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>> reporter: abby phillip, cnn, washington. >> and thank you very much to abby and thanks to you. "anderson cooper 360" starts now. >> erin, thanks. good evening. a moment of sweeping change in this country. on the question of race, injustice, the president of the united states today signaled his resistance to it and showed in ways we'll talk about tonight, how out of step he appears to be, where a significant part of the country now is. he's been building up to this for days. a senior adviser battled over whether he should address the nation on this subject. and one cabinet secretary said, stay tuned. >> i believe you're going to be hearing from the president this week on this topic in some detail. and i would ask you maybe to reserve judgment until after that time. >> well, the question tonight, did we just witness that moment that dr. ben carson was saying
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stay tuned for? were his remarks, were the president's remarks this afternoon to a hand picked roundtable in dallas all there is? if so, nothing much has changed. the president began today by praising himself. >> from day one, i've been fighting for the forgotten men and women of america. i think we've been doing a great job of it. >> he praised himself as he has many times already for low black unemployment until the plague from china arrived. the hen addressed the issue of systematic racism by alluding to it, then undermining the notion. ? >> recent days, there has been vigorous discussion how to ensure fairness, equality and justice for all of our people. unfortunate i, there are some trying to push an extreme agenda that will produce more poverty, more crime, more suffering. we have to work together to confront bigotry and prejudice
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wherever they appear. but will make no progress and heal no wounds by falsely labeling tens of millions of decent americans as racists or bigots. >> we have to work together to confront bigotry and prejudice wherever they appear, the president said. the question is, when has donald trump called out bigotry or prejudice when it's appeared? how often? when? we know he's familiar with bigotry and prejudice, his father practiced it in business, the business that his son continued in, and donald trump has promoted bigotry and prejudice in his words for decades. this we know. the question is, when has he called it out when it's appeared? perhaps the white house will provide examples. he went on to say that they will make no progress by "falsely labeling tens of millions of decent americans as racists or bigots." who's "they," the thugs he has spoken about protesting in the streets? the marches that have been
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taking place night after night throughout this country have not been saying that tens of millions of people are racist or bigots but asking for equal justice for everyone. they're asking for everyone to acknowledge the well-founded fear that african-americans experience in encounters with police every single day that white americans do not. it's also worth noting that throughout his remarks this afternoon, the president never once mentioned george floyd's name or breonna taylor or ahmaud arbery. he spoke instead of police being knifed, police being shot and when the country is talking about reforming police and math president spoke approvingly of force. >> i said, and people said i don't know if we like that expression. i said we have to dominate the streets. you can't let that happen, what happened in new york city, the damage they've done. [ applause ] you have to dominate the streets. and i was criticized for that
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statement. i made the statement, we have to dominate the street and they said that's such a terrible thing. guess what? you know who dominated the streets, people you don't want to dominate the streets and look at the damage they did. so i'll stick with that. and i think most of the people in this room, maybe every person in this room will stick to that. we're doing it with compassion. we're dominating the street with compassion because we're saving lives and saving businesses, we're saving families from being wiped out after working hard for 20, 30 years. >> dominating the streets with compassion. compassionate domination. it's an interesting concept for a democracy. it's an interesting concept, the idea of dominating the people who are paying the taxes that fund the domination but they're doing it compassionately according to the president. as we said, it was a carefully cure rated group he was speaking to, among those not invited, the dallas police chief, the county
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sheriff and the district attorney, all of whom are african-american. also not invited, three democratic members of congress, all three african-american. the president did say the administration is working to finalize an executive order to encourage police officers. but the main message was tarring protesters as a violent mob and barely acknowledging how rapidly and profoundly the country is changing all around him. whether it's cities and states banning chokeholds and neck restatements, nascar banning confederate flags, cities removing confederate monuments. today, the armed senate services committee adopted a measure for taking names off of military bases like ft. bragg. and general mark milley today
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apologized. here's what he told graduates at the national defense university in a speech today. >> everything you do will be closely watched, and i am not immune. as many of you saw a photograph of me at lafayette spark of me. that sparked a national debate about the role of military in a civil society. i should not have been there. my presence in that moment and in that environment created a perception the military involved in domestic politics. as a commissioned uniformed officer, it was a mistake that i have learned from. and i sincerely hope we can all learn from it. we who wear the cloth of our nation, come from the people of our nation. we must hold dear the principle of an apolitical military that's so deeply rooted in the very essence of our republic.
