the result of the photograph of me at lafayette square last week. that sparked a national debate about the role of the military in civil society. i should not have been there. my presence in that moment and in that environment created a perception of the military involved in domestic poll sicks. as a commissioned uniformed officer it was a mistake that i have learned from. and i sincerely hope we all can learn from it. we who wear the cloth of our nation come from the people of our nation. and we must hold dear the principle of an apolitical military that is so deeply rooted in the essence of our republic. >> no remorse, however from the

president applauding how easily protesters handled by the national guard near the white house. milley's comments come days after mark es per publicly brok with the president. and for more now on this i'm joined by april ryan and gail harris, author of "a woman's war." captain harris also the highest ranking african-american woman in the navy when she retired in 2001. i'm so grateful to have both of you on here for this discussion. april, to you first. you have milley and esper having gone against president trump on this, right? what do you think this means for their futures? >> and that's a good question because any time someone goes against this president there's an ultimate firing or a separation and just bad words and bad vibes for a while.

but at the end of day we are in a political season and if this president does decide to do anything right now he's going to distance himself from those two. he cannot afford to cut off himself from the chief of the joint chiefs of staff and as well as the head of dod. he just cannot do that. >> captain, i wonder for you as you watched the chairman of the joint chiefs really trying to make amends for the fact that he was in that photo opportunity with the president. what your reaction was. >> well, i was happy to see it because it's against the military regulations to be at an event perceived as partisan or political in your uniform so he was supporting it. by apologizing he is reaffirming the department of defense policy. >> and so, what does that mean

when you have someone like milley and he's had a little time to think about what that meant for him to be there as the chairman of the joint chiefs wearing his uniform at a political event, what does that mean for soldiers, airmen, watching him? >> well, i think the fact that he apologized and he mentioned he made a mistake is reaffirming his capability as a good leader. he did come out and apologize and the standards are the same for all of us, flag officers to e1 as we call it in the military, the enlisted man. the policy's the same for everyone. >> captain, i want to ask you first and then, april, your reaction to this, the president saying that he's not even going to -- his administration is not even going to consider renaming military bases named for confederate military leaders. we had seen, captain, there was

a -- the defense secretary and other leaders were open, right? they were open to the bipartisan discussion on potentially closing the bases and then the president really shut that down. what did you think of that? >> i was disappointed. if you go back and look at history general lee himself was against monuments and things about the civil war saying that by keeping symbols alive it keeps the division alive and he was more on healing the nation to move forward so my hope is that if president trump looks into that or listens to people and the reasons for wanting to do that, that he'll change his mind. >> april, what do you think? i think i might know the answer whether you think he'll change his mind but what do you think he's doing shutting down consideration of changing the names of these bases?

>> first of all, he is going trying to galvanize his base in the midst of this moment where he does not seem to have strength, showing strength or a winning picture. you have to remember, number one, the u.s. military is one of the first agencies that was integrated in this nation in 1948. president truman officially integrated the military. two, when you talk about the confederacy, plain and simple, it is about slavery. the civil war was fought on the issue of slavery. and the confederacy wanted to keep slaves. that's end of story so in the midst of the racial moments, these racial upsets, unrest, outbreaks this president is showing that he is defiant about trying to heal this nation. this is a time when people are even talking about reparations for slavery and he is refusing

to take down anything that deals with the confederacy and nascar talking away the cone fed rat flag and the president saying he doesn't want to deal with that moment of taking away the names from fort bragg and other -- about ten other military bases that deal with confederacy at the time when you have black and brown soldiers on those bases. >> many of them -- >> can i add something to what april said? >> yes, please. >> i think people tend to forget the confederate war was over slavery. i have a quote of general grant, i felt like anything but rejoicing of a foe for i believe one of the worst -- for which a people ever fought and one for which there was at the least excuse and my personal belief over the years was that i would know that the civil war, of modern times, began with rosa

parks in 1955 was coming to a successful conclusion when general robert e. lee not seen as an honorable man but as a traitor fighting against his nation. >> captain, thank you so much for those closing thoughts. so important. captain, april, thanks to both of you for the conversation. so we as talk about the military i should also note that the president tweeted this morning that national guard troops who took care of the area around the white house that joined secret service, police as they were pushing back protesters, peacefully there, he called it taking care of area around the white house, could hardly believe how easy it was. a walk in the park one said. that's in the president's tweet. they handled, quote, protesters, agitators, anarchists very well.