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>> and good for him. a leader admits a mistake. wasn't so hard. nobody is going to criticize him for admitting a mistake. the president might pay attention to general milley. cnn's chief white house correspondent jim acosta has more. the president talked about police, he also talked about his phrase that he used when the looting starts, the shooting starts and claimed that, you know, he just heard it over the years, a lot of people saying it over the years. the fact that you heard something, a lot of people just saying it over the years, that's not a good indication that it's a legitimate phrase or you might want to, if you're president, know where that phrase comes from. he claims even today he thought it came from i think the mayor of philadelphia when it came from a southern sheriff in miami in 1967. what did he say about police?
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>> reporter: exactly, anderson. the president is still having trouble answering that question. he said he's known about this phrase sometime, but mischaracterized what it's saying, saying when people are out looting sometimes people get shot. when the police chief of miami uttered that phrase in the '60s meant when you go out and loot you are going to get shot by police officers. as for the overall issue of police brutality, and this played out at the church he was speaking out earlier today, the president seemed to be spending more time lamenting the fact that officers are targeted in the line of duty. regrettably that is the case, more so than what happens to people like george floyd. and breonna taylor and all the other victims of police brutality that have been in the news over the last several years. and the president was asked about this on one of his favorite conservative news outlets and here's more of what he had to say.
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>> we are going to do lots of, i think, good things. but we also have to keep our police and our law enforcement strong. they have to do it right. they have to be trained in a proper manner. they have to do it right. again, the sad thing is, when you see an event like that, with more than eight minutes of horror, that's eight minutes really of horror, it's a disgrace. and then people start saying, well, are all police like that? they don't know? maybe they don't think about it that much. the fact is, they start saying well, police are like that. police aren't like that. most of the police officers are really good people. >> reporter: earlier today, anderson, the president pledged he will take executive action to take aim at some of these police tactics and professionalize law enforcement agencies around the country.
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but it's not clear whether any of these executive action also have teeth and whether or not the president will sign on to some of these proposed changes on capitol hill, even as republicans seem to be moving further ahead in terms of what they would like to see at this point. anderson? >> it seems so obvious now that the president is using this and talking about this in ways that he believes will best suit him for re-election. he talks about they, you know, the people that he's labeled thugs, protesters in the streets, and, you know, good, decent americans who they are calling racist. i mean, it's ault about division. is this the talk that ben carson was saying stay tuned for? i mean, is this all there is? >> reporter: anderson, it all appears to be about his base, and not about race. the president, you know, was on twitter earlier today defending
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the tactics that were used in lafayette park. praising the national guard, saying that it was all too easy the way they moved through those protesters on june 1st. obviously, there are people like secretary carson, officials inside the white house that we talked to from time to time who will say, no, the president wants to use some unifying themes and try to talk to the whole nation. but the end result, at the end of the day, either -- whether it's on twitter or in an interview with a favorite conservative news outlet, he's making appeals to his base. earlier today, the white house press secretary was defending the fact that the president is going to hold his first pandemic rally, rally in the middle of this pandemic in tulsa, oklahoma, the scene of one of the worst incidents of racial violence against african-americans in the country of this his try, doing it on june 19th, the day that emancipated slaves first learned about the emancipation proclamation down in texas. so the white house secretary
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trying to say the president understands all of that. if he doesn't understand the expression when the looting starts, the shooting starts, it's hard to imagine that he's well versed in that history he appears to be treading into when he has this rally next week. it seems to be time and again, anderson, just a failure to grasp the reality on the ground and on the streets where people are clamoring for change, anderson. >> or the flip is true, he absolutely grasps the reality on the streets and what is actually happening. he just doesn't like it and wants to try to stop it as best he can. we just got the sound of him, you know, justifying his use of, you know, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. let's look at what he is claiming now. >> so that's an expression i've heard over the years. and -- >> do you know where it comes from? >> i think philadelphia, the mayor of philadelphia. >> no, it comes from 1967, i was
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about 18 months old at the time. but it was from the chief of police in miami. he was cracking down, and he meant what he said. he said i don't even care if it makes it look like brutality, i'm going to crack down, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. that frightened a lot of people. >> it also comes from a very tough mayor who might have been police commissioner, but the mayor of philadelphia named frank rizzo. and he had an expression like that. but i think it's been used many times. it means two things. very different things. one is if there's looting, there's probably going to be shooting and that's not as a threat, that's just a fact, because that's what happens. and the other is, if that's looting, there's going to be shooting. very different meanings. >> interesting. >> very different meanings. >> by the way, frank rizzo was a
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miss commissioner in philadelphia in 1968 to 1971. i mean, the police force, you know, police forces in the late '60s and early '70s in the city of philadelphia, in new york, those were very different police forces, even than they are right now. so, you know, the idea that he's quoting frank rizzo is not necessarily going to -- i mean, it's not the greatest -- i believe his statue was just targeted in philadelphia as well. but the idea that the president, you know, believes it's a nuanced phrase meaning multiple things, everybody knows what it means. we're not idiots. >> reporter: that's right. and he appears to relish this role of unleashing police forces in whatever city he sees fit. and anderson, we still haven't had a chance to press the president on what took place in lafayette square behind me. they took down the fence at the park, and he still has not been
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pressed on these brutal, ridiculous tactics that were used to clear out the protesters were people were pummelled and gassed by their own government. and the president, if he can't handle these questions on fox, it's hard to imagine how he's going to handle these questions when they're finally put to him. you know, they have them in a news bunker right now, but i can't imagine he'll be able to handle those questions very well. you know, talking to people around him, he is still in this base mode where he thinks he can divide his way all the way to november and seems to be doing that right now, anderson. >> yeah. jim acosta, maybe he can. thank you very much. joining me now is my panel.
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van, the president's event was billed as a round table on justice disparities. he department focus on police violence against african-americans. he didn't talk about systematic racism or, you know, he's trying to make this, you know, thugs in the streets calling police officers and decent quote unquote americans racists and bigots. most of the people i know, the protesters are talking about systematic problems within police forces, not necessarily even individuals and everybody is a racist, it's systematic problems that are engrained in the justice system, in the health care system, in the education system and on and on. >> well, listen, the mere fact that we're having this conversation at this level, i'm not going to let anybody steal my job today. yes, we're now trying to explain systemic racism in a country
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where nascar says they're not going to fly the confederate flag anymore. where the nfl is apologizing for not supporting the protests earlier. the dominos are falling, through the young people of america. the irony here is that donald trump got into office by navigating the choppy waters of a populist uprising in the country in our party, you have the bernie sanders uprising. in 'tis party, it was the donald trump uprising. he should recognize a populist uprising when he sees one. but instead, this is a populist uprising against the status quo on race in this country. we're tired of the videos and the stuff going on. and he's having a hard time navigating it, because it doesn't fit with what he expects from populism in the country. but this is a populist uprising, too. so i'm not going to let anybody steal my joy. we don't even know what we're in right now. we are in a moment that's
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maybe -- history will call it maybe a great awakening, where people have come together. there is a new consensus that has emerged. and people are moving on to get stuff done at all levels of society. the trump administration still has an opportunity to be a more constructive part of this process, but the reality is, the reason he's even talking about this, and the reason we're talking about this is because tens of millions of ordinary americans, black, white, and otherwise, are in the streets right now, wanting a better way forward, and the dominos are falling in only one direction. >> professor brown marshal, just yesterday the president's top economic adviser larry kudlow says he doesn't believe there is systemic racism in the united states. if the president, if his top aides deny there is a problem, how can they be part of the solution? >> well, they can't be. and that's why people are in the streets. we can't expect a man, donald
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trump, who abused his power, to stop other people, the police officers, from terrorizing the black community and abusing their authority. there are the majority of police officers who do good work. they go into this job to help people, and there are the rogue police officers who are outright terrorists. and we saw it with derek chauvin, that he was terrorizing the black community and has probably been terrorizing the black community for many years, teaching younger officers how to terrorize the black community. so i had a chance to actually talk with the daughter of george wallace, and george wallace knew when he ran for office that he was running to office on a ticket of racism. and he used it to propel himself to a national stage. donald trump is doing the same thing. but i'll tell you this, his daughter apologized for what her father did. and history is going to have the children or the grand children of donald trump apologizing to