okay. well, here's the thing. politico spoke to ten national guardsmen around the country who have been deployed, employed in -- coming to crowds in these protests and this also includes those who were involved in the president's photo-op and they said, quote, what i saw was just absolutely wrong. these are the quotes. what i saw goes against my oath. civil rights were being violated for a photo-op. and this one, what i saw was more or less really "f"'d up. for the column i write on cnn.com called "home front" we spoke with 11 military spouses, they're married to service members in the army, navy, air force, marines and the coast guard and they're black, white, hispanic, they're men and women. some of them are veterans

themselves. many of them have biracial children and they have organized and marched in support of black lives matter. one african-american navy spouse told us that she was screaming at the television while watching protesters peacefully being forcibly removed from the street a block from the white house. another said, quote, we don't serve this country to fight our own. a spouse of a chopper pilot thought what would happen if he her husband was asked to go patrol against our fellow citizens. air force spouse told me not everyone in the military thinks the same way and important to highlight that so the next generation doesn't believe they have to think one way. ahead, the president holding a first rally on juneteeth in tulsa, the sight of the 1920s massacre of black americans. the local naacp will join me live to respond. plus, the reality show

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the show is in the news for its involvement in the texas case of javier ambler. live pd crews riding along with deputies at the time and in a statement they said going forward we will determine if there is a clear pathway to tell the stories of the community and the police officers whose role it is to serve them. now former host of "live pd" dan abrams is joining me to discuss this. i want to talk about this case and "live pd" there with the police but first the show is canceled. what is your reaction? >> i'm disappointed. frustrated. i fought very hard to try to keep the show on the air. i thought there was a way to have a national discussion on this show about policing. you mentioned a moment ago that

"cops" and "live pd" canceled and there's a huge difference between those shows. "cops" is a crazy moments highlight reel but "live pd" followed officers realtime and see the beginning, middle and end of the story and i think it provided important context as there's a call nationally for more police officers to wear body cams, i would think we want more "live pd," not less. >> i know what you're saying of the tone of "live pd" because there are moments that kind of show you just normal traffic stops, that are not particularly eventful. police come off looking good in a lot of these videos. why was the video in the javier ambler case destroyed?

>> cops come off looking good in some and others don't. we keep tapes, we keep video for a few weeks and then we don't retain it any longer. why? because we feared that we were going to be used by law enforcement as a video repository, as a place to go and grab videos to prosecute citizens with. we didn't want to be that and there's a policy in place when and how to get rid of videos so that we wouldn't serve in that role. >> dan, the reverse is true here. not destroying the video protected the police. >> no. exactly. but that's my point is that in this particular case it was the reverse. right? which is, it would have been better to be able to still have it. let's be clear about something. the tape, the video was retained for three months per the request of williamson county investigating it. they asked "live pd" to hold on to it while that happened and

then informed "live pd" the investigation was over a year ago. that was the last anyone from "live pd" haerld about the video. now, looking back on it, do i wish that "live pd" retained it? yeah. do i wish there's more exceptions to the rule if place? yeah. but the policy was in place for exactly the opposite reason that many people are suggesting now. >> is all video destroyed? all raw footage is destroyed after 30 days or for -- per the length of the request? >> correct. >> is that what you're saying? >> yes. unless there's a legal request made in that period which the case here. right? williamson county did specifically ask, we want you to hold this. >> but did -- >> pending our investigation. >> did "live pd" consider an exception when people die? >> look. there should have been, right?