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this country for what he is doing. >> well, there's no doubt e ivankaa tru a is going to wantl clothes and shoes to people. there's no doubt she's going to go on a campaign of reinvention when her father is out of office. david, the reference the president made to frank rizzo and the phrase, when the looting starts, the shooting starts, rizzo was someone known for police brutality. if you were the police commissioner in 1968 to 1970 in the city of philadelphia, you knew a thing or two about brutality. >> yeah. if you looked up racism and brutality in the dictionary, you would find frank rizzo's picture. he brutalized his citizens, particularly his citizens of color. and he celebrated that. and ultimately, man fran for man
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that platform as the president is trying to run for what he calls a law and order platform here. but he could not have invoked a worse symbol than frank rizzo, who is exactly what america is saying we need to leave in the past. we need to confront that past, and we need to address that past. you know, the president talked about, you know, police officers who risked their lives, some get shot. he's absolutely right. and i agree with what was said. most of them do a fine job in many cases. but when a police officer gets shot, the whole force of the criminal justice system comes down on their assailants. when a police officer harasses or in the case of george floyd, kills someone, that is a question. you know, it is very rare in america for a police officer to
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be disciplined for that. these are systemic problems. they are wrong, they are part of a larger problem. i agree with van. i am really encouraged. i think the president, you know, the only math he does is division, but i don't think he's reading the math of this moment right as he's running for re-election, because this country is much more united than he thinks. and it's united on the other side of this debate. people were shocked by what they saw in minneapolis. they were shocked by what they saw in georgia. and there is an awakening going on. and he is still pushing the same old buttons, hoping for the same reaction. i think he's getting less and less of a response. >> david axelrod, van jones, thank you very much. coming up next, wlrn we are tired of the coronavirus, the virus is not tired of us. and chicago's mayor joins us as members of the police force war
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caught on tape lounging around in a congressman's office, drinking his coffee. the congressman says with police in the streets, and looting nearby. we'll be right back. can i finm with a truly long-term view that's been through multiple market cycles for over 85 years? with capital group, i can. talk to your financial professional or consultant for investment risks and information.
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today, the state of south carolina reported the highest single day number of coronavirus cases since the outbreak began. so many states are lifting more restrictions as cases are spiking. last night, we reported on new projections of another 100,000 virus deaths in this country by depth. now there's a new projection from the university of washington, and it too is sobering. joining us, dr. chris murray, the director of the university's institute for health metrics and evaluation. dr. murray, your model now predicts nearly 170,000 deaths by october 1. how do you get to that number? >> so we're taking into account, anderson, you know, the big
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surge in mobility that we've been seeing unfold since the end of april. and that's going -- is driving up transmission. we now have survey data that's collected every day that tells us the number of contacts people are having, and that's going up and that's going into the model. and those -- that trajectory is being balanced against a good fraction of america, maybe 40% wearing mave ining masks at all improved testing, and seasonality working in our favor. but all of that starts to turn in august. and so we're going see this sort of very slow decline. some states going up like arizona. but nationally, numbers going down. but the whole thing turns around at the end of august, and we go from just under 400 deaths a day
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all the way up to about 1,000 deaths a day by the end of september, by bodes badly past october 1. >> and how can you specify that it's at that -- at the end of august, that there is that term? >> well, what that comes from is that we found a really strong relationship by looking back in the past, in the last ten years in the united states by state, by week of deaths from pneumonia. and we have found that that variable, you know, the number of deaths each week from pneumonia, is really predictive of what's going on in the u.s. in aggregate. it's one of the things giving us quote protection against all the increased mobility that's out there and contact. and that turns around at the end of august. and so kids start to go back to school mid august. so those two come together and that really is going to drive transmission, we think, way up at that point. >> it certainly seems people have -- or at least governors,
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the president, others have made the choice. we have to get businesses back online, we have to get going again as an economy. and one can argue about that. but given that reality, that things are opening, and moving, and maybe that will change at some point if it gets really bad, maybe it won't. but regardless, there is still a thing that individuals can do. i mean, we know what works to slow this, to protect one's self. and it's wearing a mask. it's social distancing. people -- i mean, if people feel deflated hearing this, that there's going to be this potential, you know, surge at the end of august, 170,000 deaths by october, there's still things as an individual you can do. >> there's a lot we can do. you know, masks really work. systematic analysis, and we've done our own on that, shows about a 50% protection.
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and, you know, only 40% of americans always wear a mask. and that number is not getting higher. it's probably going to start dropping. that's one way to really prevent. and then there's just the number of people, close contacts that people are having. back in mid april, the number of close contacts that people had was really, really small. it's just been steadily rising since then. those are two things that are within the control of people. and then we'll see if governors, if things get ready bad in november or later, what will happen at that point. >> hmm. dr. chris murray, i appreciate you being with us. thank you very much. sobering. it's important to hear. up next, breaking news, the president threatening to send troops into a major american city. we'll get reaction on the ground in seattle, swi the city he's talking about. and what the chicago police department plans to do after a group of police officers are caught on camera lounging in a congressman's office.
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the congressman says there was nearby looting at the same time. the officers were drinking his coffee and chilling out, even eating his popcorn. we'll talk to the mayor of chicago ahead. and more one of a kind finds. it all ships free. and with new deals every day you can explore endless options at every price point. get your outdoor oasis delivered fast so you can get the good times going. ♪ wayfair. you've got just what i need. ♪
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even as reporting emerges how close the president came to sending active duty troops into washington, d.c. before being persuaded not to, he's threatening to do the same in seattle, where protesters are occupying part of the city. the governor saying, although unpermitted, the area is largely peaceful. the president is calling on him to use force or he will, he claims.
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>> we're not going to let this happen in seattle. if we have to go in, we're going to go in. the governor, let the governor do it. he's got great national guard troops. one way or the other, it's going the get done. these people are not going to occupy a major portion of a great city. >> cnn's dan simon is in seattle for us. dan, can you describe what is going on where you are, and explain to people what's actually happening? >> reporter: well, it's a pretty remarkable scene out here. behind me is the seattle police station overtaken by these protesters. it's totally been defaced. look at the signs, where it says seattle people department, where it used to say seattle police department. you can see the windows have been boarded up. let me explain, anderson, how this all came to pass. for several days in the wake of george floyd's death, you had
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violent clashes between protesters and police officers here in front of this department. and tear gas was deployed. it was not a pretty scene. the department made the calculated decision that they were going to try to deescalate things and essentially abandoned the department. well, when that happened, you had protesters essentially flood the zone and that's what you have today. you can see behind me, all these protesters here. now, despite the fact that this all began with force, this -- what you're seeing in front of me, is a peaceful situation. in fact, it sort of looks like a street festival. look behind me. you can see all these people in the street. there's food being served. there's a medical tent. people are camping out. there's live music at night. they're watching movies. so it's sort of a contradictory situation. on the one hand, it began with force, but right now it's peaceful.