unfortunately there had been a number of videos that "live pd" had where people have died and typically don't show people dying on the air. that's another question that we could have re-evaluated but the point is that the motivation here wasn't, you know, wasn't a negative one. it wasn't to try to hide things. it was to try to avoid becoming an arm of law enforcement as we were there following them. again, i think if the show stayed on the air we were talking about changing the policies. so many of us advocating saying we have learned that this policy while may be motivated for the right reasons has to have some exceptions. >> you think now that the show should have aired this incident. tell me about that. >> well so, the show did not air it because per policy we don't show fatalities. i think one of the great things about "live pd" was the

transparency aspect. showing the good and the bad of policing and with that in mind i think in retrospect we probably should have showed this incident leading up to the fatality. it shows all sides of policing. there was a decision that was made simply based on a & e policy of not showing a fatality. these are the sort of things that we were in the process of discussing. how do we move forward? how do we have discussions with people in various communities who aren't happy with certain elements? let's talk about how we can make changes, how we can make this a better show. >> i guess i don't understand how you say it was transparent. oh. darn it. we lost dan abrams there. his signal. i wanted to continue that conversation. all right. dan abrams, thank you so much

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to understand what your wealth is really for. we are back now with dan abrams who's the former host now of "live pd," a show just canceled and, dan, just to reset for the viewers that didn't see part of previous conversation, "live pd" was on a ride-along with sheriffs in texas when the death of javier ambler happened last year after police tased him four times, pursued him 20-some odd minutes, he did not dim the lights passing other cars and to recontinue the conversation, last night you tweeted about the cancelation about the show and know we did everything we could to fight for you and for the

continuing effort of transparency in policing. i was convinced the show would go on. you saw some of the response to that. there was backlash from ice cube who wrote back a & e stepped up for the dignity of black people today and not perpetuating an on the hunt mentality in future law enforcement. america's love affair with jail and prison shows must stop. i wonder what your reaction is to that. >> so the vast majority of people who responded, responded positively to me agreeing with what i said. i fear sometimes that people who criticize the show didn't watch it. because very rarely was there specific criticism of things that happened on the show. i understand that people want to sort of generalize about genres but that's why i thought it was important to explain the difference between a show like "cops" and a show like "live pd" because live "live pd" at times

doesn't portray police officers in the most positive light. you can see shows where people say i can't believe that officer did that. why did that officer say this? et cetera. that's important. we're in a society where we're talking about how important it is for accountability and yet now we are saying we want to shut down the cameras coming to "live pd" so my perspective is different and didn't mean you can't at the same time support the protester, the protest, the cause of what they're trying to do enacting change. >> i want to ask you about something that tulsa world did in an investigation earlier this year. spoke to people who had not committed crimes but were featured on "live pd" and a woman said that the attention caused her great embarrassment. what do you say to innocent people who have had their lives turned upside down by being on the show?

>> look. i think that's what happens in the news business in general. "live pd" isn't a news show -- >> it is not a news show. it is an entertainment program. >> may be but the reasoning is still the same which is people are sometimes brought into situations that they don't want to be involved in because of certain things that happen. meaning, whether the police arrest someone, for example, let'sern talk about a trial -- >> these are people who are not arrested. these are people who are innocent. >> yeah. again, people arrested who are innocent to be very clear. just because, again, someone i understand may not be happy there were i should say a number of procedures in place to protect people's privacy. the reason we had a delay on the show to ensure we didn't release social security numbers, false allegations by a person against someone else, kids in the shots, et cetera. great lengths were went to --

that they went to to try to protect the privacy of individuals. there were certain people who were on public streets who were questioned, pulled over, whatever the case may be by the police. again, i know you don't like the comparison but in the news business when you are on the street on a public street they can film you there. and that's the same thing that would happen with us. but -- >> dan, you know the news business. that is not the news business. >> wait a minute. it is not the news business that we end up filming on street -- >> "live pd" is a news show? >> no. there's a news element to "live pd," absolutely. does not apply the same standards that a news show does but there's a lot of news elements, the people in the control room who worked at "live pd" with news backgrounds, the shooters. this is a documentary-style show and i think it's unfairly dismissive to simply say it's an