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anderson? >> and if the president were to quote go in as he's threatened, what -- i mean, what would the response be? can people come and go from this area? is this an area that has been -- i mean, the president makes it sound like this is an area taken over and is being ruled by, you know, somebody -- is being ruled by, you know, by -- i don't know how we would describe them. >> reporter: yeah. folks can certainly come and go. this area has been traditionally a community, a neighborhood where they're a bastion of free speech and people have come together. now, if, in fact, there is going to be federal officers or federal law enforcement come to this area, it is not going to be a pretty situation. these people have made it clear, unless there's major reform. and remember, they want to see
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this police department defunded or even abolished, short of a major concession, they're not going to leave voluntarily. and we should point out, washington is an open carry state. and no doubt, some of these protesters are armed. so you have to worry about the potential for bloodshed and violence if they try to remove them by force. anderson? >> dan simon, thanks. now to chicago. an allegation of police misconduct caught on camera. take a look. the mayor of chicago says up to 13 city police officers, including three supervisors were caught just hanging out in congressman bobby rush's campaign office last week, as nearby businesses were being looted. here's what the congressman said about the officers at a press conference this afternoon. >> they had the unmitigated gall to go and make coffee for themselves and to pop popcorn,
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my popcorn, in my microwave, while looters was tearing apart businesses within their sight, within their reach. >> so the mayor of chicago there, sitting next to congressman rush. and the mayor of chicago joins me now. thanks so much for being with us. how did this happen? >> you know, it's really quite mind boggling. and it's almost impossible to believe that it's true. but yet we have five hours of videotape documenting exactly what happened. earlier in the day, looting started in a strip mall. the congressman's campaign office was broken into, and in the early morning hours, these police officers decided to help themselves. started out with the small group, and then grew over time
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to 13 officers, including blee, what we call white shirts, meaning three supervisors. it's one of the most disgraceful, disrespectful things that i've ever seen. and we are absolutely not going to tolerate it. >> you know, regardless of the -- what may happen to each of these officers, just in general, one of the big questions about reforming police departments is disciplining how officers are disciplined and whether or not, you know, they can be disciplined, what happens to them. how difficult is it -- i mean, you said this is going to do something about this. what can you actually do? how difficult is it to actually discipline police officers? >> well, it's not difficult. they do have extraordinary due process rights, which is in and of itself a problem that we've got to fix. we've got to start by licensing
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police officers. i called for that today. we've got to change state laws so we have a baseline of conduct that's acceptable, and we eliminate the problem of so-called pass the trash, where an officer gets disgraced, gets fired, and then he just moves down the road to the next town. we've got to make sure that never becomes a possibility again. we've got to make sure that we really hit them where it hurts, and make sure if you have been convicted of a crime, if you resign under investigation, you lose your pension. that should just be automatic. we have notorious police officers here, john burge and others, who have done horrible things, cost the city literally hundreds of millions of dollars. and yet john burge, one of the most knnotorious police torture in the united states, he died collecting his pension. so it's all about the will and seize thing moment to take on
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the police contracts and other things that are an impediment to reform and accountability. and i'm determined, in partnership with people of good will, in my city and state, to use this moment as an opportunity to turn things around and really move in a completely different direction on policing. >> do you ever see or hear police unions policing themselves? police unions saying, here's a bad apple, we've identified a bad apple and we're concerned because it reflects badly on the rest of the police force? >> no. it happens to rarely. i have actually seen it. when i worked for the police department back in the early 2000s, but it's very rare. even today, literally the officers were through their various context, were trying to say, congressmen invited us in. and he's lying now. bobby rush is a former black panther. he didn't invite the police into
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his office. and the fact that they would even say that, and even assuming that was true, five hours, when literally murder and mayhem is happening everywhere, police officers are getting the crap beaten out of them, being called to officer distress, and you take a siesta for five hours? that's outrageous. even in this moment, as shameful as this context is, there are people making excuses and saying we're being too harsh. no, no, no. we have not been too harsh. you can be supportive of people who do their job the right way, and still hold the bad ones accountable. that's what has to happen. >> mayor lori lightfoot, i appreciate your time. thank you. louisville, kentucky passes
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broenna's law. her mother joins me, next.
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tonight one american city has voted to end no knock warrants calling it breonna law. as questions remain about why police entered her home in the middle of the night, shot her at least eight times. breonna taylor was an emt in louisville, kentucky. in march police used a no knock warrant to forcefully enter her home and officers say they announced their presence. taylor's family say they did not. her boyfriend fired shots and says he didn't know who the plain clothes officers were. that they hadn't identified themselves. police fired back killing taylor. since then they've been re-assigned. tonight the city council not only banned no knock warrants
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but the use of search warrants and body cameras. under injuries the report said none. she was shot at least eight times. she was killed. before air i spoke with breonna's mother and family attorneys. miss palmer, first of all, i am so sorry for your loss. what do you make of what is happening in america right now? what do you think breonna would think about what's happening? >> she would be amazed to see the world changing. >> and have you heard, ms. palmer, from the city or the police department of louisville at all in any sort of meaningful way? because it's been almost three months and it is my understanding those officers involved are still on the job. >> yes, they are.