entertainment show because this is real life. these are police officers and real people involved. and we took all of that incredibly seriously. >> i guess i just want to ask you now that you have -- look, what we have seen in the last two weeks and a benefit of hindsight and know that the show emits key things, it doesn't show the whole picture. if it's a -- i can't imagine a documentary at all that doesn't show when people are killed at the hands of police. and i know you're saying that -- you know there's ways to communicate the truth of whans witho what happens without showing it but you rely on an a&e policy and hanging your hat on that and i just wonder with the benefit of hindsight what you think. >> it's horrible to have policies but that's the way you try to keep a show like this

within certain parameters. there was a policy. not to show fatalities on the air. again, i just told you that i think in retrospect we should have shown that but this idea of a documentary would be totally different, a documentary every day they show certain portions, clip it and put it together. we do that far less. we are riding along with them at times and not live when this happened. we weren't on the air when this happened. we didn't decide while we were on the air not to go to this. again, i think even on tape it would have been better now in retrospect to have shown the events leading up to it but that is not a fair in my view indictment on the whole of "live pd." >> in making the mistake as you admit certain things should have been shown that weren't, does it make sense to you that "live pd" an adjudicated to not something on tv because it made mistakes?

>> well no. again, i don't think that "live pd" not on the air because of that incident. "live pd" not on the air in my view because there's a massive movement in this country which includes for many people eliminating any programming involving police. i think when it comes to "live pd" that's a mistake. i think that we were preparring to have discussions about ways we could incorporate some of this recent activity, positive activity, positive change that's going on in the world. into the show. >> you don't think the javier ambler case had anything to do with why the show was canceled? >> i do. i'm saying i think it was a piece. i think it was one piece and actually i think of all the reasons that's not the right

one. you know, if you want to create reasons not to like "live pd" it seems to me that shouldn't be the one because if we had aired it at time we would have gotten criticism. i think we should have but we would have been criticized for showing that event at the time. i understand the concern about the retention of tape policy. right? i get that it's a hard thing to convince people of that actually it came from a good place of trying to avoid being an arm of law enforcement. and i also get that in retrospect a year later we should have kept it. but none of that to me goes to the fundamentals of what "live pd" is about. >> have you seen, dan, the family's reaction to the death of their son and wishing that this video had been out? >> i have. it's a first thing i mentioned

in the piece i wrote about this was how heartbroken i was watching the family of javier ambler and that i wish i, we, could do something to help them. and we don't have it. but let's also remember there is this body cam footage. this is not a situation where we don't know what happened. where we can't see what happened. that's not to say, oh, therefore you guys are totally off the hook. no. but there is body cam footage and the -- i wish that people were focusing more on the investigators in this case saying, wait a second. why didn't you ask "live pd" to hold the video? why didn't you demand the video? why didn't you use it as part of the investigation? those are the questions i think are the first roun of questions and then the second round of

questions of "live pd" but i'm amazed that's not the focus of the attention here opposed to on a program that promotes transparency in policing. >> that doesn't show the whole story. i want to be clear about that, dan. you leave stuff out. >> what does that mean? what does that mean? >> you leave -- by your own admission there are things that are not shown and communicating on the program. >> right. because we follow eight departments at once and there is no way to do all of that at one time in a three-hour show. that is true. this event -- >> the reason, dan? >> think about that. so when someone says when there are three press conferences in the news event and someone says how did you not play all three news events? we had to make a choice between the events. i know you don't like the comparison to news but that's a reality. >> it is not a matter of liking. it is a matter of apples to

oranges but i guess, dan, listening to you i hear a legalistic argument which i guess i don't find particularly surprising but talking about the death of someone and the video of someone and, yes, i hear you saying there's other video of it. well, there are potentially other incidents not body cam video of something and when "live pd" given entertainment value to go along with police officers it just gives the sense of kind of hiding behind policies and washing your hands and not having sort of a social responsibility. >> yeah. >> when your -- you're utilizing the people who are in -- right? you're using the stories of the people who are in these videos and i hear you saying it's transparency. i don't know that it's social responsibility. >> then i think you are not listening to what i'm saying

because, again -- >> oh, i'm hearing you loud and clear, dan abrams. >> let me say it again to make sure you hear me. so when we're talking about transparency for police, talking about the reason you want body cams, the reason so many advocates are rightfully calling for body cam to be more uniformly used, process to be more uniform, et cetera, what we are saying is that we want to be able to see more of how police do what they do. your position is that if you can't show everything it's not worth showing. and i would just disagree with that as a concept and again i think that you are underestimating how much time and effort every show went into standards and practices associated with that program same way that they do in the news program. >> all right. dan abrams, we will have to

lei leave it there. thank you for coming on. >> thank you, brianna. right now coronavirus cases are on the rise and so are the number of hospitalizations in at least a dozen states. as the nation gears up for a possible second wave of coronavirus, testing remains critical but many communities are struggling to provide the tests and actor sean penn's organization c.o.r.e. is bringing free testing to areas in need. his latest partnership is with new york state and sean penn is here now to talk about this. sean, thank you so much for coming on to highlight the work you're doing and if you can just tell me what kind of impact the surge have been having on your testing sides. >> thank you for having me. you do your job very well. great to see you challenge that used car salesman selling everything and saying nothing

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and i'm prone to align with them. the protesters themselves are that which protects our democracy so we owe them to protect them, as well. so we are beginning a pilot program tomorrow 12th in washington, d.c. in coordination with the mayor's office as well as the movement for black lives and curative labs that's an exceptional partner in the condition and doing protested testing and then again looking at the dates here, 19 through 21 june also in d.c. and hope to see a return on that in the sense that protesters participate, participate at six-feet distance in the lines with masks and that we are able to offer them the assistance that they're offering the greater republic. >> last night the vice president tweeted and then he actually deleted, it was a photo that shows a large group of trump campaign staff not wearing face

masks, certainly not social distancing, the opposite of what pence's own coronavirus task force recommends. i wonder what your reaction is when the person in charge of this showing behavior that isn't modeling his recommendations. >> i think we should see by now that we're not going to get the lead from leadership but we saw when the vice president came to the mayo clinic, for example, that he walked in without a mask in a relative sense it's the same dynamic that happened with these passive police officers who allowed the horrible crime to take place. they have a moral and professional duty to stop it, the same thing that the clinic failed allowing vice president pence in. this is time for citizens to take the lead and unfortunately and particular citizens of color are taking that lead and we are looking to support, assist, coordinate with them in every way that is represented by

peaceful protest and scientific fact-based testing and support. >> the task force for the coronavirus, the white house task force, is expected to be meeting later today, going to meet behind closed doors. we have heard less from the nation's top health officials, dr. anthony fauci and dr. deborah birx, here in recent weeks and i wonder what impact you think that may have on the country as you say you want to align yourself with scientific opinion. >> the first thing i would say is that any of us who are responsible are listening carefully enough that we do hear dr. fauci. he is on the record, he is working where the daylight between he and the leadership is something that i defer to his navigation of but he's been a seminole lead in this. i can also say, must say, that like with any of these things and this won't be a popular comment for many people whom i

otherwise agree with on many things, great people working in that task force and don't agree with the reluctance to speak out but i do know that i can say that within th force we have had assistance, navajo nation, 30,000 additional kits per month, the leadership at large has to be the people and we've got to take the value from those who are offering it and the way they can with their expertise from any office in this country and i applaud dr. fauci and i think that, you know, i would just say that for anyone who has not heard his voice lately or heard it enough he's on the record and we're going to stay the course on the lane that he set. >> sean penn, thank you so much. and thanks for coming on to tell us about the work you're doing. >> thank you very much. can i just do a quick shout out? >> actually, i have a shout out

for you right here. if you would like to know more about what c.o.r.e. is doing, go to the website on the screen, coreresponse.org/covid-19. that's right, isn't it, sean? >> that's correct and also check out world central kitchen. they feed the front line staffers, protesters and elderly. the partnerships are what make things work. >> thank you. we really appreciate you coming on. >> appreciate you. thank you. the president holding his first rally on juneteenth in tulsa. the local naacp will join me live to respond and speaking of tulsa, a police major under fire for saying that they shoot black americans less than they ought to. and a white nascar driver says he is quitting after the sport banned confederate flags and symbols at races. i've been on and off oral steroids to manage my asthma.