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the police department, no. but there are other people in the city that have reached out. >> mr. crump, in breonna's case, the three officers involved have not faced any charges. they are still working for the louisville police department. they are on administrative leave. does that make any sense to you? it's been nearly three months. >> anderson, it makes no sense at all when you consider how they violated their policies and procedures and furthermore the police report that came out yesterday just was void of anything that made sense when they erroneously put on the police report there were no injuries in the execution of the search warrant when breonna taylor was killed. furthermore, they said there was no forced entry, and we know that is a lie because they used a battering ram to bust open the front door, never identifying themselves, and being in plain
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clothes, anderson. so how was breonna and kenny parker her boyfriend to know who was coming into their home, that it was the police and not some home invasion? >> ms. baker, i know you are fighting to get a new law passed called breonna's law that would ban no knock warrants which as mr. crump was saying is what the police used on the night breonna was killed. where does that stand right now? >> it is up for a full vote tonight. i am encouraged that it will pass. we have bipartisan support of breonna's law at the metro council. it will not only ban no knock warrants but also require officers to wear body cameras during the execution of search warrants, not only wear them but activate their body cameras because that is one of the issues we also see. we are encouraged that it will pass, and once it's passed in louisville we hope to see it pass around the country as well.
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>> ms. palmer, i know it was breonna's 27th birthday last friday, and i know you said you haven't had time to grieve. i can't imagine what these last almost three months have been like for you. what do you want people to know about breonna? what was she like? >> just that she was loving and caring and she loved to help people. she loved to be around family. everybody loved her. her co-workers, her friends. her family. she just was full of life. she was so full of life. >> it's interesting you use that expression, full of life. when i was looking at the pictures of her and all of the pictures i've seen of her, she's got this smile and this joyful -- just a joyful countenance about her. she really just jumps off the
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page in photographs. it must have been -- i kind of just looking at her picture you get a sense of the personality she must have had in life. >> definitely. she had -- she was just, yeah. she loved to smile and just be this person. she had a vibe out of this world. like you couldn't ask for a better child at all. >> anderson, as ms. palmer told attorney baker and i, breonna was saving lives while she was living and that was the passage of the breonna taylor law she will be saving lives forever. >> absolutely. >> tamika palmer, i am just so sorry for all that you have gone through and are going through
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and i hope you get justice and peace. thank you so much for being with us. lena baker and benjamin crump as well, thank you. >> thank you. just ahead on this busy night more breaking news. the republican national convention has announced the new city it will hold their convention in after pulling out of north carolina.
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moments ago republicans announced they will hold the primetime portion of their convention where the president accepts his nomination in jacksonville, florida. this comes after president trump was angered that north carolina's governor, whose city of charlotte was to hold the entire convention, would not allow mass gatherings of people while his state is still battling the coronavirus. the news also comes as the president announced his first big campaign rally next week as we reported in tulsa, oklahoma. another mass gathering of people. and the man famous for making employees sign nondisclosure
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agreements is requiring attendees sign a liability waiver. the invitation sent by the campaign has this language toward the bottom. by clicking register below you are acknowledging an inherent risk of exposure to covid-19 exists in any public place where people are present. by attending the rally you and all guests assume all risks related to covid-19 and agree not to hold donald j. trump for president incorporated as well as others liable for any injuries or illness. the number could reach 170,000 more deaths by october. the news continues. we'll head over to chris for cuomo primetime. >> thank you very much. all eyes are on seattle and trump sees an opportunity to make everything that's happening there and really everywhere about his political opponents and their radical ranks. his move? calls to dominate the people on the streets, dangling troops