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following community uproar. it shows the young men walking during the middle of the street before, during and after officers approaches. >> just chill out. >> what are you doing? >> what you guys doing? why you trying to choke his neck? >> nobody's choking him. just chill out. chill out, coz. >> why you putting your hands on him? why you arresting him? why you putting handcuffs on him? >> because. all he was doing is jaywalking and we just want to talk to him and he wanted to act a fool like that. >> i'm just trying to tell you he has nothing on him. >> the teen struggling with the officer was arrested. tulsa police say the internal affairs unit is investigating this. this as another officer on the

police force is under investigation for saying police are not killing enough black people. >> all of our research shows we're shooting african-americans about 24% less than we ought to be based on crimes being committed. research is sound. that nobody's watching it ppt they're just looking at memes and losing their minds. >> and he defended those remarks to cnn, tulsa affiliate ktul. >> i'm not going to apologize because what i said was accurate based on the daylightau. i sited the data and said it's not me, it's the data. i know we live in an era where everybody's apologizing but, quite frankly, my apology is not going to make anything go away. >> and a black lieutenant on the police force says, quote, major

yates mebt what he said on the radio show and suggested he was trying to appease a certain audience, specifically law enforcement. what is your reaction to this and what the lieutenant said about him playing to an audience? >> are you talking to me? >> yes, i am, sir. >> well, i think it's just further -- you know, people actually going on sirius and police officers keep doing the same thing over and over and over. there's absolutely no reason to stop two young blacks and say they were jaywalking. especially the climate today with the recent killing of george floyd. and it seems to me police officers should be more sensitive about what's going on,

especially that they're being filmed in everything they're doing. >> and so that police major, who is essentially saying if you look at statistics and crimes committed, actually, he's saying they are shooting black folks less than they should be based on statistics. and he doesn't understand why it is a problem that he said that. what's your reaction to that? >> once again, it just goes to show the ignorance of the particular officer. the whole idea of police officers are to serve and protect. and having a quota of how many blacks you can kill or not kill or shoot or not shoot, that's not u that's not -- that's not what it's all about. and he's missing the whole point of the position he's serving in. he's supposed to be serving and protecting, not keeping track of

how many people he can shoot. >> i want to ask you about something different next friday on june 19th. the president will hold a campaign rally in tulsa, in your town, and the date is significant, right? juneteeth, this is so important when you're talking about slavery. tulsa was of course the site of the 1924 black wall street massacre where hundreds of black people were murdered and the entire town was really wiped out by a racist white mob. one of the worst racial atrocities in the u.s. and the 99th 99th anniversary was just last week on may 31st. what do you think of the president coming to tulsa on this important day, this hallowed day? >> juneteenth is a time when we

celebrate the fact that we were free. and we had to cancel this year because of the virus is going on. and then we had to cancel all the juneteenth activities and we find out the president is coming to enhance his political campaign. so, most of us in tulsa, oklahoma, we're not happy about that. if we have to cancel our activities, how can the president hold a rally during the same period of time? personally, i don't think the president's sincere about trying to change the mood of the country going on right now. and i'm certainly am not happy about him coming here, holding a political rally. >> plus, thank you for joining

us, head of the naacp chapter there in tulsa. we appreciate it. >> all right. thank you. ♪ hello. it is the top of the hour and we're watching america's reckoning. the nation is experiencing profound change since the killing of george floyd on memorial day. you can look at the transformation in policing. at least a dozen cities or states have banned the use of chokeholds or strangle holds. and the leader of the house says he supports the ban. some cities have cut police budgets. polls show more people than ever support black lives matter. both parties in congress are crafting reform legislation. more cities and states are calling for opening records on officer's past conduct and making them public.